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rape her and establish dominace

>>15878030
It's over for marriagecels

she's probably cheating. start spying on her, lawyer up, prepare for divorce. don't talk to her anymore don't give away anything. this is war now

Tell her she signed a contract with you and that breaking contracts is a bad example for your children. If she breaks the contract, you liquidate what you can, move everything to crypto and you escape to a different country without telling anyone

>>15878074
Based anon of truth

That 50% hit is the price of doing business. Tear off that bandaid and let it be a hard lesson in future relationships that you can live together, and whatever but don't get married. Ever.

>>15878030

Ask why in a non-hostile manner

>>15878074
No cheating. Smallest kid is 5 months. She is upset about me being lazy, not taking care of business and house. Also lately Ive split mine and her economy so she is mad about that as well. She hates bitcoin.

But she is serious. She isnt trying just to push me to change. When she says sometjing, she means it. She also said she told her mother about it. So shes probably been thinking it for a while.

Liquid everything and put it in crypto and threaten to burn the address

>>15878112
Havent talked about her since she told me earlier today. I need a game plan. I still love her. Im not in-love, but its been 15 years. I also dont wanna leave my kids. They need a father there.

>>15878074

1000% true. Bitches only break it off once there’s a new cock in the picture.

Pay a private investigator to follow her around, put cameras in your house and don’t tell her if she’s an at home mom etc.

Buy a second phone and link it to yours with a GPS app, stash it in her car somewhere when you go to work.

She’s fucking around, getting proof will save you TENS OF THOUSANDS possible HUNDRED of thousands of dollars.

>>15878140
See image. She isnt a roastie.

>>15878118
Im stupid, but not this stupid.

>>15878135
cry and-tell her you will change or flee to mexico. would she take you back?

>>15878116
>>15878112
Women don't know what they want. Every failed relationship is a male failure, much like the fucking Dog Whisperer: all women require to be dominated. And somehow you let that slip from her.

>>15878030
serves you right to fall for the woman niggerjew tricks

>>15878116

Niece bro. Women don’t break it off unless there is at least a guy they WANT to persue, 99% of the time they’re already fucking.

Women are abhorrently sexual creatures. It’s such a joke that men are perceived as the disgusting over-sexualized gende, women are whores.

>>15878154
I wont cry. We have a friend couple and the guy cried his ass off when his wife said she wanted a divorce. The cunt’s been semi-cheating behind his back and wants out. She decided to stay. He is a pussy now. And his wife shill wants to leave him. I know because my wife and his are best friends. Crying is giving her leverage.

>>15878116
this is 100% over and i'm willing to bet she is cheating on you. if you live in a no fault state it does not matter, but otherwise i'd look through her phone/bills, put a VAR in her car or get a private detective.

prepare for divorce, get your ducks in a row. always hide your hand. and always remember that is not your wife you used to know, so dont trust her one second anymore. sorry it has to be that way dude

greetings from europe
your friendly austrian lawyer

>>15878116
She probably feels that she's investing more in the relationship than you are. (or she's cheating) So if it's the first reason, the communication in the relationship is just crap, that's both her and your fault. You both are obviously not on the same level of thinking and somewhere along the line of your relationship you both started having different views. Since you said you invested in bitcoin, you might raise a few eyebrows in that you don't trust her, which for her would mean that she would lose trust in you. Communication is very important in relationships. You can NOT have 2 different views on life within one, it's impossible to keep that going.

>>15878159
Again, see image. My wife is acually not a hoe. Kid is fucking 5 months old. She literally feeds and sleeps with the kid whole time right now. I think she is just tired of my shit.

Just move on. She wants you to care so dont. Have new kids get a new wife. Perks of being male.

>>15878176
It's ok to cry anon, we're just human after all. Just don't use crying as manipulation like that anon suggested. That's just being a sociopath.

>>15878177
>>15878201
Jesus christ guys, you guys don't even know half of the story and just assume she's cheating. How do you expect to even have a life with this little trust in people. You guys are the same people that whine about not being loved. Way2hypocrit your life and destroy others as well.

>>15878177
There wont be a divorce. We arent married. Assets are allready split.
Kids are the problem. I dont wanna lose them and see them every other week.

>>15878179
I think you are kinda right here. We are not on the same level and communication could be better.

>>15878179
>>15878210
>>15878235

This is bait.

>>15878235
lots of experience dude. its good to be trusting but as soon as she comes up with something ridiculous like having to separate with a 5 month old child... you have to question something

DNA the kids btw

Im unsure about how to go about this without losing the leverage in the relationshit. Because right now, she has the upper hand as she said she wants separation first. I can call her bluff and lose it all. Or I can play along and «change». In which case she keeps the leverage and I become the bitch in the relationship.

>>15878116
You gigantic fucking retard, even if she isn’t objectively cheating you need to make sure and investigate if she is, especially if you live in a fault state.

>>15878148
Different ways to see it, this is my take.
Once you've prepared your finances and made it extremely difficult for her/the state to confiscate them, your kids are the most important consideration. You need to preserve an honest relationship with them and your ability to provide them stability and guidance. After you figure out why she's divorcing you, you'll want to frame negotiations around the logistics of providing for your kids. Assuming she loves them, this is the best place from which to negotiate because it will be easier to convince her not to fuck with you and your finances if you can get her to understand that it's in the best interest of the children.
Also, get a lawyer, spy on her text messages/email/social media because she is cheating on you even if you don't believe it.

