/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15559606
Source?

>>15559615
https://twitter.com/_pivx/status/1171225492864811009?s=20

https://twitter.com/Sentinel_co/status/1171871429551255552?s=20

>>15559615

"The new Electrum Wallet for PIVX is almost ready! Fast, secure and private. Future features will include... Sentinel_co
DVPN Support, BTC <-> PIVX in wallet transfer, SPMT integration and more! Stay tuned for release links!

"Thrilled to introduce the Sentinel dVPN to the privacy-centric PIVX community through the Zephyr Wallet integration.

With cosmos IBC, we aim to introduce the Sentinel dVPN as a utility to other networks and communities. More on that soon, in a detailed blog post! SENT"

The partnership makes sense, if you don't hide your IP while sending a private txn, you could get de anonimized very easily

>>15559677
i think for this reason sentinel can get a lots of partnerships with privacy coins, most coins don't have a IP hiding solution backed in their protocol, with sentinel they can outsource development of ip anonymization

>>15559677
The important part is also that when SENT main net launches people from the PIVX community will be able to host DVPN nodes and get payed in pivx thus creating one more usecase for their coins.

>>15559606
>BTC and any other coin can be used to pay for bandwidth
This is what sets SENT apart from projects like Orchid, MYST, Privatix, etc. This feature alone will increase adoption and allow for other projects to integrate the network without forcing the use of a native token.

>>15559720
imo this is the first of many partnerships that sentinel will be able to create with other privacy coins, the incentives are pretty clear.

>>15559728
Lets not forget that all those failed dvpn projects are building on eth, which will never scale

>>15559728
Orchid raised about $50M to do a dVPN and after two years they still don't have a working product. Even when they launch, they won't have half the features SENT has.

Sent chart looks good

>>15559776
they raised 50m$ but they want to open at a 125$m valuation.
SENT had way more time to fully test and refine their product and slowly build a userbase, right now its around 10k daily user, which is more then 99% crypto projects

>>15559606
too bad sent is still shitting the bed
got out of this money hole yesterday

>>1555972
This is one of the reasons im very bullish on sent, any project can easily integrate with it hosting nodes is very easy

2 dying projects ban together to try to generate hype. Groundbreaking.

This is shit. Means nothing. Pivx is shit. Please don’t buy any Sentinel. At least not yet.

I heard you like shitcoins so I put a shitcoin in ur shitcoin

>>15559836
You sold just before a partnership announcement, nice play newfag

>>15559806
That stat means nothing. More users will lead to eventual pump. But we need pump and dump.

>>15559843
DivX at some point had half a billion mcap

>>15559872
its ok, its still dumping so I have time

>>15559872
I don’t care about partnership. I care about pump. Where is the pump?

>>15559893
That means nothing. They are just another coin in an overcrowded coin market.

>>15559843
sentinel has just started showing what it can do, more partnerships will come, spidervpn was the last partnership, they also had some older partnerships with metalyfe and SID, it just shows that sentinel is slowly moving to bigger and better partnerships with time even better one will come, pivx is just one of many to come

>>15559871
I like coin with utility. I don’t like real projects like Sentinel. Too stiff. Absolute tech. They can’t pump. And I need pump.

>>15559930
Like I said. I need instant pump. Sentinel sounds like a long hodl. We don’t have time for that. If we have to hold, we will hold USD.

>>15559931
Sent just had a pretty nice pump, and last year it went from 1.89m cap to 50m cap

>>15559943
instant pump is just for the addicted gamblers, ive been in this space for long, the best ROI i had were from holding coins for months/years

>>15559948
I remember that pump. I am sure it will pump again. But it’s taking an awful lot of time between pumps. Pumps should not take one month breather.

>>15559956
Are you now offering financial advice?

>>15559957
Most of sent supply is not on exchanges so when the pump comes very few people will be able to get in

>>15559956
Exactly. SENT will go minimum $50M mcap by early next year. That is 13x from here. What other project gives you this risk/reward ratio?

>>15559968
you want financial advice from an anon ID on a taiwanese cat petting board ?

>>15559986
well SENT is surely undervalued, just the fact that it has been publicly endorsed by tendermint and cosmos teams, and it has a hardware being developed should show how much value is being produced

>>15559985
Well. Looks like bad ass holders. Some wallets have not moved since early 2018. What is their motivation behind holding a shitcoin for that long?

>>15560023
Well it has not been endorsed by any big exchange. I would have liked Kraken or Coinbase or Binance talking about it

>>15560026
I guess they know something we don't or they are very confident in the product being developed

>>15560059
Hmm. Well we will wait and find. But for now, I will not buy Sentinel.

