/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15738021
i think you can pretty much short anything champ

If you became gay you will have alot of sex, guaranteed

Female hypergamy will only get worse

>>15738021
Retard, this shit is going to the moon

>>15738021
the meme here is that men chose not to have sex because the female population has fucking lost it with their non traditionalist attitudes and degeneracy. all we want is proper wife, but they don't exist anymore thanks to (((them)))

wrong, the bubble was monogamy and men being able to find mates, which was a result of being encouraged to get married and to do so at an early age
prior to what until recently were contemporary western norms, which emerged only relatively recently as far as man kind goes, only a small fraction of men had sex with the majority of women. the rest of men went without.

the bubble was thinking you could get laid. it popped.

i just wanted to find a traditional girl

all the girls i've met expect you to make a ton of cash, suppirt them [ be a "man" ], put up with their degenerate behaviour and ignore their questionable dating/employment history

Im thinking of heading to europe to find a nice traditional girl but i've spoken to some slavs who say its more of the same on the other side of the pond as well...

>>15738068
Unfortunately this.

Women are garbage and will continue being garbage so long as men are pussies who allow (((them))) to rule over us.

The current behaviour of women is a massive shit test to get men to fight back against the system and put them in their rightful place as slaves. We are failing the test because we are cucks that worship them. It’s really pathetic.

>>15738068
> Men chose not to have sex
I and a lot of other men would do anything to have sex, it's just that that they're all on Tinder geting pumped by some chad every night.

>>15738021
Yea

>>15738220
sex without love is just a degenerate activity like gambling. these hoes don't understand that.

>>15738170
>all the girls i've met expect you to make a ton of cash, suppirt them [ be a "man"],

It’s like they expect you to have already made it by 25 so you can drop hundreds everytime you go to dinner. I know so few women who are not like this, and they were all scooped up in high school or freshman year of college. I’m hanging out with a couple tonight that have been together since early in high school, she is so cute and redpilled and down to earth it’s unreal, but then I remember she is from a rural part of the south. If her husband died I would marry her in a second. Great aryan face too.

The spoiled ones that take you when poor still expect you to do everything for them.

GOD i fucking HATE women!!!

and NIGGERS

>>15738269
have sex

>>15738249
why dont poor people just buy more money?

>>15738021
Do people ever think there is more to life than sex? After two degenerate girlfriends and dating many more degenerate women I'd just like to be alone and trade. I'm pretty degen myself but these girls would try to get in open relationships or have lots of debt/unsettling life stories they don't hide etc.

>>15738068
>the meme here is that men chose not to have sex because the female population has fucking lost it

Found the cope.

There are no girls that still have their shit together?

Of course there are. They just don't want to have sex with you.

Loser.

Adapt or die.

>>15738021
> Female

>>15738319
>adapting to matriarchal Jew society

What a massive cuck you are

Why do desperate males who have disdain for degeneracy wonder why women arent interested in having premarital sex with them? Pick a fucking lifestyle and stick with it

>>15738330

Adapting and overcoming you is too easy.

Enjoy!

>>15738152
I see this quoted with no facts ever to back this up. Is this just another shareblue shill?

>>15738338
ok i pick a traditional life style with normal wife that havent had a 100 dicks inside her

>>15738319
actually i stopped looking, it's too much of a waste of energy to find get to know someone, vetting them, understanding their true intentions, then deciding if they are worthy of me while keeping a straight face and acting like a normie. i am convinced she will find me, and not the other way around. it's all so tiring to put up with societies fake expectations.

>>15738311
There's really not. We have one purpose on earth, to cum inside women. More and more men are being denied that now, I think something bad is gonna happen

>>15738021
The catch here is
>female sex partners
Faggots lately are on a rise

>>15738269
Based

>>15738363
let's just say lot's of niggers, and jews might die because it was the jew that started all of this in the 70s and 80s to control the 90s and ruin life as it was through the 2000s

>>15738021
>Implying sex wasn't being controlled by forcing artificial scarcity of sex using monogamy

We are finally returning towards the true human norm of mono-relationship combine with multi-sexual.
Anyone who is against this is working for (((them))) wanting to control peoples access to sex with ((marriage fees))

>>15738339
Being a bitch is not adapting retard

>>15738363
would the ideal society be chad 10's get both 9s and 10s women (yes chad gets 2 women). Then 9 men get 8 women, 8s get 7s, and so forth. 1s still get none. This seems to satisfy most people. Chads still gets multiple women. Women get to date up. And most people in society get sex. Without the spread of those nasty STDs.

>>15738409
Nailed it.

Women are polygamous by nature. They excitedly share the top men even if it's not good for society in the long term.

All men not on the receiving end cope, redirect hatred towards minorities, or drug themselves to death.

Darwin.

>>15738358

Glad you stopped copping and admitted to the actual problem.

You miss every shot you don't take.

Life is not fair.

I ran some simulations. Shorting male virginity is more or less shorting gaming companies

>>15738363
If you look at history many men derived purpose from religion so I'd disagree. Although we do have a problem because now the only thing to get value out of life besides cumming and taking drugs is rapidly declining.

>>15738343
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/just-few-men-controlled-reproduction-prehistory-and-dominate-world-020821
women naturally crave powerful men
not future mass homicide perpetrators like you sexless incels

>>15738422
you get it wrong at the lower end though: the 2 and 1 men would share the 1 women; a bite into the sour apple, but leaving anybody unsatisfied won't work for a longer time.

>>15738170
Got a girl I've gone a date with who is cute and we get along. Works full time and wants to improve her lot in life. We pay our own way on dates and are looking to get to know each other as friends before pursuing anything else.

Went on one date where she brought coupons and we discussed how sales at clothing stores tend to not really be sales. She's also very kind and polite, shares quite a few values with me.

I enjoy her company and feel comfortable around her, yet want to bang some hot girls while we're rolling on Molly.
Went on a date with one a couple months back, but just stuttered and eventually she found someone else. Ran into her later on and I could barely talk to her. She was the last reason I had a wet dream. Cute and hot rolled up into one.

