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they made enough money.
unironically, what else?

>receive no foreign aid
>goes from being Africa tier poor, to being Eastern Europe poor.
what did the west mean by this?

>>15878474
1 answer.

moderate national socialism.

China has been one of the top economies/(local) political powers for millenia, just in the last couple centuries they stumbled by not adapting to the rise of the west quickly enough. Now the west is stumbling itself by discussing diversity quotas and gender spectra while china copies its technology and blasta forward.

>>15878558
>>15878542
>>15878513

((They)) gave them shit tons of American wealth for nothing, so they could destroy the west/humanity in general.

We literally paid taxes and everything we bought for the last 30 years went straight to the communist party.

Boomers let this happen like every other fucked up thing in this world, duh.

>>15878474
2000's western kids wanted to become managers, zoomers today want to become streamers. 2000's Chinese kids wanted to become Engineers, Scientists or Astronauts, and so do todays Chinese kids. In my Engineering classes there were maybe five Canadian kids out of 150 people, ten Eastern Europeans and the rest of the classes were evenly divided between Indians and Chinese.. Its a very different society with very different priorities. This is probably the last time when the West can challenge and attempt to subdue China.

I really don't want to live under the kind of surveillance and laws China deploys on its populace, but they're doing a lot of things right. The west resembles a 16th century Poland where a democratic assembly of nobles could be blocked by a single vote from any minor noble while China resembles the strong autocratic states (France, Sweden, Russia) that carved Poland up in the following centuries. The problem is espetially pronounced in Toronto where any boomer nimby can block construction of new infrastructure or housing indefinitely, causing societal rot and decay just so that they can be comfy for a few decades before they kick the curb. Here's an interesting gif of how many subways China built up. We built I believe, less than five new stations in Toronto meanwhile.

>>15878565
Yup. I remmember in 2017 every newspaper was buzzing about how we added a third gender option on our passports. What did the Chinese do in 2017? The Chinese have successfully tested quantum communication with their satellites.

>>15878474
Hard work.
Burgers used to know what that is, now burgerland is the country of baristas and shit.

>>15878474
US investment

>>15878474

Might have something to do with that fact that the device you are posting from, as well as at least 75% of the things you purchase were produced there

China will conquer the world in rhe following 10 years. The trade war is the US's last chance to contain the insectmen.

i am sorry for all those who think its because of US.
the chinese are work and no play! they party a tenth of the amount of time the westerners do and expect a tenth in return for their labour.

maybe not anymore about expecting a tenth in return but they simply work much harder than people here. It was a matter of time before the technological superiority that some countries had this last century would get lost

>>15878542
China was never African tier poor and they've always had civilization. Communist fucked their economy and culture. They still have a billion citizens though. That's 4x the labor potential than the u.s. and unlike the u.s they're still growing.

As China becomes more capitalist its economy will continue to grow.

Imagine the gdp of China if they had American living standards. There's no competition.

China should be 3 separate nations realistically. It would be like if the u.s and Europe were one nation.

>>15878634
This post will have aged extremely poorly. Autocratic states all suffer massive declines, or they reform.

>>15878816
At least they'll have more subways.

>>15878691
Fuck off you stupid boomer.

>>15878839
That is barista talking.

>>15878816
Maybe, Im not a prophet. Before I used to believe that giving people the right incentives is the way forward, but sometimes the system takes so long to adjust and adjusts so slowly that society can get fucked by then. Say our world famous housing prices. We have an election in a few days and probably the most real proposal to bring the prices down to a more reasonable level is a 1% tax on foreign buyers. Its a good start, and will attack the marginal demand for housing, but realistically its nothing. Thailand only allows foreign ownership of housing over 2M USD I believe. In a lot of East Asia/South East Asia its banned completely. Israel taxes 2nd dwellings with a punishing double digit tax for both foreigners and citizens. I'm not against foreign investment at all, but places like Thailand got it right, Canada didn't. An autocratic state can correct course quickly, and China's govmnt figured out a system where they can reap productivity and innovation but still maintain control. People laughing at empty cities a decade ago? They're full now, filled with productive people and good infrastructure. What does the west have as an answer to that?

