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Just live, dont be a weakling who blames others

>>15907650
I get those feelings too. That's why I coom and poof all day until they go away

>>15907650
Get off the internet, join a church or some other social group that you don’t consider “degenerate,” realize that your entire world view was created from spending too much time digesting stupid exaggerated media.

Fix this degenerate society.

>>15907692
all social groups are degenerate

>'reject' this degenerate society
>still dependent on their validation
You have rejected nothing

>>15907726
This.

>>15907650
>what's the solution
destroy it

>>15907726
This Buddha fucks.

>>15907677

I agree with you, but it's either you live in this society, or isolate yourself. Neither seem like a good option, that's why I started this thread.

Before I took blackpill, I was a happy normie, going clubbing, thinking mostly about getting my dick wet and chasing status and wanting validation from others, waiting to finish (((college))) and then have a (((job))), i was actually brainwashed into wanting to be mgtow (((successful bachelor))) and only fucking young sluts

After I took the blackpill, I see through the trashy mindset I had before and I'm on a path to financial freedom, I want to have a large white family to preserve my race and genes, I want to be self sufficient and have a homestead, raise my kids with good morals and traditional values, but I'm unhappy because everytime I go out I'm dissapointed with society in general and find it difficult to find people that resonate with me irl

>>15907692
i don't resonate with instituionalized spirituality, i find christians no better than regular degenerate normies desu

>>15907700
i have this dream, but i feel like it's sadly beyond saving, it would be easier to crash it all and start from scratch

>>15907726
maybe, i just want people to see through all the lies and brainwashing but i understand that's beyond me and i should not worry about what i can't control, can you offer any solid advice on how to cope with all of that, thanks man

>>15907650
Apparently the answer is to dance around in clown makeup or something

>>15907721
No they’re not. And if you think this way, you should consider CBT or some other type of therapy to help you with your autistic “morals” you’ve developed from spending too much time on 4chan.

A social group that plays pick up hockey twice per week is not degenerate. A group that plays chess and discusses strategy is not degenerate, a church group that organizes community events is not degenerate.

Almost everyone has “degenerate” capacity. It seems like you are overly focused on and ashamed of yours (probably because you have removed yourself from society and therefore focus on everything you consider negative and magnify those things and you probably watch tremendous amounts of pornography and YouTube videos).

The problem isn’t society, the problem is you and your intense predilection for your subjective view of the “ideal.”

>>15907753
>it would be easier to crash it all and start from scratch
That's been done several times in history. It would always develop the same or new, worse problems. The only way to a good society is to keep fixing it constantly.

>>15907650
Join The Nobody

>>15907753
The problem is you and the misanthropic world view you have created. You view everything as negative because it doesn’t “resonate” with your extremely narrow and pathological world view.

Here’s a secret for you: you’re a degenerate loser in many people’s eyes and very few people want to be around someone as negative as you. Either change or accept your life of solitude in thinking you’re morally superior to everyone.

>>15907787

i just want to meet people that are woke, not cucked in the head beyond belief by consumerism and status chasing, understand financial markets and how they work, know something about occult and enjoy lifting or some other sport that we could do together

i know you faggots exist because you're on here but where to find you irl is a different task

>>15907787
A social group is only as degenerate as its members, and most of them are degenerate. The activity doesnt even matter, thats just an excuse for people to gather

And yes, changing is possible. I used to be a misanthropic piece of shit like you. I made a concerted effort to change. It was very uncomfortable and difficult for a while but I am much happier and thankful I did it.

>>15907758
this

>>15907823
>I just want people to be exactly like me and use all the stupid internet vernacular I used

Stop being a child. You have a lot of work to do on yourself if you ever want to achieve a modicum of happiness.

>>15907650
Choose this life you’re on your own

>>15907821

i indeed became more negative, but i see the motivations behind what normies do and it disgusts me
>all these fat ugly people and shitskins walking on the streets wearing gucci, l&v just to showcase their "status"
>people leaving beyond their means and eating out everyday and travelling to exotic locations just to brag on instagram to their friends
>dudebros only thinking about pussy, doing everything for it, lifting, grooming, buying expensive cars, and having zero morals, some would sell their friend group for some pussy, this thirst is disgusting
>roasties as young teens, being a hoes, already putting tons of make up on and degrading themselves to get validation from guys which builds their ego
>then you have old boomers that are egotistical and only think about themselves with zero care for others
>wagecucks that are so apathetic that talking to them drains your life energy

i'm not saying everyone is like that, but 80% of people surely are and i don't think it's anything wrong with not liking this kind of society

>>15907834
>>15907858

i'd appreciate any concrete suggestions

>>15907871
80% of people aren’t like this. You spend all of your time focusing on negative things that you dislike because it doesn’t mesh with your world view.