>t. Haven't had sex in almost 7 years and haven't jizzed in 40 days.

>>15738448
>>15738480
I've never understood how alleged men can take so much enjoyment in making fun of other anons for not getting laid. Before the incel accusations start flying in, I've gotten laid a ton, and I'm still able to sympathize with my fellow man who hasn't been so lucky. The female problem affects all of us, even the Chads.

I don't know if you're all actually seething roasties, kikes or just kikes in spirit, but either way, you'll hang with the other undesirables when the time comes.

>>15738643
Based

>>15738021
Probably nothing to short here.
Pic very much related. 40-60% is realistic in the future in my opinion. Then there will be a big bang

>>15738643
>I've never understood how alleged men can take so much enjoyment in making fun of other anons for not getting laid.

Looks like someone wants to shoot the messenger.

Adapt (improve yourself: lift, dress better, eat better, make more $$$ by educating yourself in the right areas, take risks) or Die.

This is capitalism you dweeb.

>you'll hang with the other undesirables when the time comes.

LOL.

I carry concealed. Don't miss.

>>15738480
what do you consider alpha? looks? money? I may be a 6/7 looker, but I am in the top 1% in terms of income/wealth, and i am sitting on the sidelines right now because of all this mess in society

>>15738643
Chalk it up to the natural response to the unclean/defective. Sexless men are perceived defective at primitive biological and social levels.

>>15738702
Women can smell desperation. It disgusts them.

>>15738692
>shoot the messenger
>disingenuous the post (i'm just trying to help really!!!)
kike confirmed

>I carry concealed. Don't miss.
I won't ;)

>>15738710
>Women can smell desperation
Ask how I know you're a virgin

>>15738319
>Adapt or die.
More like die no matter what you do.

>>15738448
Imagine being such a cuck that you actually let women chose and have power over us and not force them into Mongomey.

You are a loser Jew who thinks matriarchy is natural law. Under normal natural law men are the ones in power and men are the ones who rule over women not the other way around. Women depend on men for survival and have no option of choosing, because they have to pair up with a man in order to survive. Human women are not like other creatures on Earth whom are able to be naturally hypergamous like Deer or gorilla’s because of their ability to survive on their own without men. The nuclear family is needed for women to survive. They can’t take care of themselves or their offspring. They will simply die without us.

What we have nowadays is a perversion of nature. This perversion of nature is done under the hands of international Jewry. Without the artificial enabling of women under the dysgenic Jewish society we’d return to a eugenic patriarchal society. Under today’s Jew society men are still needed for women’s survival but instead of the need for pairbonding men nowadays work as a collective force that provides society with everything it needs for women to survive. In the past women needed to pair with their equal and be a house mother in order to partake in the productions of man, their only other choice back then was the whore house. Cuck boomers gave away our control of women to the Jews and now women can choose some worthless job working for Jews instead while still enjoying what man has to offfer without the need of pairbonding to a single man. She is free. Thanks to sexual liberation and feminism both Jewish movements in order to destroy the white nuclear family.

If men stopped being cucks and simply asserted themselves and stopped feeding the Jewish system that seeks their destruction. Women would have to return to mongomey in order to survive again. Without men’s labour women can’t survive.

>>15738068
mgtow gigacope

>>15738049
but you'd still be a virgin according to the definition in OP

>>15738710
Nah that's bullshit, and anyone who even remotely understands the current situation knows that. The mooning incel chart in the OP doesn't lie, and such a large portion of men did not become defective in such a short period of time. The environment is fucked, and as a result, plenty of decent guys aren't getting laid.

>>15738793
I should also add without our labour Jews can’t survive also.

>>15738793
>Women depend on men for survival
and men depend on women for procreation, which is the survival of the soul/lineage

you are fucking retarded bro, and the "have sex" meme was made for people exactly like you: frustrated, clearly unable to get it and obsessed with a "nature" that would filter out losers like you before anyone else.

have sex.

>>15738692
Found the fucking boomer lmao.

>>15738818
Defectiveness is a production of environment and another way of saying reproductive fitness. All sort of circular really. Still true though.

Not a bubble.
Dickpic technology changed everything.
Girls can screen for big cock now.
If you have a little wee-wee you're not reproducing.

>>15738861
Yes men depend on women for procreation. That was not my point you brainlet. My point was that men have the power under normal natural law and women had to adapt to them. Not the other way around you god dam faggot Jew cuck

>>15738967
based

>>15738967
If by natural law you mean your pretend fantasies, ok sure.

>>15738068
>men chose not to have sex

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

FUCKING COPE. Incels would fucking let some pajeet have their other kidney if it 100% meant they were having sex with a decent woman. KEEP COPING.

>>15738480
it's fucking over...all men who are not having sex are literally worthless and completely disposable, we should be grateful to society for letting us live...i don't know how to feel about this...even the worst whores are worth 10000x more than incels...

>>15738967
>That was not my point you brainlet
you're not getting my point: there is survival of the individual and survival of the lineage.
an actual man would do the MANLY thing in life and put his family, lineage, tradition BEFORE HIMSELF. you, however, are not a real man: you put individual progress over shared progress of your kin, which is why you see no value in lineage and put individual over everything else

>My point was that men have the power under normal natural law
fucking bullshit.
in every primate society, women are being put above everything else instinctively. this is not "unfair" or "unnatural", but simple game theory derived from tribal nature:

when two tribes compete, with one not putting female survival over men survival, then that tribe will automatically die out in the long run. imagine a harsh winter during which 50% of the population would die: a tribe that protects women no matter what will have WAY more offspring (because a few strong men can repopulate everything), a """""fair"""""" tribe that doesn't protect based on gender will be smaller in the coming years and fade.

tl;dr : you don't even seem to grasp ELEMENTAL game theory. you might want to go a little easy on calling others brainlet, incel.

>>15738883
Taken to an extreme, if one man somehow controlled 100% of the pussy supply, would all other men be considered defectives according to you? Would the reaction we see in this thread to men who aren't getting laid still be appropriate?