>>15878744
>>15878766
>work harder
>can't even build escalators
>can't even exert the energy to care about a 5 year old run over by a truck.

Most Chinese people are still making a living fishing in polluted rivers, selling styrofoam peanuts as rice and selling rancid pigs filled with illegally bought steroids and hormones.

Are you a member of the 50 cent army?

>>15878870
Name one way in which boomers ever worked hard?

Chink lovers get the rope

>>15878719
If you believe the trade war is doing us any good, you're either uneducated or deluded beyond saving

>>15878891
They never did. They parents did.

>>15878594
Your corporations just outsourced labor to third world but guess what over time third world didn’t stay third that is they got a little rich, a little more powerful.

>>15878670
This is what happens when you put women in charge

>>15878558
nothing moderate about it. the ccp makes nsdap look like amateurs.

2 billion people.
None of them are niggers.

>>15878879
well, give that fisherman in that polluted river some nice equipment and he will still work his ass off.

even in europe you see differences in work morale, just compare the french with their weekly strikes and 35 hours work week with the germans who did not have minimum salary until like two years ago...

and the germans, well they work hard. they actually reduce their national debt ffs.

requesting the screen caps of 1.) the guy that imports steel and details how chinks hustle everyone they can and 2.) the post detailing the history of china that lays out how they became brutal soulless bug people

i know someone’s got to have them and they are very relevant to this thread

>>15878998
>the post detailing the history of china that lays out how they became brutal soulless bug people
England opium trade?

The weird thing about China is the majority of Westerners still have a really outdated view of China

Literally go visit any major city, it feels like the future.

The life quality of middle class Chinese is fucking luxurious. Cheap housing, can eat out every day, leisure everywhere, everything not rip off Jew prices, etc

>>15879113
>fucking luxurious
And ecological!
They refine\harvest cooking oil from sewer waste!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fz6oFI31i4
about 25% of all cooking oil is recycled oil.

fried cockroaches in recycled oil. yuuumm

>>15878998
Found this on pol just a few moments ago
Did you mean this?

>>15879165
Anyone can cherry pick though

Literally the most brainlet thing anybody can do about a country

>>15879197
you're kind of cherrypicking as well, posting that life is good for people lucky enough to not live in state-controlled misery

>>15878474
Massive market and a government that can throw a company out in a second.

>>15878998
I read 1) every time someone posts it, but I've never bothered to save the pic. Fuck me.

>>15879470
>>15878998
https://imgur.com/r/4chan/lrNHGbS
found it by googling "do not learn chinese"

>>15879197
>>15879217
would you like to see the basic factual UN data?
https://www.gapminder.org/tools/

>>15879484
Chyna is the big red bubble, USA is the biggest green bubble (bubble size is number of people in that country)

>>15879185
>>15879478

yep, these are the what i was on about! nice one lads

>>15878719
they have 4chan in china?

>>15878474
By cheating.

They had an insatiable demand driver in the US along with cucked western world ready to sell their kids for a few more shekels.

>>15879113
You are clueless. Life in China for anyone except the top 5% is hell on earth and even the top 5% could live better outside China (hence why rich Chinks all want to leave)

>>15878967
>just compare the french with their weekly strikes
Kek, this. It's already over for the west.

>>15878634
>>15878816
The level of infrastructure improvement and the speed at which it the government allows it to be performed are INFINITELY greater than the west. In my American city they are discussing construction of a small addition to the highway - it will take 14 years, and that is just the estimated time now. That's not factoring in the inevitable eons of delays. The same project would be completed in China in under a year.

Our political system and frustrated and exasperated development to a crippling state. Due to legislation and bureaucracy, we cannot repair our crumbling cities, we cannot improve or expand our infrastructure and it is a slow rolling catastrophe that no one discusses. Now factor in partisanship and hedonistic political corruption on top of all of the bureaucracy and we are a few short steps from free fall. Idk how we get out of this and I don't know where I can go to avoid the collapse.

>>15878474
Why are you so obsessed with China?

>>15879780
Only based anon here. When will we realize China-bashing is not the way to go. We need to take an honest look at ourselves and figure out a way to coexist with them, and at the very least preserve our culture and way of life

>>15878474
the west is a bloated bureaucracy that fight each other over non-issue like diversity and trans right. while china is 1 single ruling party working together, hellbent on dominating the world

its all an illusion, their infrastructure will crumble to dust and theyll all go back to eating grass by EOY.