You have to start small by trying to have legitimate conversations with people and not judge them immediately because of something they wear or say. Don’t try to force feed your misanthropy to them. Everyone has some unique life experience and some people are extremely boring, but some people are also extremely interesting.

Start by trying to interact with some new people and suppress your extreme urge to talk about how shitty they are or run away and read 4chan on your phone.

How old are you?

>>15907650
Be part of a less degenerate part of society? Dumbass

>>15907858
You're not supposed to be happy. You're supposed to be not sad.
>>15907871
Eat relatively well, exercise a little every week, sleep 8 hours every night at relatively the same time, shower every day, groom well, dress how you wanna dress. Then work on something everyday that takes a while to complete. Complete it. Then do another. After a while you look back and you'll feel a level of contentment and peace you probably right now don't think is possible. Also people around you will notice and it just feels good to be noticed for the hard work you do. It's better than being noticed for wearing LV and going on debt-trips

>>15907929
>Everyone has some unique life experience

>>15907968

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>>15907978
>sits around all day sharing contrived memes that have been shared as infinitum such as “NPC” and “NEET”
>Thinks he’s above anyone else

You need to work on yourself too if you ever want to stop being a loser.

>>15907992
>muh mental illness
youre a pussy

Individualism.

>>15907992
kill yourself I suffer everyday faggot

>>15907992
Take it from someone who has suffered with various forms of “mental illness” (I.e. bipolar, various strong symptoms of cluster B personality disorders, depression, substance abuse just to name a few) that all of those things are very good suggestions. But also making a concerted effort to wanting to change is important and being able to deal with the intense discomfort that comes from making effort to change.

>>15908012
imagine calling anyone else a loser on an anonymous anime imageboard

>>15908026
that's what got us into this mess

>>15907787
I don't want to get my cock and balls tortured.

>>15907650
start a family, build your own micro society. simple

>>15907650
You are what you eat. Eat more red meat and eggs and you’ll feel like a superior Lion. Eat like a pussy vegetarian or vegan and you’ll feel like an inferior and oppressed Giraffe.
It all start with from within, the solution is to start with yourself and regain mental clarity and control. See through the facades of society and become what they are trying to get rid off— A real man.

>>15908000
>>15908023
>>15908038
>>15908043
I don’t have any mental illness but seriously exercise and diet are so suggested by fags on reddit all the time after they watched an episode of JRE once that it’s just so tiresome

>>15908071
again, shut the fuck up

>>15908071
Have real goals. Work hard to accomplish them. Poof, your depression will be gone.

Stop identifying with other people. Why care if they are living in a way that you disapprove of. Why care if they are living in filth and ignorance? You still have the infantile mentality of viewing society through the lens of yourself, in other words your individual ego is underdeveloped. You are not other people, they are not you. They could be wild animals for all you need care.

>>15908085
Reading that yellow text made me nauseous who the fuck made this pic

>>15908073
No
>>15908085
Oh yes take advice from the guy addicted to benzodiazepines that’s a great idea.

Fucking JRE fags I swear.

Endure and focus on God, screw everything else. Something better is coming.

>>15908098
>t. miserable

>>15908097
I can change it to white if you want, i didnt think the yellow was that unnerving.

>>15908055
This is, in your own terms, “cope.” Not everyone here is a complete failure with an external hard drive full of wojaks and frogs. (I used to be a major loser too though and it took me a good four difficult and painful years to get to a place where I am satisfied with who I am and where my life is going...and those four years were preeeded by 20 years of mostly misery).

>>15908095
>Stop identifying with other people. Why care if they are living in a way that you disapprove of. Why care if they are living in filth and ignorance? You still have the infantile mentality of viewing society through the lens of yourself, in other words your individual ego is underdeveloped. You are not other people, they are not you. They could be wild animals for all you need care.

how could not caring about society help anything?

>>15907929

partially agree with you but
>vocal minortiy is degenerate exactly like i described
>other, non-vocal people are either indimated by vocal degenerates and are quiet and fearful or just plain npcs
>a very large majority of people are normies that support everything that is shilled on news and are (((tolerant))) to everything
>then you have christcucks and alt-right who are just bitter and cringe
there are not much quality and based people out there

>>15907929
>You have to start small by trying to have legitimate conversations with people and not judge them immediately because of something they wear or say. Don’t try to force feed your misanthropy to them. Everyone has some unique life experience and some people are extremely boring, but some people are also extremely interesting.

i'm actually a very good conversationalist, i listen well, know how to have a harmonious conversation, how to flirt, don't have trouble with girls. actually, i'm the one that used to bring all the people together, make them laugh and bond, it's natural to me. the thing is, i don't want to do it anymore because i don't like society that surrounds me. i don't want to put that effort anymore and starting to think about only myself but i'm unhappy in the process because i need and enjoy good company. i'll be 25 soon.

