/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15943278
have sex

>>15943278
I had that conversation yesterday
>how can you live without alcohol, cigarettes or coffee

>>15943278
Yeah, coffee's pretty great.

>>15943278
who are you quoting

>>15943326
the normans in the staff room. you should see what happens when we run out of coffee and/or milk

>>15943378
They’re bodies tell them to embrace the NEET life and get comfy, but laborism means they need to stay awake.

>not wanting kidney failure from to much coffee

Let me pass on from this life finally

what's up with Americans and drip coffee?
It's objectively the shittiest way to make it. All the tannin get's leeched out of the grounds, and having a big pot of coffee sitting on a hotplate evaporates away all the oils and volatiles and shit.

Coffee is Unironically the elixir from the gods. Theres so many health benefits. Americans cant drink it without sugar and creamer though

>>15943428
It's very diluted, allowing them to drink huge mugs of it.
I can see the appeal, but personally can't stand lukewarm coffee so for that reason I'm out.

coffee is jewish
It deplets serotonine everytime you drin coffee you have less chances to product serotonine because coffee is an obstacle to serotonin production
It's a great stimulant.. but do not tache too much coffee. it will higher your chances of feeling a shit because it increases cortisolo (stess ormone)
With too much cortisol you get older before you will have less testo (cortisolo depletes testosterone)
In addiction caffeine inihbite serotonine

Caffeine boost a little bit dopamine tought

Caffeine has an half life of 6 hours so if you drich a coffe at 18:00 don't pretendto sleep unless it isnt't 1:00 urhzeit

Tache a lil bit of coffee in the morning and it's enough to have the boost without anxiety

Pro-tip: Use L-teanine or aswagahndah with coffee and you won't have the coffe side effects (100mg caffeine - 300mg aswaghanda)

>drink coffee
>don't feel energized or awake at all, still feel completely tired no matter how strong or how much I drink
>still feel the crash and feel even more tired and nauseous after a few hours

>>15943468
All of this is wrong.
Caffeine has nothing to do with serotonin, and its only negative effect regarding dopamine is that if you drink way too much coffee, you release less dopamine in response to coffee.

Coffee is the root cause of the downfall of Western civilization. God-fearing Catholics and hard-working Puritans walk into a coffee house and immediately start distributing atheistic manuscripts. They started stock speculation, they wrote treatises in favour of republicanism...

All the world's ills stem from the 'Enlightenment' and the Enlightenment stemmed from coffee. The hoipolloi were supposed to be drunk all day. We had everything under control. But then Satan's bile energized, liberalized and capitalized them. The world is irreparably damned thanks to a fucking drink.

>>15943278
Based and ginseng pilled

>>15943518
MFW
>coffee energized the industrial revolution
>industry resulted in women's rights
>industry resulted in global warming
>industry resulted in central banking

we have to go back

>>15943489
First off dopamine it's never associated with ''negative effects''
Everytime your brain realeses dopamine you feel yourself motivated hungry for pleasure for sex less apatic and strong

Caffeine boosts (obv not the same way as cocaine) dopamine that's why when you have a cup of coffee in da morning you feel great and you feel great focus. It's adenosine and dopamine boost

Coffee has to do with serotonine: it is an obstacle to serotonine production.
Without serotonine you feel anxiety
Add also the noradreline production with coffee and the cortisolo... and if you drinch too much you'll feel a nervy faggot

Avoid coffee...drin it only at small doses in the morning

https://ineedcoffee.com/your-brain-on-coffee-how-caffeine-affects-brain-chemistry/


The Feel-Good Effect of Caffeine
But what’s so wrong with enjoying a few cups of coffee to perk up your mood and make it through the rest of the day in one piece? Caffeine can immediately improve the mood by stimulating dopamine, although it depletes serotonin over time, which will ultimately cause you to feel worse.

And the depletion of serotonin is no laughing matter. Serotonin is critical to regulating a number of bodily functions, including sleep cycles, pain control, carbohydrate cravings, and digestion. Low levels of serotonin have also been associated with depressed immune function.

Caffeine impacts brain chemistry because it binds to proteins called adenosine receptors. Just like they sound, these receptors help to detect adenosine in the brain and can induce drowsiness. When caffeine binds to these receptors, it hinders brain cells from sensing adenosine to provide an immediate jolt and eliminate drowsiness temporarily.

>>15943428

VERY INTERESTED TELL HOW MAKE COVEFE

>>15943543
>Coffee has to do with serotonine: it is an obstacle to serotonine production.
That's almost never how it works.

