/biz/ - Business & Finance

what are you sperging about lad?

>>15737427
Whats the point? Alts follow BTC

possibly the worst thread i've seen on biz

>>15737654
>>15737672
>>15737685
In all three of those instances, Link was either mooning harder than everything else (second circle), or outright mooning alone against a bleeding market (first and third circle).

And then suddenly BTC decides to make a major move downwards, almost as if someone doesn't like when Link goes on a run.

>>15737739
brainlet lol

>>15737427
I can assert with 69% certainty that this is your first thread. Welcome to biz, but lurk more.

>>15737427
>>15737739
OP is onto something

>>15737749
>>15737753
These are just the major examples I remember off the top of my head.
It's gotten to the point where it's become predictable. Nearly every time Link goes on a run, grampa BTC suddenly awakens from his slumber, shits the bed, and falls down the stairs.

>>15737739
If someone didn't like link it would be MUCH more feasible to crash link than use btc to do it. Just look at the market caps you fucking idiot.

>>15737793
That would mean they first have to have Link.

>>15737427
>427▶>>15737672 >>15737753 >>15737758
>someone doesn't like Link beating the market

The November crash of 2018 was also predicted by Big Dogg crypto a few days prior.

>>15737801
Yes but they can crash it at less cost than buying the stupid amount of btc they would need to do so.

>>15737844
yes but they'd still have to have considerable amounts of Link first

>>15737848
Ok. But if their intention is to crash link its going to cost anyway. Buying link and dumping it hard would cost them far, far less than trying to move btc.

>>15737865
What if they really don't want to help Link at all, in any way?
Getting any amount of Link would be out of the question

>>15737427
>>15737739
You are on the right trail keep it to yourself though nu/biz/ doesn't deserve you OP.

>>15737870
But they're not helping it, they're crashing it. Buying and selling don't always have equal effects depending on how you do it. You can buy without raising the price much and sell the same amount and crash it (and vice versa).

This shouldn't be hard to get. Moving btc would come at inordinate cost and be less effective making it not ideal to hurt link.

>>15737887
But in order to use Link to crash Link, they'd first have to buy the Link.
Which means helping it at first.

If they want to hurt Link without ever helping it even one bit, crashing BTC is the way to do it.
Especially oldfag whales for instance.

>>15737818
2018 dump was due a BCH hard fork and Craig selling their bags. No more speculation

>>15737875

Its almost as if they’re dumping BTC to keep LINK low then using those liquidated funds to buy LINK or something...

NAH that couldn’t be it.

>>15737774
I can vouch for it.

>>15737893
This. To directly crash link you'd need to sell link. Crashing btc is actually easier then crashing link because of how entrenched the whales are in btc already.

I need to get off this board

>>15737893
>>15738028
>>15738084
But why?
Why would anyone want to ‘hurt’ Link?

>>15738114
First they ignore you
then they laugh at you
then they fight you
then you win

The only thing that matters is that Link continues it's bullishness in the Link/btc pairing.

When BTC is $40k, Link will be $15 just based on that alone

>>15737672
BTC follows Link retard. Its been proven

>>15738114
See pic.

Link is quickly shaping up to be the premier project in crypto right now, possibly ushering in a completely new era for crypto with mainstream smart contracts.
And a LOT of oldfag whales are getting increasingly butthurt and jelly about that.

100% there is a correlation. First time in November when LINK was on it's way to finally break the $0.6 ceiling and then suddenly out of fucking no where Bitcoin decides to dump to $3k. Ok once it might be a coincidence. LINK on it's ATH and Bitcoin decides to dump like crazy. And now LINK going back above $2 and Bitcoin decides to absolutely shit the god damn bed and throw some shit out on the street as well. There is certainly some fuckery going on.

>>15738136
Also, remember Vitalik and how he fudded Chainlink in the beginning because of the 32 million ICO?
He had no problem shilling Kyber even though Kyber raised almost double that in their ICO around the same time.
He saw the writing on the wall and got butthurt before anyone else.

>>15738144
Those are the three circles in OP pic alright.
Plus so many more minor ones I can't remember rn.

Many times I just sat there looking at Link go up while everyone else was in the red, thinking "cue BTC shitting itself in 3, 2, .."

>>15738146

LINK will wipe the slate on 90% of the crypto landscape and murder and absorb so many projects. Niche projects like BAT, VPN services, some cloud computing, and transfer layer protocols ETH, Tezos etc will survive, some exchange tokens, and BTC as a grandfatherd store of value.