>>15878474
Slave labor

Is blizz stock worth picking up? It’s on a dip, and it should spike with the holiday season and call of duty coming out. Blizzcon could be huge, but in either direction.

>>15880136
the 'bloated bureaucracy' part is only within public domain anon

>he doesn't know about the shadowfork

>>15878474
the opium war, do you think we forget whiteboi?

>>15880016
This. Do that or be assimilated by the bugmen.

>>15878474
High IQ population meets industrialization.

>>15879780
I'm not sure why there are so man US skeptics amongst you, but it sure is annoying and sounds like some kids cry for help.
The US literally subdued the whole world through either monetary, political or military means. End of story.
You should not be doing thought-civil war amongst yourselves, that is your only problem. The US was literally able to subdue almost every country, while most people still think that they are free.
China will never be able to do this. Not to mention the fact that 1) communism is basically slavery 2) and it works really well as long (and only as long) as you can spend on it. This the US leaders know. Hence the trade war.

>>15879662
they do but not reddit kek

>>15880706
Most are caveman tier dumb, but they have respect for tradition and authority. They grew smart ones raise to the top and now they have an emotionless juggernaut that will dominate the planet. They have zero respect for individualism, the environment, and creativity. They will consume the Earth like locusts and our neutered societies are deaf to the incoming disaster, trans colored rights are our TOP priority

>>15880828
How much is "most" faggot. A country of 1.3 billion population has a higher average IQ than us. Last thing we want to compare with asians is intelligence. We need to take a good hard look at ourselves

>>15880778
Reddit just took a shitton of money from the Chinese though

>>15878474
they have an army of insects

>>15879662
>inverted nipple
is this the new birth control?
>>15879791
fuck off you faggot bug

>>15881250
What was the last thing Chinese invented retard? All they do is imitate. True there are some smart ones, but even the rich Chinese are stupid double boomers. I'm taking insect eating mush brains. If we didn't have a cucked society they'd be no concern at all.

>>15878474
The answer the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) wants you to believe is that the CCP produced a superior economic system to the West and it allowed China to become powerful. Certainly the CCP deserves a good deal of credit but it's only half the story, and it's a half that ignores for example the massive growth of Taiwan which is a Chinese majority country only democratic and fully capitalist which has had arguably even better growth than China over the same period of time (also don't forget that the CCP fakes its growth numbers).

The other half of the story and arguably more significant is because of a failure of the West to reign in China.

>>15882273
>(cont)

See, after the Cold War ended the West became enamoured with the idea that the West's system (liberal democracy + capitalism) was the final form of human development. This was best expressed in the book "The End of History" which was more or less the de facto bible of Western foreign policy in the post-Cold War era. The idea was that we had reached the end of history because the Western model was supreme; that the wealthier a country got the more democratic it would get, because the wealthy citizens would demand rights, just how it happened in the West. The Tiannamen protests further entrenched this idea in the mind of Western leaders, who felt that if they made China wealthy then the Chinese masses would naturally rise up against the CCP and demand democracy. This is why for example the West allowed China to join the World Trade Organisation (which opened up Chinese markets to the world) but turned a blind eye for decades when China didn't meet the conditions of the WTO membership (i.e. China fixed their exchange rates, forced terms into contracts that required foreign companies to do a certain percentage of their manufacturing in-China using Chinese owned companies, etc., all against WTO rules), and why Obama and earlier Presidents all repeated the phrase "we welcome a strong, prosperous China" like a mantra: because they literally believed that if China got rich it would become democratic naturally.

That didn't work. In fact the opposite happened, which China now being more authoritarian than any time since Mao. So the answer is both because of the CCP's pragmatic leadership but also because of the failure of Western leadership who were enamoured by stupid ideologies.

TL;DR: The CCP played the West for fools.

>>15882065
>>15882091
>>15882103
>>15882126
This shit is absolutely a CIA operation.

