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>> No.15765612

>>15765511
If you made alot of wealth yourself and are just enjoying life from the fruits of your labor, nothing. You are free.

If you are dependent on someone else for your well being, everything. You are not free.

>> No.15765633

>>15765612
Except wagies are dependent on someone else for their well being.

>> No.15765636

>>15765612
>>15765511

Adding to this. If you inherited your wealth and are NEETING you are a parasite. I don't care what your parents did children should have to fly by their own laurels at some point.

>> No.15765652

>>15765511
it's not fair

>> No.15765654

>>15765636
They don't have to do anything. They already won.

>> No.15765667

>>15765636
>>15765612
SEETHE
life isnt fair poorfags. some of us never have to work a day in our lives

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15765706

>>15765636
Drink some Monster, it's salt-free and healthy.

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15765726

>>15765654

Nigga fuck off. I believe in meritocracy not aristocracy and low effort "arguments" like yours are cancer. The rich don't have the right to give their children a completely free ride period. I'm generally anti-income tax but inheritance tax should seize everything over 100K inflation and cost of living adjusted. It would encourage children of self-made people to gain real merit themselves while also encouraging philanthropy because the parents aren't just going to want to give their money to the state after they dies.

And again, it doesn't matter what one's parents do. If society is to reward merit than one cannot be permitted to live by the merit of another outside of obvious circumstances like minors, the disabled and the economically disadvantaged. And when I mean economically disadvantaged I mean the guy running a fruit stand in rural sub Saharan Africa. It doesn't matter if you're the best dame businessmen in the world if that's you you're never making it past the fruit stand because the market doesn't exist. And if there's a famine through no fault of your own you do deserve aid from others.

And the reason you deserve aid is two-fold. First I'd a make a moral argument that those who have have a responsibility to help those who are disadvantaged and or suffering through no fault of their own. The second reason is that merited people working to make the world better makes it better for everyone. The second reason is of material self-interest and self-gain. If the some of the most merited people are stuck dying of famine because their society is shit we all lose out on their potential contribution.

But yes, parasitic freeloaders already 'won' anon.

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15765730

>>15765667
>>15765706

see

>>15765726

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>>15765726
just be born rich lmao

>> No.15765738

>>15765726
Just give everyone UBI then. Next question.

>> No.15765739

>>15765636
lol what a faggot
wealthy people usually get rich for this specific reason, to ensure his children, their children and so on would be taken care of

luck of the draw my dude, and you didn't get it
neither did i and that's just how it goes

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15765741

>>15765730
Think about it, you're salting on rich kids not having to work hard in life forever, but you're not complaining about your wife Stacy fucking Chads for free and your daughter(s) fucking nerds for $4000/hr?

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>>15765738

Kinda. Seizing unspent inheritance is still important. As for UBI I'm for it once automation actually takes off but not before. I'd rather strive for more ideal market conditions outside of extreme conditions like the aforementioned fruit salesmen until automation becomes a problem. I do think it will happen, but we're much farther away than the techno-utoptians think. Remember how all the truck drivers were supposed to be on the edge of sectorwide layoffs by 2020?

>>15765739

see >>15765726

You haven't addressed the central point and are likely shitposting.

>>15765741

Have sex

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15765798

>>15765783
>Have sex
Sure but you need to bend over so that I can fuck your ass <3

>> No.15765838

>>15765798

Gladly awoo :3 But only if we switch at some point >-<

>> No.15765861

>>15765633
wagies do depend on others to support yourself. however, wagies also have marketable skills and can choose who to work for on the job market. Neets jump through hoops for peanuts and will waste their lives achieving nothing.

>> No.15766296

>>15765861
I see that you've never actually held a job in your life.

>> No.15766317

>>15765636

>if you were born in a first-world country and you're living comfortably off the infrastructure built by your forefathers, you're a parasite
>if you were born into anything other than the shittiest third-world conditions, you're a parasite

Your reasoning faculties are gay and broken.

>> No.15766327

>>15765511
>What's wrong with being useless?
Fixed that question for you, anon.

>> No.15766328

>>15765511
I just want a fucking job my savings won't hold out for past a couple of months before I have to start selling shit.

>> No.15766348

>>15765511
waking up every morning regretting you are alive

>> No.15766362

>>15765726

Honestly disgusting. If you can't pass your wealth on to your family, what's the point of accumulating wealth in the first place? Income taxes are infinitely more fair than inheritance taxes.

>real merit

Who the hell are you to decide what "real merit" entails? Working yourself to death in a job you hate is no virtue, and anyone who lionizes it has been mentally drawn-and-quartered by the system.

>> No.15767453

>>15765636
If you live in a society you are a parasite.
You need to create everything on your own.
Start farming on a desert island you priviledged fag.

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15767543

>>15765612
When someone achieves financial freedom through his own efforts it's called "retiring", not being a "NEET". Nobody will bust his ass for years trying to achieve it just to degrade himself by calling himself a NEET once he doesn't have to work anymore. NEET has connotations of parasitism and failure at life. Someone who retires from work and studying on his own dime is the opposite of a NEET.

>>15765636
I disagree with this one. You don't harm anybody if you just live off of inherited money. It's the parents property and they have every right to leave it to their sons if they wish so. There's no rational argument against it. It's just jealousy or vague moral platitudes about "fairness".

And if it bothers you that much just think that if the sons are idiots they will eventually lose it all anyways. It happens all the time. And if the sons maintain or increase the wealth they inherited that means that they would have made it anyways (or made a good living) thanks to how their wealthy parents raised them. Achieving wealth is mostly about education, discipline and know-how, the initial amount you start with does have little to do with it.

>> No.15768166

>>15765726
shut up and go back to work goy

>> No.15768215

>>15765861
The only thing that 90% of wagies achieve is making their bosses richer, nothing more.

>> No.15768253

>>15765636
>>15765726
>>15765730
>>15765783
>>15765838
Thou shalt not covet. :)

>> No.15768434

>>15767543
>the initial amount has nothing to do with it

get your facts right, this is complete utter horseshit and any statistic about wealthy people will confirm that