EVERYTHING else will die and be outmoded over night once Derivatives and staking go live. That’s why it’s butthurt city out there, I bet Vitalik negotiates to keep LINK only on ETH this long it’s why he’s mostly shut up.

It’s going to be a ducking bloodbath soon and everyone knows it at high levels.

>>15738210
based phone poster

>>15737427
It’s almost as if BTC is the king of crypto and whatever it does the market follows. Who would of thought?

>>15738231
Protip: it's not about what happens once the BTC dump starts.
Of course Link will (typically) follow a massive BTC dump, that's the entire idea.

>>15738231

Imagine being so delusional that you think the price of Bitcoin revolves around Chain Stink. Go off yourself OP.

>>15738231
yea except link jumped like 50 cents to over 2 dollars a few days ago BEFORE grandpa shitcoin dropped $2k

>>15738247
It's not as far fetched as you think, see >>15738210 >>15738146 >>15738136

Not to mention the fact that Chainlink has been utterly dominating the market in the past 16 months or so, see pic.
(note that since that pic, Binance Coin and Holo for instance are down 50%, while Chainlink is up 50% so it would be even more striking now)

>>15738210
Imagine being this retarded

>>15738292

Imagine not being literally all in on LINK with every cent you can leverage right now.

>>15738350
this. I've put so much cash into link that I'm living in my car just so I don't have to take any out.

>>15738144
the real flippening will be bitcoin/chainlink

>>15738231
Bitcoin going down slowly, the alts follow except for LINK. Then bitcoin dumps massively and THEN link starts going down.

>>15738350
I have 1k LINK, is this enough to make it? What timeframe?

>>15738396
Ikr, LINK would be a lot better of a store of value since it would actually be backed by something other than just pure hope.

>>15738408
Buy more fren

>>15737893
Are you purposefully being retarded or is this natural?

>>15737654
>>15737672
>>15737685
>>15737749
>>15737753
Hmmm....

>>15738376

Just hang in there fren I know it’s tough.

I have been living stealth monk mode for 12 months buying just enough necessities to keep up appearances so my wife/family doesn’t know.

I wear my shoes and clothes down to bare threads and holes, I’ve bought essentially zero luxury items in 12+ months, I buy coffee at the dollar store (pro tip plenty of stuff at the dollar store is actually pretty good.) I have two cracked molars now one for six months and the other couple weeks ago, I have no intention of getting fixed until the next 6 months plays out, literally stopped talking about the last one, didn’t even tell my wife about this one, even just getting them pulled would be $500 each.

We’ll be rewarded in the end my brother, hold strong.

>>15737427
Relative newfag here.
Is there a difference between LINK BTC, and LINK ETH, and should I be in one or the other, both?
I'm about to pull a rather large trigger, and I want to know my aim is true.
Thank you, you epic bastards.

>>15738408

1K is the suicide stack, 10k is make it, 100K is ridiculous fuck you money.

The FED will be using LINK as part of its FEDNOW payment system by 2024, so that’s the outside maximum. 6-48 months.

Could be tomorrow though, nobody’s sure, market is showing real volatility atm.

>>15738267
based

>>15738459
I don't know what you're not getting.

If you want to hurt Link as much as possible, you're not going to buy any at any point whatsoever, even if it is just for dumping.

>>15738550
Hi fren.
You wanna buy using LINK/PAX. You'll need to convert your funds into PAX first. I think all this can be achieved presuming you are using binance ?

>>15738550
Doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things.
Different pairings will only affect short term movements. If Link is valued at $20 with the Link/btc pairing, it will most likely be valued the same with the eth pairing.

God speed. Welcome to the show.

>>15738777
Checked. Listen to him newfag. I prefer eth as I can stick to coinbase.

>>15738720
>>15738777
That's what I figured.
Much obliged, lads!
Here's to our prosperous future!

>>15738709
Buying and selling ARE NOT EQUAL. You can choose to have impact with one. You could buy 100,000 link and barely increase the price then dump it all in a way that has a big negative effect. This can be done to hurt link at a cost that doesn't even compare to what it would cost to do it with BTC lmao. Look at the market caps and volume for gods sake. You could pound link into the ground twenty times over for the cost of maybe moving BTC down 1%.

>>15738824
That is my inclination. I got into Link around a year ago on ETH. Gonna stick to it. I'm building a homestead. This might help some.
Thanks again, fellas.

>>15738874
Is that what we're seeing? What is it about LINK that it has so many enemies? Who is the opposition, and what is the battle about?
I don't see any other crypto getting so much negative shilling without explanation.

