/biz/ - Business & Finance

>296 posts
OP is a fag

Are here mostly people from usa
Europoor here asking

>>15812454
Bonds are not for Faggots
-Roger Rabbit

>>15812492
You don’t speak English? You’re just a trash immigrant...

>>15812492
I assume so. But exit /smg/ and it’s mostly pajeets.

If you know of a fallacy include it fren, economics is world wide not only a burger thing.
>>15812484
I just wanna make a thread

Jesus what a boring end to the week, only up $117 on my last trade. I will leave it in for the weekend, fucking trash Powell ruining the fun.. volume just vanished when he started talking about shit nobody cares about. Ugh.

I dont know what this economy thing is but we should have as much Wars as possible to properly prepare our troops for the time to eliminate the Chinese off the face of the earth

>>15812499

This uhhh Iranian hacking trump's reelection campaign thing... is it a VIXable event? Seems like... something he's likely to throw a fit over.

Then again, he let them shoot down our drone without consequences.

>>15812527
But then whose tiny fingers will make my phones and video game consoles?

Should I cut my losses for NAKD and put it into LMLP??? 4 dollars lost.

Powell didn't say much, it's like he's avoiding saying anything as if the economy is teetering on the edge.

>>15812554
Think carefully.

>>15812517
Great unemployment numbers saved us. Not that those numbers are real

>>15812517
I was down for most of the week and after a few risky moves gain my loses back and then some.
>>15812527
But if that happens where will I get my Chinese cartoons?

IM MOONING!!!!!!!

>>15812499
>I only date equity men
-Jessica Rabbit

>>15812527
Isn't it already a given that the chinese will rule the world in coming decades? Compare the way the chinese raise their kids to how the kids in Europe/US are raised, compare how the government works, etc etc. China approved the construction of a new airport in 2015 or whatever year it was in ONE WEEK, it would have taken the US years to approve a major project like that.. meanwhile it would never even happen in Europe because we're basically dead already.
Invest in China as soon as shit calms down between Trump and Xi.. or a democrat gets elected, that's my hot tip to all of you.

I dont want that china will be ruling over me

I wasted my entire 2 week vacation jerking off and masturbating

>>15812620
what a disgusting post
Investing in any country besides America is moronic because America is the only country that gives a damn about the shareholders

>>15812681
>wasted my entire 2 week vacation
>jerking off and masturbating
>wasted

>>15812620
>invest in China
>they treat their kids well and no red tape
Lol. They dont treat their kids well at all. I would compare them to sparta. They push them for success, and if the kids fail, fuck em. They work constantly, with low morality and ethics. Theres a whole screencap of the guy who knows mandarin and so has to deal with the Chinese.

The government can approve shit fast because all entities are somewhat controlled by the government. Forgot what it's called. Plus, safety and building standards are virtually non existent. That's why elevators collapse and suck people in to die. The Chinese are not good people. The bug people meme is real. That's not to say there arent exceptions, but 5-10 million good people in a nation of 1.3 billion isnt saying much.
China is getting by on shady, cheap, unethical business, governmental, and societal practices all across the board. A pump and dump of a country, just like all of its history.

>>15812685
This too.

YOU ALL SAID IT WOULD DUMP REEEEEEEE

I'm either going to make a lot of money or ruin myself. I'm at peace with this

>>15812620
Bait
Chinese have no bright future ahead.
Amerixan industry is moving out while publicly avoiding panic. Same shit with oil in iraq war. US is building dependence on wvery front and resource. Water, energy(all types), food, finance, tech etc etc
China is fucked and increasingly unstable.
Short china to Zero

So tired of CVX, gonna dump it finally on Monday when free fees kick in

>>15812706
Based

Anyone heard of XELA ?

New meme stock potential

>>15812620
Chinese people blow torch dogs while they are alive. They are simple function in society that will sell out their mom for some pork. They run iver children and not even blink. People donr even react to public fights and death. They have no future or ability to cooperate and create. They are simple functions

>>15812700
Yeah but now I have to go back to work to jerk off and masturbate

>>15812772
When you get real good you'll be jerking it and thinking about money.

>>15812681
>t.coomer
>>15812620
I would rather have Russia be the economic and militaristic world power.
>>15812706
This guy knows whats up. China is struggling but not the same way the U.S is struggling. China has years of societal problems that instead of addressing they try to cover it up through government manhandling.

And when they ship millions to Africa those Chinese will undoubtedly have a huge culture change and want self governance. Times inthe next 50 years will be interesting.

How'd everyone do today?
+5.96%

>>15812681
what did you jerk to?

>>15812730
no one said that
lol

>>15812790
Fantastic. Was sweating all week. Pic related.

>>15812790
Down almost 7% but still up 10% for the week

>>15812799
thank you mommy su

I really dont want to miss the TRQ moon mission but 90% of my portfolio is NAKD

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do this week? I'm up .66% today, good but undieperforming the indices. Covvied calls comfy, optimistic on AMTD, avvied GEO a little this morning, not a lot else going awn.
This week we're going to the Romano's in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Ansar Allah will soon burn this kuffar establishment to the ground, god willing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU6bDNOIlmw

>>15812797
Interracial gangbangs

>>15812789
>ship millions to Africa
That reminds me of the perfect example of Chinese business! Anyone remember when some Chinese guys were selling fake plastic eggs and rice as food? Why in the world would anyone want to buy and hold something like that? "Invest in China" fucking NO

I wanna invest into the beauty/make up industry

>>15812826
Up 0.29% ($72). Good enough.

>>15812826
>Arab Romano's
>no wine
You done goofed dingdingding bro. DELETE. FIX THIS

>>15812824
>but 90% of my portfolio is NAKD
Less than 0.7% of mine is.

>>15812826
Im up 19% by deciding to be risky. But will reallocate gains to other stonks next week.

>>15812826
+0.92% day
-1.45% week

>>15812544
>But then whose tiny fingers will make my phones and video game consoles?
Companies like Samsung have already closed all their Chinese phone factories
>>15812577
>But if that happens where will I get my Chinese cartoons?
If you support Chinese cartoons then you should support eliminating the authority that restrict its development
>>15812620
People said the same about Germany in late-19th and early-20th century.
And no, it will still take a few years to build a new airport in China, slightly faster than in some other countries but no that much, and for some controversial projects like Xiamen/Qingdao/Sanya's new airport they can still stall for years or even decade before getting approval. That 1 week figure just mean that they completed 52 airports in that given year so it average out to completing 1 airport every week, and no one said when each of them started construction.

>>15812845
Invest in Korea. They'll be fine as long as the US hangs around.

>>15812852
Not gonna make it

>>15812826
Who /degenerate gambler/ here?

>>15812881
Me

>>15812826
got the bull thanks to Clorox,Ameritrade.
Also got my adderall script refilled today after 2 months. probably gonna be saying and doing a lot of things with low inhibition

>>15812881
Here. I've never read a single SEC filing before dumping money in stocks :^)

>>15812554
Good. He's finally learning to keep his foot out of his mouth.

>>15812789
>And when they ship millions to Africa those Chinese will undoubtedly have a huge culture change and want self governance. Times inthe next 50 years will be interesting.
Those Chinese people I know who have went to Africa for work don't really live together or interact with African, and many of them look down on Africa that I believe they will take them as a bad example instead of a good example. There aren't really many matured democracy society with freedom in Africa either.
And why would you believe Africa can change their perception when many of them living in Australia, Canada, Unuted States, Europe didn't?