Maybe according to your (as you said, circular, and I'll add, very dumb and useless) definition, yes, but this isn't useful. The environment isn't a monolith and it isn't the single source of truth. And a chart like the OP doesn't spell good news for anybody.

half of the posts in this thread are shills. think about it. if you were so alpha, that you got laid all the time, would you actually be spending that much time in online forums such butthurt that some people aren't getting laid?

>>15738692
Such a fucking retarded fucking boomer. Literally puts a space between every sentence because he thinks his words are so important. Shut the fuck up, fucking kike slave

recently started seeing a somewhat traditional virgin cutie with a thicc ass. How do I not fuck this up?

>>15739058
Define "controlled".
If at the force of a gun, then no.
If due to female choice, then yes.

>>15739117
Have friends
Be funny
Don't be creepy
Don't be needy
Ask her out

>>15738861
>and men depend on women for procreation

synthetic wombs in less than 10 years lmao stay mad fucking cuck

>>15739119
>women controlling the sexual marketplace is the natural state of man
The natural state of man sees women on the sideline for men to use as means to their ends. This is how it worked 100 years ago, 500 years ago, 5000 years ago, 50,000 years ago.

>>15739119
Makes exactly zero difference, and in either case, the end game is the same: the rest of the men band together and stab the fucker to death.

>>15739077
This
The whole point of anonymity is to hide my ugly omega face. Chads have absolutely no reason to come here when they could go on instagram and get 100k likes for posting the same things, and even beta males can go to reddit for upvotes.

>>15738480
Your studies are coming from pic related's work. You are a faggot cuck like him.

>>15739149
And until recently a lot more sex was nonconsensual. Rape is generally frowned upon these days. But technically there is nothing stopping you, except society, police, the law, and your morals. So uh go get em champ.

>>15739149
no. reproductive period for females: 9 months + ~ 1.5 years (until the child can walk around and be independent enough to not starve) = ~2.5 years
reproductive period for men: seconds to minutes.

this is the only goddamn variable that truly matters in nature. if a tribe with 50 women and 50 men has 40 men die and 0 zero women, that tribe will repopulate and regain an equilibrium of sexes again in very few generations.
a tribe that loses 50% of each will simply become smaller and filter itself out by losing territory, by being outgrown by tribes that DO put wombs before sperm.

why do you incels all believe that "women and children first" is """""unnatural"""""" when it is literally INSTINCT? when it is clearly branded into our minds as deeply, rooted at the very basis of what is needed for survival just like "don't hold your breath" and "eat when hungry"?
100% delusion

>>15738480
This

>>15739183
Absolute cringe giga-tier incel genetic trash cope

>>15739006
/thread

most of the thread can simply be summarized with this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YznVpfR_sho

>>15738021
>zero female sex partners
Gays on the rise then?

>>15738021
source?

>>15739185
Alright see this post is mutually exclusive with you last post here >>15739119 In the first post you're saying that even in a hypothetical society where one man is in control and forces women to sleep with him, the fact that he's forcing them means he's not the alpha. In your second post you're saying that throughout history rape was acceptable but you're only not an alpha now if you rape because society deems it unacceptable. So either society determines what's alpha or what's alpha is a natural determination that transcends social attitudes. It can't be both. IE, either forcing women to sleep with you is always not alpha and all of human history there were no alphas until very recently, or society determines what's alpha and a man who could hypothetically force all women to sleep with him is the ultimate alpha.

>>15739199
cont.: all the confusion you guys have comes from you not being able to properly distinguish between the NATURAL urge to dominate a woman and the also (!!!!) NATURAL state of wombs being way way way less expendable than sperm.

>>15739247
stay sexless bruh

>>15739058
No, you see, in his mind the system is only broken when he personally is no longer getting pussy.

>>15739199
>>15739255
You're looking at this too simply, tribes don't exist in a vacuum. Ancient Rome had a problem where they had a bunch of men and no women so what did they do? Rape of the Sabines, they invited a tribe over that had less men but more women and they simply took the women. A single woman might be more valuable than a single man ceterus paribus, but why the fuck would you look at it ceterus paribus?

>>15739271
I smash on Tinder enough to satisfy myself, you're just salty that you're wrong bro

>>15739055
>calls people "incel"
>favors a matriarchal hierarchy
found the "incel" who will actually never get laid

>>15739314
>tribes
>ancient rome
i'm talking about 200.000 BC, mate. and the example you posted doesn't contradict anything i have said. you simply re-stated that wombs are less expendable than sperm.

>>15739055
>you're not getting my point: there is survival of the individual and survival of the lineage.
an actual man would do the MANLY thing in life and put his family, lineage, tradition BEFORE HIMSELF. you, however, are not a real man: you put individual progress over shared progress of your kin, which is why you see no value in lineage and put individual over everything else

Yes I agree with this I said nothing against this. I to belive in tribalism and doing what’s best as a collective for the mutual genetic interests of ensuring the survival and evolution of our people.

>fucking bullshit. in every primate society, women are being put above everything else instinctively. this is not "unfair" or "unnatural", but simple game theory derived from tribal nature:

Just because men choose to defend their women’s survival over themselves doesn’t mean that women are in charge of our societies and have power over us. Men have always been the rulers of our society and women always kept on a lease. If a woman did not do what was demanded of her she was beaten, slut shamed, outcasted or sent to the whore house.

We protected our women because we understand their importance in reproduction. We understand the chaos a society with more men then women would bring. Does protecting children mean that children are in power over us? Dumbass.

>>15739328
i don't favor anything, i simply explain what NATURE favors you goddamn retard.

i don't have to *like* the laws of nature, i don't have to rejoice and be happy about them, i just have to know and use them for my advantage.

>>15738021
all datas are manipulated and used as indicators for our elites, we are going back to 2007/2008 lvls very fast because the new economic crisis is going to be hardcore tier.

>>15739210
Keep worshipping some random internet ass, Cuck

>>15739341

Didn’t green text properly. fixed

>you're not getting my point: there is survival of the individual and survival of the lineage. an actual man would do the MANLY thing in life and put his family, lineage, tradition BEFORE HIMSELF. you, however, are not a real man: you put individual progress over shared progress of your kin, which is why you see no value in lineage and put individual over everything else

Yes I agree with this I said nothing against this. I to belive in tribalism and doing what’s best as a collective for the mutual genetic interests of ensuring the survival and evolution of our people.