See:
Chronic caffeine intake also increases the sensitivity of serotonin receptors. In other words, receptors specific to serotonin are more responsive to serotonin present in the synaptic cleft — it’s sort of like installing a bigger satellite dish to catch more of an existing signal. One study showed a decrease in serotonin release, but an increase in serotonin reuptake, leading to an overall increase in serotonin levels. (Think of it as the brain’s natural recycling.)
https://www.precisionnutrition.com/coffee-and-hormones

There's a reason the scientific world is all over the place: they don't really know themselves.
Suffice it to say that coffee affects mood, and that the healthy body will adjust so long as you don't overdo it..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKryf9BWDQg
41 sec in for caffeine

>>15943278
This is 100% wagie talk too real man just too real

>>15943428
We're cheap and have no taste

>>15943755
you brainlet a decrease in serotonine levels
What da fuc do you do with seretonin receptors if you don't produce seotonine?
Coffee is shit if tachen too much
.50 mg in da morning is all you need

>>15943787
Indeed. Quintessential wagie drivel.

coffee literally does nothing to me
i could drink half a litter of it and i will just fall asleep as if it were water

it's just a completely pointless bitter liquid to me. only way to make it passable is with sugar, which is bad for your health.
wonder if it really works on most people or if it's just some advanced social placebo effect.

>>15943885
>What da fuc do you do with seretonin receptors if you don't produce seotonine?
Serotonin production drops (according to one study), but serotonin sensitivity goes up. The net result is increased serotonin levels.

It says so right there in my post you dumbass.

>>15943278
>/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15943428
what other ways are there? vacuum pot? french press? a lot of people do use french presses now in the usa. a lot of people also buy coffee from dunkin donuts/ starbucks. all of the ones near me seem to be crowded to the point i would turn away during 7am-10am, like it would take 20 mins

>>15944568
Wow, burgers actually have no idea how to make proper coffee

don't talk to me until i've had my xanax and weed desu

>>15944641
Xanax is really hard withdrawl

>>15944606
>>15943428
>faggot people who clutch onto “the right way to do things” and other objective truths some reddit article or father figure told them about processes despite the only meaningful result being subjective (taste, preference) all just to feel valuable as a person because they suck otherwise.
I’ve had French press, aero press, pour over, espresso. I’m totally fine with my all-in-one bean grinder/drip coffee maker that I can program to start at certain times. I’m not doing it wrong if I enjoy the taste and process. Do you really think your strong opinions about what I enjoy make you more valid. Just neck yourself already. Lmao get a life.

coffee gives me photosensitive headaches. It also does nothing for my ADHD in comparison to my adderall

>>15943278
I just take caffeine pills. If I could supplant all my eating and drinking with pills I gladly would.

>>15944739
Salty.. do you have your period? No one cares about what you enjoy. There are just some things where high quality and proper preparation really makes a difference, like coffee, cheese, whiskey, bread. That doesn't mean that you have to value it, especially if you don't even have a taste for it.

>>15943278
I am trying to cut down on caffeine, but I really can't function without a cup of coffee in the morning. The coffee jokes at work in the morning are gay as fuck though

>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST GO TO STARBUCKS WHEN WE HAVE OUR PLASTIC KEURIG MACHINE!

>>15943278
I'm 30 now and I still never drink coffee. And i wake up around 6am most of the time. When i was growing up, all the adults would tell me about how im going to NEED coffee to get through the day when I'man adult. Total bullshit. Try exercising and eating healthy so you have more energy you fat fucks.

I like coffee and energy drinks but if you need them to survive you should reevaluate your life.

>>15945040
>Try exercising and eating healthy
Poast physiq

>>15945070
Not him but I live more or less the same, here's me.

Who /espresso/ here?

>>15943278
imagine being this insecure

>>15943428
>>15944568
French press is said to be the best but I tried it and it was awful. Pic related is the best way save for an espresso machine.

>>15943278
>tfw impossible to get addicted to anything, except winning of course
who here iron will chad?

If you dont drink tea, dont respond to me.

>>15945442
fresh ground in one of these bad boys. why would you bother with anything else? aeropress is ok too tbf.

>>15943428
>Americans
Rent. Fucking. Free.

>>15943278
grow up

All the coffee drinkers are the biggest Wageslave NPC fags I have met

I hate coffee culture too and all it stands for to make you a more productive NPC consumerist good goy chatter box fag

>>15943278
Tea

>>15943378
Anon is so above it all
Alpha as fuck woke new Earther
Is that why everything is going so well for you?

>>15943278
If only normans knew about an EC stack. This gay ass coffee shit would be out the window.

Amphetamines are where it's at for productivity. Would also help cull some of the weak we stupidly keep alive through modern science and socialism.

>>15943898
This is correct, I've seen the effects of it.

I was drinking 5 to 7 cups a day for 2 years. Eventually causing severe anxiety attacks & I had to be put on an SSRI to cope for the decrease in serotonin production for a while.