>>15878270
The one thing i've noticed on being on 4chan for my entire life is that 4chan used to be the voice that was ahead of mainstream media. Now that you newfags joined the party, you guys should know that these boards' opinions change. Yeah we used to be women hating faggots a few years back, but we've moved on, just like the mainstream will follow what we were 10 years ago like they always do. So just expect mainstream media to be extremely right wing in a couple of years. You newfags are just falling behind on the oldfags here.

>>15878030
Dude - don't think of it as whether or not she is a roastie.

You have to hedge your bets and be rational about your strategy.

Women are emotional creatures. You should approach her as such. Write a poem or some shit (women love those) and just admit that you were lazy, and come up with a good reason behind why you are, and that you are going to change.

Do this in a public place, some fancy restaurant, so it doesn't get outta hand (people won't lash out in public, normally). Then fuck her like it was your honeymoon, and change your habits. See if this changes her behavior towards you. If it doesn't she is using it a a veiled excuse, and is probably fucking some other dude.

Even if you think that she isn't cheating, I would still hire a PI and make sure. I would also liquidate assets and keep it hidden.

Don't let your emotions get to you - I know it's hard, but it will help you make better decisions.

>>15878298
Youre a gigantic moron if you take that website seriously, and /ppl/ already decided anything above 10% is roastie tier, you fucking tourist.

Neck yourself or make sure nothing is shifty behind your back. Too many brainlets say “not muh wife” and most of them never saw the blindside of their wife pursuing other men. Women are meticulous in social behavioral etiquette, men are oblivious. You are not higher than 150 IQ so stop pretending that your wife wouldn’t do that, millions of men before you have made the same mistake. 1 in 10 babies are not biologically the father and never get found out.

I fucking hate obtuse normalfags, just fucking neck yourself.

>>15878291
Women do ridiculous things in their own way, just like we do them as well. DNA'ing the children is always good, but sometimes it's just not as big of a nessesity.

>>15878303
This creates too big of a gap within trust in a relationship that could be salvaged. These things are pretty complex if there are kids involved, so closing all doors and being stubborn is just creating a bigger gap while maybe a simple conversation can solve all this shit and no ruin OP's life.

>>15878325
The only sane post in this entire thread.

not married? holy shit
DNA TEST THE KIDS BRAH

dont listen do this faggot above me he wants you to do the pick me dance. you're better than that

It's possible she's suffering from post partum depression. Women are irrational on a good day, with post partum, she's probably quite nuts at the moment.

>>15878298
Family law attorney.
Not married, kids.
Get kids have them stay with you. Change locks. She will need to get lawyer to see them by that time you will have established "custodial" environment. She will need to pay you for support and ask court for parenting time.

>>15878376
The emotions she feels are still valid, because a woman’s emotions make or break the relationship. They are likely to have been subconscious for some time.

>>15878030
bruh this test is too long who has time to answer all these questions for a potential roastie?

>>15878399
Facebook stalking incels that don't even talk to women.

>>15878116
I once had a “separated” girl eat my asshole while her husband wasn’t out of the picture yet, enjoy getting cucked she doesn’t find you attractive anymore

>>15878380
Not happening. She is a great mother. I want to avoid separation all togather.

I understand that there are alot of new guys, trolls and other here. But also people who had been here for 10 years and have certain life experiance. Reason im asking.

The people wondering, kids are mine. We got both thru IVF.

I need help in figuring out how to call her bluff if its a bluff.

>>15878030

>>15878116
bro, its too late.
not salvageable.
been there, better for it.

my advice:
dont give in to any of her demands no matter what
dont try repair it
exit relationship
work on yourself
dont be such a lazy shit

if you do all that you may salvage it, but tht isnt the point

And Im Pretty sure she is bliffing to get me to «change»

>>15878437
Make up some bullshit reason you have been slacking lately, relative died some time ago? Maybe you didn't even tell her but the relative was big in your childhood. Seems like a good cause for mild depression, seems like you could thank her for snapping you back to the present and being given an opportunity to change.


If she still doesn't take you back, she's gone, don't fall to the sink cost fallacy

POST ROASTIE CALCULATOR PLEASE! I WANT TO CALCULATE MY IMAGINARY ROAST

>>15878116
>She hates bitcoin.
She is a typical dumb woman. You can explain them what bitcoin is but you can not understand bitcoin for them.
>>15878148
she is cheating

>>15878437
she is not bluffing dude
keep your dignity, let her go, try to stay friendly for the kids but otherwise keep contact to a minimum. be the best father you could possibly be and don't talk badly about their mother.

then watch her come back to you, a respectable and responsible business owner, after she's had enough strange cock. then you get to discard her.

>>15878437
Stop playing games on bluffing / threatening and putting ultimatums. Just grab a bottle of wine and start drinking and talking with eachother. Have one of your siblings or her siblings look out for the kids for a weekend and rent a cabin in the woods or something and talk about everything that's on both of your minds. Tell her why you invested in bitcoin or why you seperated your finances from her (probably because you got brainwashed into not trusting her because of these boards) and ask her why she wants to split up, down to the detail.

It's the least you could do for your children, but most importantly for eachother and for yourselves.

>>15878155

blablabla

>>15878030
>business together
You fucked up. What kind of business tho?

There's about a 100% chance she's fucked at LEAST one other guy behind your back. This is just how women operate.

>>15878528

who cares. that guy is probably some blatant sociopath anyway. so fuck him.

>>15878516
Decent advice. «For the kids» part got me. I might soften up. For the kids. We’ll see.

Im not gonna talk to her for couple of days. I need to cool off and think rationaly.

Thanks for the thread guys. I helps to talk about it

>>15878476
http://roastie.club

>>15878148
We fucking warned you, you stupid faggot. All women are roasties

>>15878561
And the obtuse trifle on.