Also why the fuck do these faggots bitch about freedom of speech and censorship in china? WE HAVE FUCKLOADS OF CENSORSHIP IN THE FUCKING US. DEPLATFORMING OUT THE ASS! The only thing these faggots do is say dont talk shit about China. You can literally do whatever the fuck else you want.

>>15882321
There is nothing wrong with pointing out the fact that China is a bugmen surveillance state that cannot work without constant threats and fear.
If anything this is good, as it will eventually lead the masses to denouncing the surveillance in their own countries.

>>15882374
> bugmen surveillance state that cannot work without constant threats and fear.
You are joking right? I think you are using bugmen wrong. They do act like insectoids and thats one of the reasons they are going to surpass us. However that country is not in constant threat or fear outside of chinks whom want jobs. If the kikes could get away with that level of shit here in the US they would. How the fuck do you think China is so strong? It is the insectoids and the nationalist tier spirit from chinamens.
>denouncing the surveillance in their own countries.
Some of the shit you normie faggots says is fucking hilarious. The only reason countries like the UK and US need surveillance is because of the ever increasing size of multicultural societies. There is no going back or stopping the surveillance state.

>>15882441
I meant the bugmen are under constant threats and fear not the country or the CCP itself, my bad on that one.
After all, their currency system works on who is the goodest of the soulless work force. (If I remember correctly)

>Nationalistic
It's more of a corporate pride than a nationalistic one, they did lose a shit ton of their "culture" in the Great Leap Forward to the point where all they have left is how much stuff their country can pump out to the market.

>Surveillance for the nigs
If anything is to keep the white population in check and stop any kind of "Radical Violence" that could form as a result of the giant influx of culture-erasing minorities into their countries. There is a reason why the poor nignogs get away with so much shit, including having taken part in wars.

I think it's just the nature of power/wealth. It's all cyclical.

Power and wealth eventually corrupt and weaken over time. It's just like pic related. China have gone through their hard times. The West (US in particular) are going through our "Good times". I know it's a meme but the idea rings true I think. It's pretty much indisputable USA is mostly full of weak men. Our leaders are weak, their opposition is weak. It's all extremely weak, and lesser countries are always going to take advantage of this. Oh yeah, and $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

>>15878474
They worked/starve 15% of the population to death to create an industrial base and accelerate industrialization in the late 1950s, violently suppressed dissent over horrible conditions and mass confiscated private property in the 1960s-1970s to fund the CCP machine, and completely disregarded environmental damage and pollution and worker safety.

tl;dr an economic powerhouse built on blood and tears

>>15878816
Atleast they’re not fat and gay

>>15883027
Majority of civilizations in history are built on blood and tears, it's a moot point. It's just a matter of whose blood and tears they built it from - their own or the subjugated

>>15878474
IP theft and credit expansion. They're reaching their limits now.

>>15878474
Jews

>>15882558
that shit is moronic garbage i always see dumb shit trad faggots repeat that. Its not even true.

>>15883194
Weak man detected.

>>15878474

> A billion people, all of them working their ass off
> Hard work is highly valued, debt and laziness are not
> They think in hundreds of years, not tens
> A totalitarian government who cares little about rights and everything about progress

gee I wonder why they are about to become the number one superpower. Really the ONLY thing they lack is American creativity and leadership spirit.

>>15883370
>he thinks jews were the strongest men during ww2
You will never make it.

their population isn't very diverse at all so identity politics to distract

>>15882441
This is what happens when you think edginess is a replacement for reason

>>15883521
Look guy just because you think reality is "edgy" doesn't make it not true. Just fuck off back to lebbit where you can get the baby version of reality alright.

>>15878949
true

China was always a major power, they just declined during the latter half of the Qing dynasty. When the dynasty was finally overthrown, warlords, Japanese, communists, and republicans all fought for power, resulting in mass amounts of death.

Then Mao forced millions of farmers off of farms and into factories causing millions of more deaths.

Then the Chinese realized communism is retarded and people stopped dying. Then the west opened up its markets to China and the Chinese government capitalized on this and took over manufacturing. Then they stole our tech. And our leaders sat by and let it happen because economists claimed this was good. And to be fair, it was hard to argue against since our economy was booming too.

>>15878474
Serious question, How can I move to China and study there?