After I cut coffee out I had some of the worst withdrawal symptoms. Depression and Anxiety skyrocketed. I was nauseous, couldn't sleep, couldn't eat.

Over a month now & I am sleeping better, waking up refreshed (no longer groggy), and my anxiety is starting to decrease.

Coffee & caffeine at high doses will literally fuck you up.

>>15943428
Burger here. I discovered the French press a decade ago and have never gone back.

>>15945456
Sup brp

>t. matcha tea chad

>>15944568
>bizness & finance
>nobody replying to this or noticing the obvious business opportunity in coffee shops

>>15943278
have sex you fucking incel

The only time I get anxiety is if I drink coffee (caffeine) consistently over about a week or more. 1 cup of coffee a day for over a week fucks me up. I can have a cup of coffee consistently but have to wait a couple of days in between to keep everything under control.

Anybody else have this issue?

>>15945442
BASED

when I make it I'm gonna buy a nice espresso machine but my moka pot has made my dick grow I love it so much

>>15945897
I like to take breaks also fren

>>15943278
People desperately want to belong to something. To have something that can serve as a bonding point with other people. Being social in this way is coded deep in our DNA.
So it shouldn’t be a surprise when that is expressed in stupid ways like whether or not we drink coffee, or what brand we drink, or the extent to which we are devoted to drinking it. That is just our DNA grabbing anything it can as we have been convinced not to bond over traditional things like blood and soil.

>>15945925
Not only anxiety but brain fog 24/7 if my body has any dependence. I'm just happy I found out what was causing it cause I thought I was going crazy because it took a couple of months to figure it out.

Coffee just gives me the jitters. Doesn't do much for me in terms of ever thy. I like to drink it sometimes though.

I'm a teafag, mate if I need energy

>>15944930
I'm 3 weeks into a coffee fast after 10+ years of 3+ cups a day. I never got the headaches or other withdrawal type effects, but I did feel tired and bleh. However, at about day 10 or so I found myself acclimated to the "new normal" level of energy and it is so much more relaxed and zen. Stress levels and anxiety are way down. Whatever productivity I lost from the caffeinated energy is made up for in slow, mindful focus. Things that would piss me off at work before no longer faze me in the slightest. I'm thinking I will remain caffeine free, or at very least limit intake to 2-3 days per week. I may switch to decaf for the health benefits of coffee, though.

>>15943320
nice, froggy!

I quit drinking coffee earlier this year. Coffee, like cigarettes, alcohol, or any other legal recreational drug or supplement is just a literal trap designed to keep you poor and sedated under the thumb of the ruling class.

There is literally no benefit from habitually using 2/3's of the above described supplements.

Glad I don't drink coffee or booze.

Quit smoking cigarettes almost 9 months ago. Best decision I ever made in my entire life.

>>15946681
>>There is literally no benefit from habitually using 2/3's of the above described supplements.
Dr. Oz said 5 units of coffee per day is good for the heart.

Also, I tend to do naps right after coffee. Am I immune to the whole anxiety thing?

>>15943428
Pour over is the best.

French press coffee is disgusting.

>>15943518
Hard yikes from me.

>>15946681
>designed to keep you poor
i get free coffee from my office and it costs about 30 cents to make a cup at home. unless you're a literal retard, coffee isn't going to hurt your budget too much.

alcohol on the other hand...i've probably spent $75K on alcohol in my lifetime. cut back significantly recently on my spending and now I only drink on special occasions like days that end in Y

>>15944918
>whats the point of "proper" preparation if its not preferred.
You are just a sad boy autist who can't related to people and only can relate to processes and math and shit. You aint smart, you can add but you cant make friends. THATS NOT VALUABLE, SUN

>>15943278
dude this is such a redpilled statement and i get what you are trying to convey, being that im baked as fuck. but whats wrong with drinking coffee and im already going to be at work doing work anyway? atleast it keeps me sedated at work lol as you put it. also coffee is like 2.5, expensive maybe for a neet.

never drank coffee, its bitter and undrinkable without sugar and milk, literally shit tier liquid, yall just too addicted to see the truth
i see that there are barely health concerns, but its disgusting. nobody eats coffee beans, why would you drink a dilluted down liquid of it

>When you explain to a caffeinefag that their daily cup of coffee doesn't give them energy, it just cures their withdrawal symptoms

caffeine is a scam.

Drinking a good coffee is like getting your toes sucked on by asuka

Doesnt get you super buzzed but it makes you warm and cozy

>>15943529
> ginseng
Say bye to your test

>>15943326
Onions

>>15943278
>AFTER WAKING UP I NEED COFFE
>DON'T YOU DARE (YOU) ME UNTIL I'VE HAD A CUP OF COFFEE

This is like the OMG Drinks thread from a few weeks ago. Literally copy pasta but with coffee instead of drinks.

