/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15959575
blacksmith

fapping
>produce semen

Someone needs to produce more Mumus.

why he acting like women don't do the same

>>15959575
COOMING

>>15959616
>FAgt

>>15959575
>>>/po/
>>>/diy/

>>15959575
Unironically, coding. I say often that "learn to code" is a meme, as it is, but coding as a hobby is a fun and rewarding practice. You probably won't make it professionally, at least for a good chunk of your life, but it's a great thing to learn nonetheless.

Pros:
- Practical, polishes the noggin
- Fun, dopamine rushes for solving problems
- Impressive, people will take interest
Cons:
- None

>>15959575
programming

>>15959575
Drawing, woodworking, making sculptures, writing short stories... lots.
I personally make make furniture or fixtures out of wood like desks and shelves that I need.

>>15959722
>coding
>>15959727
>programming
What world do you live in where you think women would find those interesting? All programming and coding inspires is an image of a pencil neck with glasses and no jawline.

Beer and wine are a good hobby, distilling is kind of tricky due to being illegal but there's still a large group of people into it.

>>15959743
Who gives a shit

>>15959575
marathons and shit. Those can be done for charity.
Grrls (the ones that are minimally good looking) love to slut out and wear skimpy shit just to go out and work out with you

>>15959743
Agreed, imagine being hunched over, alone staring at a computer screen as a hobby. So many things you can do with your hands in real life thats actually cool and will attract ppl.

making music, youtube videos

>>15959616
faggit kek

>>15959813
Shut the fuck up grandpa, you're probably incapable of complex abstract thought and can only handle things as basic as whittling dildos. Imagine doing things only because you care what other people think of you or how you can attract others to like you. That's fucking pathetic.

cars, watches, men's classic fashion, etc

>>15959722
It's not a hobby man lol
Then again I work from home coding so it's not exactly something I like doing in my free time.

>>15959575
gardening dumbass

>>15959575
My job is musical instrument manufacture and repair, so I get to produce instruments that make pro musicians happy : )

>>15959575
Meanwhile girls have no hobbies at all.

Painting, sell prints for $10/$20 and originals for a couple hundred. I usually do beach, nature, local architecture and can make $1000 at a weekend art show. Also a good way to meet women

>>15959616
>ID

>FAgt

Classic. Seen some good ones this week.

cUMM was one I forget the other

>>15959743
Sorry that people don't take interest in your hobbies, man. A lot of the people I'm good friends with have asked me to teach them how to code.
If you'd like to learn how to make friends who actually like you, I can probably help you with that as well.

>>15959575
Carve stones

>one post by OP
>28 retards reply

>>15960481
>Sorry that people don't take interest in your hobbies, man
People don't matter to me - I already have my wife who is the only person who does matter to me.
>If you'd like to learn how to make friends who actually like you, I can probably help you with that as well.
I don't need friends.
>A lot of the people I'm good friends with have asked me to teach them how to code.
I don't care.

All that and you couldn't respond to a simple point: coding and programming inspires an image of a slack jawed faggot to most women. The only reason I even mentioned that is because the thread originates from how women view men's hobbies. I didn't even suggest to change your hobby; just letting you know that women wouldn't give a shit.

Maybe you should try taking up reading as a hobby so you can conduct yourself properly in simple conversations, you retarded faggot. LMAO

Working out/exercising
Art/Drawing (Hint: Anime titties)
Wood working/Carpentry
Guns/Martial Arts?

>>15959575
Homebrew, pal.

Make beer. Share with friends.

>>15959575
beats for rappers, good side money until the IRS made me declare it on a 1099

>>15960823

I'd like to do something like this, but more with songwriting. I've got quite a few demos. How did you find 'artists' and what was the process of actually selling beats to them?

>>15959812
>marathons and shit

holy shit. he's serious

>>15960850
tossed them up on yt, didn't start sending stuff out until other reached out to me. i was getting about 30k views per video within 2 weeks. all it takes is uploading and putting stuff out there pretty much. I wrote a contact per beat purchase depending on if they want exclusive rights, or a lease. Then it could get more in depth with a lease/exclusive being a trackout vs. mp3 or wav.

>>15959616
The onus is on the guys to attract the girls if they want a girlfriend.

>>15960907
Why would I want to attract some gross slut?

>>15960907
why do a hobby you don't enjoy for a girl?

>>15959722
>Cons:
>virginity

>>15959575
market gardening

>>15960886
can you go slightly further into detail? do you use a bunch of hashtags or something? how do people find some random beat video that you put on yt?

