/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15727331
My wife has a shit ton of mtg cards.
I downloaded the tcgplayer app, scanned a few and I'm looking at $1100 in value.
Can I actually get this much money for these things? The wife doesn't play with them anymore, she just hodls.
Why are these pieces of paper worth so much?

>>15727376
MTG has been around since like 93, its the most played card game in the world, nothing comes close. Even amateur shit tournaments yield hundreds of thousands in prize money and the pro events are in the millions. Hasbro/WotC make tons of money on this thing.

If her cards are values at 1100 with tcgplayer, I assume its their buy prices so yes minus shipping etc you would get $1000, you can get more if you sell yourself online on Ebay or something and want to take the risk with dealing with buyers. Or try Cardkingdom, their buylists are a bit higher. Or sell locally at a card shop.

What cards are they?

I have tons of old mtg cards, are they worth anything? Stuff like alpha commons, signed rare cards from early editions, etc. Is there any price chart for rare old cards?

>>15727828
Alpha is worth a fuck ton. What do you have?

A sealed Alpha Booster Box sells for $250,000. Individual cards can be $20,000+

>>15727455
>its the most played card game in the world, nothing comes close
that would probably be hearthstone. or atleast they have aroung 8x the amount of people in reddit/twitch that mtga has. and i doubt many of the active physical card game players dont have mtga

the 90's and 2000's are over. books-a-million and gamestops are fadeing away where you would typically play these. physical card games are dying. its time to get in to digital card games that give actual ownership of the cards you buy op

>>15727971
>Individual cards can be $20,000+
Maybe moxes and black lotus. I have crappy commons like disenchant, sinkhole, circles of protection etc. About 20 cards in total.

>>15727331
I almost have a full set of revised duals for long term investment.
Don't pay much attention to new cards

What are your general strats since you seem to be making so much money?

>>15728001
No one cares about digital garbage. Paper magic is king. The rest is lower than peasant tier.

>>15728012
>What are your general strats
Might be hard if you dont play and cant tell what cards will be strong in modern legacy standard EDH and so on but when new sets come out you can preorder single cards for dirt cheap in hopes they go up in value once people see the card is strong, same with buying foils. Its more short term gains but some for long term hodls. Boxes are more for long term flipping since most boxes dont drop in value, some do though. You can also short term flip boxes.

>>15728482
>No one cares about digital garbage. Paper magic is king.

hmmm lets see
>for every 1 authentic there is 1000 fakes
>the most valuable/rare cards cant even be used in gameplay because of the risk of damage and wear lowering the value
>you have to actually find someone who will play with you, who's deck is not considerably weaker or stronger than yours and is an equally good/bad player to give you a fun time and challenge
>power creep making older gen cards worthless in competitions due to the developers trying to make their newest selling generation more in demand and keep cost of entry and being competitive down
>no rebalance. if a card is demed to strong after release or used in a way the developers didnt consider, its just outright banned instead of rebalanced
>has to go to the store or order packs online
>has to fly to the otherside of the world to participate in a tournament
>has to take a dicking when trying to sell them for multiple reasons much like you stated here: >>15727455
>no way to track who's owned what cards, if you wanted a card from a tournament winners deck they would have to deface it or pay a grader to confirm
>cards condition is objective and a grader who disagree's with what you believe its grade is could cost you a fortune on a risky buy

need i go on? something big is coming to wreck the TCG world

>>15728496
I know how to play and check out the new cards, but I dont play anymore.
Any examples of your last inch stacks of preorders that were booms/busts?

>>15728006
I'd buy

>>15727331
finally a good fucking thread.
haven't flipped mtg decks that would net me anything good yet, but have recently started looking into trading cars decks after an awesome flip. Android netrunner out of print deck go for at least 80 to 90 depending on which deck. Bought a Sovereign Sight oop deck on goodwill website for 20 and flipped for 80. Pokemon decks from early 2000s ate also good if they are sealed and specific events.
Just got into flipping some handheld consoles too. Bless you OP.

i have two sealed boxes of innistrad what should i do with them?

>>15727331
What skill level/ investment do you need in order to turn a profit doing this?

I assume the people that make the most money off MtG trading play the game a lot to know which combos are viable in any given meta.

I never really got into the competitive scene, I prefer playing kitchen table games with fun goofy combos with friends, which I think there is a healthy secondary market for.

YuGioh is better lol

>>15727331
this>>15729382
mtg is for fat virgin faggots. thinking of this as an investment, is so fucking laughable.
you realize youd have an easier time selling your coom, right?

You have to get pretty deep into the scene to make money speculating on cards, and you have to be consistently making enough to let it take over your life that much.

It's like any micro-economy: you can milk it for profit, but it's going to be a big part of your life to do it meaningfully.

>>15729382
>>15729464
Either way you're never getting pussy lol

I get a significant employee discount at my LGS (higher of -40% or MSRP). Sitting on a couple boxes of Unstable.

>>15729500
>tfw slept with 13 women
>tfw currently have gf who takes my sidemen
based desu fren. you should try it.
youll have to ditch those fag papers though.

Keyforge is the future mate.
Unique decks is a gamechanger and the best ones are already going for +1000$. The game itself is really fun too.

>>15729132
Can you use cards that beat up in the game? I know you wouldn't use those specifically but I'm curious. Seems like it'd be easy to mark some cards if they're beat up, I did this when I played poker in prison

>>15729573
>posting specific number of girls slept with on /niz/

>>15729646
You'd generally play with sleeves on, and you'd need a hell of a mark for it to show through the sleeve.