>>15880828
Your special snowflake mentality will be your down fall and the rest of the west...

>>15878474
Manufacturing
Natural Resources
Foreign Investing

>>15882289
If you’ve ever been to Taiwan, you’d know it was a massive shithole compared to China. Their economic growth is a joke now...

>>15883777
Dumbest thing a person could do.

>>15878474
Nationalism.
>china numbah 1
>"taiwan num-"
>fak u1!!!!!!!1111
They are all on the same page about making China numbah 1. Not to mention they all work like slaves and think it's normal.

>>15882309
>CIA operation

literal brainlette

>>15878877
>People laughing at empty cities a decade ago? They're full now, filled with productive people and good infrastructure. What does the west have as an answer to that?

I just saw a video from a couple years ago showing a ghost city with poorly built houses and they were talking about ghost cities being numerous in China. Given how China's banks are running out of money and the Bank of China nearly defaulted within the past few months, I find this very hard to believe.

>>15883957
literal CIA nigger

>>15878542
t. uncultured retard

China received a shitton of capital from the US and then Europe during the 70s, do you think labor outsourced itself?
After the travel of Kissinger in 71 the US began sending them money (so they would not go under soviet influence) and then by the time Mao was dead in 76 they began a massive series of investment which peaked in the 80s.

China was a ricefield before westerners foolishly brought money, machineries and skills in China just to make cheaper plastic shits.

>>15880765
the only reason this was possible was usd as reserve currency and petrodollar. also destruction of german industrial base after ww2. the us has obviously lost its mind and under direct control of israel. patience with america is growing thin and everyones looking for alternatives. what china represents:
https://youtu.be/afhQtQCi0XI?t=108

>>15878474
China is incredibly based. America is a circus full of retarded faggots now, let it die.

Hey /biz/ Shrimp guy here, so. Bought 3 tanks and I'll be starting the project soon so I need a good feeding guide.
Also, unrelated question.
Its beating on binary options retarded? I'm kinda broke right now because of the economic crisis in my country, I'm converting everything I make to dollars.

>>15879780
>they build roads faster
Yes
because they're a DEVELOPING nation
the USA is a DEVELOPED nation, the infrastructure is good enough, making new roads/subways is not as much of a priority

and of course...


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Millions of chinks were boosted to the middle class and millionaire class, while millions of Americans wages have stagnated or even dropped.

>>15882309
>>15882321
Remember the tactics you see here. They are everywhere now, desperately trying to paint the Hong Kong protesters as anything other than an oppressed people fighting back against monstrous tyranny.

>>15885134
need a higher quality version of that desu

>>15884955
Imagine thinking this is a good thing, the goal of being developed is use technology as an advantage and keep evolving faster and faster, if you can't continuously do that, you'll eventually stagnate

Treasonous democrats and liberals, and jews.

>Henry kissinger Opened trade with china to the world
>US acknowledges China as legitimate government instead of the actual legitimate government in taiwan who fled from the communist taking over china.
>Treasonous Democrats give banks power who force corporations to move their business to china for cheaper labor costs.
>globalist want chinese style government world wide so they make 15 year plan to kill the United States and transfer Wealth and World power from the west to the east.
>their plans go to shit as soon as trump was elected thanks to US military asking him to run for president.

>>15884955
How does a developing nation have Nuclear weapons and can build entire cities in only a few months?

>>15878594
China unironically saved the US

>>15884963
Stay poor

>>15885231
Stop posting

>>15885203
>have nukes
>50% of pop shits on streets
>developed nation
that one's specifically for India since it's easier to show the absurdity of your statement
China's a developing nation, t. UN
deal with it

>>15885231
triggered bugman

>>15885172
then every developed nation on earth, currently, or in history, has failed according to your imaginary criteria.

China will stagnate. And it's going to stagnate hard due to its policies.

>>15885261
>China's a developing nation, t. UN
This, china's only considered a development nation because they keep lobbying the UN to not change their status because they'd lose some privileges that they are right now abusing pretty hard.

>>15885312
What privileges? Free gibs?

>>15885312
You sure?
Their inflated self reported GDP per capita from building ghost cities puts them behind mexico

>>15884955
pffffffaHAHAHAHAHAHA do you even live here? The country is at a fucking standstill.