>>15812740
lmao it's almost in my buy window but I can't blame you. The psychological loss of seeing a loser in your portfolio is real.
>>15812685
APOLOGIZE

If I get reverse splitted I'm gonna an hero

>>15812826
Green day!

>>15812865
>Invest in Korea. They'll be fine as long as the US hangs around.
The United States will be giving the wartime command power back to Seoul in next few years. That might indicate a reduced American presence on the peninsula. And both the current Korean president and the current American president favor downsizing American existence on the peninsula also.

>>15812922
it will reverse split or de-list... those are the only two options

>>15812900
I bet you anything Ms. Moore was slonkin mad benzedrine to stay so skinny and gorgeous. Imagine railing some methedrine with her in the MGM bathroom before talking about Exxon's fundamentals~

>>15812917
Ok I formally apologize to Japan, the Nikkei will go to 40k

>>15812939
It has 5 months to redeem itself, and their silent rule is up Oct. 11 where they will most likely have good news. Gonna hodl atleast until then

>>15812881
Forgot pic

>AYTU

Is it a buy?

>>15812913
>they will change to a more primitive culture
That is not what I ment by having a culture change. I do not know the social structure that will form but it will lead to their wants for self governance.

The further the distance from their home people historically have rapid change in ways they view themselves and the home state. ie every western colony that wanted independence.

>Africans
And to the point of Africans I am afraid that the Chinese have no need for them. Look at what they are doing to the Rohingya, I believe something similar will be forced upon the Africans.

>>15812942
please my heart cant take it
also just watched part of Twinkletoes

What's the consesus about squeezemetrics, dix and gex?

>>15812902
Sometimes I wonder what my cumulated moved money is and how it compares to the average of my age.

>>15812947
Based!
That would be quite something, for Nik to 2X

>>15812826
Green Day!
Green Week!
(Still so far in the hole, it's disgusting. It'll take me a very long time to make back these losses)

Today was a good day for Merckantalism!

>>15813039
Interesting, but makes me feel like an absolute retard. I haven't the faintest.

>>15812826
Down another 3% today, adding to my ever declining portfolio of -24% in losses for the week. Guess I'll be drinking myself into a coma this weekend mourning the loss of my dignity.

Also, that's not Chili's, you fucking heretic.

On Monday, I can finally trade commission-free on Schwab. Looking forward to blowing up my account even faster now.

What if Hong Kong is the new Sudetenland.

>>15813088
yeeeeee
the graphs are kind of clunky though, the RH line charts are nice because they're so clean and straightforward.

sometimes more than a bit inaccurate though...

>>15813119
Line charts are for fags

>>15813018
>Distance from home
All Chinese overseas community indicate otherwise
>Look at western colonies
Most of the time that's only because local people still dominate the country. Look at New Caledonia, those French living there are still voting against independence despite local native population mostly favor it.
>Social structure that will form
Most Chinese overseas workers in Africa depends on the company that hire them to provide daily necessities like residence or food and such. Most of those companies are Chinese state-owmed company. Most things they read will either be domestic news/publication in mainland China, or local Chinese publication supported by China because Chinese government have so much money that they have controlled most overseas Chinese media already. Social network and internet service they use will also be from mainland China because foreign platforms cannot break the Chinese site monopoly when they cannot serve China directly. As a result, despite physically living outside China, their life and social structure is still same as when they're within China
>African
They don't need African people but they need African countries. Many international proposal from China gained dozens of countries support mainly from African countries. It was also African countries that maonly voted for P.R.China replacing Republic of China's seat in the United Nation. Most of them also have a somewhat authoritative governing structure that China can just extend their domestic way of doing business to those countries and gather profit and resources from them using ways they familiar.

>>15813119
Just use tradingview charts like everybody else. Is free (block their popups).

What do you guys mostly do when it comes to trades? Are you usually working with buying and selling stocks specifically or are you using trade options as well? Or perhaps a mixture of both? Or neither?

>>15813244
fiiiiiine

I hate making new accounts and giving out my email and stuff, but I'll get over it. Might make a ThinkorSwim thing too. People seem to like their tools.

>>15813261
just buy good stocks

for options, you have to be much more active just to be breaking even. it's like a full time job.
I already have a full time job, I don't have enough time to be trading in and out of the market aggressively.
I buy good stuff. If I see a short term trade that I think has significant EV, I'll take it. Otherwise, I'm patient. And I'm stable.

>>15813287
certainly make a tradingview account. For any of the services to make an account on, they're probably the best. Very useful, very nice website.
you should have at least 3 burner emails for making accounts that aren't connected to any of your "real" emails.

>>15813261
Im holding my stocks for a long time

>>15812929
Yes. They've been attempting to make reductions. However, US presence in Korea is massive compared to other overseas tours. Lot of manpower over there.

>>15813218
>All Chinese overseas community indicate otherwise
Complete bullshit, ask your local Chinese restaurant if they would die and live under chinese rule again

>New Caledonia
>one specific example vs millennia of history

>Chinese government have so much money that they have controlled most overseas Chinese media already.
Incorrect and at best a overvalue of China’s ability to censor outside information. They cannot even keep secret that they are stealing American tech and using it for their military designs let alone stop information going to their proxg states.

>They don't need African people but they need African countries
>they dont need the people but the land. That is exactly what I said.
>China can just extend their domestic way of doing business to those countries and gather profit and resources from them using ways they familiar.
You cannot run the same system when the compents of it a vastly different than the original.
Also it it not economically beneficial to have another states workers reap the profits of your labors when you can easily replace them with your own more competent people.

When the Africans lose their jobs and land to another people what do you think is the most logical conclusion based on African history? There will be attempts of terrorism on Chinese run facilities. Leading to a conflict of Chinese run States and non Chinese supported states. It will be the middle east 2.0.

>>15813406
you understand you're arguing against HKanon right
even if you don't agree with everything he says, nothing he says is "complete bullshit"
he takes time out of his day to come to an English language website and give us insight about the Chinese point of view on things, from his own kindness

I'm not saying you can't disagree with him, but you should instead have an attitude of trying to see another point of view, instead of an argumentative stance where you're trying to prove a point

>>15813261
I gamble on individual issues like a real degen. But not really. I take a sector approach and buy a variety of names from the sector because I can't be sure which ones will show the movement I'm looking for. So for example, I have an oil theory. So I buy large cap oil and gas exploration companies. And I buy only the ones that are relevant, ie, only those based in the middle east or whatever the play might be.
1-3 month time horizon on most stuff. I want to catch at least one dividend payment. I've gone longer but usually want to cut at or before 6 months. There's nothing wrong with LT holds, it's just that's not trading. And <1 month is pointless noise navigation, I find I see better performance after at least one month.
I do have some stuff I just hold forever. But that's the investing side of the portfolio. The goal of trading is to make the ephemeral excess return to put away into my LTs.
>options
Usually never because I can just buy an inverse instrument to hedge if I really must hedge. Or short my own position. But I prefer inverse because of the limited max risk. Only works for sector plays, for specific issues you must short. Never had much luck with options.

>>15812826
Added 1.39%. It's helping but I'm still down probably about 2% for the week. Got kinda soaked on etfc after they announced zero comms. And sbux has been a bit of a problem child lately with the farmers and all.