>>15878390
No they're not real in a rational sense. They may have roots in valid concerns, but hormonal issues related to post partum can make her literally non-sensical and crazy. Makes her unable to think things through clearly, which is challenging for most women anyway.

Get rid of her. Seems like she made her mind up. Better let her leave and split the time with the kids.
Say you decide to go to therapy or talk it out, or you do (((change))) then everything is fine for a while. Until your bitcoin/crypto investments pay off. For an example let’s say you got 1 million over a few days with btc. if she knows about your new wealth and bitcoins or you tell her or whatever, she knows what wealth you have. She will leave you in heartbeat and try and get half of it. 100%
Unless you can just keep it a secret forever, but if you do that one day you will slip up and she’ll leave then too for lying and to get the money

>>15878195
You stupid fag. How many dicks had your wife taken before you? More than one? Shes a hoe. Of course she cares about her child. That's the one thing women can ever truly love.

That feeling of love you had toward her, she never felt it for. She feels it for her child regardless of who the father is.

>>15878602
yeah, this is not going to end well for him. but we all learn best from our own mistakes, hopefully

5 months kid? Go to a therapist, it might be post partum depression or psychosis or something around that. No mother instictively would wager loosing support from her partner at a time when her kid is so vulnerable, divorces happen when kids are 7-8 and can in emergency fend for themselves.

>>15878148
>guys I filled out an online survey and it told me my wife isn't cheating on me

are you really this stupid? If so she deserves to take you for everything you're worth.

>>15878319
Your a newfag and delusional.

>>15878630
you never heard of mothers leaving their own children to run off with another dude?

>>15878561
Good, if that gets to you it means you're not a sociopath. Take some time off talking to her if you really need to, just don't do it passive aggressively. These types of games escalate way too quickly into a living nightmare, avoid this at all costs. They also create wounds that can never be healed, not just with you and her but your kids aswell. None of you 4 will be able to trust people in the future and will be playing mind games for the rest of your lives.

And if she was cheating on you, you can always join the incel club here, the echo chamber is always open for all men.

>>15878030
>Let me guess, no faith in the home?
Thank God my wife is a God fearing stay at home wife, i dont know how these atheists dont kill each other.

No morals.
No faith.
Its all about their needs.

Find Jesus

>>15878116
Find out what exactly she has in mind, are you both gonna have the business together after you have divorced? will she buy you out of the house? of the business?
Find out exactly what you are looking at, and then decide if that sounds better than status quo.

>>15878353
>ask for advice
>ignore everything unless you agree with it

>>15878116
You actually deserve to be divorce-raped.

>>15878116
If she isn't cheating (unlikely) she already has someone else picked out

>>15878030
If it seems sudden or “out of nowhere” that she wants a separation then she has been seeing someone else. If you’ve been arguing for years than I would try to talk it out and figure out why she is truly unhappy.

Since I am a betting man I would put $1000 that she seeing someone else.

>>15878116
>No cheating.
That's what she told you bro.

>>15878195
>Kid is fucking 5 months old.
She might be having post-partum depression. Take her to a therapist.

Also do a paternity test just to be sure.

>>15878630
This anon is right. OP's story is really odd. Either she found another guy or she's having post-partum depression. Or maybe the baby isn't OP's.
It's unlikely that a woman would renounce her partner's support while raising a 5 month baby.

>>15878763
I bet $10 on trust issues
$5 on trust issues caused by OP by lurking these boards
$3 on her (thinking) of cheating
$5 on her not cheating

>>15878814
How can the baby not be his if it was done with IVF? This would be illegal supported paternity fraud by doctors. A doctor wouldn't risk 10+ years of education for a patient.

>fell for the marriage meme, and the have sex meme
Anon, better liquidate everything right now, and put it into Chainlink. The government will not be able to take away your crypto, but they will take your house and whatever else is tied to fiat.

Go all in Chainlink, and in 5 years you can enjoy your millions.

These hoes ain't loyal, nigguh

>>15878857
>How can the baby not be his if it was done with IVF?
Right, I missed that part. Never mind about the paternity test.

By the way, OP, how old is she? Is she older than 40? If so, she might be entering her perimenopause:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/perimenopause/symptoms-causes/syc-20354666

https://strongmarriagenow.com/perimenopause-hurting-marriage/

>>15878030
Quit your job, don't pay bills live in your car and deliver pizza, this will fuck any vagimony payments.
Meanwhile spent time with the kids away from her and talk to a dr about stress and depression.
Dissolve the company and cancel any credit cards and joint bank accounts.
Go Monk for two years.
Start up business again or go back to study, students don't pay alimony.

>>15878814
don't discount the possibility of her being a malignant personality disordered cunt.

as long as he did not abuse her, her wanting out with a 5 month old is totally insane. i'd never trust her after this, regardless of cause

>>15878030
You post on 4chan, you fucking deserve it ya faggot

>>15878030
OP btfo falling for the marriage meme >>15878159
This. Don’t be a retard. A woman won’t break it off unless there’s another guy waiting in the wings.

>>15878176
>I know because my wife and his are best friends.
And you think she’s not in your wife’s ear egging her on to leave you? Jesus fucking Christ.

>>15878319
>women in our increasingly sexually liberated societies who have access to cock buffets and have 50 counts in their teens will suddenly become trad family-first wives because 4chan did it first
listen to yourself ffs

>>15879074
it’s all going to slowly collapse, the strongest men will live and women will instinctually seek them out

>>15878516
Do not fucking do this or you will lose her 100%

I can’t believe they took Heartiste down, he is needed more than ever

>>15879025
You're doing the same thing ear egging OP to leave her. Why don't you people just leave these people alone and let them figure it out before dropping all your hatered on their shoulders.