>fucking bullshit. in every primate society, women are being put above everything else instinctively. this is not "unfair" or "unnatural", but simple game theory derived from tribal nature:

Just because men choose to defend their women’s survival over themselves doesn’t mean that women are in charge of our societies and have power over us. Men have always been the rulers of our society and women always kept on a lease. If a woman did not do what was demanded of her she was beaten, slut shamed, outcasted or sent to the whore house.

We protected our women because we understand their importance in reproduction. We understand the chaos a society with more men then women would bring. Does protecting children mean that children are in power over us? Dumbass.

>>15739341
>Just because men choose to defend their women’s survival over themselves doesn’t mean that women are in charge of our societies and have power over us. Men have always been the rulers of our society and women always kept on a lease. If a woman did not do what was demanded of her she was beaten, slut shamed, outcasted or sent to the whore house.

how fucking stupid are you? the main point of frustration from most men is that the opposite of what you wrote is happening right now. men pay all the taxes, build everything, but women are now getting into positions of power and abusing it wholesale. what the fuck? where the fuck have you been you stupid fucking retard. everyone on /biz/ knows women will be women and that is all they will ever be. it's the fact that now women are not only worthless whores, but a man (((shouldn't expect anything else))). they're now essentially able to live unchecked, which means they are destroying society and fags like you are enabling it. fuck off, wanna be Socrates, stupid fucking cunt

>>15739350
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>>15739331
You 200,000 years ago the dynamics are the same. Sperm is more expendable than wombs but sperm on its own can acquire an exponential number of wombs. You're measuring a pound of gold against a pound of iron that can find you more gold.

>>15739341
>Just because men choose to defend their women’s survival over themselves doesn’t mean that women are in charge of our societies and have power over us.

yes, all true. and not contradicting anything i've said as i never made statements about "who rules society" (completely different from "how did we survive for 99% of our history").
i'd like to modify your statement: it's not that "men are in charge of societies", it's that "very very very few men are in charge". when survival was on the line, who do you think made sure that betas would be the first ones to go? where do you think female excitement for male castration (why they all love trannies and are super super tolerant towards feminization of men) comes from? those are just echoes of the hundreds of thousands of years that we went through before crops came along and we stopped being nomadic.

>Does protecting children mean that children are in power over us? Dumbass.
again. stop with the "hurrr you're not smart" insults, your posts are not exactly flattering you in that capacity.
about that last quote: yes, in a sense it does mean that. the second you listen to your instinct, you are a SLAVE to it. if a cute, round baby face makes you protect it, that INSTINCT (not the child itself via its own will, but the natural process) does have tremendous power over you.
i will stop responding to anything you say now, because quite frankly you are not worthy my time. i would put you at a solid 100-115 IQ, you are 100% normie tier.

>>15738068
>men chosen not to
muh sides. i think it’s the other way around

>>15739378
I completely agree with everything you said bro. That is my point for everything I have said. We live in a society that is an inversion of nature.

I think you thought I was somebody else or misinterpreted what I was trying to say.

>>15739403
>Sperm is more expendable than wombs but sperm on its own can acquire an exponential number of wombs

yes and i also already mentioned that. i said that few men can repopulate everything. what is your goddamn point? sperm is expendable, HENCE MEN COMPETE STRONGLY FOR THE SPOT.
wombs = not expendable hence they all get pregnant

>>15739395
Nope, you're just a faggot (probably jewish) cuck. People like you disgust me

>>15739434
alright i was a sperg there but glad to see you're not retarded. hard to tell when everyone is anon sometimes. fucking whores need to be brought to heel. i genuinely dont give a fuck about whether or not certain men are getting laid. what i care about is keeping females in check (they're all fucking lousy, just to various degree) so that we can continue on Western Civilization and leave behind a better world for all our descendants.

women are women and that is all they will ever be

>>15739455
Okay so to go back to the original post I commented on then, you'd agree with me that the natural state of man sees women on the sideline for men to use as means to their ends and that women controlling the sexual marketplace is a markedly post-modern, unnatural state that will not last.

>>15739477
yes i agree with all that.
there is a NATURAL urge to dominate women completely, and in order to FULFILL it, you will have to compete and dominate other men, because your sperm is expendable and there is therefore no NATURAL process by which it would automatically be needed.

read >>15739255

>>15739492
Okay, because I said that word-for-word here >>15739149 and you replied to me by saying "no" here >>15739199

>>15738068

COPE

Three things here:

1. A few Chads on Tinder are servicing multiple women.

2. Most women under the age of 30 are bi or lesbian now and prefer to fuck/date other women when they’re not fucking Chad.

3. The bottom 27% is so fucking socially retarded and cucked/self loathing they’ve rendered themselves unfuckable and identify as incels.

>>15739477
>>15739492
oh sorry, no i didn't read your entire post: i do NOT agree with the state being "unnatural", as there is no such thing.
the term nature in and of itself is undefinable and therefore meaningless.
in a sense, nuclear reactors are "natural", as are smartphones, as they would all spring into existence on other planets etc. aswell if and when a species simply became intelligent enough to build them.
you fags are all just seeking excuses because you can't fulfill your natural urge to dominate women and you all confuse the URGE with the STATE.

just because there is a natural urge to dominate doesn't mean that all these urges must always have been fulfilled. it just means men needed the incentive for our survival, not that everyone had that incentive bear fruit.

>>15738692
boomers always carry
> kerchow

LOL.

>>15739407
Yes they have power over us in an instinctive level. Same with children. Real men whom are one with nature do whatever is best as to ensure the future prosperity of their bloodlines/society. Anybody can agree with that. It’s what every creature on Earth struggles for, the propagation and evolution of their own. It’s natural law

What I was trying to explain in my previous posts was that under normal natural law men are the ones with true power meaning we dictate the course of civilization. That we keep women on a tight lease to only do what we demand of them in accordance to our interests in ensuring the continued evolution of our people. That our current society what is an inversion of nature and is dysgenic. When women have true societal power over us that societies crumble.