I can't wait for the tech bubble to burst.

>>15812826
Today: -.36
Week: -3.64

>>15813406
>>15813482
HKANON is highly valuable to understanding life in HK. And is a pretty cool guy. Whether wrong or not about anything hearing an opinion from inside a place with lots of barriers to communicate if very helpful.

>>15812826
Today +1.39
Week +2.08

Also in my other account my bonds and t babies cancelled each other out for the week and ended up being pretty flat.

>takes credit for solving Ebola
>gives no credit to based MERCK
He even claimed that big pharma might be behind all the Ukraine “witch hunt” shit
FUCK DRFUQMP
IMBLEACHMENT NAAAOOOOOOO

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short "bitcoin group se"
https://www.finanzen.net/aktien/bitcoin_group-aktie

>>15813819
Extremely low quality post.

>>15813837
kys

>>15813819
Hahahaha Look at this faggot

>>15813406
>Incorrect and at best a overvalue of China’s ability to censor outside information. They cannot even keep secret that they are stealing American tech and using it for their military designs let alone stop information going to their proxg states.
Don't underestimate the language barrier and the sense of community. Surely they cannot touch those who have already integrated into life of foreign countries and read what local mainstream media say, but many overseas Chinese don't live such a live, especial for those who're only staying overseas for a fixed period for a specific job.
>African
Most of the time Chinese investment in African countries are self contained so they don't have a lot of competition with African workers. But still there are conflicts. Whether that would lead to what you predict will depends on what will happen in the future

>already down like 20% in SGMO
>literally have no choice but to wait for the big catalyst coming at the end of the year and pray it's good news

anyone else like this atm for something? in too deep to cut your losses basically? literally, LITERALLY nothing is going to happen except the share price languishing until december, fuck my fucking life i'll never do fundamental analysis trades again in my life i swear.

Another day. Market is on the upswing. I'm making back my losses a bit at a time. Still a long way to go, I'm down 2k you know. Still it's all meaning less once 11/14 hits, then AMRN shall deliver the Cash infusion I need. Make back my whole investment wad and then some. 20k in the bank, the rest split between my T-babies and two Funds I've got.

what strategy do you guys use to trade? just curious how you guys make your decisions to go long or short and for how long, risk management/stops, etc.

>>15814058
i short bitcoin group se with a leverage
thats my strategy

>>15814092
You're strategy is worse than mine

>>15814107
no this meme proves otherwise

>>15812454
>us bonds / Bitcoin are a save heaven
rising interest rates / cost to maintain the network

>>15813985
>20%
hahahahahaha
yes
40+% in CGC
also just looked at where I cut my losses in MO... lost $26 already by not HODLing. Doesn't really help to think like that though.

new thread

>>15814143
>>15814143
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new thread

>>15814143
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new thread

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>>15814143

I got too much manga at the library bros.
I don’t think I’m gonna make it.
Graham and lynch wouldn’t do this.

>>15814058
I let the booze handle decision making

>>15814203
Got me

>>15813482
>>15813653
I could be arguing with GOD HIMSELF and i would still call him a fag.

>>15813879
>but many overseas Chinese don't live such a live, especial for those who're only staying overseas for a fixed period for a specific job
Sure thats a possibility but the main thing that draws people to read about geopolitical events is world conflict. We can both agree that once the flow of information starts it is impossible to stop. But this is all just speculation. Hell its entirely possible that we will see a peaceful transition.
>African
The eventual land acquisition similar to apartheid would be a tension building factor.

>>15814480
When you see him tell him I called him a fag too

Doing some market recon I have to report on Office Depot. Office depot near me closing down big signs even their fixtures are for sale. Uncertain future for ODP.

Stop by the dollar store, found a these babies. Just more evidence of the innovative nature of Frito-Lay. I think I’m going to hold this one through any turmoil.

Will report back on whether there are any good.

Also, tiny sips. Sugar-free monster, in a size that looks like it was specifically made for discount retail. Could have promise.

Millennials love snacking and we love our sips.

>>15814671
tiny sips???
holy fugg they're so cutie
I don't know about the viability of nut snacks these days. Anecdotally I never see anyone buying them, all anyone gets are takis (drunk thot bait) and upmarket kettle chips (v nummy)

>>15814883
I just recently got turned on to takis, and they’re super addictive. I didn’t know they were for drunk thots.

I thought these would be good for that because the flamin hot flavor is basically just like the fuego flavor. But I’m afraid you’re right. They remind me too much of bar nuts, that mix of weird pretzel things and peanuts. That’s very boomer like, and they’re not really the target demo.

There is some heat to them, but I don’t think they’ll be a big hit in the US. They’re what I imagine Japanese peanuts are like.

>>15812826
Up 1% today, up 21% for the week

>>15814671
>Office depot near me closing down big signs even their fixtures are for sale. Uncertain future for ODP.
Office Depot is closing down? How the hell is that possible and where the fuck am I going to get my office accessories now? FUCKING WALMART IS THE ONLY OTHER CHOICE FUCK!

>>15814267
You think they only lived to make money and had no hobbies, no personal interests? Just learn to prioritize and how to set aside time for fun versus time for studying, research, and learning.

>>15815209
i've always hated the actual office depot stores but liked their prices.. staples always had a better feel but too high prices... I think office depot is still doing good because they cater to small businesses

Just when I was about to start with Fidelity Schwab, TD Ameritrade, ETrade, all go to zero commissions. Back to the drawing board.

Starting Monday I can start investing in my wife's Roth, mine, and a custodial account I have with Schwab (((commission))) free. It's like a whole new work opening up for my cheap ass. Thought to be fair they had a pretty good commission free offering before, but now it's like a literal free for all.

>>15814671
Man those flamin hot chips are too much for my white ass, I can only eat 4 and I am done.

>>15815265
They'll go commission free soon enough if they want to stay in the business. Really thinking about buying some Schwab stock considering they were the first big broker to make the move. But it also wouldn't be surprising if TDA and all the rest had contingencies in place to make the leap as well. Crazy that they are going to be losing hundreds of millions a quarter because of this. Schwab's cost is fucking $100 million in revenue per quarter gone just like that.

>>15815265
i've never used etrade but TDameritrade Think or swim is pretty nice and easy to use especially with options

>>15815265
I prefer Fidelity over TD, but they haven’t gone free that I’ve seen. Ally just did though.

Who Amrn here?

>>15815343
We’re NAKD here. Going to bounce off support to the moon.

>>15815362

I'm also NAKD too. Bought 10,000 shares. Don't really mind losing the money if its a bust. I got a lot invested in AMRN so I hope November works out.

Guys, what do we think about RIV? Canopy Rivers.

I think I fell for the meme. I was shilled AUSA here as well, bought it for $7 then had to sell at $4 when it fucking dropped from 7 to 4 in like 30 seconds.

I went in on RIV at 4.80 and 3.70, but it's just been a slow bleed forever and the CEO is just dumping his shit.

Am I getting memed on? I only have 500 shares total but still.

>>15812454
Market crash Monday. Screencap this.

>>15815524
Bad post.

I am curious about what will happen if the trade talks end with a hand shake and a see you later.

does movie tho?

>>15815524
bought voo. bets that you'll get losses till thursday.

>>15814671
>Doing some market recon I have to report on Office Depot. Office depot near me closing down big signs even their fixtures are for sale. Uncertain future for ODP.