>>15907968
i'm already doing all of that man. i have my everyday schedule that i follow and i'm quite disciplined. but you must understand that i don't want to fight in the rat race to impress normies.

>>15908112
cool reddit post

>>15907753
If we met IRL we'd probably fit together alright, there are people out there that aren't retarded/degenerate/bluepilled, don't lose hope.

>>15908023
Exposed bitch here

https://imgur.com/u8Ic0Is

buy chainlink and laugh at normans

>>15908095

thanks man, i think this is my problem. i view everything through the lens of ideal that i wish to achieve myself. how do i prevent that or rather develop the individual ego, do you have any suggestions? i still need to live in this society if i don't want to be isolated, how to be unphased by the people that disgust you cause they represent everything that you despise?

>>15908125
There are lowly, ignorant, and filthy people in the world. Stop holding them to the same standard you hold yourself to. Allow yourself to feel superior to others. There are probably people wiser and more refined than you as well. People are not all spiritually equal, there's nothing wrong about different classes of people existing at the same time.

>>15908070
Lions are giraffe's bitches.

>>15908150

i'm already loaded man. 1000 eoy.

>>15908133
The more you base your mentality on 4chan, the unhappier you will be. Most things here should be taken as a joke, not taken seriously.

>>15907831
>thats just an excuse for people to gather
>excuse for people to gather
that you think gatherings should require some excuse tells me you have a lllooooooonnnnnnggg way to go. society is degenerate and bad, you say. reminder that if youre wrong and continue to distance yourself, youll just be a loser. and if youre right the outcome is just as bad, so may as well try

>>15907753
become the next hitler and fix it then

>>15908163
This is the same thinking that allows men to believe that women can be independent and/or leaders. Stop believing in shit that isn’t true.

>>15907726
Most based anon

>>15907650
Killer theory

>>15908155
Seek out people that you can enjoy interacting with, find some friends on your level. The masses you can just think of them as uneducated common folk with childlike or animal-like proclivities. No need to hate them per se, more just recognize them as what they are rather than what they 'ought to be'.

>>15907650
Whatever you do, don't wage.

>>15907992
Fuck you faggot, by this logic it is impossible to beat depression. No wonder you stay that way, weak.

>>15908182

>>15908155
>how to be unphased by the people that disgust you cause they represent everything that you despise
The best way to get rid of a problem is to prevent it from happening in the first place...in other words, simply don't associate with people and just do your own thing. The saying goes that no man is an island; however, technology increasingly makes it possible that not only can a man be an island, but he can thrive in doing so. But first, you must untether yourself from the masses and learn to just do your own thing.

>>15907726
Based. OP question is still good and interesting tho.

>>15907650
>be a part of this degenerate society
>feel empty, lost and unhappy
>>reject this degenerate society
>feel lonely, angry at ignorance of people and unhappy
rejecting something implies you had a stake in the first place. The opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference.

>>15908289
I feel like OP but I dont wanna be accepted despite people wanting to accept me, I hate everyone except my family which I tolerate.

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>>15907650
An Hero before it gets any worse.

>>15907650
Work to improve the society.

>>15907650
As long as you keep thinking you're better than everyone else, you're gonna be miserable because the reality you live in doesn't back up your delusion.

>>15907692
Just get a church girl. LMAO. This might sound strange to you, boomer, Christianity doesn't align with my beliefs. I consider it degenerate. Islam is probably closer to my beliefs (at least in regards to women), but I hate the violence, I hate the shitskin retards, I hate sticking my ass in the air like faggot 5 times a day.

REALIZE

YOU ARE NOT THEM

>>15908162
>>15908204

good advice, the difficult part is finding like minded people irl, there are no anonymous settings like chans so people can tell what they truly feel irl, chatting up 100 people to find 1 based anon, if at all, is also very time consuming

>>15908254

so your suggestion is living in isolation from society?

>>15908302

i never implied i didn't have a stake in it, actually i said the contrary. i know indifference is probably the healtiest attitude but it feels defitist, like you've accepted defeat that society can't be improved.

>>15908506

this could be true too

>>15907650
Build a homestead in a small villagewith a catholic church.
One that do its mass in latin, not the satanic protestant branch that currently occupy the Vatican.

>>15907650
This is always the solution. It converts negative qualities into peace. Not a self-help book btw, it's a meditation technique that is super easy.

>>15908720
Here's the free version. Some mad man did it, he wrote the whole thing. Read the intro.

http://www.damienboyle.com/page23/files/TMDMTEB.pdf

>>15907650
Stop focusing on your surroundings, focus on what's inside you. Mentally and physically.
The problem is not what's happening, it's the tool you're using to perceive what's happening.