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>>15998931
Honestly I fucking hate wagecucks because they are all fucking socialists

NEETie NEETie
sorry sweetie
faps all day
and COOMS on sheetie
tries to make the wagies rage
wishes that he had some wage
NEETie NEETie
sorry sweetie
NEET is hungry but can't eatie
momma couldnt find your snack
wagie bought whole tendie rack
NEETie NEETie
sorry sweetie
basement dwellers can't competie
wagie grab brapper and tit
NEET forever celibate

>>15998931
Obviously this is good, people realize the futility in wageslaving and would rather spend their time in a more meaningful manner; I.E. Spending it with loved ones or doing something they love.

>>15999426
Have fun at the plant tomorrow.

>>15999432
How is it good retard, smaller work force leads to collapse

>>15999440
suck my dick faggot people still need to work in order to make a living, worse/best case scenario depending on your viewpoint this would just lead to a collapse of big corporations

>>15998931
>What has brought this change in thinking?
Normies spend all day staring at Instagram and JewTube influencers who get to proudly basically NEET in their faces all the time. The proud wagecucking boomer is going extinct. Just look at how popular Yang is online. The country is also getting more brown everyday. It's obvious the future is going to be extremely lazy and probably communist.

>>15999448
>people take less pride in working
>start looking for ways to avoid working, including unemployment and welfare
>vote for politicians who offer handouts, this disincentivizes workforce and increases unemployment
>those working start performing shittily at jobs, overall productivity goes down

Try thinking beyond the immediate brainlet

>>15998931
People know working is bullshit. That there's plenty of people being given enough money for a living for no reason at all while they're busting their asses working. And on top of that the money they're earning through their work is shit. It doesn't afford them anything and if you're going to live paycheck to paycheck you may as well have some free time.

Even people in higher paying positions are becoming aware that their purchasing power is falling faster than they can get raises and are getting demoralized. Both the blue collar technician whose wages have been becoming increasingly stagnant and even receding or the white collar workers know that the middle class lifestyle is becoming harder and harder to attain.

Work is nowadays less of a moral obligation and more of a means to an end. And the end isn't being fulfilled that much, so anyone who thinks he has a chance to get on the dole does so. The idea of having to work to "contribute to society" is a dead meme. If you can escape work and get away with reasonable living standards, you do.

>>15998931
>What has brought this change in thinking?
Us.
>Is it good or bad?
It's revolutionary

>>15998931
>What has brought this change in thinking?
maybe people are becoming less stupid
>Is it good or bad?
disgusting. A true NEET knows the right answer by heart

>>15999468
honestly who gives a shit? Most jobs provide no real value. They just help sell luxuries. Big fucking deal. Society should focus on survival, not on creating the best chair or whatever the shit of all time.

Society should focus on providing food and shelter. THEN it can focus on other things, BUT the main core of a society should be on survival.

Good for me, since I actually want to work there will be more money and more positions open.

>>16000368
>the main core of a society should be on survival.
what a retard take.

>>16000388
Not an argument, dipshit.

>>16000388
That's literally the main purpose for life. To survive, retard so OBVIOUSLY that should be the priority, 30 IQ monkey.

>>16000343
Part of the problem is that prices on food and utilities are increasing while the cost of production is decreasing. This is due to greedy companies, board members, and generally leeches on society. I'm not saying capitalism is bad. The system has been broken by people who realize they can charge as much as they want and people will still pay. I've stopped going out and buying alcohol/luxuries. And I make a decent wage.

>>16000642
>>16000646
>posts on 4chan
>uses computers
>makes easy money from remote locations
>"muh primitivism"

>>16000689
tedposter BTFO

>>15998931
Even if I did want to work, nobody wants to hire me. I spent the last four months looking for a job, and 28 interviews and over 200 applications, still nothing. I even tried to apply to mcdonalds till I could find a better job and they didn't even want to hire me. They were clearly understaffed and they didn't even consider me. I'm just done looking for a job. I sometimes apply to things I see on indeed every once in a while but I don't think I'll ever find a job again.

Doubt it. This is just you op. Since you surf this degenerate site where the jooze have successfully brain washed you to believe there is a 'movement'

When in reality everyone is just living. Not really enlightened or anything out of the ordinary

It's been like this and it will continue to be this way dummy

>>16000368
You're still in college aren't you.
This is commie talk.