>>15737685
Actually the worst thread

>>15738874
>You could pound link into the ground twenty times over for the cost of maybe moving BTC down 1%.
Buying that kind of volume first would massively pump Chainlink.

If you can even get that kind of volume to begin with, since there's never that much available in the order books.
Of course if you pump the price, the availability will shoot up as well, but then you're helping Chainlink first again.

There are tons of oldfag bitcoin holders that can never dream of owning enough Link to impact its price like they can impact BTC's price.

>>15739009
see >>15738136 >>15738146 >>15738210

>>15739133
I just can't be bothered to explain that water is wet to you. You're going to lose a lot of money in this market.

>>15738592
You're making me horny.

>>15739167
Bye now.

>>15739143
How fucking exciting! Is this what 21st Century warfare looks like? What happens to the old guard? Propaganda media, fiat, politics, education, SOCIAL MEDIA!, etc? Are we witnessing a MAJOR transfer of power and wealth not seen since days of warring Empires?
We win, don't we, lads?

fuck all of you

>>15739281
>no-linker detected

>>15739281
fuck you.

This all falls apart when you realize the whale would need 1.2 billion dollars to do this and could just instead crash LINK by utilizing LINK.

>>15739340
>>15739361
fuck you

The Chainlink black pill
>SN really is SN
>he’s doing it
>70
>630
>bog

>>15739384
Buying enough Link to do that would pump it first.
Plus pots of the old guard have more than enough bitcoin clout to pull this type of shit.

>>15739452
Yes but I could just buy 20,000,000 worth and that would be enough to shit on it for months on end. I could suppress you with a sheer terror of a wall of it is ever supposed to moon, not to mention many whales did buy into LINK because a few actually go on here and shitpost. Even if we are surrounded by poos and niggerscum /biz/ is a hub for off and out there crypto’s. Buying in at .06c would be fucking nothing for a whale at the time of sale. 20M would be a lot easier to crush the price than use BTC on a phenomenal 1.2B.

>>15739491
BuyIng that much would pump it first.

>>15739514
Look at the last year. It’s been a consistent pump, yes it crashed.
Could the link have been accumulated long ago with the intent to crash it later?

>>15739514
Who says they haven’t already bought? You are suggesting that they are only doing this because BTC keeps dumping. What is more likely, a 20M shitpost or a 1.2B shitpost? Occam’s razor. Buying in is artificial inflation, it would eventually drop back down on a correction.

ITT

>>15739589
You’re also here anon
One of us. Welcome!

>>15739514
You're not getting it. You can accumulate in such a way as to not pump the price at all. Play around with buy and sell walls forcing weak hands to sell to you etc... It just takes longer. Then much later you fucking dump it all in one second and crash the price.

>>15739638
>Then much later you fucking dump it all in one second and crash the price.
I feel like this is a shit way to do it, depending on the liquidity you would risk only causing a flash crash and no one would give a fuck

>>15739928
It is still the more likely choice than a boomer making a 1.2b run just for LINK. It would make better sense to buy the stinkies and then crash the price when the coin should be mooning. This way you could stall the moon and cut the actual ATH it could have gone too. It may still rise in price from the strategy but it wouldn’t be as high if it was organic.

>>15737427
>>15737739

LINK INTERNET DEFENSE FORCE (LIDF) IN THE HOUSE!!
LIIIINNKKKCONNNNEEECCCTT

>>15738084
>>15738114
>>15738128
>>15738136
>>15738146

Pay attention closely, this is the chainlink team and their promoters. See the organized collusion in obvious false facts? LOOK GOY, THE PRICE WILL BE X AND IT HAS TO BE, JUST HAS TO BE. They're forgetting the team's inepitude, competitors, anti-monopoly clauses, the current cloud of obscurity and the fact that chainlink has ripped and stolen all of its idea, marketing and is used paid promoters. See the message and how they repeat it over and over. It's obviously paid promotions. Who else would defend a shitcoin so religiously? All the time, constantly. The linker cries in pain as he shits up your board and forces his shitty memes down your throat and drags post quality down. Religions work in similiar ways and it's precisely this that is going to have the SEC kick in the fucking doors of their office. They are a cult and they have paid promoters posting over and over. It's like the DNC and Hillary all over again, they're trying to form groupthink here and I can't believe you guys fell for it. When are you fat faggot assholes going to fuck off from this board? Is a few rupees really mean that much to you to scam innocent NEETs of their hard-earned money. Just post the screenshots of Sirgay paying you already and we can report him to the SEC.