Again I get that we are instinctive, but again that does not mean they have true power over us. Men are the ones who kept women in their place for eons, only recently have we lost our masculine spirit and allowed our women to be on equal footing with us.

>>15739594
ok i actually do agree with basically everything here.
>only recently have we lost our masculine spirit and allowed our women to be on equal footing with us.
in a sense "we" haven't, the very same exact process has just become way more extreme.
it used to be that maybe 1 in 10 males dominated their local group - now we have global elites that reprogram everyone to their liking, the numbers are more like 1 in 100.000.000 now.
on an abstract level it is the same thing, though: extremely few men steer everything still and basically turned everyone below "part of the few ruling families"-level into beta-males to further their own agenda.

this is getting off-topic now, but that is how i see it: same story of select males dominating everything. the slave pen's that we live in have females ARTIFICIALLY put higher than they should, not as an "unnatural" process but to weaken the males inside the slave pens that might otherwise progress further.
it's a tool by insanely powerful men to weaken potential competitors and therefore "natural" in my book.

>>15738068
>women choose to have sex with alpha men
>its da joos fault
idiot

sage

>>15739532
A natural state is one in which urges, both baser and more complex, are generally fulfilled. We live in an unnatural state because significant sections of the population are not fulfilling either. The logical conclusion to an unnatural state is a masculine reckoning where the unnatural state of things is disrupted back into a more natural one. A natural state being one in which urges are generally fulfilled is logically one in which men are fulfilling their urge to dominate women. You're pulling some real shitty sophistry with the whole "DURRR EVERYTING IS NATURAL HAHA" bullshit

>>15739700
...it's the feminists fault

but also, I never noticed this graph doesn't include male partners. So all the gays are also incel virgins.

>>15739711
>A natural state is one in which urges, both baser and more complex, are generally fulfilled.
no. sorry, but completely false.
very simple example: we all agree that very few men dominate, but ALL men feel the urge to dominate.
hence by definition, most of these urges are unfulfilled in a NATURAL state.

>>15739219
kek, this

if they could just go out and try to have sex, that would be great

>>15738021
Damn that's rough. Smartphones getting every normal person online and in dating services really fucked things up

>>15739741
I suppose I should say "perceive to have the opportunity to fulfill their urges". 10,000 years ago you might not be able to dominate your tribe because it is owned space but you can dominate simply be leaving the owned space of your tribe and finding free space. There was simple opportunity that any man could contend with, which obviously does not exist anymore because there is no more free space, it is all owned. Now you could say "well you could dominate owned space if you were smart enough", but that sort of misses the point because it's a hypothetical. All of our space is owned and our environment is simply too complex for a significant portion of men to feel they have the opportunity to fulfill their urges.

>>15738170

The expectation that you make a ton of cash WAS the "traditional" part, in the past it was even more upfront and called a dowry. The Disney "true love" bullshit is the non-tradition.

>>15739818
sorry dude, but that is just "beta-male defeatism": the post.
work out, get a better haircut and better clothes, work on your social skills, dominate your LOCAL surroundings and you'll have all your urges fulfilled.
i'm done with this thread. have sex, lol

>>15739530

This. It's too easy for even average women to get Chad dick now so why wouldn't they behave exactly like this?

>>15739902
Everything else is just cope, especially the muh jews and muh porn copes.

>>15739650
Yep you are absolutely correct. Everything is done to advance the ruling elite. They are of a different blood then us and is reason why they promote dysgenics to us and flood our countries with immigrants in an effort to destroy us. The crazy thing is these so called dominating males or “alphas” that rule over us as global elites are not masculine or desirable in the genetic sense. They have never built a working society of their own and are weak, ugly and prone to many diseases and conditions like schizophrenia. Their only power is that they are the most tribal and are extremely cunning and understand how to subvert and parasite off people.

If men started doing what’s best for themselves and took back our societies from these parasites all our problems would be solved. It’s that easy, we literally just have to become men again and fight. I fear however we are too weak minded and seem to be incapable of rising above this mind parasite.

I suppose if we cannot adapt to it we die and that’s natural law. “Adapt or die” It’d just be such a shame however if the best civilization building race died because of pic related. It would be the most pathetic thing ever. Our ancestors are rolling in their graves that these freaks have power over us and how we have become extreme tolerant pussies towards everything that is pathological to the health of our race. It angers me that these people rule over us. their power is not even true power it’s just an illusion. The reality is they are weak and are very few in numbers and could eailsy be conquered. If they were strong Uber humans I wouldn’t feel as much hatred as I do now.

The redpill is they call themselves god’s chosen because they believe they are the most fit in the natural sense to conquer all the human races and rule over us. Maybe they are right. They play a dangerous game however. If peope wake up in large enough numbers they are done.

>>15739882
Where did I say "I" there you stupid nigger? I have a better job than like 95% of my peers, I have a good group of friends I've known since childhood who I do things with weekly, I'm /fit/, I have fun hobbies I enjoy like fishing and surfing, and I have no problem using Tinder to fuck. If you don't think the fact that 30% of men and rising can't get laid is a problem that's going to have gigantic, and I mean gigantic, complications down the line than you're crazy. The answer your offering to them is basically "lol get used to it" and that's not what history tells us is going to happen. These people aren't going to disappear and building a theory that acts like they will is just flat out wrong. This shit is going to get way worse because midwits like you think these retards are just going to magically figure it out.

>>15739055
big brains. nigger all you have to do is look at the 50s and 60s

>>15739770
Exactly. The numbers are up because more people are living in front of the computer all day and not even trying.

>>15739976
>If you don't think the fact that 30% of men and rising can't get laid is a problem that's going to have gigantic, and I mean gigantic, complications down the line than you're crazy.