>>15998931
>What has brought this change in thinking?
Most people can see through the boomer deception of “work as hard as you can and you’ll make it” honestly being a bit lazy is a step in the right direction because you learn to do more with less time to get some free time or relax on the job. A lot of it is also dissatisfaction with life, people in their 20s and 30s got deceived by the media into thinking they deserve everything so a humble wagecuck job is very unappealing and anyone with an IQ above 80 can see the writing on the wall for the states. No future = no pride in work

>Is it good or bad?
I think it’s good, because it is bad for greedy businesses that like to exploit workers, the only way they can keep making money is to become glorified babysitters. Also people ghosting jobs and the growing online businesses are soon to put many out of jobs, likely causing the government to step in and help. This will further demotivate the few wagies who are struggling to keep an honest living when they see the gibs, they’ll get fed up with the system and get smarter and exit it too

>When in reality everyone is just living

>>15999440
then it’s time to change, maybe businesses should wise up and stop using archaic practices to enrage wagies (eg more vacation time, better pay, investment opportunities), if you want to run a business you have to take care of your employees first

>>16000689
>>16000696
no, retard. Read CAREFULLY instead of trying to read what you want to read to gain leverage like a desperate loser.

I said survival should be "priority" dipshit. I used that word for a fucking reason. No shit I use a phone, laptop, chair, etc. I am saying making survival as easy as possible should be the goal, dumbass

>>16000755
>everything I cant argue against is a commie!!

>>16000803
>I said survival should be "priority" dipshit
Why?

>>15999426
HAHAHAHHHAHAHA
As a fellow wagie, this sums it up. Neeties better fix their shit existence before the day of rope arrives. It's inevitable

>>15998931
Change is coming

>>15998931
greed

>>16000804
....Lol you have to be fucking joking. That is the bases to all organisms, retard. Survival instinct.
Why SHOULDN'T it be priority? You're basically saying if people live or die is irrelevant.
Let me ask you a question, kiddo. Are you homeless? If not, why :)?
Why not live as a homeless person if it's not "so bad"?

>>16000343
>>15998931

Why contribute to society?
Society shits on people left and right (especially whites, look it up, they pay all the taxes).

> Work
You go into a company that views you as disposable labor (whether true or not).
You get treated decent by managers at best and shit on by 5ft-ers at worst.
You don't really take ownership in the products because you don't really see the tangible benefit to what you're making.

>After Work Pay
Then you go home after your day's work and find out that 25%, or so, of your income goes to politicians that pretend to care about you and people that do jack shit all day on your dime.

You want to help good people get back up on their feet with programs like WIK, child welfare, housing assistance, ect. But then you get the people that are just on it for the money and that's it. Taking advantage of YOUR charity at gunpoint.

You take that shit on the chin. You have to smile and take the orders of people in which you are subsidizing half of their living costs, while they complain about you not smiling wide enough to your 5ft manager.

>Getting out
Well you can try. But in the end, you become the very thing that perpetuates this bullshit for others. Your employees face that same shit every day in order to be competitive and stay alive as a company.

>Meh asians
Shut the fuck up right there. Working in China sucks. You think it's better there? Fuck no. It's worse.
Then Japan? Fuck that too. It's all fake. Everything in Japan is a façade. that's it.

>Being a Commie
Fuck off with that shit. You don't care about anyone. You just want power.
You'll just enslave everyone in a different way.
Same with socialism.

>>16000823
Not an argument

Ruthless capitalist business models and companies treating their wageslaves like shit over the years is a culprit. The standard wagie used to care about the success of their employer, used to take pride in delivering the best product or service they could. However, the employers have breached the 'psychological contract' most wagies have and so their productivity and quality of their work has diminished. Chuck a bit of employee apathy in there and this is the result.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_deviance
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/gallop-survey-worker-apathy-now-a-global-epidemic/

>>16000848
surprise,
when companies stop caring about workers, workers stop caring about them.

I blame outsourcing in general, and the disposable human-bug mentality that China is infecting everyone with.

>>16000803
>making survival as easy as possible should be the goal
survival is only then a priority if it's hard. priorities shift naturally.

>>15999426
Imagine coping this hard. NEETs skinnier than wagies because we don't have to eat to cope with stress, we have no bills so we don't need wagie concepts like income, we have all the time to socialize unlike the wagie that only socializes with coworkers. I can go out right now and befriend a bunch of other non wagies

>>16000938
this

imagine wagecucking and not using available resources to benefit yourself just because some backwards ass society deems them as “unappealing” fuck this gay ass society that doesn’t give a single fuck about you but the moment you challenge it it balls up like a faggot coward. Nothing is better than wagie tears

>>15999440
>smaller work force leads to collapse
Good

>>15999440
smaller workforce -> labor more expensive

labor more expensive -> wages go up or automation

Sounds like a win win to me.