>>15879102
Unironically why I’m ok with the anti white male sentiments of our era. Weed out the betas and make us stronger

>>15879149
How old are you and how many women have you been with

Don’t fucking question me on this you fucking bluepill I’m helping OP not ruining his fucking life
t. Chad

>>15879149
OP is the one who took his personal business to 4chan.

>>15879158
>Weed out the betas

>>15879167
>t. Chad
Be honest, do you even have kids?

>>15879177
ok purplefag.
go see where you feminist agenda gets you in 20 years when your blacked wife is fucking some korean dude with a big dick and you're losing half your money for it.

>>15879177
Why would I have kids in 2019 America

>>15879167
age 29, had sex with 42 women (actual sex, no blowjob or halfway)

Have had sex with women that had a bf.
Have had sex with a black woman while a black man was jerking off to us fucking.

5'8 height, average dick, average looks.

Lived together with 3 women.
Had 4 long term relationships.

My father was divorce raped by his ex-wife and drank himself to death.

Was raised by a single mother who stole my dad's inheritance from me.

Father cheated on my mother and left 2 year old me and took all their possesions with him.

Seen women sueing men for all they've got on 2 other occasions outside of this, pretty close to my life.

Have also seen women not sueing men, but just leave without a penny.

Seen the worst side of women and the worst side of men. People are ruthless.

So yes, I know what the fuck I'm talking about """"chad""""

>>15879214
you're not a Chad and you're not in the position to give advice to OP.

>>15879315
not to defend the other guy but it sounds like you have an extremely dysfunctional relationship life and deep-rooted trust issues as a result of your experiences

>>15879167
What I'm trying to do """chad""" is to make sure OP doesn't escalate shit to a ripped apart family so that his kids don't end up not being able to trust anyone and that stuff can be resolved by open communication instead of hatered.

>>15879025
THIS! & this again!

>>15879149
It's a 18+ board

>>15879361
Yes I'm fully aware of this and it's a shitty way to live. Parents getting a divorce brings way more issues than doing everything you can to not get cucked (which will increase the chance of you getting cucked anyways)

>>15879025
>>I know because my wife and his are best friends.
>And you think she’s not in your wife’s ear egging her on to leave you? Jesus fucking Christ.
This makes sense, OP. Your wife's friend is single and bitter, so she's now trying to convince your wife to leave you. I've seen this over and over.

>>15879445
his wife's friend is also apparently a known cheater, which means his wife is totally ok with that

>>15879375
>stuff can be resolved by open communication instead of hatred
got it, you’re a pozzed retard who thinks women respond best to (((open communication)))

>>15879338
>gotta have kids with a roastie to be a Chad so you end up in OP’s position
if anything he’s more of a Chad than you simply for not falling for that meme

>>15879555
Well obviously, you can't have that communication with women at all, because you have dogmatic views on women before you even talk to them. You can't experience open communication if you aren't open about your views yourself. If you're like this to women, they'll be the same to you. If you have open communication, you'll know if a woman doesn't find you attractive, so you'll know for sure she will cheat on you, no point even starting a relationship if that's the case. Women don't all of a sudden start cheating on their husbands / bfs. You can see it from miles away if you just talk with eachother honestly about views / goals on life.

>>15878176
Her best friend is a cheater? Titanic red flag.
Get a DNA test.

>>15878030

say yes, if you say no you will unironically get divorce, if you say yes and that you were thinking about the same she will wonder what the fuck you have in your sleeve, holy shit the absolute state of marrycels

>>15878154

Holy shit this fucking little devil, imagine being so fucking evil as this dude holy cow

>>15879632
>If you're like this to women, they'll be the same to you.
I mean this very seriously: get the fuck off this board and go back to r*ddit. You do not belong here. You do not know what the fuck you’re talking about and your dumpster fire of a personal life proves it. You deserve to suffer for having the audacity to spew this faggot bullshit as though it remotely reflects reality.
You do not communicate openly with women. You do not tell them your worries or fears. You do not talk about whether she finds you attractive. You do not listen to or act on her fucking emotional blathering as though it even approaches logical thought.
How do you not understand that you are supposed to be above her and when you communicate openly as though you are equals you lower yourself to her level which instinctively confuses and repels her. How do you not understand that she WANTS you to tell her what to fucking do??
Read basic evolutionary biology, read game theory, read attraction theory, read Heartiste if you can find it in some archive, and fuck off, you fucking cancer

>>15878030
Take your kids out of the country and threaten to not bring them back unless she gives 100% of all your demands

>>15878116
>She is upset about me being lazy, not taking care of business and house.
Sounds like she is in the right to want to split from you. You sound terrible.

>>15879315

The absolute state of this currycel lmaoooo

OP watch the movie "Blue Valentine" and then make you wife watch it and see her reaction

>>15879730
Imagine not even making that connection. The wife’s best friend is fucking whoring around. I feel so bad for these oblivious dudes
Where in the flying fuck does OP think the wife got the idea to leave him from?

>>15879764
Have read:

>The red queen
>Sperm wars
>The selfish gene

Aka the david deangelo era of PUA bullshit. This board has always been about open communication, not applying that to your actual life and just whining about it here, makes me question: what the fuck are YOU doing here?

>>15878116
Echoing what the other anons have said. She wouldn't be breaking things off with you if she hasn't psychologically moved on from you. This 100% means she has already found someone else who she perceives to be better (even if he's a total loser - women are also terrible at making rational decisions). This is her hypergamous nature. It's happened to me multiple times bro you're not alone.