>if you don't think like me you're crazy
>p-p-please believe me i am NOT an incel
fucking lmao
no i don't see a problem at all because that has always been the case. most men don't get to fuck, it's never been different.
and the mere fact that you are getting so emotional and involved invalidates all of your alpha-male larping. get the fuck out of this thread if you're so damn amazing, incel.
> This shit is going to get way worse because midwits like you think these retards are just going to magically figure it out.
there is nothing to "figure out". you are projecting hard because quite obviously you're an incel trying to "figure out" how to still get laid. you won't, fag. have sex, lol

>>15739955
>The crazy thing is these so called dominating males or “alphas” that rule over us as global elites are not masculine or desirable in the genetic sense.
think of it this way: all kinds of variations of character and body have existed, but this particular kind has advanced to the very top. that is not a statement about them, it's a statement about the nature of god's design: at it's very core, nature/reality is heartlessness, brutality and unapologetic domination.
you may not like it, but that doesn't make it any less true.
>The redpill is they call themselves god’s chosen because they believe they are the most fit in the natural sense to conquer all the human races and rule over us.
well, the deciding principle whether or not you truly are is what we call reality, and they own it. in that sense, they are right. and what other characteristics would you accept if not reality?
>if peope wake up in large enough numbers they are done.
i highly doubt that. they are not the ones with their faces in front of a TV camera and seem to have several layers of patsies below them to take their place on the guilloutine for them.
they seem to have put a system in place where in order to gain the most powerful positions possible (just below them), you are forced to incriminate yourself by committing the most unspeakably "evil" (seen by sheep society) deeds possible: pedophilia, possibly cannibalism etc.
you don't committ these acts, you're not going to be a true player - you do, you're 100% willing to do whatever you can to not have your face remembered as the most evil person of all time.

no, they are certainly not on the brink of losing - and if anything, them winning in this manner, for me personally, is just a lesson in what reality actually is and how it works.
if i am apparantly mal-adapted by having what i perceive as reality completely molded in their image, then i accept that as a sad truth, even if it feels like shit to have to accept that it is the truth.

>>15740088
Based

>>15740088
>Everyone who has a problem with the current meta is projecting and is an incel

>>15740167
Major cringe

>>15740221
i will not for a second believe that you people care AT ALL about how much OTHER MEN get to fuck.
this automatically makes you whiny incels - the ones getting pussy are not in this thread right now, and no matter of le-funny-maymay-reaction images will change that.

START. WORKING. OUT. LOSER.

>>15739955
Modern ideas of what is "alpha" are pathetic anyhow. The fuckboys who get all the pussy today would have been dead 50 years ago in a mysterious disappearance after screwing someone's gf. Billy-Bob the trucker with a beer gut and a shotgun is far more fit, genetically speaking, than a perfectly trimmed and cut male model who can't even change a tire or do yardwork without fucking it up somehow.

>>15740249
alpha is relative, it's when you're most fit to the current environment. Our environment is degenerate so "alphas" are degenerate too.

If you want to understand the problem go to Eastern Europe. Men are more socially adjusted mainly because they're forced to interact more, I'm one of millions in the west who spent their childhoods staring at a screen and never making friends, and that's on us (or our parents depending who you ask). But the women also have reasonable standards and take care of themselves. In other words people work together to meet societal standards and have successful relationships, while here fewer and fewer have the ability and/or desire. These are dark times, I don't have the solution.

>>15740280
No idiot, humans don't have alphas. "Alpha" is a buzzword popularized by PUAs for marketing. Those men who are fucking every woman today aren't "alpha" or even genetically fit in any real sense. They do not reproduce except by sheer accident, they do not take care of their children, they do not select mates well, they have little to no useful or redeeming qualities from a civilizational standpoint, and most importantly the only reason any of them are still breathing is because laws from a more civilized time that still exist prevent the other men from butchering them like the chaff they are.
They are dysgenic mongrels who would be purged from any proper society for being exactly that, the problem is that WW1 and WW2 wiped out pretty much every man who wasn't a total fag from our societies for 50+ years, allowing the leftover cuckolds to put the power in the hands of women and deliberately subversive elements who seek to destroy us.
Use your fucking brain for once.

>>15738021
Should I go to over to this thick chicks house later with some wine and blast my offspring up her ass? I’m really horny boys and I’m having a hard time deciding it’s a bad idea. Please will a no fap/no women anon help me. I know she’d be down for it.

>>15740245
>i will not for a second believe that you people care AT ALL about how much OTHER MEN get to fuck.
On a macro level, we absolutely should care, but nevermind that.

The thing I take issue with specifically is not that, but rather anons gratuitously taking potshots at other anons for not getting laid, as if all of us haven't suffered in one way or another in the current environment.

The biggest irony of course is that those most susceptible to taking those potshots are usually PUA cultists (the quintessential frustrated beta male), who eventually discovered One Weird Trick to getting laid and now never miss a chance to lord it over everyone else, ironically demonstrating why you were such a late bloomer to begin with - you are a faggot on a genetic level, and a kike, either physically or in spirit. And you always will be ;)

>START. WORKING. OUT. LOSER.
KEK if I posted my lifts in this thread, you wouldn't believe me. In any case, all you are doing once again is confirming what everybody knew, and that is that you are a huge fucking faggot.

>>15740159
It’s absolutely disgusting how nature “chose” this creature to dominate humanity. I hate it but you are correct they are so far the best adapted/superior people in the Darwinian sense. For reasons that they are ruthless and only care about their racial superiority. They win because their only moral is to acquire more power for their people. Anything is permitted if it’s serves the purpose of increasing the power of their global oligarchy. This is what they teach their young and what they believe as being one with nature. They are right, doing what’s best for your own genetic interests regardless if you are a parasite is to be one with nature. We are not one with our own nature and is why we are dying, to reject nature will 100% lead to extinction.

I wouldn’t be so blackpilled however. People are not happy and beginning to wake up to reality. They are getting really scared. Even If the worst case scenario happens and all whites die and the Jews rule the Earth over a slave mutt race of a Muslims and Chinese mix it will not last. The Jews are parasites and if a parasites grows and grows then the host dies. Humanity will revert back into a primitive state and under the correct circumstances the long lost genes of the white race will start appearing again as whites genes are most favourable when it comes to survival. Under natural selection white traits will dominate and whites will be born again.