I can’t think of a more pathetic way to make money. Even if you made a million bucks trading autism cards, girls still wouldn’t want to have sex with you.

>>15728001
You mean like Artifact? Axecoin $40 soon

>>15729711
Girls will fuck whoever the millionaire tells them to.

When did MTG die? I quit at the start of whatever the shit block after RTR was.

>>15729646
I just play old school, nobody cares. That beat up Alpha Icy Manipulator is worth as much as a Legacy deck.

Foil EDH / Commander cards are the way to go. But seriously, crypto is so much easier (in a bull market)

>>15727455
>its the most played card game in the world
poker

>>15729722
can you buy and sell artifact cards on a public market? that game flopped hard.

>>15729661
>not able to post #s of girls slept with as youre likely a virgin
must hurt, but im sure someone will fuck you if you get enough nerd papers

>>15729022
Foil Mystic Sanctuary x100 for under $1 a pop, now at $6 each. Same for Midnight Clock but only 30 copies and right now sitting at $5 each. Drown in the Loch about 25 of those for under a dollar each now at almost $4 each, $10 for foils. Emry was a good choice but shes getting banned fast. Fabled Passage was a missed opportunity for me.

This is all for Thrones of Eldraine.

>>15729278
Hodl if you dont need money, or sell if you want th emoney to do other stuff. But only if its original Innistrad when Liliana was released. Shadows over Innistrad sucks.

>>15729711
Instagram whores let Arabs shit on them for $20k anon. You bet your ass one would blow me for the same amount if it meant not eating my actual feces.

>>15727331
shut up kantbot

>>15727331
I'm an avid player and have quite the collection but I'm thinking of trying to flip a profit now. I think I have a good idea of what will be a high demand single or set. Currently just holding Modern Horizons though.

I think this is a good time to get in. With the release of these deluxe collector edition products I believe the game will only grow. With Wizards basically neutering Historic as a potential paper format, Modern seems like the best investment. Sealed special seasonal sets are a safe bet but what are your specs on certain singles? I should've flipped my leyline of the voids before the reprint.

lol fukking neeerrrrrds lmao

>>15731387
>deluxe collector edition products
If you mean Eldraine collector packs and boxes, dont. The packs have been opened in some videos on youtube including by MTG themselves on twitch and the pulls are trash, mostly commons. But there are idiots who will pay premium prices for anything so maybe itll still do well but remember a box of 12 collector packs original price was $250, and is now gouged to $350 to $400 with the special collector box by MTG with the uncut sheet and artwork etc is $450.

For singles I did recently with Eldraine. Drown in the Loch, Mystic Sanctuary, Midnight Clock all foils. Murderous Rider was one I missed, Fabled Passage also. Emry is a big one but people already want it banned. It will turn into another Hogaak soon.

Modern Horizons is good hold but its called MH1 by Wizards so expect a Modern Horizons 2 in 18 months or so. Who knows how it will affect MH1. Take the crown conspiracy 2 made conspiracy 1 drop in price (though still expensive) but its a different situation. MH2 may suck while MH1 stays strong.

Bump

>>15731498
Well said fellow planeswalker. What are your thoughts on mass buying Teferi at rotation and hodling a couple years? Seems like it will only go up.

I have some modern masters 2013 booster boxes. What’s the best place to sell them?

>>15727455
She's got literal crates of this stuff. I scanned a whole bunch of the cards and I guess she doesn't know how much they're worth because there are some cards that are $0.25 and some that are $100+ mixed in this one binder in pic related.
She also has several binders with Pokemon and YuGiOh cards... wtf OP, is my wife rich and I'm a poorfag with crypto?

>>15732104
Local LGS, Ebay, TCGplayer. Beware ebay though, people like to rip you off with scams though its kinda rare but it happens. Ebay does not protect sellers.

>>15732190
Scan all her cards. Bulk sell cards under $5, everything over $5 sell as singles. Cardkingdom has the highest buy list but they grade harshly. Cash offers are lower than store credit but you can buy boxes today to hold for years or buy dual lands and Alpha/Beta/Unlimited set cards or buy other reserve list stuff.

Ask your wife first though. Or dont

>>15730788
original innistrad of course. i kinda want to draft it. maybe for a really special occasion.

>>15732471
What is the most efficient use of ~$50k store credit if I want a small amount of singles so they are easy to store?

>>15733279
Trading in a crap load of stuff $500 or less and want to maximize value with store credit instead of cash price

>>15727376
kristin?

>>15733279
Buy a couple PSA grade 9 or 10 Black Lotus cards or a nice stack of Dual Lands.

>>15729371
It has to be a passion, for new cards you just have to be better at evaluating cards and purchasing them when they are cheap/ undervalued and then use them to buy/ trade for other undervalued cards later on.

I dont do it anymore but I made a bunch roughly a decade ago timing the market with commander and other eternal formats (and reserve list cards) skyrocketing.

>>15727331
Years ago I was considering make investments on mtg but you need to open a company to avoid taxation and get suppliers to sell the booster packs. WotC controls the quantity of rare cards and they can dilute the value upon the profit they want to makes. Gives alot of work because you need to pay attention to the market, deck build, future implementations...
In effort/return don't see short and long therm gains, because more and more people use digital card because is a win win for the company and for the player (even if you can't trade any card justifying with the commodity to wherever you like)

bump.