>roastie says she needs a break to get her head straight
>within 2 weeks she's already in a relationship with another guy. Obviously this was all pre planned

As the other anons have said, start spying on her, collecting video, text message evidence. Lawyer up. Divorce is coming and you're not going to be able to stop it. Her mind is already made up.

>>15878319
>i
>my
you never understood the point of anonymous board, and adopted values out of following the crowd, only a smaller crowd
not only that, you mistook presentation for content, and in doing so misunderstood the underlying truth
woman hating is not a cause (that would be circular logic), but the manifestation of exposure to certain truths about women in young men who lack affection - an emotional and immature reaction
smart anons lose the hate and keep the truth
dumb anons throw the baby out with the bathwater so they can pat themselves on the back for having grown out of that phase, failing to understand this is just trading one emotional outburst for another emotional outburst
love women, but understand how they work, and act accordingly to maximise your joint happiness

>>15879907
If I'd be following the crowd, I would be telling OP to leave his wife. No I'm going against the larger crowd here by telling him to talk to her about it. You seem to be doing the same, so I'm not sure wtf ur on about. I agree with all your points.

>>15879421
In a way it’s almost like proving that you can cuck others to make up for insecurities in life. Better way to live is forgive others for being shitty and trying to move on. I don’t think it’s up to us to fix others.

When I read that you convinced both children through IVF, I was utterly disgusted. If the bitch can't give you children natural, why did you marry her? She was the complete opposite of creme dela creme, she was scum Dela scum and you being an impotent bastard still married her. By doing so you devalued yourself brought her value up. To her you were just a stepping stone. She has children, a home, and wealth now, something she could never have gain without you. She's either preparing to cut her loss and dip with her hard earn fortune or she's just checking you to see how much control she has over you after two kids. This is a power move. How are you lazy if you own a business and are raising two kids with her? Call her bluff and say that if a divorce is what she wants, a divorce is what she'll get. Tell her that you love her and sometime that means setting a bitch free. Secure the bag before doing so. I promise you the bitch won't handle that pressure. Don't forget that men age like wine and women like milk. We grow sweeter and more desirable while they grow sour. I'm 25 and I've divorced a bitch already. Same exact situation as you, she said she want a divorce. I calmed her down and divorced that hoe when she least expected it. She begs me to come back now. My friend you're a simp, don't be.

>>15879962
>just talk to her about it OP, you can work everything out
wew lad you are one bluepilled piece of shit

>>15879890
well not exactly but who knows. coin flip is my guess here... maybe she, has maybe she hasn't. But anyhow, what's the big difference in that case?

in my reading OP fucked up for prob. being not supportiv or some shit. I mean we literally have it right here:
> She is upset about me being lazy, not taking care of business and house

>>15880011
Yes, that's exactly what I was doing, but thank god I haven't made a big mistake yet that I can't recoup from.

If you have anons like this:
>>15880015

They already made the big decisions where they can't recoup from. And therefor forever closing their doors for trusting others.

>>15880034
Things have to be either black or white in your life don't they?

You don't have to be a naive pussy, nor a unempathic sociopath. There's a middle ground in life too.

Take your bets gentlemen!

>OP actually fucked up somehow with this lazy story she told him
>the baby isn't his

Paternity test your kids anyway, OP

>>15880054
>what's the difference

It means you need to stop jacking off and get prepared for the shitstorm that's coming your way you simp. The law is not on your side. Start liquidating your assets and move as much as you can into bitcoin and other unconfiscatable cryptos, as the other anons have said, if you don't live in a no fault state start collecting evidence or hire a PI.

Stop sitting on your arse expecting things to work themselves out because they won't. If she has asked for a separation you are already past the point of no return - understand women do not think the same way as men and she would not be doing this if she hasn't already found someone someone else. If you act now you're going to potentially save yourself hundreds of thousands of dollars and losing custody of your children.

>>15880061
That is vindictive and stooping down to her level to gain the upper-hand. It’s mostly ego-driven, the “you can’t leave me, I leave you” mindset. I only know because I’ve gone through it all, and introspection helps to see what part you can change and what part you can’t. Nowadays I try to think of my repercussions for others, although they might not ever do the same for me, to avoid fucking whores in relationships. They’ll fuck others, and it’s not my problem. My conscious will stay clean, and staying away from women while working on myself in general has improved my morale/outlook on life significantly.

>>15878030
social security better provider she prolly has calculated, you slack XD

>>15878030
>business togather
Oof. Good luck anon.

>>15880129
Yeah, I agree with everything you've said. Once you've made vindicitive decisions (big ones) already, it's hard to go back because your conscious is smeared with dirt already, that's when dogmatic and stubborn views on life get solidified.

>>15880119
> understand women do not think the same way as men and she would not be doing this if she hasn't already found someone someone else.
that's not even close to how it's working, bro.
t. rl_experience ... also how do you think single mothers come into existence?

>>15880179
>once you start noticing things about women then you start to understand their true nature. This is bad.
>it's much better to remain a bluepilled simp so they can keep taking advantage of you.

Might I recommend reddit kind sir?

>>15878116
Shes 100% cheating. Either way she doesnt need you anymore she will take your child support you are the monetary income to support her.

>>15878030
Actually OP watch AMS. Women sometimes leave to test your resolve. You've probably been too much of a bitch. Marital satisfaction is based on sexual desire. She doesnt want to fuck you
AMS youtube
Blackpillscience reddit

>>15880179
There is nothing we can’t recover from, our bodies are temporary anyway. Not sure what your religious beliefs are but my personal belief is that our bad karma and good karma transcends the physical. Eventually we experience all sides of the equation, and gain understanding. Recovery from those dogmatic views is a long road, but every journey begins with a single step.