>>15998931
you can expect service to worsen further as the buying dollar of pretty much every currency keeps decreasing further

>>15999440
>I WILL HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING BY MYSELF IF THERE ARE NO MORE SLAVE SERVANTS TO DO EVERYTHING FOR ME
get rekt jew

>>15998931
Cost of living went up and wages stagnated. No one gives a fuck about their menial low paying job that doesn't even buy them a studio in the city they work in.

>>15998931
>1 post by this id
Demoralization thread. This is fake. Someone is canvassing all of social media with this try to infect our psychology and turn us away from working, gaining capital to start businesses and invest, start families, and be happy. All the posts on this board are "1 post by this id" threads which ask you loaded questions about how sad and lonely and poor you are and when are you going to give up, fellow white?

This is terrorism. This is literally a psychological operation. It is being carried out by the JIDF and and various survelliance and intelligence agencies. The glow in the dark alphabet nigger to regular poster ratio here is literally 50/50.

in b4 nuspeak words like "incel" and "schizo" and "nazi" and "pol"

>1 post by this id
Just remember this. These people are terrorists and you are in a real information war, which is not a pseduo war, it is a real, actual war for the minds and futures of our children, which warrents violent recourse and WILL see violent recourse.

>>16001198
Why do you cling to the status quo so hard?

>>15998931
Yes. Working is a fucking joke today. I come to work and am mostly unproductive. Older men around me are mostly zombies who gossip like school girls so you have to stiff arm them constantly because they're absolute mongs. When I come to work and the temperature is fucking wack because the retards in my building don't know how to properly control temperature I just leave. I take random off days and tell absolutely nobody, just mark it appropriately on my time sheets. Where I work there's a high turnover but it's still a big place. So essentially they need me and seem to put up with anything, I love this shit. Middle "management" is really just for show and pretending like they do anything worthwhile, they plan events and send out useless ass emails that's pretty much it. No real power, they can't do fucking shit to you. Man it took me too long to realize 90% of the faggots around you have absolutely no power and can't do shit. Actual managers are too busy with other accounts and work, they don't study shit about you. Just smile at them and exchange pleasantries once a month, they love that shit man. My bosses are all females too so they're nice. But yes fuck work I have absolutely no care for my job outside of a check or adding value to this place.

>>16001202
We are going to kill you all and this time the muslims will help us.

>>15998964
>t. JIDF

>>16000823
holy shit what a faggot

Goddamn it's pathetic too, remember you own your workplace not the other way around. You as a human have rights and shouldn't be made to do shit. Just like you don't have to talk to a cop about anything. Look at fucking amazon, people are literally dying on the job, forced in shitty conditions. Meanwhile Amazon is becoming a major player in new technology development for the US military. Holy fuck those workers need to go on strike or start a union, what a fucking travesty what people are putting up with today. It sickens me.

>>16000682
>This is due to greedy companies, board members[...]
No. This is because of inflation, which is a government program.
>The system has been broken by people who realize they can charge as much as they want and people will still pay.
Wrong. They will still pay if there's no alternatives. Most industries are cartelized through regulation. Barriers of entry into most important industries are every day higher and this leaves the market to just a few actors who can charge far more. Come on dude this is just common sense.
>>16000824
I literally never said anything about the chinese or communism in this thread. Wtf are you ranting on about.
>>16001198
Take your meds.

>>15998931
Everyone only looks after their ass from CEO to the janitor. I dont know whether 50 years ago people cared for the business but now nobody does. I see a lot of young people come in with hopes of proving themselves until they realize its better off to do as little as possible. Working hard nowadays gets you a pat on the back, Ive never seen someone promoted because he works hard or efficiently or get a raise because of it. Its kind of pointless.

>>16000682
>>16001296
should also be stress that automation both online and in brick and mortar is adding to this issue as well. If a AI and/or kiosk cost 150k less a year than hired work, why have the workers?

>>16001316
Instead everyone looks at a working business as a money pool for extracting money. So it becomes a game of being smart in terms of positioning oneself in a way that allows you legally to extract as much as money as possible. Again the idea of a long-term business with long-term employees that rise through the ranks is kind of dead. We are living in the time of parasites. Its either be a parasite or work as little as possible for the wage you get. The biggest idiots in the workplace today are precisely people who think in old ways, how the company and managers will "recognize" all the hard work theyre doing for them lol

>>16001316
I'm going to get laughed at because no one here believes in climate change but "making it" is a pointless effort. If you are born after 1980 and weren't already rich at the point of birth, you are literally wasting your life chasing money. The planet will be unable to support more than 100 million people in less than 30 years, rivers are drying up, the artic ice is melting and the methane that was trapped under it is being released. We have passed the point of no return. There won't be retirement, there won't be a legacy after you die. Only the richest of the rich maybe have a chance of surviving he collapse.