Obviously, continuing to close more and more stores is not a sustainable long-term plan for success, but store closures are part of their strategic plan. Hopefully the closures will result in a leaner, meaner retail division in the long term.

>>15815524
>x4DP
>literally a laughing merchant
consider this an omen. cancel your shorts

>>15815606
pls?

Not trolling. Was buying BYND a decent idea? Bought @ 144.65

>>15812454
How wild am I? I am probably going to practice investing with fake money for YEARS while I work a job to save money. PRETTY CRAZY HUH?

>>15815685
>girl
movies are a saturday thing

>>15815694
yea gib link tho
i dont know which one yall use anymore
last i checked comfys was empty
did he kys?

>>15815557
Trump is too prideful to end the trade war without a deal that China will never accept.
>>15815675
>longing the top
>>15815682
>hating money

>>15815720
>hating money so much that you'll skip an upswing.
OY VEEEYYYYYYYY

>>15815524
Screencapped.

550 shares of VTI checking in, what should I add?

>>15815310
>But it also wouldn't be surprising if TDA and all the rest had contingencies in place to make the leap as well.
The fact that they were able to respond to Schwab's move within 24 hours is confirmation of that. None of these brokerages are going to take hundred million dollar hits to their bottom line. If that was the case, all the rest would have pointed and laughed at Schwab while sticking to their standard fee structure.

>>15815741
And lost all their users, as schwab continues expanding its massive asset base?

I'm guessing they've all been watching robinhood and seething.

Also, Schwab has been making money from other source for a long time. They have their own low-fee etf's, and they WERE getting paid by some funds, don't know if that will end now that all the etf's are feeless. Schwab also has bonds, futures, commodities, I don't know but they seem like the ones with the upper hand.

And yeah, they'll be selling order flow.

>I should’ve understood the market before betting against it
I lost it all today

>>15815236
Yes, the Business Solutions Division income has been growing whereas income has been declining in the (consumer) Retail Division, although some of that decline is attributable to deliberate store closures.

My experience is consistent with yours. The Staples has three nearby stores that I've shopped at in the past several years. Staples definitely has larger, and better-looking stores than the Office Depot I go to now. Office Depot has some good deals. For example, I recently bought toner from off their website. Toner prices were slightly more expensive than Costco (which sells it in a two-pack), but they have free-shipping and it was at my door in one business day. Amazon doesn't do that. Getting toner from Office Depot is also convenient because you can take your spent cartridges back there for recycling in exchange for store credit, which you can use in turn toward your next toner purchase.

Interestingly, Staples is supposed to IPO (at least with probability) in 2020. I don't know enough about it to compare the business, and this kind of stuff is outside my field of competency, but I'm going to assume they're not such a hot company. Sycamore bought Staples for $1.6 billion just back in 2017, and they're already looking to dump it back on the market for an estimated $1 billion. I would assume that if Staples was such a hot company, Sycamore would not be selling off Staples so quickly or so cheaply. ODP's current market cap is something like $900 million now, even after the stock has been beaten down so far over the recent months.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sanfordstein/2019/04/10/does-staples-rebranding-foretell-the-fall-of-another-retailer-to-private-equity/

>>15815736
write weekl/mpnthly covered calls against them on high vol days?
idk, im trying to think how to be even more boomer
5 of em should net you a not-so-negligable premium every few weeks/months, as well as give you some downside protection

if youre brave, write ATM weekly ones on bloody ass days like the other day and enjoy free fucking money

>>15815780
eh everyone trying to actively trade blows up eventually
hopefully you did so with a smol account, and hopefully you were able to learn something
think of it like tuition

Will Trump be able to will the market to stay up or do you guys think we'll be in a recession before the 2020 election

>>15815776
>And lost all their users, as schwab continues expanding its massive asset base?
My point is Schwab obviously has a plan, as do the rest who followed shortly thereafter. This isn't a case of a bunch of brokerages collectively jumping off a bridge in order to pull more clients. The idea that they're just going to write off the hundreds of millions in fees they collected annually is ridiculous. If that truly had been the case, Schwab would have been alone in making this move.

Halp, I got punched in the (((Gentrification)))

>>15815841
I don't think that follows. If the other brokerages had let schwab do it and they just stood still, they would have lost all their users. That would also have cost them hundreds of millions.

>>15815741
>None of these brokerages are going to take hundred million dollar hits to their bottom line.

TD Ameritrade said themselves they expect to take a several hundred million dollar hit to their bottom line annually.

>“This is great news for our clients, and thanks to the diversity of our business model, we’re able to make it a reality,” said Steve Boyle, chief financial officer, TD Ameritrade. “We expect this decision to have a revenue impact of approximately $220-240 million per quarter, or approximately 15-16 percent of net revenues, based on June Quarter fiscal 2019 revenue. We’ll have more information about our fiscal 2020 plan when we release fourth quarter earnings later this month.”
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191001006211/en/TD-Ameritrade-Introduces-0-Commissions-Online-Stock

>>15815860
The brokerages will be fine. There's nothing to worry about.

>>15815860
>>15815876
best guess is that all have been working on this extensively. I would imagine that Ameritrade was not as prepared as Schwab or Interactive Brokers. I haven't read up on Etrade nor Fidelity.

>>15815877
they will be fine if they adapt
hes right that they will take a significant hit if large amounts of their customers switch for another brokerage
they are a bank after all. if all their money walks out the door theyre fucked

It's time to sell stocks. The markets will be down 20% within a year. Then can buy back in and have more shares.

>>15815908
y tho?

>>15815702
the room is malthus_mithraeum and that was a pain in the ass to type

(comfy) died of small pox

>>15815908
I also like to fantasize about cheap stocks

but wanting something to happen doesn't mean it will

>>15815917
Read this thread for why
>>15814951

>>15815920
ahhhh that was SoSs one
i couldnt remember what his was called

>(comfy) died of small pox
elaborate
i didnt know he was an anti-vaxxer

>>15815929
the vaccine doesn't always stick, that's why herd immunity thing is important

>>15815923
people saying medium size business lending is going to shrek the credit market, I haven't found the desire to dig. Got any leads or proxies?

>>15815893
My (ignorant) opinion is as follows. How much does it actually cost to execute an online order? I'm sure it's nowhere near $4.95 or $6.95 or whatever they charge. Commissions made sense when you actually took up a human broker's time. For example, if employing a broker cost $60 an hour, then an average minute of the broker's time needs to bring in $1 just to cover those costs. Now, everything's automated and electronic. It costs money to operate and manage people's accounts, but there's no correspondence between those costs and a flat per-trade $4.95 commission. On the other hand, if there's no competitive pressure to drop those commissions, charging commissions is printing free money. Now, the competition is dropping the commissions, and they don't have a choice. The loss of revenue from commissions won't render them insolvent, but it's still a loss of roughly 15% of total revenues for TDA.

>>15815923
oh i agree i just wanted to hear your take on it

the problem with watching treasury yields imo is that while they are seemingly prophetic, the time frame can be all over the place
personally i think its corporate debt that will blow up this time and we will see large conglomorates swallowing up valuable assets off of competitors in a firesale (a la 08 w FED and large banks), leaving the rest to die
couldnt say when but likely sooner than later

>tfw when you put out expensive cockroach bait for your roaches and were afraid they might not like it, but then about a week later you hear the rustling of one of the squares of aluminum foil you put the bait on

Feels good, man.