>>15880219
blue-pilled / red-pilled, jesus christ you're making me cringe. You're falling behind.

>>15880195

> ... also how do you think single mothers come into existence?

They either start fucking someone else who then doesn't want to stay with them because they have a kid, or they have the kid in the first place with a nigger who obviously isn't staying around. Some end up having kids through one night stands but that clearly doesn't apply to OP

You can’t even spell together, you deserve this

>>15880219
He’s not saying that being unaware is the right path, it’s being aware and yet being able to take the high road while staying above the toxic actions of others is where the true difficulty lies.

>>15880249
Stop, I was almost with you until now kek. Yeah you can still recover, but if you do, you have to tell people you were wrong about your decisions. As we know, people aren't likely to do that because of their ego's.

Also: No religious beliefs as you might've noticed.

>>15880195
I wanted to be a father to my children, but the mother ran away and fucked another man while pregnant. In my life this is one of the most difficult things I’ve had to reconcile, I hope others do not have to go through this pain.

>>15878030
Is this the first time your rrlationship has rrachd this point?

t. marriage counselor

>>15880237
hahahahahaha
black dude (!) making fucking youtube videos ... hahahaha ... that fucking camera angle ... shit I can't even watch for 5 sec straight: what a cringefest ... bro I'm totaly alpha t.trust me
hahahaha

>>15880303

Well I'm glad unlike other anons you pushed through, most men break and close themselves off forever after this kind of shit.

>>15880288
No worries, just a different perspective is all. Perhaps it’s my way of coping, just have to continue introspection and ultimately there may never be answers to “why” but accept that it just “is”. Take care brother, hope you find your inner peace.

jesus fuck this thread is still going?
OP, lawyer up and get that cunt out of your life. good luck!

>>15878116
If she's not cheating on you, she's feeling unappreciated. So appreciate her, dipshit. Buy her a pair of earrings or a necklace and say you think it goes nice with some dress. Tell her that you're gonna go take her out to dinner.

>>15878030
>in a nice way
Found your problem.

>>15880320
Control your BBC lust retard

>>15880345
No judgement from my side bro. We all cope in different ways. Ignoring all religious beliefs though and purely focussing on coping: acceptance is the hardest one, closing yourself off is the easiest but has the worst outcome eventually. You can't ever find inner peace if you closed all doors to intimacy. Take care yourself as well anon, I wish you and OP a good life.

>>15880061
You seem like you have trouble accepting your reality. This women doesn't want you, let her go and keep your wealth. You think you're going to be happy with someone who has decided they don't want you? If it's the kids you're worried about, then just know their future is not in you're hands; you are not God. They need you for guidance and financial support which you can still provide IF YOU ACCEPT YOU'RE REALITY, HIDE YOUR MONEY, AND MOVE ON. She's in her 40s with two kids, one fresh out the oven. She will not find anyone else. Help her pack up and send her to her mother's along with the kids. Take some time to yourself and enjoy life. Find a young thing to play with and wait for her to call back. The number one thing is don't be nasty to her.

>>15878030
Cook islands trust. Look it up, save yourself. Don't let some cunt take all your shit.

Put your money into unknown amounts of monero

to wrap it up: OP's agenda is pretty straight forward:

(a) Either way it goes: MAN THE FUCK UP! You've got two children - being a lazy cunt is not a fucking an option. improve yourself ffs.
(b) talk it out: Dude, you've been together for 15 years; that's about half of your reproductive life time. how many shots you think you have?!? Take a breath and find out, what options are still on the table.

(c) lawyer up in case things get ugly.

and (d), in general, consider you input! I mean it! 95% of this is satire ... at best ... this whole bougs is literally made up by loosers crafting youtube videos about their retarded bro-since. you wanna be a slave to that?
that being said, I'm out

>>15880357
You're a fucking retard, if you had any experience with women you'd know that no woman will ask for a divorce with a 5 month old baby if she feels unappreciated

>>15880422
If OP finds a young thing and wait for her to call back, he's already playing stupid manipulative mind games already and being nasty.

Same thing if she would fuck some guy. It feels the same for her if he "loves" a woman for 1 night.

It hurts men to see their wife get "fucked" by a random guy. But it also hurts women to "share" a night with a woman that's not her. They think of it in a way that he and the woman had an intimate moment with another woman. Regardless if it was just for the sex. That's why women don't understand what the fuzz is if they "just had sex" with a random guy, because they think of it in a way that would hurt THEM the least, while it hurts the man the most if it was just "a random guy". For women it hurts the least if it was just "a random girl", it hurts them even more if you didn't even had sex with her but you wanted to but she declined.

>>15880489
Summed up, this is the most informative tl;dr for OP.

THE JURY IS OUT, YOUR WIFE IS FUCKING TRYONE

>>15880518
To sum this up for others, women don’t see sleeping with others as a bad thing from their viewpoint the war men do. For men it’s about loyalty because there’s no guarantee a baby is theirs. For a woman it’s always 100% theirs. Women are more hurt when you emotionally fall for someone else, as they no longer guarantee your resources for their offspring. Men and women love differently.

>>15878030
>>15878116

She might not necessarily be cheating, as all the incels in here will jump to.

You have to get her on board with bitcoin. Sounds like, and I could be wrong but, that’s one of those things that she can tell you’re a fan of but she cannot figure out why. My gf is a little bit of the same way, but she trusts me enough to know that my interest in crypto is not one of those subjects to be fucked with.