Gardener. Moisture farmer. Artist. Textiles. Photographer. Pornographer. Actor. Voice actor. Writer. Musicion. Cook.

>>15959575
mycology

>>15961011
Going to clubs, drinking, going to the movies, drinking, going out to restuarants, drinking, all inclusive vacations, drinking, going to concerts, drinking. If these aren't your hobbies then literally no women will stay with you for longer than 2 months.

>>15959575
Unironically running a drug business. Women want men to be dangerous and exciting.

>>15959575
why are hobbies a prerequisite for finding a gf?

Programming sex robots to be gardeners, mycologists, wood workers, painters and stone carvers.

>>15960874
?

>>15960997
yea, so youtube has pretty accurate tag features when you go to upload a video. basically I knew what artists were going up in popularity that correlated with the type of beat I was uploading. Then when someone would search for a beat from an artist in my tags they would be more apt to click my video because of a similar artist in the title to whom they searched.

>>15961201

I don't follow, you used other people's names in your titles or tags? Also, what's to prevent someone from just stealing the beat and not paying you?

>>15961223
No, for instance if someone was looking for a Gunna type instrumental I would put Lil Keed, Lil Gotit and other similar artists in my tags because those artists are correlated with Gunna and when they became bigger I got a lot more traction. Another important part of this is strong subscribers, just need to build reliable viewers.
I've had tons of beats stolen from me, even people reuploading them to their channels as their own beats. The biggest one was a beat that was stolen from me by a Russian group and their music video with my beat got over 20M views. I reached out to management and they paid me $35 for a lease. Lol at the end of the day its the people who aren't assholes that you somewhat need to rely on to make any type of money. In addition, have a beat tag. That helps a lot.

>>15959575
Literally any hobby that isn't pure entertainment? Can you please take your low IQ questions elsewhere

>>15960907
90% of all dates start with a guy approaching the girl.

>>15961247

Huh that's pretty cool, good job anon. So you don't have any recourse when someone takes the beats? They probably made a shitload of money from that

Also you must be pretty good at this, have you pursued it further or did anyone reach out to you about going pro?

You should put one of those vocal tags in your beats like Bobby Johnson does. 'You are now listening to a bizfag beat' kinda thing...

Also would the beats just be repetitive, or would it be an entire 'song' with various parts (bridge chorus etc)?

>>15959743
>>15959813
>not making custom electronics and selling for an exorbitant mark up
Never going to make it.

>>15960729
Yeah, your wife is fucking someone else.

>>15959743
>only does things to impress women
Never going to make it.

>>15961336

What in the actual fuck is that, and why would anyone pay for it?

>>15960729
Can't imagine a more yikesworthy cunt than this.

>>15961336
Ever heard of a nixie clock? Those things go for hundreds.

>>15961314
lmao imma have to use that tag, thanks for the idea. nope no recourse, I just dont really want to hire a lawyer that would take a 30% fee on the off chance we would even have success legally in a foreign country. and nah not really, always just considered it a hobby. I was thinking about solely doing music but college got in the way very quickly. kind of makes me sad, I wonder what I could have accomplished if I never slowed down.

>>15961406

Well you've got the knack, keep at it. I had a friend who sold beats to marketing companies to use in ads and stuff, maybe that would be more profitable for you.

>>15959575
>>>/lit/

>>15959575
3D printing
You can get a cheap one for like $150

>>15959575
classical piano
>learn and then record the pieces

>>15961472
appreciate u man, good luck with your future hobbies and endeavors. see u around

>>15959575
drawing
writing
imagining things
coding websites and funny apps
gardening

>>15959743
Career should only be for women insofar as you can support a family with the income. Why do you let women bend your behavior around?

>>15961406
Use tunecore and you would have gotten paid for those 29 million views

>>15959616
You can apply this reverse logic to everything people say about women here honestly.

>>15959881
html “coder” spotted, get over your superiority complex faggot

eating and then producing great smelly turds of various qualities

>>15959575
1337x
Download a cracked version of FL studio or ableton
Start producing music, Great hobby desu

>>15959881
>Imagine doing things only because you care what other people think of you or how you can attract others to like you. That's fucking pathetic.

>>15959575
This is your actual problem OP not the fact your hobbies don't "Produce things". Your life will always be miserable until you get rid of this meme. You're literally living for other people not yourself. I'm assuming you're 20 or under? If yes then aging will probably take care of it. But if you're close to 30 and still think like this I don't know how to help you.