>>15885345
>anecdotal evidence
but please, continue, you self defeatist cuck

>>15885361
Every public transportation project since the 90s has been dead. Only a pozzed socdem faggot could think that the USA is fully developed and needs no more progress.

>>15878474
corporations routinely cu.ck out to china because of its massive population. they are afraid that china will ban their business from the chinese market completely. bc of that, these businesses do whatever the chinese govt tells them to do bc they'd rather have profits than none.

>>15878474
We bought cheap shit from them, closed our factories, fired the workers.

>addicted to cheap junk
>factories are closed opening one is expensive
>niggers are not productive
>only thing we know how to do anymore is service

China can now raise their prices because we're stupid.

Also china= massive economies of scale.

>>15878474
The went from communist to mostly capitalist and things got really good really fast for them. They still have a dictatorship but if you look at private ownership and how their laws have changed it's much more capitalist.

>>15885931
India and SE Asia will be the big winners from the conflict with China. Cheap manufacturing will continue to move there and chinks will go back to eating dogs.

>>15878766
Why do people say about the China huddle and how everything is fake or scam like vechain

>>15878542
>no foreign aid
A thread died for this...

>>15881928
have you seen DJI, not anything like it in the west

>>15879113
youve obviously never been to China lmfao

>>15883027
the west did the same thing, its only the the last 30 years that they started to care about the environment

>>15879113

Chinese student studying abroad detected

>>15885361
wtf nigger? every major transportation project is taking eons or is failed. look at the bullet train in california for example. the writing is on the wall

>>15878634
Now imagine if instead of selling those class spots to the highest bidder that Canada actually worked to encourage its own people to study engineering. Really makes me think.

>>15884963
Thank you fren

skewed view of china because they've been the dominant empire for nearly 2000 years before they were destroyed by the British

just things returning to normal

>>15887429
ahaha

It's about absolute power. In my opinion the greatest system fo governance is an enlightened ruler. It's idealistic, but having a centralized authority actually matters a fuck ton when it comes to decision making but hurts the western idea of egalitarianism. So with china you had the kuomintang ruling china for nearly a century with an ironfist. Shit just gets done when you dont have legislative obstacles and an amoral attitude towards human capital.

>>15885134
>against monstrous tyranny.
you know the US is the same way right? 4+4chan and all these other sites were removed from the internet because kikes didn't like what was beign said. Fuck you CIA nigger fuckhead. The US has full on censorship just as china does but guess what? CHINA HAS LESS CENSORSHIP THEN THE FUCKING US DOES! You can literally say nigger and do whatever the fuck you want in China just do not talk shit about the fucking president. You stupid lying KIKE.

The USA spreads globohomo all over the earth and here you are bitching about China. Fuck you piece of shit FBI fuckhead.

>>15888271
You are clueless if you think there is more freedom of expression in China vs US
Marginal ideas aren't "deplatformed" they are forbidden by law and you will get locked up for even talking about certain things over text messages.
I get the frustration with the (((infiltration))) of the West, but that doesn't mean that "China has less censorship." That's just retarded. Go to China and see for yourself.

>>15879165
wow one case of disgusting shit happening in a country with 1.3 billion people. Totally proves ALL Chinese are subhuman!

>>15888351
>You are clueless if you think there is more freedom of expression in China vs US
Yes, actually they do the onyl different is that the in the US corporations are also working together with the US government to fuck us over.

There was a guy that made a fucking joker meme with his aks. They can't charge him with anything but you know what they fucking did? They are calling him into court for what? Why are they taking him to court for doing nothing? Its the same shit as China. Go fuck yourself. The only issues in china are talking shit about the chinese people themselves or about the Chinese government as a hole. YOU are a CIA nigger.

>Marginal ideas aren't "deplatformed" they are forbidden by law
How the fuck do you think this happens in the US? People have been fucking killed for having white nationalist opinions by the US government. The deplatforming and the unpersoning of people is worse then in China faggot. People have been visited by the fucking FBI FOR POSTING ON 4CHAN AND 4+4CHAN YOU DUMB FUCKHEAD. Antifa is literally the fucking arm of the US government and they get to do whatever the fuck they want to do.