So try & get her to come around to that, I bet you’d be surprised at how far that’ll go. But also, maybe make sure once she does have that aha moment, that anything else in your relationship that may have been contributing to the problem as well, is addressed separately. I could see something happening where if you invest enough effort into explaining the bitcoin thing, she actually flips so hard that now she’s giddy about that moreso than your actual relationship - leaving the rest of those “real” problems to lay dormant, until the crypto euphoria eventually wears off. Idk

>>15880731
>autism

>>15878437
Anon as someone pretty much in your shoes a few years back, 15ish years two kids, just walk away. Get yourself into good shape, look after yourself and find someone else. My ex cheated but I actually do blame myself as I seriously fucked up on a holiday, plus i was subconsciously wanting out, three years later she bombards me with messages, subtle (maybe not so subtle) hints she’s free etc and i just tell her to fuck off messaging me. She still does with the usual emotional blackmail crap. She’s dating some absolute beta too.

Look after number one. Your wife most likely has someone lined up but hasn’t done the dirty yet by the sounds if it, your only option is to follow through. It’ll be rough the next few weeks but believe me there’s lots of other women out there who are perhaps more compatible to you. Cut the business, cut the house, you ain’t winning anything off her with YOUR kids. Be grateful you’ve got them and procreated. The modern world is just a different beast to whatever idealistic view of fatherhood you had, you can still be their dad occasionally.

>>15880054
> She is upset about me being lazy, not taking care of business and house
>actually believing the reasons women give for saying they wanna break/divorce/whatever else

boi, watch what women do, dont listen to what they say.

>>15878030
You two need to find god you souless fucks

Hit that dumb bitch over the head with a frying pan

Can someone explain to me why some men are always convinced their wives/gf aren't cheating on them?

It's like these cucks who begin to date bar waitresses, while she fucks the whole bar every night...

OP she is talking to another man minimum. Guaranteed.

My ex pulled a similar thing. Checked her laptop when she was in the shower and she had messages and pics from some other dude. Checked her phone and her WhatsApp was blowing up. It's literally over. Move on and try the best you can for the kids but fuck that bitch

>>15878030
You sound like an abusive piece of shit. Just sayin.

>>15880357
>If she's not cheating on you, she's feeling unappreciated. So appreciate her, dipshit. Buy her a pair of earrings or a necklace and say you think it goes nice with some dress. Tell her that you're gonna go take her out to dinner.

Good advice if you want to make even any lingering attraction (which is none) that she still might have for her husband completely disappear.

>>15878030
Woman says: "I am considering that maybe one day in the future we should consider thinking about perhaps one day being romantic outside our pairbond. If you want."

Male translation: "Someone ejaculated into my mouth without permission today, and I thanked him after swallowing."

>>15881104
>Don't take half of my money and business
>Also don't take my children away
Wow super abusive

God getting married sounds awful, serious guys why couldn’t I just tell a girl “Hey we can have your princess party and we can both wear rings and tell everyone we are married but I’m not signing some ZOG document entitling you to half my shit”? If she disagrees and cries about security can’t I just assume she is a gold digger?

>>15878112
>try to reason with a woman
don't get into a relationship, you would be chewed up and spit out a wreck.

>>15880357
congratulations on the worst post in this thread. you managed to top the other guy above.

OP, listen to the people telling you to get a private dick on the case (find out if she's cheating) and a lawyer on your finances (figure out how a divorce would pan out, how you can prepare for one). once you have confirmation that she's cheating you can initiate the divorce, or if the detective finds nothing you can wait for her to initiate the divorce knowing that you're prepared.

no matter how "lazy" you are in other areas, this is the stuff that demands your FULL attention now. you have a lot to lose.

>>15880820
You're a retard. He should put his kids before himself. His kids ought to be able to grow up with two parents, even if it means they aren't banging every ight. The absolute state of modern morality

>>15878030
short american women

OP, OP, OP

This guy knows what's up: >>15878325

Follow that advice.

Seriously, lots of guys are completely blindsided by cheating. If you're honest with yourself, you DON'T REALLY KNOW whether she's cheating. Or, if she has someone she wants to pursue, and is looking to go after him once you guys split up.

All the cynics on /biz/ claim they KNOW she's cheating. And you claim that you KNOW that she's not. Both of these are based on an unreasonable level of certainty.

This could also be some crazy "get OP to stop being lazy" scheme. Or she could just be expressing frustration with you. Women often don't directly communicate what they want. Half the time they don't even know what they want.

Also,
>5 month kid
Well, duh, man, she's totally exhausted and maybe has post-partum depression. Would you be angry about your laziness

>>15878630
>No mother instictively would wager loosing support from her partner at a time when her kid is so vulnerable, divorces happen when kids are 7-8 and can in emergency fend for themselves.
I'm not saying divorce isn't more LIKELY at those times, but I've seen plenty of couples split up (at the choice of the female) when a kid is an infant (or otherwise very young).

Really sobering to realize most women are like this, even my own mother.

>>15878074
THIS EXACTLY

>>15878030
read this guy's book 10 times and watch his videos. he will explain everything you need to do. READ THE FUCKING BOOK 10 TIMES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ziFfwFHh_8

>>15878030
Wtf is that test. Good questions, but too beneficial. Is that for a western women standard? My absolute roastie ex gf got 25%

>>15881920
He’ll still get custody of them if he doesn’t do something stupid, i have my kids around whenever i like, all summer holidays. A chance to unlearn them the utter nonsense her and her mother have been pumping their heads with. One was bloody expecting me to put their damn clothes on and couldn’t tie their own shoes. After infancy children should be raised by the father.

AHEM

*TING TING TING*

I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE.

>>15878030
She has two kids with you anon. Why are you certain she's not cheating if she obviously doesn't want to keep the family together?
Just make sure you come out the mature one in the end. It's all about keeping the kids sane!!