>>15943518
>>15943533
Didn’t expect to get redpilled like this in a coffee thread. Who else here /white tea/ morning style?
>younger tea leaves, less processed
>still gives you some caffeine, not too much
>can drink it as-is or with honey
>won’t stain your teeth
>you get to rave about how great “white” tea is, subconsciously triggering any s o y’s or sjw’s in your immediate vicinity

Caffeine pills

I also despise coffee drinkers

Fucking little faggots I wish I could just land a haymaker on them as they drink it

>>15947085
That’s not how caffeine works retard, it had 0 calories. It increases your heart rate, alertness, and blocks sleepiness

>>15945704
the CIA is underway faggot

>>15944739
>>faggot people who clutch onto “the right way to do things” and other objective truths some reddit article or father figure told them about processes despite the only meaningful result being subjective (taste, preference) all just to feel valuable as a person because they suck otherwise.
I fucking hate these faggot people. What sucks is that they are in the majority, because everyone wants you to think they're cool.
I hate that shit. I can't talk to anyone without them trying to make me think they're cool. I don't care if you think you're cool. I don't care if you want me to think you're cool. You want me to say you're cool? Fine, you're cool, I'm cool, we're all cool. Fucking fags

>>15943289
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mgolAsc8tAk

>>15943278
I drink decaf, because I can get all the benefits of the flavor of coffee without buying into the caffeine jew.

>>15943278
based literally me

>>15943468
Apart from all the other nonsense, you do know cortisol isn't just a pointless bad hormone right? Grossly elevated permanent cortisol can cause issues but temporary elevations can also do a lot of good. It gives more energy, suppresses inflammation, higher libido.

>>15946331
The health benefits are half to do with the caffeine.

I know drumpf is teetotal, but does he drink covfefe?

>>15943289
stop being a nigger faggot

The reason you're so die-hard about the "caffeine Jew" is in trying to exert some miniscule measure of control over your life. Because it's something in your life that you can exert control over without any real effort.

>>15943428
French press is objectively superior in all aspects

>>15943428
Tasty and warm. Not all of us are here for some transformative experience, it's fucking cold put and I'm going to pour whiskey in it anyway.

Coffee tastes like shit desu

>>15943428
When it's -30 C out I just want as much of something warm to drink as possible. We can't all live in temperate climates sipping shotglasses of espresso.

>t. Leafistani

>>15946721
>French press coffee is disgusting.

People who say this are usually doing it wrong, or have a shitty press. I won't go into it because most of this thread is 12 year olds crying about coffee, and why bother?

>>15943278
Also fuck you OP it's a great and effective way to load up on antioxidants without spending 20 bucks a week on blueberries. Also nicotine and caffeine used in conjuction improve brain performance short term and promote long term dendrite activity.

(Caffeine acts as a competitive antagonist of inhibitory adenosine A1 and A2 receptors increased dopaminergic and glutamatergic activity. Nicotine acts as an Agonist nicotinic ACh receptor binding ACh, glutamate, 5-HT and DA activity)

>>15943533
Stopped reading at global warming, imagine believing that hoax.

>>15949974
>Sipping espresso
>Thinks that's how you drink it

>>15943428
this i cringe when a burger tells me he drinks 3 coffees a day, nigger i used to drink 5 expressos (not esspressos) a day when i was still smoking and day trading, quit smoking now and only vape and drink 2 cups a day qnd only hold link, i became a boomer but a happier boomer

>>15943428
It's easy, that's pretty much it. And cheap. You can get a basic drip pot for $20. Most people didn't know what coffee was supposed to taste like, before Starbucks became a thing. Most people drank instant coffee, which is really just coffee flavored caffeine crystals.

The bizarre thing is, Americans knew how to make good coffee in the past. The best grind is a burr grinder - which was standard until cheap blade grinders came onto the market. Percolators made good coffee, but were expensive, and replaced with the $20 Black And Decker shit like you have a picture of. And the most hilarious thing is, those pots are replaced with Keurigs, and that's really shit coffee, because it just doesn't get hot enough.

My setup is a little pricey, but makes a good cup - Bodun burr grinder, and a Zojirushi maker with a metal carafe, and no hotplate. Here's a little secret for you - to get a UL listing in the US, they have to keep power down, and when you split the power between the heater for the water, and the hot plate, it doesn't get hot enough for the brew. The Zojirushi doesn't have a hotplate, the carafe keeps it hot for hours, and all the power goes to the water heater.

>>15947085
Factually wrong, every second you go through withdrawal, your tolerance decreases. So by the time you have had your daily cup, you are able to get a buzz from the same amount of coffee.

>>15943278
>not snorting powdered caffiene
never gonna make it

>>15945849
my matcha nigga, we out hurr pourin up