I belive this cycle has happened many times. The Jews are the test. Overcome the Jews and ascend to the stars. Fail and humanity reverts to darkness and humanity starts over.

>>15738068
>>15738170
>>15738211
>>15738818
>>15738068
>>15739530
jfc when will you realize that you're the only reason you aren't getting laid. quit being such angry losers, become more interesting and bang a decent 6/10.

"hey anon, you're so sweet why dont you have a girlfriend?"
"reeeeeee all the chads on tinder are pounding the 10s I deserve so I have to yell at women and call them degenerates"

hateful attitudes won't ever get you pussy you fucking dingles

>>15740408
except they don't need us anymore. they will merge with machines and keep some of us around as entertainment and fodder for their occult death rituals.
again: i am not angry about it, i am more or less indifferent. most of all i am interested to understand what this goddamn reality is that has me imprisoned. i want this knowledge more than any material possession or power. if reality is brutal, then so it is. i shrug and i try to understand what this knowledge wants me to change.

>>15740249
>>15740321
Off-the-fucking-charts based

>>15738170
>i've spoken to some slavs who say its more of the same on the other side of the pond as well...
It's true. Slav women are literally prostitutes.

>>15740437
>they will merge with machines

Fuck. I guess pic related is no joke

>>15739739
good point fag

>>15740408
not all jews are bad some are scientists and not selfish or "evil" there are many ruthless whites

>>15740484
Full on coomerbot there on the right

Idk about you all but I have had more partners than each of the girls I've slept with have had.

>>15739851
>dowry

That's what the womans family gave to the man she was getting married to at least in the recent past.

>>15738021
>27% of 30yo are virgins
is this even possible ?

>>15738358
>t. virgin

>>15740321
basically you agreed with me while pretending to disagree

>>15740999
t. Illiterate waste of trips

>>15738643
>i've gotten laid a ton
no, you haven't. have sex incel

>>15741019
>Those men who are fucking every woman today aren't "alpha" or even genetically fit in any real sense.
"men who are fucking every woman" are the literal definition of being alpha.
>They do not reproduce except by sheer accident, they do not take care of their children, they do not select mates well, they have little to no useful or redeeming qualities from a civilizational standpoint, and most importantly the only reason any of them are still breathing is because laws from a more civilized time that still exist prevent the other men from butchering them like the chaff they are.
They are dysgenic mongrels who would be purged from any proper society for being exactly that, the problem is that WW1 and WW2 wiped out pretty much every man who wasn't a total fag from our societies for 50+ years, allowing the leftover cuckolds to put the power in the hands of women and deliberately subversive elements who seek to destroy us.
that's a lot of words to write this:
>Our environment is degenerate so "alphas" are degenerate too.

>>15739922
are you retarded? while its primarily being chads that just fuck 80 % of women which arent in relationship are the reason (((who))) enabled this behavior in the first place? there were chads in the past too but media didnt push an agenda where every women deserved a fucking prince? also who produces most of the porn and who fucking pushed to make women part of the workforce, who produced soaps where women are self fullfilling stacies without children getting fucked every weekend by another chad?
you are a fucking brainlet

>>15741050
>"men who are fucking every woman" are the literal definition of being alpha.
I'm not even reading the rest of your post because you clearly didn't read mine or lack the necessary intelligence to comprehend it.

>>15738330
Have sex

>>15738068
This is bullshit. Women became insufferable because they are now all working. They are doing something the were not supposed to do. This has nothing to do with madonna, lady gaga and other MTV clips.

>>15741051
how can we get ((( them ))) aside from just using bitcoin.

>>15738068
implying its not just because people wanna whack off to porn instead lol stop blaming jews loser

>>15739395
have sex virgin

>>15738068
this, most men want a virgin wife who is obedient and nothing less. Also, a lot of dudes don't want to get cucked by the divorce system so they have cold feet for marriage.

>>15738692
Even if you adapt you still die ... Nigger

>>15738793
This is one of the stupidest post i've seen so far recently. To think i thought like that too a few years back.
Most special mention: nuclear family and patriarchy are natural. This is really garbage knowledge.
Just go talk to an anthropologist about those subjects once in your life. So he'll have a good laugh and make you realize you are an imbecile.

>>15738220

have you seen the fags that post and make threads about tinder?

go to a lot of forum websites, they aren't chad they are about average joes

>>15741649

black men are complaining that black bitches are acting like meghan stallion,cardi b, nicki minaj, and all those other hood rat bitches, i've seen white women acting like these ratchet hoes because of tv, females are influenced easier than males, so i'm afraid you are wrong anon

>>15740313
Only dude in this thread who actually knows the problem.

>>15741942
Reverse causality. They are living inside a society which is based around wage labor for women. So this society, based around wage labor for women, promotes these kind of behavior. It is not these behaviors which create this society, it is this society, and especially wage labor for women, which creates those behaviors. In general, cuckservatives are massively prone to reverse causality (not saying you are one).

>>15740313
just roll back to clock.

I'm 30 yo boomer and have a 20 yo thot on my dick. I think you guy's are just one or multiple of the following
> Incels
> short
> Broke
If you're none of these things, pussy is incredibly easy to get.

>>15740782
I wish this was true but it is unfortunately not. All jews work togeather for the common interests of international Jewry.

No Jew renounces their global mafia. They are all complacent in it. In fact they like it and will defend it.

I will say that a Jew can be good if he/she renounces their Jewry like Bobby Fischer for example. But then they are not even Jewish anymore, thus the saying is true. There is no such thing as a good Jew. But even then you can’t be 100% sure that they are only pretending and still loyal to their own.

>>15742149
Pussy is easy to get for men who are making some effort to get it.
It's not harder than say, doing competitive sports, or running a small business.
Of course, if you are behind your lcd screen all day, doing nothing, your chances are close to zero.

>>15738068
Cope

>>15742190
By the way, African pussy is super easy to get, if you go to Africa. You don't even need to be successful or muscular, just be white. I don't know if those incels don't have the brains, or the balls to do it, but my bet is they don't have both.