>>15560038
https://info.binance.com/en/research/ATOM-2019-4-28.html

binance mentioned sentinel in their research piece on cosmos, and cz interacted with sentinel multiple times on twitter.
also binance labs has within its mandate to find and fund a dVPN project

>>15560082
Is this for real?

>>15559606
4000$ down to 40$
FUCK YOU PIVX
THE WORST SHITCOIN I EVER HAD

>>15560081
When it gets on better exchange it will become much more attractive, by that time it will be at 20m cap imo

>>15560082
Anyhow, Binance is a scam. So may be they deserve each other.

>>15560091
yeah it got also mentioned on a brave research piece:
https://www.brave.com/analysis-of-dvpns/
and on a article by one of the biggest cosmos validators:
https://blog.chorus.one/top-5-projects-building-on-cosmos/

>>15560100
Binance might be a scam but they delivered the best pumps

>>15559606
Nice the sent meme spreads further.

>>15560096
Lol why did you buy the top hand.

>>15560292
Someone has to buy the top

>>15560099
IDEX cleared SENT for US trading. Binance will probably list SENT on main net release - they need more coins for US exchange.

Seriously quit pumping this shitcoin. It’s dead and no one has ever heard of it except for a few paneers on biz.

>>15560942
looks like you have not researched SENT, it has a committed team and constant new tech releases

>>15561023
SENT can go over 200m mcap easily

Sentinel bros! WE will fucking make it. I was worried for a while, but I´ve never been as confident in this project as I am now.

>>15559836
Nice move there captain. Buy high sell the bottom! yay. Impatient traders will lose.

we have held through a challenging shakeout and now the announcements are coming regularly. SENT has stabilized nicely and these prices are a steal. holders have only grown stronger. the IDEX approval was a great sign. it's still early.

>>15561289
No top wallets have sold. Holding strong since 2017. IBC mixer will be huge. Imagine earning a % of all mixer and VPN transactions in BTC, ETH, Monero with staking SENT.

>>15561829
I have been following top wallets closely. Not a single one has sold during the last pump. My guess is that top wallet holders are Cosmos and Tendermint teams. They need a IBC mixer, but mixing coins gets a bit complicated legally. So the best solution is for a decentralized anon project to build the mixer instead.

>>15562080
yeah that's very likely, it explains why the team has not exit scammed and have been delivering code for 2 years straight

>>15562080
This is possible cause sentinel is the second project that started building on Tendermint after cosmos, when literally nobody knew

>>15562256
https://forum.cosmos.network/t/list-of-projects-in-cosmos-tendermint-ecosystem/243

right now around 100 projects are building on tendermint or tendermint forks
binance dex
tezos
ren
matic
etc...

>>15562080
Cosmos will never be able to have mixer cause team members are not anon so they just created an anon project

>>15562300
Sentinel only raised 2m there is no way they are still operating without some giving them external funds , cosmos team is behind this it just seems logical

This shitcoin has less that 4k real volume. If you buy more than $50 worth you will never get your money back out. This isn't even a functional market, much less a functional project.

This is the same PnD scam as the last 4 times, they went quiet for 2 days and came back with some fake "partnership" like the router scam.

Go away shitbags, this project has no pace here.

>>15562337
good point i didn't think of that, also sentinel products perfectly integrates with cosmos ones, to provide anonymity which is needed for a settlement hub like cosmos

>>15562337
They got lots of atoms delegated from cosmos team so they can continue developing

>>15562393
Sentinel fundamentals are amazing for a project with such a lowcap

>>15562448
i agree , right now its at 3.69m$ mcap, when it will get listed on better exchanges, liquidity will propel this much higher then last pump

>>15562465
When alts pick up again this will easily reach over 0.1$ cents

>>15562497
i think that after BTC breaches ATH retail money will start flowing back into alts, and projects with real usecases that have a clear path to growth will benefit the most

>>15562517
I think you are right, after btc breaches 20k , normies will come back and their appetite for gains will push them into shitcoins.
Normies are mostly priced out of btc, right now it's "too expensive" cause of their unit bias

>>15562557
Unit bias created the ripple army, its a powerful force I wouldn't bet against it

>>15562575
higher denominations have higher mental costs, thats why i think cosmos hub will have way more decimals then ethereum, so that normies can get some exposure without feeling left out

>>15562590
Sentinel helps a lot with that, by allowing anyone to earn crypto by selling bandwidth without having to go through kyc on exchanges

>>15562616
the fact that burgers can get sent without having to go through kyc by just setting up some dvpn nodes its one of the best thing about it, its also clear that sentinel is not a security token after IDEX cleared it for trading on its US version.