>>15815836
What do you think this is? /smg/ Nostradamus edition? Nobody knows that shit. If you want to play the market because you think a recession will happen (another financial crisis), then place orders at every fucking landmark support area, average your position massively and wait in a loss until the markets recover. That's literally all you can do.
For example on the DJI, have orders every 2k starting at 20k. So 20k, 18k, 16k, etc etc (obviously have your entries at large support areas and not flat-out numbers, but roughly 2k apart). If your plan is to wait until it happens and you think you will catch a great position during the dump that could last for months you're a fucking moron that will lose it all either way. So average out your position as good as you can and a few years after the crash you can show off your position to people, might not be the best position because you averaged out.. but it will be better than 95% of investors/traders, not to mention the people that lost it all trying to catch the dip.

What are you guys drinking tonight

>>15815955
>it's still a loss of roughly 15% of total revenues for TDA.
Sure. Compare against the changes in market cap that have occurred with Schwab and AMTD since the announcement. AMTD in particular.

>>15815955
Looking at the sheet, they're going to be out something like a quarter of their revenues. I'm going to guess that the added assets are going to wash out with increased operating expenses or they're going to make some pretty strong restrictions on what you can do with think or swim. From my personal experience with TD, i'm not sure they will be able to be competitive with schwab or robinhood without hurting shareholders or taking resources from TD.

>>15816033
Assuming they do nothing to recoup the revenue.

>>15816015
I'm drinking some Natty Daddy honestly. Also love your plush. I want one.

>>15815795
didn't know that staples was private.. their ticker used to be spls i believe

Yeah I never cared for the "look and feel" of office depot but yeah.. know a lot of small buisness owners that go through them.. they have established accounts and what not and none of them i've talked to plan on changing that... i guess thats whats next for ODP just straight up catering b2b

>>15812454
Just bought stocks for the first time today lads what am I in for?

I bought LINK, ETH, XRP, XLM and EOS

>>15815969
muh credit crunch isnt going to happen thats Doomer fantasy

>>15816039
>i'm not sure they will be able to be competitive with schwab or robinhood without hurting shareholders or taking resources from TD
If they just drop all of that revenue, it's 33%. I'm guessing it'll be 25%. My personal managers only make a few trades a year. Index investing is the trend and maybe there will be more active management if the stonk market crab walks. I think that a loss of 75% of Commission and transaction based fees is a reasonable number. Their operating costs will absolutely increase with more users. they may have a larger asset base but they will need to control costs. Based on the timing of TDAs announcement I think they are following Robinhood more than Schwab and IB. They will be playing catchup on their operating costs while slowly adding features to free trading to stay competitive with robinhood. It might be an upward battle to keep slimming out their service if TD doesn't inject a bunch of money.

>>15816072
wow..

>>15816080
it obviously will unless powpow turns the free infinite money glitch back on tho

>>15816152
Fed already said they would do that
Its
PATCHED
FOREVER

>>15816161
lol i guess the entire rest of the global economy can eat shit and fucking die then
ah well. they all talk stupid anyways

>>15816152
What do you think the repos are? Its QE4 disguised

>>15816179
>QE4 disguised
i agree
so how many times do you think well be able to get away with this then? QE doesnt seem to be doing the same exact thing every time

>>15816152
>OBVIOUSLY
>bad things will happen
>UNLESS
>people in charge of making sure bad things don't happen take action
wow... it's nothing

>>15816179
Not really, that money doesn't stay in the repo market. It's not cumulative.

Though one of the meetings this year, the fed minutes did have a discussion of new QE tactics.

>>15816199
the fed doesnt care about keeping boomers pensions above water tho.
they care about keeping their keynesian insanity going.

>>15816199
>that money doesn't stay in the repo market. It's not cumulative.
That is not true. Not all of the collateral taken gets sold back. Since the repo operations started the overall QE-QT has increased the balance sheet by $176 billion dollars. And the Fed just extended operations out to November.

>>15816028
AMTD shares are down over 1/4 for the week versus an expected 15% decline in revenues. But if you compare agaimst earnings instead, what effect does that loss of 15% revenue have?

>>15816177
ooooh I love you teh profit, but if you dont submit to the golden bull soon you might end up with a case of small pox

>>15816033
I think you're interpreting the first line as being solely composed of the revenues from those commissions that have been eliminated, which isn't the case. You should subtract the (estimated) $220-240 million instead for a rough idea.

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>>15815687

Nope. That's shits gonna tank hard

>>15816293
what else would there be other than transaction fees (free), fees for options (still charging), and etfs (free in this account?)?

>>15816286
you gotta tell me what exactly happened to comfy nikkei
did he kys?

>>15816325
Ok when and why? Also should I put a buy in for NAKD @ .045 50,000? You like AMRN right

>>15816378

>>15816389
well... no

as far as I know he joined some Mormon excursion and doesnt care about stocks anymore. I actually sent the small pox to Retarded Kneepad Girl and killed her for real

Stocks don't change your personality. You think shares of a publicly traded company can change your personality? It can't change who you are. I've heard of "ego death" but even that sounds far-fetched to me, and not something that's cause by stocks, merely triggered. I'm 99.99% sure I'm never going to experience it.

>>15816459
>as far as I know he joined some Mormon excursion and doesnt care about stocks anymore
lol
the mustve found out how much of a degenerate he was and forced him into one of the underground re-education camps underneath salt lake

>>15816482
be ambitious

>>15816498
A podcast I used to listen to had a story of mormons legally signing away their kids to “re-education” camps.
>>15816482
Money can change your personality. It shows what you really are inside.

>>15816553
im actually not kidding desu
also i was always reminding him hes a fucking mormon and can just go to the temple and get assigned like 6 gfs by default
dummy was always trying to score some fancy new diseases off tinder

>>15816569
>he would rather have short term loose thot pussy
>not the plethora of tight, loyal, virgins at his choosing
Was he a GALT shiller also?

>>15816553
>implying I need money to know that I'm a nervous wreck

>>15816618
desu i cant fucking remember
btw what was that one black owned bank we used to shill at everyone?

>>15816658
are you referring to Carver Bancorp

>>15816618
>Was he a GALT shiller also?
if you're talking about comfy... he fucking bashed on everybodys pick for absolutely no reason.. he just likes to go against the grain.. thats why he will always be a failure.

>>15816670
CARV
i still say that this event 100% confirmed that hedgies shitpost w us

>>15816690
because this is the only place you get True Large Spec opinion. All other sites its small spec world

>>15816445
Lemme try braeking this down word by word
>Transaction-based revenues - revenues generated from client trade execution, consisting primarily of comissions, markups on riskless principal transactions in fixed income securities, transaction clearing fees and order routing revenue

from customers/brokers making trades, mostly from making the trade, making annuities, bonds, and preferred stonk more expensive, charges for having a place to make trades and making trades in different places cause the customer said so.

looks like a new quarterly comissions based trading revenue number should be something like the order routing + options fees. Looking at how close the transactions fees are to an average 6.95, i think it's reasonable to assume that something like 10 million of their 169 million trades included options over the 9 nine month period. per quarter, it's 3.4M trades at $0.65 and $121M for clearing. I suspect that it's are closer to 350 M in lost quarterly revenue.