>>15742203
>just go for 1/10 AIDS infested pussy bro

>>15742203
That's massive cope.

>>15742203
Incase you haven’t noticed
Here on 4chan we don’t like to have sex with monkeys
Also monkeys carry a lot of AIDS
That’s not a solution, faggot

>>15742247
Then you die a virgin, incel.

>>15740414
only faggot ass zoomers care about "getting laid"

>>15742203
Why the fuck would you do that? I'll stay in my city where all I need to do is go to a upscalish bar by myself and have thots flirt with me. Seriously guys it's this easy
> Dress well
> Go to place that isn't cheap alone
> Enjoy yourself
Don't try to get pussy, the pussy will come.

>>15740321
Somebody put this coping faggot on a list. He sounds exactly like that California incel who shot up his campus. You said alphas would be butchered down? By who? The IT guy? Lmao get real and have sex incel.

>>15738021
Strip clubs where the girls fuck you in the back

>>15742311
I'm not talking about myself. I get pussy from all color, japanese, African, but mostly white.
But it's clearly easier with black girls, and even easier with african black girls.
Incels don't realize how easy it is in africa, even for an average white male. If they don't get any pussy, it's because they don't want to, so they are not incels, but actual volcel having certain standards, but disguising themselves as incels because it's more comfortable than actually take some measures in their lifes.
Getting african pussy is also a solution if your searching for someone when you are old. Since african pussy value is less than white one, a 60 year old white guy can land a 30 year old african women with ease, when landing a 30 year old white western women would be almost impossible if you are 60 and average physically.

>>15740490
I wish

>>15740321
You are a civilization-tard.

>>15738021
lol 3D
Just Monika.

>>15742647
>wearing high heels on a beach

>>15740414
>laid
No one cares about getting laid retard we're talking about having a family. Getting laid is easy, modern women are whores.

>>15742951
based. this anon gets it.

>>15738793
man I wish I could force women into... did you say Montgomery?

>>15738068
>walking in Uni hallway
>see cute girl walking my way
>"Hmm maybe I'll talk to her..."
>get closer
>see she has a nose ring
EVERY. FUCKING. TIME

>>15738021
Social media caused this. 2008 is when Facebook got really popular.

Mark Zuckerberg literally cucked 20% of men.

>>15738021
I just wish I could find a skinny girl, mang. There are no mid-tier skinny girls anymore, the only skinny girls left are the rich girls that only date athletes. Everyone below them is at least 200 lbs because of either SAD, eating shit out of being depressed about not being desirable on Tinder anymore, or a combination of the two.

>>15738021
LOL wait you guys are actually virgins? That's not just a meme?

>>15743051
yep. Facebook marked the fall of society, it was innocent at first but then the information got sold. the deep state is trying to finish us off. trump 2020 or we die.

>>15743066
>virgins
We're talking about wives not tinder sluts

>>15742203
do you see the replies?
>I don't want pussy unless it's prime white virgin pussy, if they're anything else they're a slut and aids infested from Chad's poz cock
this is why they will always be incels.

>>15738269
Based and redpilled

>>15738068
>chose not to
thats not what incel means

>>15738021
lmao do you hate money? this is going all the way to 80% then the great reactionary incelution brings things back to 5%

>>15738021
>the bottom 27% of men aren’t having sex
So? Wait, you’re not in the bottom 27% are you? Lmao

>>15742951
>>15742958
>Getting laid is easy, modern women are whores.

and yet you're a fucking virgin

>>15738062
HODL!

>>15740414
this is the correct opinion, though I don't expect anons under 25 will have the maturity level to grasp it

hypergamy isn't even close to slowing down and we're yet to see the worst. in fact, we cant even visualise how bad things are going to get because humans have never experienced it.

>>15738021
We're at "New Paradigm!"

>>15746497
>not using log graph

>>15738358
>i am convinced she will find me, and not the other way around.
I'm sure she's gonna come knocking at your doorstep!
You're one step away from black pill and that is to give up that hope.

>>15738330
>adapting to market changes in order to maintain profit makes you a cuck
Classic /biz/

>>15743107
They are like fat guys saying they can't loose weight because of their genetics/metabolism. At one point we should stop caring. It's important that they have all the information available in order to get out of their inceldom, but if i was 100% sure they had access to all the informations, i wouldn't even care anymore.

>>15739530
I have like 15 matches on Tinder and I've only been using it for like 3 weeks? Am I a chad now? 24 year old kissless virgin, btw.

>>15746497
It's unironcally begin to slow down and even fall. Due to inceldom, virtual reality, fembots and sexbots and contraception (africa still isn't there).

>>15746497
>BCE instead of CE
>year 0

Whoever made this is an euphoric retard who doesn't even understand how our calendar works.

>>15746316

Yeah I know its partly my fault. I always go for the best girl, just like girls go for the best guys. So it never works out I guess. But it might be good, lower population is good and also us unworthy incels not producing might be good. We just need to have fait in the judgement of nature, natural selection might make the human race better. Also, I really am beyond the point of caring. There is more than enough fun stuff still and I want to see how powerful and intelligent I can become, so still enough to live for.

>>15738021
>>15738068
>>15738152
>under 18
Well, I don’t see why this is a bad thing, honestly

>>15738330
>>15738330
Cope, and you know it.

>>15742846
>being such a pleb
Anon, I...

>>15746651
>Yeah I know its partly my fault. I always go for the best girl, just like girls go for the best guys.
It's literally male hypergamy. Many incels are hypergamous. They could fuck the ugly black girl, but they deliberately choose not to do so. And then they come here and complain. Fuck this mentality.

>>15740321
Cringe

>>15741064
Wrong, the very biological definition of alpha in the animal kingdom is the male with the most sexual resources

Fucking retard have sex

>>15738021
Why would you want to invest in something that represents failure?

>>15738021

>>15738464
Underrated

>>15738269
you must be gay if you hate the opposite sex lmao

>>15738021
I posted this exact same thread and got banned for 10 days. Why this still up