>>15562641
I think on their endgame is to allow people to start a node with the click of a button

>>15562673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK2cd731Jr4

right now its very easy anyway, but i guess it can become easier

>>15562680
Its kind of easy but its only available for linux

>>15562689
after main net they will release the windows version for node hosting, but if you are just a user its available on all platform but IOS (which they are still developing)

>>15562705
IOS release will bring the biggest user growth after iOS sent can easily go from 10k users to 20k

>>15562689
sorry meant to tag you on the post above, recently tehy released a preview of their IOS app

https://youtu.be/6ArKkuvus-Q

>>15562680
The easiest way to host a node is buying the router, it will come with pre installed sentinel software

>>15562782
Spider partnership is what differentiates sentinel from all its competitors, no one has anything similiar

>>15562796
spiderVPN will host tehir nodes on sentinl privatenets which are aimed at corporations banks and already existing centralized VPN providers, when privatenets are launched all kinds of deals and partnerships with institutions can come

>>15562809
many VPN providers will integrate with sentinel when it become clear that they will be able to offer better services thanks to the relay net

>>15562849
with privatenets+relaynet you can get the best of both words, you can route through a legacy vpn provider and any amounts of consumer nodes to get the best privacy

>>15562796
The best part about sentinel it's hands out the currency agnostic nodes and the mixer, all other dvps on eth will be easily deanon by following txn trails

>>15562900
Building on ethics is such a retard move, you are now fucked if eth devs do some retarded shit like the dao

>>15562916
They fucked up many times and they will do it again

>>15559606
ohH m1n3 Gott sirs, this is HUGE news for SENTINEL TOKEN

VERY BULLISH, I JUST ACCUMULATED A BAG

>>15562934
this image speaks for itself, they are too busy dressing like furries taking acid and going to the burning man to develop actual sound code

>>15562945
That image cant be real

>>15562955
its real, thats vlad and his pals

Order books looking very thick, very solid. I bet that guy who bought at 1666 a week ago is fucking thrilled. And that guy who sold at 2300 a few weeks ago is literally crying rn. WEAK HANDS SHAKEN OUT!

Any TA anons here?

>>15562968
What a faggot

>>15562979
What's this pattern called?

>>15562986
vitalik is even sadder

>>15562989
Vitalik is a evil kid, completely out of touch with reality

>>15563012
he also damaged the bitcoin/cypherpunk movement the most.
ethereum community has been attacking bitcoin community for years, thank god no competent cryptographer or dev works on eth, just a bunch of teens with too little testosterone

>>15563036
Lol but they give good signals, i shorted eth when they did that rap and that badger thing on stage

>>15563057
good move, they will never be able to scale eth, but they will continue to change narratives DEFI was the last attempts, right now they are trying with "eth is money" but its just a joke to anyone that understand monetary policies

>>15562969
That’s thick for you?

>>15563074
It’s just when you give up, they come back smack your ass! Sentinel is a great example of that.

They will have their ass smacked for ditching Ethereum and moving to an unknown and untested blockchain.

>>15560815
Speculation Speculation Speculation. Okay so IDEX cleared Sentinel for US users. So what’s the big deal?

US don’t make the market any more. It’s mainly India and Korea. Indians don’t like Sentinel. They like Bitcoin and Ethereum and recently Chainlink. Indians like things that pump. Indians like things that have liquidity. 1 billion people trading shitcoin.

>>15562393
So what? Means nothing. ATOM had to be delegated by interchain. So they organised an event called Games of Stake and okay Sentinel was one of the winner.

Not a big deal. Anyone could have been the winner. Sentinel kept 100% uptime while others failed. So Interchain sent them ATOM. But again hosting around $2 million worth of ATOM is not a big deal. Anyone can do that. No one has time for these competitions.

>>15562393
>lots of atoms
lol, changing up the phrasing a bit I see so it doesn't look so comically absurd when you search for "500k atoms" in the archive. Very clever, Argentes

>>15563474
Can't do IBC on ETH. Using ETH would be slow, and you would not be able to pay with any token which would hinder adoption.

Where are the usual FUDfags?

>>15563692
Why bother? It's failing without any help.

This scam is down 14% and 3k real volume.

Same shit... Shill w/fake partnership.. dump.. quiet for 2 days. Rinse and repost.

>>15563799
You are right. Hope you dumped it all.