ALL WOMEN ARE WHORES.

>>15882737
h-hey

>>15882806
BASED

>>15878325
Toppest of keks
This is pasta worthy post
> dude just write her a poem when she starts sucking other men's cocks
Lmfao

>>15882866
Actually some of those questions... Who the fuck would even date some of these girls? Where do you even find those?

>>15878030
i just have flings and fuck girls short term even though its lonely/unfulfilling what i really want is kids and the family life but THIS RIGHT HERE is the reason why. this is what always happens. i hope you at least had a pre-nup OP

>>15878116
sounds like you're a lazy shit that deserves to get left

sounds like she and the kids will be better off without you dragging them down

you ever do anything fun with them as a family, or just browse 4chan and bitch all day?

>>15878298
Start working out, inject testosterone, hire PT, get jacked af, use Cialis and fuck her like a porn star. Ignore her shit, just do it and she will submit.

>>15878116
Sounds like she has good reasons, you sound like a bad deal

OP, divorce her quickly through an amicable agreement, get as much time with the children as you can, and make sure you tell her that you've liquidated all your Cones. Don't start a war, the kids suffer more. Try and stay friendly, that way your kids will suffer less. Find a roastie ten years younger who you fuck but never marry, and never look back

>>15882888
Checked. Don’t let our failures put you off, most marriages still succeed. If you want kids get them. Just be prepared. Luckily you can move on afterwards if you keep yourself in order, women like older guys too.

>>15878116
You need to stop being lazy (you're making it easy for her to want to leave).
Take up a new active hobby like surfing or something that makes you more appealing. Girls are like children they like having something shiny to keep their attention. Don't go mid-life crisis mode, but start caring about your fitness and social life a little more.

Also, SPLITTING your money when you're married is a distasteful thing to do. Bad idea. Tell her you want to make this work. Use emotional appeals. Mention the kids. Don't make it sound like it's her fault because she's a woman and that means she'll take that statement like one. Actively start trying to fix this anon.

Hope you two are Christian, because that makes it so much easier to do this.

Are the replies telling OP to work it out bait or some meme I missed out on?

>>15878625
This is true.

>>15883895
Nah there’s seriously normie newfags here

>>15878094
>you can live together, and whatever but don't get married. Ever.
KEK

>>15878116
>being lazy

honestly its to be expected

>>15885096
What the fuck

>>15878030
she was never your wife, it was just your turn.

>>15878319
My wife left me because I spazzed and shoveled redpolls down her throat (thanks 4chin). I know I should have just shit the duck up and go little by little about da JEWs, but I now believe in good and evil and the Jews are pure evil. Anyways about chans being 10 years ahead of the trends - I’m excited for 1488.

>>15878030
I cannot imagine living in a non-Muslim country where women have rights. My wives' only right to divorce is execution.

>>15885096
Holy fuck.... I need to leave Canada immediately.

>>15878437
>Not happening. She is a great mother.
objectively false. Speaking as someone who has zero attachment to her from a completely outside perspective, your view on her is warped by your attachment to her (which is not bad, but you don’t see this clearly). No good mother would ever get a divorce ESPECIALLY if the children are young. No matter how shitty of a husband you are, if she is threatening it she is putting herself and her desires (unfortunately for you that is fucking other dudes) above her family. She is a terrible person and you need to prepare for a divorce.

Update:

Just talked to her. Asked her the reasons. She is saying Im bad father. Says shes been thinking about us ever since our last kid was born. She told her mother about a month ago. I asked her what the plan is, she says we sell business. I tell her that she cant afford morgage on house by herself. She allready figured out her parents can move with her or she can sell the house. I know she will be fine financially.

(As Im writing this she just texted me that we need, by law, have counciling because we have small kids and that she is making appointment)

Looks like she wants to get this done quickly. She gave me also bullshit reasons like she doesnt like being with me, if we continue being with each other, she will just hate me more.

She acually said nothing about me not taking care of business or house tho. Her focus is that Im a bad dad and that she doesnt want kids to grow up and learning from my behaviour. Also focus on that «we have problems» but when I ask her to tell me what problems, just bullshit answers that she doesnt love me, tgat we dont talk, we are not “like a family”.

Yesterday, I wasnt sure how certaim she was about this. Today, from what I can see, pretty certain.

New thread
>>>15886603

>>15886204
>a non-Muslim country
All lands belong to Allah anon
Some just don’t know it yet

>>15878155

Spoken like a true Chad. These cucks don't understand that women love to be dominated. They want to be tamed and they want to submit. When my gf breaks the rules, her punishment is standing in corner for 30 minutes and thinking about why she did it. She does this willingly. Women only bow to men they respect.

Power vs force Dr. Hawkins
learned a lot from this.

>>15878030
Dude I'm sorry, must suck bro. Not fair on you, women are definitely retarded, they only think emotionally, not logically like us fren. I am so sorry. I hope you can find someone better, you most likely deserve it op. Just remember things can and most definitely will be better. I won't lie it most likely will be hard, i am still with my missus but feel it's slow drifting away. Sometimes I feel it's this market to blame, but it's not op. If we were working away and making nice amounts of money, it would still be the same. Probably worse because we are not around. They just want it all and like immature idiots, they think the grass is better on the other side, in reality it rarely is.

>>15886694
>grass is greener
Sorry drunk af

>>15883483
>most marriages still succeed
Weak bait

>>15878116
Don't listen to the /r9kringe/ replies
Stop being a fucking loser and do more for your family

Do what tony soprano did and go to all the top lawyers in your area so she can't use them.