>>15959722
Coding is boring as shit to most people bro and there's almost no benefit in learning it unless you're interested.

>>15961069
They aren't. It's good to have hobbies besides consuming media, but as long you have a steady job and some general goal of self-improvement at some point in your life, you can get a girl. Most women are terribly uninteresting themselves, but we want to have sex with them so we listen like what they're saying is actually fascinating.

What really attracts women is just not being a bitter cunt.

>>15959722
It's fucking boring as hell, unless you're an autist.

>>15959812
If I had a girlfriend and said girlfriend was looking for excuses to dress like a slut I would probably pummel her face into the cement

>>15961336
So based it's not even funny. Most people, thankfully, are not aware nor competent enough to work with electronics.

>>15959575
>I run
>I lift
>I do yoga
>I wind surf
>I read
>I play harmonica (well)
>I make (shit) electronic music

The next few I will call hobbies because they aren't my day job, but I do make a little money off them:
>machine learning competitions
>economics/politics blog, specific to my country

The harmonica and wind surfing always gets people interested.

>>15959575
Cooking. Ladies love it.

>>15959575
I rebuild and repair and sometimes reassemble gaming computers. There is very little money in it but for me its more about learning the trends in hardware and knowing how powerful the next set of whatever will actually be. Because I was really involved with thr second hand market as well as keeping check on retail prices, i imagined that amds rx 5700 would have to beat vegas 56/64 and gtx 1070s just to have a chance of recognition. On my test bench I have two decent examples of each of the gpus in the link and Im going to benchmark and test them in overclocking and undervolting as well as underclocking an under volting just to really see the difference- i grew out of pc games this way

>>15963128
Fprgot the link https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1070/3439vs3609

Making high-end classical guitars by hand

I tend to my chickens and chop firewood.

I tried blacksmithing once, but you'd be surprised at how expensive it is. I'd need to work a real job to fund that hobby. It just isn't affordable on a cheap lifestyle, and you can't make money on it until you're quite good.

>>15960823
Once when I was in the mental ward some "rapper" saw me using FL and wanted me to make a beat for him. Then he didn't even like it. Fuck that shit.

>>15959575
wait so how do girls combat this when its reversed?

>OMG I LOVE TRAVELLING!

>>15961370
>>15961388
It's a numitron watch, and yes people pay really good money for these. What you're seeing is just a prototype.

>>15962890
The thing is I don't see why. The information to do all this is freely available on the internet.>>15962890

>>15963319
>thotphotos are a modern commodity

>>15963154
Maple top?
Rosewood sides /w maple?
I had a classical with ebony, really prefer it vs rosewood for fingerboard.
What size of frets do you use?
Neck looks nice and satiny
Do you sell these? link me up!

>>15963382
Even people who are good at electronics for a hobby usually don't monetize this. But I guess it's like that for a lot of things, commercialization can really suck the fun out of something. Or make it more fun ofc, depending..

music production is fun, free and can be done from your laptop.

>>15963387
brrrrrrrrrrraAAAAAAAPPPPPP

>>15961336
Cool clock Ahmed.

Men
>be hot
>be tall
>be ripped
>be rich
>have 15 "cool" hobbies and have pictures of you doing them hiking in the mountains and shit your life must be extremely interesting and cool

Women
>literally just exist

>>15963799

>>15959575
Why are males burdened with producing?

>>15959755
Underrated. The goal is to gain skillsand join a community. Build social capital.

>>15959583
this
I'm sure there might be a market for this but we haven't found out yet

>>15963880
Exposed bitch at

https://imgur.com/H3LyZSw

>>15959575
3d modeling, can earn you a load of cash if you get good at it too

>>15959722
>- Impressive, people will take interest
No.

As long you need some kind of stuff for a hobby, then you can DIY and produce it.

Get involved and see if there's any problem that you could solve. Produce the solution, market it, and sell it.

Gunpla

>>15959722
Almost every job from medical to engineering requires some form of coding. A lot of people in college have touched the subject it's definitely not appealing to roasties.

>>15964446
>we haven't found out yet
the absolute state of /biz/

>>15959722
kek when is the first time some normie asked elaborate questions about your coding "hobby"? Maybe some other coding autist who wants to pursue the smallest penis measuring contest with you but that's it.

>>15962436
Which is better ableton or FL studio?