In any case, revenue is AT MOST 31% down, their announcement of 220-240 is likely optimistic, but still leaves a net pretax income loss of 29.7%. Costs will go up due to more trades and users so this is only considering projected revenue cost. These guys are going to need to get lean fast or find resources asap. I really would consider Ameritrade a gamble until the price has lost at least another 25%. I would put my own money in much further down or much further in the future.

Starting out in the market. As of today, I have 10 stock positions, 1 ETF and 1 mutual fund? Is that enough of diversification to make it bois?

>>15816872
are all 10 of those stock positions in cannabis companies? Because then yes.

>>15816885
lel no, mostly oil, gas, mining companies, focused mostly all on dividends

>>15815730
>hating money so much you insist we're on an upswing

>>15816903
what miners?

I could be interested in some rare earths, the PM miners been mooning too much lately

>>15812620
Shit in china is always breaking and killing people.
Everyone needs dashcams because of scammers.
We get to see all the shitty construction killing people in epic ways because of fucking scammers. Their brand new shit is breaking all the time.
Also they have can no problem trying to screw around and try to weasel their way out of contracts like you can’t believe. Even big fucking orders of machinery or building materials will result in a fucking headache of sorry no can does. The chinese government doesn’t do a good job of holding their companies responsible.

How many of you read all of the quarterly and yearly reports or do you guys just skim them?

>285p 10/7 on SYP
what're the chances Trump fucks up trade negations over the weekend and the market plummets during opening on Monday? I got greedy and didn't sell my 200% return on Wednesday

>285p 10/7 on SPY
what're the chances Trump fucks up trade negotiations over the weekend and the market plummets during opening on Monday? I got greedy and didn't sell my 200% return on Wednesday

>>15817438
you're fucked on those puts
you need the market to go down more than 3.4% by EoD Monday to make money on them; we would probably need to gap down like 2.6%+ for you to have any shot to sell them on open for anything
trade negotiations resuming on the 10th, so everything is going to be pretty buckled-down. just a slow melt up Monday and Tuesday, calm headlines, no one agitating the markets.

I give you a 0.25% chance, honestly. It would have to be a bigger weekend shitfest than we've had all year to suddenly pop down hard towards 285.
You can say "I got greedy" as if you knew what you were doing, but we know better around these parts.

>>15817266
I don't read

LNC I was ready to stay with you weeks/months, waiting for you to go back up so I can dump my bags. Then when this news popped up and made you suddenly go back up.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lincoln-financial-group-jen-warne-183000286.html
It makes little sense for some underrepresented/minority getting a reward to make a stock wanna go back up, especially if it's in the financial services sector. Maybe I'm just dumb though.

Who else is getting hammered this weekend?

PURCHASING my first ETF on interactivebrokers right now. I don't really know what I'm doing - is it alright if I spend all of my money in one go? I have around $70,000 I want to put into this one fund.

>>15818234
yeah but the market is closed right now

>>15817936
nah

>>15818234
Do your own research
If it’s the right decision then you’ll sleep comfy
Investing on advice from /biz/ autistics quickest way to dumpster diving for a living

>>15818252
I know, I'm just asking as I'm new to this. On IB it says I'm exceeding the limit and they don't recommend I place a trade that large. I just ignore that right?

>>15818304
I'm about the trade execution not the product itself. Don't worry, I've done the research on that.

>>15818357
Take a screenshot of the IB warning
Are they just freaking out because you're placing a market order when the market is closed?
It's "technically" unwise. It's the kind of stuff that needs worry about.

Hmm, ran a quick and dirty net worth calculator with almost all my income sources added together. By age 65 I'll have $254,500. I left out my pension and part of my tax refund.

Left out part of my refund to kinda factor in "shit happens" deals. Also my new job, still in works, so if that comes through my pension and amount I'm able to stuff away will go up. Still $254 thousand isn't bad, considering that I get by on a shitty 27k now and that the col is low as fuck.

>>15818564
sth about violating the 3% constraint
i cant login right now (server down) so can't screenshot it.

>>15818868
I always ignore that. 3% of my money can only buy penny stocks.

>>15818868
I'm looking at the IB "define precautionary settings" help page. It indicates that the 3% warning means that you submitted a limit order with a limit 3% (or more) above the last market (spot) price.

No matter what, you should be cautious about submitting any limit order outside of market hours. There is a chance the order won't fill, or you could get a bad deal buying into a wide spread (shallow order book) first thing Monday morning.

>>15818710
But this assumes the low end of the AMRN payday happens. If the payday is more then this figure will be going up biggly

>>15819019
Right, makes sense. Thanks, I'll check again on Monday.

>>15819037
And what if AMRN payday never happens?

>>15819181
Let's not be ridiculous now

>>15818710
How old are you now?

>>15815923

Just as an FYI. There are stocks you can hold during a recession that can weather the storm. It's not going to be that big of a deal that everyone thinks.

I potentially see companies that are in debt to have issues. Which is concerning considering I have some stocks in ACB and IPL which are both in debt, I'm not sure how a companies with good structure/assets (but are in debt) handle recessions.

One of my boomer comrades who worked for Reuters said he stays away from companies in debt. But at the end of the day, he doesn't take large positions and neither do I.

Everything will probably decrease during a recession and you'll probably lose money. But depending on the stocks that you own, maybe you don't care about that lost money as long as you're generating income via dividends.

It's when shit goes bankrupt, that's the concern, but if it's a big name it's probably not going to.

>>15819678
So how do I find these recession-resistant stocks?

Fuck weekends

>>15819700

Look at the chart.

Hey,yall have any REITs that are worth taking a look at?

>>15819678
why not just invert etf?

>>15819700
You can buy FTCS (it's an ETF that seeks to invest in companies with strong finances).
Better yet, to avoid paying their fee, just look at the ETF components and buy those (it's active, so you have to readjust when they do).
Even better than that: buy strong companies with massive potential for earnings growth (SGMO, BILI, KHC, etc.)
No matter what you choose: buy KNG

>>15815923
what the fuck is an "everything" bubble anyhow? I've seen this thrown around but it sounds like the most nebulous bullshit

>>15819766
inverse ETFs have to be reset and you'll lose money holding them long term. you might as well work with options also ALWAYS USE STOP LOSSES

>>15816482
you're never going to experience ego death unless you experiment with certain drugs.

>>15817266
I absorb all market information through osmosis

>>15820255
you're never going to experience true ego death unless you buy certain stocks.
The drugs are just an (indispensable) catalyst to the metachemical reaction, but they aren't the underlying reagent that interfaces with your soul.

>>15820331
you need to purchase the drugs and do certain stocks. I've been part of some very new age trading groups. The stock is the catalyzer but you still need the drugs in order to access those spaces. If you've done this properly you will gain access to level 4 data, but be careful because that will change your perspective of the market entirely and it's not easy for most people to grasp

>>15820375
It's not at all about gaining access to market data... those trading groups have you fooled, they're probably some pajeets trying to sell you a "spiritual experience" like riding on elephants and "mindfulness" and shit.
There isn't some neatly packaged revelation waiting to be discovered online... the answers closest to the thing that we call "the truth" are the smells and noises on the floor in Chicago or New York or London. Acres nature polluted in China to make plastic crap that no one wants. The blood and oil and gold of it. But the real essence of the market isn't there, those are just guideposts.
The final place that you will go to find the real market is in the neverending absolutely dark place that waits underneath the seat of your soul. You will have to look down, a place that you have never looked before. It is a place that you won't want to look.