>>15888351
>you will get locked up for even talking about certain things over text messages.
So will you in the US. The only difference is in China the text msgs are directed at the government. In the US you can be thrown in jail for having a fucking text msg about running people over if you are ever in an accident. Holy fuck man seriously the government will look at the past text msgs you've had and if you make a nigger joke and somehow you defend yourself against a nigger YOU WILL END UP IN PRISON FOR THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE.

Mericanu rack disciprine

>>15888351
>I get the frustration with the (((infiltration))) of the West,
Well this confirmed it for me. There really is a CIA nigger shill campaign on the internet.
>but that doesn't mean that "China has less censorship."
because it fucking does. If you do not insult the chinese goverment nor the people in China you can do literally whatever the fuck you want too. You can go to any of these chinese youtubers and the only fucking time they get in trouble is when they insult chinese people or the government. If you also tell me that they will take money for you. SO what the US government is just as bad with that. They will tax you a fuckload for everything. You are just fucking used to it.
>Go to China and see for yourself
I would if I were chinese.

China could not have achieved the kind of economic success it has under democracy. Ever notice that no countries that have modernized recently have done so under democracy?

That is because democracies are incapable of accepting short term pain for long term gain and that prevents them from making many of the right investments that are necessary.

>>15887543
huh? Kuomintang ruled China for a few decades then got stomped by the CCP after ww2, and even during their rule it was only mostly southern China as the entire country was fractured

Their hegemony relies on the expansion of soft power and informal sanction, but they keep an iron hand on the instruments that they use to impose this. In a global environment where its rivals can't even force their private corporations to follow the law and half the laws are written by something like ALEC China is basically able to bitch slap everyone at its leisure.

Moved toward more capitalistic economy while simultaneously stealing the world's IP to reduce engineering and development costs by 90%.

>>15878634
Those engineers and scientists are mostly bullshit. Ducking Hack Ms was outed as an absolute retard in his meeting with Elon. These fucks get there by throwing as many civilian bodies into the fire as necessary. They spy on US and steal technology. They bribe corrupt individuals at the levers of power. Fuck chinks forever.

>>15878474
overpopulation that is willing to work 80 hour weeks for little pay

>>15878634
Those engineers and scientists are mostly bullshit. Fucking Jack Ma was outed as an absolute retard in his meeting with Elon. These fucks move forward by throwing as many civilian bodies into the fire as necessary. They spy on US and steal technology. They bribe corrupt individuals at the levers of power. Fuck chinks forever.

>>15878634

>Chinese science
>trustworthy

No. Their education system focuses too heavily on rote memorization and penalizes higher level thinking. Their university system is garbage. Education is basically the main leg up that we have on the Chinese.

>>15878474
Slave labour and we let them

>>15888425
>>15888459
>>15888513
>TFW millions of dissidents are literally locked away or have their organs harvested in China and you are so deranged you think a few examples of left wing kikery are anywhere near the same thing.

>>15889538

Don't worry. They'll get to taste it first hand soon and discover that the "libruls" they've been bitching about weren't actually the tyrants they were told by Fox News.

>>15889538
>>15889621
>TFW millions of dissidents are literally locked away or have their organs harvested in China
Read what I said don't talk shit about the government.
>you are so deranged you think a few examples of left wing kikery are anywhere near the same thing.
Did you not read what I fucking said you dumb faggot? here
THEY
ARE
PUTTING
WHITE
PEOPLE
IN
JAIL
FOR
NOTHING
BUT
THOUGHT
CRIMES

PEOPLE ARE BEING PUT INTO JAIL FOR THOUGHT CRIMES. LOCKING THEM AWAY

SOME
HAVE
KILLED
THEMSELVES
BECAUSE
THERE
LIVES
ARE
RUINED

> have their organs harvested in China
Just like how in Syria Assad was gassing and killing people for fun? KILL YOURSELF.

>>15878879
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese
>amerilards are too fat to waddle out of their apartments to save a woman being stabbed to death
kek

>>15889523
compared to the US its light years ahead.

>>15890582

Nah. I personally know people who taught at the high school and university level there. Chinese college is a fucking joke.