>>15961336
Beat me bitchboy

>>15964661
What an extravagant sex toy.

two easiest:
photography - use your phone or get a cheap starter digital camera, learn how to frame shots, learn about lighting
writing - just pen and paper or start a free blog
this faggot wrote blog posts for 7 years about being horney/lonely and now he makes $2K passive income from his books:
https://delicioustacos.com/

>>15963063
based

>>15959583
based and redpilled

>>15959722
>Cons: weight gain, depression, manic thoughts, homicidal tendencies, violent outbursts, compulsive fingernail chewing, drug abuse, suicide

>>15963389
Shut up electric guitar fag. That man is a real luthier don't waste his time.

>>15963880
Based angry but also truthpilled incel

>>15962855
Fuck, I knew it.

>>15959575
Been making art/music/games/animations/streaming for 10 years, unironically don't even start. I can tell you right now it's not worth it, nobody will give a fuck. All my views are still in single digits despite making thousands of things, it's really not worth it.

>>15963393
you'll end up spending 40 hours to build $20 worth of equipment and 5 hours selling it.
you'd be better off carving wood or some shit.

An aquaintance of mine repairs furniture. Quite often, he tries to make it somewhat artsy. For instance, he recently repaired an old almost free armchair he found in a local fair, and made a few hundred bucks net. I think he sold it cash on hand so no taxation in any way. He does it with his wife. It seems somewhat entertaining. It's only a side job.

>>15964236
she's producing porn.

>>15959812
my pp likes this

>>15959575
street artist
graphic design artist
food truck

>>15965477
Are your animayions retarded though?

>>15960729
You seem like an insufferable cunt, which leads me to believe you dont have or need friends not by choice

>>15964491
I'm already an engineer and am good with a few CAD programs. What can I do with that on the side to make money?

>>15964491
Do tell more please anon.

>>15961044
aaaaaa why is it like this bros? I used to be able to do this shit when I didn't think about it but now I see all this shit for what it is and can't enjoy it anymore. fuck.

Doll house furniture

>>15963389
It’s actually an aged German Spruce (Engelmann) top, with cocobolo back and sides, which is a variety of Mexican rosewood. I left the sapwood on it, which most people take off for the full rosewood look.
>It’s very rare for acoustic or classical guitars to use maple tops since they’re too stiff, works better on electric.
The funny thing is that the back and sides are actually two veneers of cocobolo sandwiching an equally thin maple board to give it more stiffness which also provides a hybrid sort of tone with a little more volume and punch.
>For reference the neck and headstock are mahogany and the fingerboard is indeed ebony.
Frets are jumbo width mid height, things like frets and nut width are always bigger on a classical than an electric. Finish is hand-rubbed French Polish. I don’t have enough stock to sell them yet, but once I move and buy all my tools I can start. Will post on /biz/ and make an insta.

>>15965399
Lol nice dubs. I make amps as well, here’s a ‘59 Fender Tweed Deluxe clone I just finished with my one-off EBMM Cutlass

>>15964491
Am an anon similar to >>15965717
Do tell more please.

>>15959575
Programming. Just make a high demand webpage and put some ads on it, or some shitty apps.

making art is a productive hobby

>>15959579
based

>>15959575
I do music and kickboxing. I like them both

>>15960462
I seen UhOhDyke on /pol/. Wasn't spelled exactly I don't think but it was hilarious.

>>15959575
I enjoy music and VA/VO.
I plan on making a melodic death metal album and I like to do voice covers of neat characters and monologues

>>15966004
honestly it isn't like this. degenerates would want you to think that, but, everyone is into everything. fitness, gaming, bushcrafts, baking, guns, ebay, you fucking name it there are girls into it. drinking isn't the only thing. for example, 420girls are top tier and dont get drunk and "accidentally" sleep with randos

>>15967738
>melodic death
Best. Fucking. Genre. Dark Tranquility #1.

>>15967804
Cringe

>>15967760
>420girls are top tier and dont get drunk and "accidentally" sleep with randos

>>15967804
Im a big fan of insomnium and omnium gatherum.
Amon Amarth is my favorite band tho.
Kalmah's cool too

>>15959579
Fpbp

Moving glowing hot metal under the force of your hammer to make something functional out of a hunk of steel is incredibly rewarding. Plus, you don't have to be very good to make simple things that look good. Normies eat that craftsmanship shit up.