>>15819645
I'm 36. Net worth now is 41k. No debt other than house which is a plus. If I'd gotten into the market at a younger age and not been a "trinket" buyer in my 20's my net worth would be higher. But least I started dumping into my employer 401 right from the start (2005) and I've avoided the debt trap so go me.

>>15820236
at the end another banking crisis
this time because of qe that flowed into everything

>>15820498
are you referring to the repo market? I don't see that as the end of anything and I'm pretty sure we could print our way out of this issue without much fallout

>>15820375
What the fuck is this jewish shit?

As a newfag investor, would you diversify ASAP to start compounding monthly or invest fully into 2 or 3 for the bigger payout quarterly, then diversify?

>>15820619
Slowly enter positions over a period of time. Your first priority is loss prevention. Worry about how much you stand to gain after the first is adequately addressed.

>>15820639
I pretty much have my investing strategy planned out from doing my homework and lurking. Interested in dividends, if a stock cuts their payout, then I am cutting my losses and selling right then and there. Was predominantly asking if it was wise to mitigate risk by spreading into 10 to 20 stocks starting out.

So this is why the AMRN payday is such a big deal to me. Its a way to make up for my mistakes during my 20's/early 30s. Will allow me to boost my cash on hand and supercharge my other long term investments. The payoff from those investments will be the real payday down the road when I may need it.

>>15820723
>10 to 20 stocks starting out.
Ten max. I suggest something closer to large index position and ~5 individual companies in various sectors. 20 is too much.

>>15820619
>investor
>diversify
>quarterly

>>15820619
Time is your biggest enemy. The older you are, the more seed (investment) money required to make anything worth a damn. If your 20 your upfront money required is way less than some dude just starting out at age 40. The only way this doesn't apply is if your wanting a quick payday, such as a Bio company that makes it. But for long term growth/dividends time is your foe or friend depending.

>>15820820
A good way to look at it is this. Most of those fund charts give this as an example: 10k min investment. 10 years later its worth 25k. It don't say that there was more added over time so I'll assume it was just a one time lump sum dump. So after 20 years that 10k would be growing to 50k. 25 years maybe 55k. At this point your going "hey 55k is pretty damn good from just a 10k lump sum" Which it is. But consider this. A new truck, loaded now costs 50 - 70k. Just think what one would run you 25 years from now.

>>15820738
>fish oil
What's the market for this?
AMRN already has a mcap of 5b and 10bagged a year ago(i guess because of results).

>>15820927
I have a feeling they're gunna pull the rug on AMRN...

>>15820738
How much are you in for? Options or just boomer stocks?

>>15820951
They better not, I'm holding a lot of AMRN

>>15821101
i think i might buy puts... at a glance.. imo.. the fundamentals aren't there to justify the valuations.. 5billion for what? what do they have thats worth 5billion?

Hong Kong government claim.that, out of 3300 ATM in the city, more than 10% of them have already been destroyed and no longer works, and then out of remaining working ATMs, about 5% of them have been exhausted in cash. They told citizens that there are enough HKD cash in the bank system and there are no need to panic.

>>15821327
Are people panicking?
Are you panicking?
If you were panicking, would you tell us?

AMRN - has two drug formulas. One is for high risk people and is already FDA approved. This has been a real money maker for them lately. The other, still awaiting FDA action is for broad use. The broad use one is where the real Profit comes into it. Both have the same name just different dosage (I think). Consider: The Big One is the top killer of Americans. Preventing/aiding to preventing that is a gold mine. Then toss into the mix the lack of nasty side effects or other possible benefits via one drug and the Profit is limitless (well almost, 10 yrs is the most they can milk it for. then it gets bargain binned, but still)

>>15821348
>Are people panicking?
Sort of, people stormed the supermarket for food and ATM for cash but not much else
>Are you panicking?
A bit but not much, however things are indeed heading to uncharted territory
>If you were panicking, would you tell us?
^

>>15821101
It already mooned. Why should it go up for fda meeting since it's a no brainer? There's no room for positive surprises and speculation. Buy the rumor sell the news, but here's not even a rumor to buy just a lot of room for negative surprises.
Whoever will buy AMRN will have to pay a lot of money given the current valuation which makes the finished drug just unnecessarily expensive and therefore I think the fda might add some salt here. + what LCIMaiden said.

Are there literally any reason for anyone to stay on Robinhood now? Or are they just flat-out dead?
The only reason I see is for noobs that needs an extremely simple UI and shit to trade/invest, but that's about it.

>>15821412
I'll keep it for after hours trading forsure

The investing/trading world is about to get crazy... i say we got another couple years of a bull run because of this..

>>15820524
the malinvestment debt fueled economy that wrecked the profit oriented economy will go bust without qe and you need a functioning banking system in order to have a growing economy

>>15821384
The price of a 30 day supply of the drug is only $9. Yep, just 9 puny dollars. Cheaper than even a bargain binned Lipotor (I looked). With no nasty side effects and higher percent effectiveness I may add.

So your saying ok how does 9 a pop generate loads of Profit? Volume pure and simple. You could sell it for a buck and still make loads of profit if you sold a shit load of it over a year. (or 10)

>>15821495
So this is why the stock is down; nothing new yet to get excited about, global shit happening,etc. Once the FDA gets it's ass kicked then the stock will fly higher due to the simple math. Volume x $9 = Profit. Nothing there for the "drug price" haters to get in an uproar about either. $9 a pop is pretty damn cheap I'd think. Big Pharma can do the math. They know the Profit they'd gain by buying AMRN. After the FDA meeting there is 70% final approval odds in favor of AMRN in december. So at some point between Nov and Dec I expect a lot of heavy bags of cash to get tossed on the AMRN board table.

>>15821384
Lmap, fish oil pills? Seriously? Nigga, like, just eat some fish sticks.

>>15821386
Hey don't forget my offer
I still have my second floor open, 3 bedrooms 1 bathroom, if you really start feeling concerned for your safety and you can still get an airline ticket out of Hk

>>15821412
Fucking easy UI. I don’t even know how to options trade on fidelity. I can buy/sell anywhere with my phone.

Bear fantasies are so cute. There was a thread recently about a financial collapse that would be caused by a social media fad called the “bank run challenge”

Gimme some good divie stonks to watch nerds

>>15821733
Utilities until the yield curve steepens.

Remember when these threads used to not suck?

>>15821696
I thought getting a work/immigration visa would be a bigger problem than finding a space to live in the United States.
Or can you help in that aspect too?
The situation still haven't reached the degree that it could be life threatening just to live the daily life (in 95% time), but I guess it's about time to think about what to do when that become the case...

>>15821963
no
I still remember the robinhood generals and they were fucking shit.
cel sci to 100000

>>15821967
I dunno how much I can do for a work visa, it depends what field(s) you have credentials in.
Medical physics or oncology? Engineering or computer stuff?
I don't have any connections in finance :p

If you really need to get out of HK you could try and find an American to get married with... we have some gays in these threads who might be willing to LARP with you
I don't really know that much about visas. I thought you could fly over here and just live for a while without a visa? Just take some time off from working if HK is getting firebombed by the PLA?

>>15821733
T
DIS
SWPPX
VFIFX
AMRN
KHC
GE
BHGE
LGF.A

Everything I need. Both Funds cover the whole market so yeah I don't need anymore.