>>15890582
That's why the Chinese keep desperately trying to get a USA education lmao

>>15880560
the shadowfork doesn't fight for the interests of the average westerner though. Current China is mostly their doing. I once saw east vs. west since ww2 ended described here as an A/B test to see which method of enslavement people responded to better. think that's pretty accurate.

>>15878474
1) They were allow entry to the WTO
2) USA biz owners started outsourcing manufacturing and the middle class.

>>15890025
Okay, now I know you're a schizo poster.
Show me one case of a white guy who got convicted for posting political opinions online in the US. There are none.
You are confusing less than half a dozen cases of abuse of the US Jewdicial system with wide scale systematic monitoring and suppression of political opponents.
There are at least thousands of people in China locked up permanently or killed for thought crime. And yeah, organ harvesting is a real thing, not just some CIA gayop. Look at the organ waiting times in China versus everywhere else.
In China, something like TDS cannot exist and never will exist. Yes it sucks that you get harassed by rich jews in the US if you dare go against the narrative, but people on the side of the truth are still able to fight back in many ways that people in China cannot even dream of.
t. NRx-ish guy who's worked in China for a very long time

>>15889621
>Muh Fox News
>Muh kosher sandwich
KYS, human garbage. Everybody can tell you're not from around here. Let the grownups talk.

>>15878812
>China was never African tier poor
you're right that China had a long history of civilization that Africa cannot match, but saying that they were never as poor as Africa is not true. they were even below Africa's level at some points under Mao. China is the only country to have ever had a smaller per capita GDP after the industrial revolution than they did 500 years earlier. imagine people with electricity and factories producing less than medieval peasants; that's how industrious chinese were historically, and it's also how badly Mao fucked up. That prosperous history, really the character of chinese civilization, is part of the reason that all China had to do was stop having Mao as a leader to rapidly advance beyond sub-Africa-tier poverty.

>>15891125
Based sparrow poster. I’m saving your image

>>15878558
this state capitalism

>>15891005
both are true lol. what do you call the US prison system? The elite harvest just as much organs as the chinese. they're just way more media savvy and less overt about it. Bradley Manning is a famous example. got his dick chopped off and life ruined forever for exposing blatant war crimes. FISA courts, gitmo, blacksites come off it. Even the officially declassified stuff like MK Ultra and the syphilis experiments are at least on China's level. just with a glossy sheen.

>>15878474
It's pretty easy. They work hard, long hours, efficiently, for shitty wages (around $2.50 an hour). The chineese worker is the ultima cuck, or wage slave. He thinks he is worker for the greatness of China, when in fact, he just enrich his billionaire.

>>15878474
Monopolising rare earth metals.

>>15889523
>Muh memorization bad
China doesnt want all their workers super-geniuses that think outside of the box they want efficient workers. it's easier to manage a project with people that will listen to everything and do it quicker than some faggot who thinks he is wasting his super IQ

>>15881928
The copying is used to catch up you fucking momo. See the japanese when all they used to do is copy. Once they reach our levels of understanding tech, they're gonna blow us out of hte water

>>15879113
thank you my friend are wisdom

china is doomed due to demographics decline

>>15891005
> convicted for posting political opinions online in the US
I just fucking did you stupid fuckhead. I gave many examples one just recently. IF you want to go look recently go look at Cville car crash. They didn't give a single fuck about any information related ot what was going on. Instead they looked at his fucking phone and saw that he had posted a fucking boomer tier image of some boomer hitting a group of antifa blocking the road.
>wide scale systematic monitoring and suppression of political opponents.
holy fuck man if you think white nationalist are not being suppressed you are fucking idiotic. They have been having hearing non-stop on supposed white nationalists being terrorist. You are a fucking idiot.
>There are at least thousands of people in China locked up permanently or killed for thought crime.
If it is against the state I just fucking said thats true. There are countless WN locked up specifically RAM was locked up for a long ass time many people defending themselves against antifa are locked up. While antifa are all let goes thre is massive corruption and the US constitution doesnt fucking matter and hasn't since even before the patriot act.

>>15879736
>1 post
m8 I sure as fuck don't believe instead I believe all the youtubers living very well in china.