>>15738210
>>15738350
>>15738376

>>DUDE LEVERAGE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE FOR NON-SOLUTION UNSOLVEABLE NON-NECESSARY TECH, DOOODE DOO IT LAMOO
>>bullshit meme photo, no context, no discussion, just a random dumbass nigger post
>>sibos
>>guys i have 700 tokens of shitty scam, please how do i make it thread
>>another link general, we need one every ten minutes!
>>guys my ex/gf/wife found me out, we're broke but have 50k link thread
>>all in, never selling, always HODL thread
>>just risked my entire financial stability on this token, y-you guys should b-buy too right?
>>LINK will reach 1000 END OF YEAR
>>Insider here, just keep buying!
>>Some vague company has increased profits, all thanks to chinklink!
>>some bullshit random thread to keep the link psychosis going
>>just non-stop chainlink posting
>>getting kicked out, have xbox and link, what do thread?

what other paid promotions am I missing?

This thread is solid proof of chainlink shilling from the chainlink team by Sirgay. Hurry up anons, report to the SEC, let's get Sirgay in cuffs already.

>>15738408
>>15738449
>>15738414
>>15738465
>>15738476
>>15738550
>>15738592
>>15738777
>>15738847
check your mental state. you guys are super fucking paranoid and completely dellusional. there's no one "shadow fudding" you retards. every day, there are 15 fucking chainlink threads on the catalogue. every day for years, you guys constantly spammed the fuck out of this board is some delusional sense of groupthink. you really think you dont accumulate enemies when you shit on a board so hard and gobble every little thing some fucking nobody does. you forced promoted a celebrity now take the bad press motherfuckers. linkers are well known for being sub 60 iq and plagued with mental problems as they cling to their shiny shit-stained internet tokens. it's well known that the chainlink team is an expert at marketing at that's it. that's all it is. hype marketing for a non-problem with a non-solution that can't be figured out. then they claim that we are the paranoid ones about their obnoxious behavior and shit token. no one cares about your non-progress and we laugh at your dumps and for trusting a fat-russian national with a known past of big busts in non-existant cryptos. sure, next week and next week. keep following the bread crumbs. where is your $10 september? or 1000 eoy? you guys are scammers.

>>15739182
>>15739207
>>15739340
>>15739361
>>15739429
>>He walks into your room, belt buckle undone with mcdonalds grease glistening his hairy chest
>>He loosely flings off his daily steve jobs plaid shirt
>>You brace yourself uncomfortable, the binds keeping you shackled spread eagled on the floor

"yes master, nulinkers deserve death. they are unenlightened."

He smiles.

He slowly walks over to you.

"And what do you say to the deceivers?"

"You'll never buy sub one dollar again! Nice try, didn't read, not selling! been holding for 700+ days. imma just keep buying like the dumb dipshit pig i am."

He assumes the position now, a chair on top of your bare naked chest. He grunts and let out a massive fart.

"That's right... I've been holding it for 700,000 blocks, it's nice and hot and stinky..." He trails off, a distant look in his eyes as he glances and looks at all the chainlink posters in the room.

He grunts and out comes, a fat nasty shit on your chest.

"Another 700k, dumped. Take it in your GPI."

"Thank you master, partnership confirmed. To the moon!"

>>15740028
>>15740042
>>15740054
>>15740065
>>15740075
dilate you mentally ill cocksucker

>>15740028
>>15740042
>>15740054
>>15740065
>>15740075
Yikes.

>>15739638
>You can accumulate in such a way as to not pump the price at all
That's just not true.
Spreading out the buys will just create a constant buy pressure, meaning any additional buys will boost the price.

>>15737943
Hmmm, nah it’s not.

>>15737427
OP, that's called: Someone saw an opportunity to Sell High, and did

>>15740005
>It is still the more likely choice than a boomer making a 1.2b run just for LINK.
They could just be buying back lower and break just about even like the whales they are.
Fact is this shit is uncanny, and there's plenty of direct proof of old-guard whales butthurt about Chainlink.

>>15739928
Correct. A very interesting occurrence that only seems to happen with Link, there are no panic sellers. Brutal crash dumping 2 Million stinkies in a couple of minutes into your own buy walls - nobody gives a shit. Bleeding it over a month - no uptick in selling action. Combining both - market slowly buys the dips and sells the local tops.

No idea why. Most close explanation would be that the majority of holders, including the ones that try to coerce holders into selling bought at a similar low points. Other more esoteric explanation, the link marine shit narrative worked. Either way this would mean a long dragged out sideway with local tops and bottoms. No moon, no dump

>>15740399
>No moon, no dump
Link has tons moon in it, and it's proven it abundantly.
Its meteoric rise through the CMC ranks in the past year would be the equivalent of a 500x gainer or something in the late 2017 bullrun.
And that's just the start of it.

