/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15892606
As the previous rounds of QE have proved, it's not highly inflationary, no matter how much gold bugs and cryptonuts want it to be.

>>15892986
glowin

>>15892986
Hello alphabet douche bag

>>15892999
trips of truth

>>15892986
Yes, because 2 million dollars for a shack is nothing out of the ordinary, neither are p/e valuations of 100... Nothing to worry about...

>>15893016
If something has a p/e valuation that high, it's probably because expected future earnings are MUCH higher than current earnings.

As for shacks, that's just supply and demand. If you want to reduce demand, don't wreck the rest of the economy; tax the shacks!

>>15892606
QE4 means we have failed and will continue to fail to stop the spiral of hyper deflation. Not one man in 1000 understands this.

>>15892986
>every market over inflated by 30-40%
>its ok because everything is going up and up is always good
im not fucking selling till you hang from a tree.

>>15892606
jump in the shower after pooping! problem sovled

>>15894028
>deflation is bad
for a brief moment, purchasing power will return to the consumer. I like the idea of buying some classic car off a dying boomer for like a tenth of what he was selling it before.
Then I cry as my dollars go up in flames with hyperinflation as the retarded jews print massive amounts of currency to retake that purchasing power back from the goyim.
Anyways, buy gold & silver and shheeeeit
>t. mike maloney

>>15892986
We are going to have QE and negative interest rates. There is going to be a global move to precious metals.

>>15894259
i wish a nigger would

>>15892986
>it's not highly inflationary
because all the money prnted goes into bonds.
As soon as it goes into real life of people you will see inflation
Then you should have gold or silver
I don't wno when it will happen tought

>>15894259
>negative interest rates
what do you mean? Negative interest rates with bonds?

>>15892986
>As the previous rounds of QE have proved, it's not highly inflationary, no matter how much gold bugs and cryptonuts want it to be.

>>15892986
>say something reasonable
>get spammed by schizo doomer fags
I dont even feel bad for all the people here losing money on SPY puts. Its hilarious

>>15893016

This is inflation brought on by private banks creating money.

QE is money printing by the reserve bank to keep the whole scam ticking along.

>>15894390

Negative interest rates means you pay to save your money thus incentivising you to spend.

>>15894408
see >>15894367

>>15894434
>as soon as it goes into real life of people
kill yourself you absolutely retarded 3rd world goldbug. Die alone in a trailer home

>>15892606
BTC is now worth 1 million a piece and John McAfee still has a dick.

>>15894413
> negative interests means you pay to save your money thus incentivising you to spend
And what does this mean for the econmy?
Isn't a good thing that citizens spend and let the economy of a state grown?

>>15894413
>QE is money printing by the reserve bank to keep the whole scam ticking along
why do they need QE to keep the whole scam ticking along?
What do they get from this scam?
Free dollars printing... Do these dollars belong to them? No... it would be illegal.
So where all this new money printed goes?

>>15894495
kek

>>15894248
Deflation itself is not bad. However the result in demand that normally accompanies deflation is bad.

>>15894367
>As soon as it goes into real life of people you will see inflation
And when that happens, there will be a change of policy.
But it's not going to be VERY inflationary. What you fail to comprehend is that the amount of money going in the real economy is limited not by the amount in the financial economy, but buy the supply of profitable customers that the banks can find to lend to.

>>15895086
And what does this mean for the econmy?
Isn't a good thing that citizens spend and let the economy of a state grown?

>>15894868
That's why they're doing it but if people aren't spending it has a reason behind it. It simply means people either don't make enough, or there aren't enough products to satisfy them, and it signals fundamental problems in the economy that printing money won't fix. Of course it won't ruin the economy either, but certain goods, specifically things that require loans like houses and cars which is something a lot of people need, will have an inflated price. There's not anything wrong with it in principle, but instead of letting the economy crash and fix it, it continually stagnates instead and grows more inefficient over time since the factors that cause the decline are still existent. It's not bad per se, but if the purchasing power and efficiency keep declining once it crashes it will be way worse

>>15894408

>keynesian retardation
>reasonable

>>15894879
>So where all this new money printed goes?
Into the housing and secondary market bubble

>>15895776
>It's not bad per se, but if the purchasing power and efficiency keep declining once it crashes it will be way worse
Why should this game crash? Can't simply go on this way indefinitly?

up

>>15895733
Yes, i's a good thing, but there are two caveats:
Firstly, if the demand grows so much it exceeds the capacity to supply, inflation will rise significantly.
Secondly, it's not just citizens spending, but also corporations and governments. The more people spend, the less governments can spend before inflation problems occur.

>>15895786
>can't see any objective flaw
>doesn't fit your biases
>so label it retardation

>>15895776
Letting the economy crash won't fix it.
Letting the economy grow will fix it.

>>15896096
In theory there's nothing to stop it going this way indefinitely.
In practice there will always be economic cycles. Governments can damp them, reset them and even exploit them, but can't stop them completely. Some communists would probably claim full communism would stop the economic cycle, but they're wrong.

>>15892986
Finally someone else who isn't an idiot around here.

Protip: Stop reading fucking ZeroHedge.

>>15895806
An analist told me that all this money printing goes into bonds... forgive my ignorance...HOW does this money goes into bonds? They print money to repair the debt?
But is this shit legal?
Which state prints the money to repair debt?
What does the federal banc cares if USA has debt? If venezuela has debt?
This I don't understand

>>15896546
>In theory there's nothing to stop it going this way indefinitely.
In practice there will always be economic cycles. Governments can damp them, reset them and even exploit them, but can't stop them completely. Some communists would probably claim full communism would stop the economic cycle, but they're wrong.

so they can simply print money forever and the scam goes on and on ...sometime they crash the market and another cicle begins

So why should I buy silver in a world where they will simply printing money forver?

>>15894035
I have a detachable shower head, so I just sit on the edge of the tub and use it as a makeshift bidet. Works great and leaves me clean as a whistle!

>>15894248
Everyone thinks they can helicopter in cash to stop the deflationary black hole. It’s a bluff, they threw everything at it last time and just bought a few years. Look at the 30 year chart of the fed funds rate

>>15892986
>laughs in real estate, education, and healthcare

>>15897173
>Some communists would probably claim full communism would stop the economic cycle, but they're wrong.
BTW the reason why they're wrong is because supply and demand will always fluctuate.

>so they can simply print money forever and the scam goes on and on
It's not a scam, Anon, despite the superficial resemblance.

>...sometime they crash the market and another cicle begins
Though governments and central banks have crashed the market before, it was the private sector that crashed the market in the GFC.

>So why should I buy silver in a world where they will simply printing money forver?
Siver is pretty useful stuff. Not only is shiny, but it has the lowest electrical resistance of any known isotropic substance. Its value has a much better chance of rising than bitcoin, so it's quite good for speculation. But it will never resume its former role as money.

>>15897153
The money exists as a closed loop. Effectively they borrow from themselves.
The USA's debt is mostly a red herring - they have no need to ever eliminate it.
Venezuela's problems are mainly the result of the value of its currency being set by the government rather than the market. They fixed the Bolivar to the US dollar, and kept it fixed when the price of oil halved, so they couldn't trade their way out of trouble. They than ran out of dollars, and the Bolivar's value collapsed.

>>15892986
kys

>>15894032
This
It's just a trick to strip you of possesions in exchange for a meme monopoly money
Not fucking selling