>>15967811
Get fucked philistine. What the fuck do you listen to? No doubt Oasis or something equally awful. Cunt.
>>15967876
Got a ticket to see Insomnium yesterday actually. Fucking can't wait it's been like 10 years since I saw them last. Omnium Gatherum are the tits. Got to see them support DT 12 years or so ago.

Imagine your hobbies being based around how much approval you can get from people. Holy shit. One thing to impress people with your career, as you will get respect AND support yourself. But after you get all that, why wouldn't you do something that you truly enjoy for its intrinsic value?

>>15960432
Any advice for getting started?

>>15968020
Shut up nerd

>>15967963
Lucky bastard, hope the shows great man.

>>15968118
No doubt it will be, they're cracking. Cheers buddy.

>>15961049

True, but it's a sad thing that it's true.

>>15968116
Cuck.

>>15961049
Prison doesnt sound great

>>15959575
I've recently been making kenshi mods. hedonistic but also rewarding and a creative endeavor that requires a thoughtful process.

>>15959616
>wnFAgt
>one faggot
it's your job as a man to impress a girl with your abilities, much like how it's her job to impress you with her appearance

>>15959575
I work at a lumber yard, where I get any wood I want for basically free, I capitalized on this by making wooden swords and shields out of scrap lumber.
I’m getting pretty good, and my wares sell themselves.
Most money I ever got out of a sword was $100, and I can make them in just a few hours.
I’d keep making swords even if they didn’t sell, I really enjoy making them lol

Some words of advice gentlemen, dont ever, ever do anything in life with the aim of impressing and attracting women. Not only will it have the adverse effect but it will poison you slowly over time. The more you chase pussy the more you pull away from your own soul.

Happiness is when what you do, say and think are all in harmony.

>>15959722
>Impressive, people will take interest
I'm from /g/ and have been programming as a hobby since high school. I'm currently work full-time as a software developer and at my job I have yet to meet one person who codes for fun like I do. I think during my entire life I maybe met like three people total who think writing programs is fun out of all the people who put up with it because the money happens to be good right now. It's becoming the type of thing that even other nerds make fun of you for liking, like Shadowrun or Warhammer. And 20 years from now, because of the things they teach at school these days, it will be seen as feminine, and engaging in feminine hobbies is a great chick repellent.

It's definitely a practical thing, maybe even fun for people like me, but impressive? Hell nah, unless you're an EE chad like some of the other posters in this thread. And it has cons; you will fuck up your back and eyes for sure, and possibly your BMI in either direction (I used to be dangerously underweight because I'd forget to eat while coding).

>>15959583
Based and fappilled

>>15968618
This is the real red pill. You have to learn to love yourself and what you do first before others can love you for it.

>>15959575
Here's a little tip. A woman will take interest in your hobbies because they like you; they won't like you because of your hobbies.

1. FIND A FIELD THAT YOU CAN PROFIT FROM THAT ONLY REQUIRES YOUR WILLPOWER TO LEARN. YOU HAVE THE INTERNET TO LEARN FROM. THAT WILL BE YOUR HOBBY. DROP YOUR EMOTIONS AND TAKE SMALL STEPS.

2. WOMEN DONT CARE ABOUT PERSONALITY OR HOW SMART YOU ARE, JUST HOW YOU LOOK WHICH IS HEIGHT AND FACE.

i was passed up by a fat guy who was taller than me because she thinks im a "mess". im like 5'3. ive seen a guy who had all the looks and still works as a cook but social opportunities were abundant for him.

>>15969674
Women love you if:
>you are the person they once were in the past
>you are the person they are now
>you are the person they want to become
That's about it.

>>15959743
lol 3D
Just Monika.

>>15959575
Ok lads, I /madeit/ since 2017 bullrun and have tried many hobbies. Here is a quick run down + if they will get you a gf.

>fitness
Mountain biking is top tier, you will have fun and keep fit. Every nice country has beautiful bike tracks.
>Adrenaline related
Skydiving is based, great for normiebook photos and impressing normies. (Only good to start conversation, no-one cares after that)
>traveling
Obviously fun, but I guess not an option if you dont have lots of time and money. You WILL meet a gf travelling.
>Aviation
This is based tier and the ultimate redpill. You will get to socialize with very smart and rich people at aeroclubs. I have never met a girl that isn't impressed when I take her for a date that has a surprise flight.

bump

>>15965399
Do you even play? I play Electric, acoustic and classical.
That's an Aristides, IMO the best electrics in the world, the whole guitar is one piece. Some extreme finesse is required to roll one of these off the line.