>>15740075
It's quite telling that you anti Linkers never have an actual reason not to invest.
"NUH-UH! YOU FAGGOTS!" is hardly convincing, kike (always with the faggot fecal fetish too!)
You've inspired me to purchase another $1000 on top of what I'm in for already.
You only catch flak when you're over the target!
THANK YOU, SHILLS!

>>15740065
Still no actual argument? Hmmmmm...

>>15740042
>>15740054
You're trying awful hard. However, for some strange reason, I find it very hard to believe you care this much about MY money?
You glow more than anyone "shilling" for Link.
Thanks again!

>>15740435
Not talking about the past. I mean the near future like the next 12 months. I get the impression that the market maker bought similar to most holders between 30 and 90 cents and the lack of panic sells to grow his market influence gives him three options. Get out and leave the market again to the stinkies, which would be similar to a lose; drag shit out and hope to bore people into selling which would be a win; or violently moon it to attract weaker hands which could translate into big gains but also high risk

>>15740529
I think you're overthinking this way too much.
All successful coins still have really early investors.

Again, the best way to hurt LINK is a 20-100m stack of decimating organic ATHs. ATH drives speculations in the future, you can suppress it by dumping and hurting the longevity of the coin. It’s 1/10 of what you would need to move what we saw these past few days of BTC, a 1.2B dump.

>>15740601
The only thing that makes sense is that people manipulate the price the accumulate more LINK. If Bitcoin whales were fearful of LINK then it's because they know it's the next big thing. They would know that it's strong enough that they wouldn't be able to kill it - they'd only try to accumulate more.

Anyone trying to "kill" LINK through price action is fucking retarded.

>>15740653
This I agree with. Chain link is a token, security paper. The only other option is just pure spite from a billionaire and I don’t think that’s likely. Accumulating is the only thing that makes sense, though there are easier ways to do it than dumping BTC.

>>15740601
But that doesn't seem to work for link do to the lack of supply on the sell side and a more or less stable demand on the buy side. For this to work, the hobby mm must somehow boost demand and that wouldn't be a guarantee that it would boost the supply on the sell side. Extremely high risk play. Would make more sense to play this move on btc

>>15740681
>The only other option is just pure spite from a billionaire and I don’t think that’s likely.
See >>15738136
and >>15738146

>>15738231
> would of
would have.

>>15742051
Faggot

>>15737893
>But in order to use Link to crash Link, they'd first have to buy the Link.
>Which means helping it at first.
Jesus retard. Buy, pump price, sell, dump price. What have a whole lot of sites been spruiking about link? Oh yeah it is a pnd. Idiot.

>>15738210
is 4k link enough to make it?

>>15742398
nah, people who say "would of" are gay

>>15738592
>FEDNOW payment system
They should have called it FEDLINK like all the others

>>15738210
based as fuck, you also passed the pons asinorum of understanding which non-Ethereum smart contract platforms will pass through the eye of the needle.

t. 2.5x future ridiculous fuck-you-money anon

>>15737427
bumping this shit. stay hard LINKies
>https://vocaroo.com/i/s18AjfUgNu2S

>>15737427
eth dropped from 12 to 6 you are all gonna be tested with your hands when we pump to 20 dollars and if you sell that time thinking it will dump it is not gonna dump.So please listen to me so many amateurs got rekt with ethereum.Dont fucking sell unless you need the money.So many people got destroyed when eth didnt dump.

>>15738250
This I fucking wish these faggots would actually look a the fuck charts before they spout of like fucking retards

link at 1.666 LOL

>>15743027
LAUGHING OUT LOUD

>>15743884
Shut the front door.

>>15743884
LMAO!

>>15737427
What website are you using? That's a nice clean chart.

>>15743027
I remember when I craved for the price to be above $1.5. Now it is and it's all so tiresome. Never selling.

>>15744071
btc needs to move up before link does jack shit now. i find it amusing that it just sits at 1.666

>>15744139
I have all the time in the world, a stable job, no debt and a 6 figures stack I add to regularly. I'll be okay.

>>15742893
You some kinda dump scientist?

>>15744248
i wont be.

>>15744272
You will if you are patient.

>>15744288
hopefully

>>15743884
Rothschild? Bogdanoff?

>>15742865
>vocaroo
truly a masterpiece

>>15742865
Masterpiece

>>15737427
If Link moves + 10-20%
then short BTC x 100