>>15822105
Whoops,left out Comcast,heh

>>15822049
>we have some gays in these threads who might be willing to LARP with you
Oh come on MedicalPhysicsAnon, we have plenty of straight women in the US who would love to help out a refugee. Especially one who isn’t broke, and has some good English skills.

>>15822105
Hmmm...

You forgot about MRK

>>15822187
yeah but I don't know any of them ;^)

Lots of people are making a big deal about the "zero fee" thing. But here's the kicker. A lot of existing Funds/ETFs were already CF. So in the long run it won't change anything, stocks won't be any cheaper so the common man won't gain anything by saving what $5 per transaction. Think about it, you dump 10k into buying T, what's $5 more to you? The real question is how the brokerages are gonna make back that lost "profit". You need to worry about that more than anything. They're in the game to make money after all.

>>15822049
We don't even have Visa-free access to America.
It is possible to stay in the America for up to 180 days on tourist visa but that's it. If anything significant occurs in the city then I don't think it will over in such a short time. Although I think it's still rather unlikely for them to literally bomb the city or doing anything to that effect given there are still one to two million residents that are firmly supporting the Chinese government (according to personal estimate)
Staying beyond that point would make one become an illegal immigrant. Or it is also possible to apply for asylum. But both options seems problematic in the current political climate in the United States.

>>15821963
They always do on the weekend.

Any thoughts on Lynas as a 1+ year hold?

http://yna.kr/AEN20191004005454315
South Korea.

>>15822398
>You need to worry about that more than anything. They're in the game to make money after all.
What do you think? They make money by having $0 commission to begin with because with $0 commission comes a huge wave of new traders/investors. There's a TON of people that doesn't want to start trading because they only have maybe $1000 and don't want to pay $5 or whatever it is every time they sell or buy... that's a lot of money for some people. But now they will get those people to come in and trade, daily and more than ever.. and considering 95% of people lose money trading, the brokers will make a ton of money on the freshlings.
You make it sound like they will do some shady shit, but it's not like they will hide some secret fee without people realizing it on the first day which will backfire on them as a company. That's not how it works, especially not since there's like 500 different brokers that can take their customers in an heartbeat.

$0 commission is terrible for new traders because when you don't have any knowledge of the market then it's basically gambling, but it's great for experienced traders. Experienced traders have waited for the larger players to adopt the idea of $0 commission for years (since Robinhood came around), mostly because Robinhood is horrible for traders.

>>15822105
sell me Lionsgate and GE.

>>15822830
Coming from the insurance side, smaller accounts are usually way easier to manage. You don't have to do nearly as much to maintain small and inactive accounts, which I would guess is what will happen to many of the new accounts that don't get wiped out on options. their transaction frequency will be low and they won't really need active monitoring like larger institutional accounts.

>>15822899
>GE
Well... you don’t have to worry about them cutting the dividend

>>15822899
GE - They've sank rock bottom. No sugar coating it. However this means the rebound will be epic and indeed thus far they've managed to turn the tide. Is it great, no, but it's a step in the right direction. Also Culp has turned one previous company that was in the shat into a very profitable business so he's got the background for this type work. LGF.A - Rock bottom, the key here is the content and assets. They're building a studio in new york, they've rolled out a theme park in china. They've got content. Once the streaming wars kick off, everyone and there uncle will be wanting content. If your an up and coming Streaming Wars company which would you rather do, blow tons of money to create content that could blow up in your face due to audience backlash or buy a company that has it by the tons and gain other assets in the bargain. The only reason LGF ain't been bought yet is due to them wanting to sell the whole company not just parts of it.

>>15823297
Also the rumor is that once CBS and Viacom merge they will be looking to grow some more. LGF is on the short list of targets. It won't be DIS or T that buys LGF. The Feds would shut that down in a heartbeat. So that leaves Apple, Amazon or Netflix, or comcast as possible buyers. Hell Apple could buy them and not blink.

>>15823332
>tfw VIAB bagholder
Shit sucks man. At least the yield is decent, and they shouldn’t fall too much lower before violating the monthly bollinger band.

They’ve made too many acquisitions though, I hope they don’t buy LGF

>>15823297
I'm not totally sold on GE, but we have similar arguments for LGF.A, I'm growing a position in LGF.A, slowly growing a position in T, considering XOM, SCHW GE, D, and VZ. Watching VRSK from afar and already positioned in DIS.

What made the S&P so spicy last week?

>>15823521
low gex

>>15823527
I need a rundown on gamma exposure

Me also, still got no idea what gamma even is. Let alone the dark pool index

Do you pay for the service?

>>15823546
Delta is how much the price of an option changes when the underlying asset changes
Gamma is the derivative of delta, the rate of change of delta
Don't know anything about the option symbols other than that

Markets remain captive to;

1. Trade talks with China and likelihood of Chinese intervention in Hong Kong.

2. Fed easing.

3. Earnings/macro data.

It didn't surprise me that the jobs data was as okay as it was. Unemployment is the last thing to tick up in a recession as shedding jobs usually happens en mass after confidence has been loss. The stock market is a forward indicator and has already computed that before CEOs have.

holy bumpo jeeeez

>>15823541
I don't understand it completely either.
According to his theory market makers have to hedge their position(the options they sell) by buying or short selling shares. If gamme is 0 and delta therefore constant then the amount of shares they have to buy or short sell is a multiple(dependent on delta) of the count of options they've sold. Doesn't matter what happens in the underlying. The position is hedged. In reality it's not that easy because gamma is not 0 and delta therefore changes. A change in delta forces the market maker to reposition his hedge (in order to stay delta neutral) by buying shares back, short selling more... Let's say a mm sells 100 put options with delta = 0.5 then he has to short sell 500 shares. Price moves down now(because stonks go up, stonks go down....) => delta of those options increases => mm has to short sell more shares and pushes the price down even further. ||different case | same puts, stonks go up now||
delta decreases => mm has to buy back shares because his hedge from before is now an overkill (making him delta negative) and therfore moves the price up even more. In the put case gex is negative, means movements made by buyers and sellers in the market are amplified by hedging of mms. In the call case it's the other way round. It's basically a option squeeze or inverse squeeze depending on the put/call ratio.

Fuck it, I'ma start selling shit.
UNH at 221 is such a fucking buy if it weren't for this Warren shit.

But BankLarperAnon made a good point:
>If you are still struggling to get educated, you should not own anything. Invest in your education.

Also, sounds like maybe I should start getting student loans.

>>15823546
>Do you pay for the service?
No, I'm not even sure why he sells it in the first place. If it works to well why would he need to sell it for 1000$ a year, he even raised the price once and made the free trial 14 bucks. He says he wants to spread it to fuck with the banks.(because it works and they can't fake it like iv). Sounds fishy af. From his free chart(it's a shit chart) it looks somewhat convincing. I will not buy his shit but I will try to recreate it, Getting option data will be a bitch.

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>>15823863

Knowledge and a trading edge is power and money, and nobody with the ability to influence markets is going to give you good advice for free.

You might find low-tier or mid-tier guys who are good at technical analysis, but the best of them will admit that TA is only about POTENTIAL outcomes from rearwardly analyzing data. The things that move the markets up or down is new data becoming available to the markets.

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>>15823662

As soon as you rely on other people to dictate how you should invest or feel about the markets, instead of being naturally curious and looking up data points for yourself, you become a financial golem.