>>15563644
Interesting point. But do we care? We need pumpy coins!

>>15563692
Not allowed to trade due to US block on Idex.

>>15562979
That’s so fake. None of that happened. It’s just a fake chart.

>>15563692
having no fud is usaully bad fren. It means we are not interested

>>15562727
It may. It may not.

>>15563977
Yup. And we are not interested in Sent. Not interesting. Pumps and Dumps.

>>15563989
Then don't buy any and move on. Why waste your time on a project you are not interested in?

>>15563967
SENT is tradeable for US users

>>15563799
it's more than 20 sats on IDEX but okay

>>15563977
but this post is FUD
are you some sort of meta-FUDer?

>>15564134
no im just interested in pump and dump

>>15559606
Go post on 4chan India, no one is buying these scams

>>15564151
How is it a scam? It's literally a utility token for an actual product with users. The "scams" on /biz/ are pretty much everything besides SENT. We've had a team working on it for two years and an upcoming mainnet release in Q4 of this year.

>>15564186
I really don't get the scam accusations... literally more of a working product and more every day users then the majority of the projects shilled on here. In an age of increasing online censorship and surveillance, why would you not welcome one of the only projects working on an innovative decentralized VPN?

>>15564276
It's a combination of Chinese (PRC) shills and delusional Linkies who are literally just angry whenever people discuss something that isn't LINK on /biz/

see >>15563324

>>15564303
Sad. If they put in as much effort as they do into denial, they may actually make some money in the market.

>>15564276
Its a scam

>>15564514
they shilled at 20c, while u guys shill at almost ATH. So i know who to trust.

>>15564525
>almost ATH
SENT's ATH is over 2 cents, over a year ago. SENT is currently less than a quarter of a penny. But okay my man, trust the retards who shit up the board with "le praise kek" shit, and got dumped on to death by their dev even though it was common knowledge from the beginning that he had like 60% of the total token supply in his wallet.

>>15564525
what ATH are you talking about retard? SENT is under $5M mcap. Doesn’t get any better in terms of risk/reward ratio. Remember, Orchid raised $50M and they don’t even have a working product. If you are looking for a scam, look at Orchid.

>>15564516
kek what makes it a scam exactly? The working product? The consistent development? The partnerships?

Is a scam, all pivx coins are scam beware.
I am now homeless living with my parents because I invested all into the COLX scam, my life is very hard now, I am 44 yrs old, divorced, my dog died and my family hates me because I am broke.

>>15559606
Sent is bleeding like a fucking period holy shit. Rip pajeets

>>15564745
SENT is not a “PIVX coin” - whatever that means. PIVX is a third party project using the SENT network layer in their wallet. I could care less about PIVX, but it is a great usecase example of how the sentinel network can be used by other developers for their applications.

>>15564767
Everybody knows you buy at the top and sell at the bottom right?

>>15564809
Sent dumped because BTC faked everybody out. Kek at anybody selling before main net. If you have large amounts you want to sell, come to the Sentinel telegram trollbox chat.

>>15559606
Who?

you dont see a lot of low cap coins making partnerships like these all the time, this and router announcment is actually quite impressive, more than 99% of usual crypto anns

Sent is the real deal

Lit. Privacy is coming back! Sentinel to $1b mcap!!!

>>15564774
PIVX acts as POC, other privacy coins will integrate with sentinel, its only a matter of time

>>15566784
Coins that have no privacy features can gain them with the interblockchain mixer

>>15564586
>dev held 60% of token
horrible fake FUD attempt

>>15567655
how?

>>15568531
Ha ha i love these

>>15567415
yeah that's one of the main selling points of sentinel, the mixer its also a product that could stand well by itself

>>15568997

>>15569587
Interblockchain mixing will be huge, btc for example needs would benefit a lot from on chain privacy

>>15570816
BTC holders can use all kind of services from sentinel mixing dvpn dchat privatenets relay net

>>15571289
What are privatenets?

>>15571959
You can create your own private/enterprise dVPN that nobody else has access to.

>>15572456
That's fucking neat.

>>15571959
private nets are also a way for legacy VPN providers to integrate with sentinel infrastructure, spider vpn will be probably moving tehir nodes to sentinel, and many other smaller vpns will follow.
its also a way for corporations governments banks and all institutions to create a secure network for their employees when they are traveling or for general confidential communication.

>>15573617
>the internet stack
was does this mean?

>>15574186
At some point, the web3 connectivity layer (e.g. NKN) will be the primary means by which a device connects to the internet.

Starting in the late 90's, all devices came pre-equiped with a crypto key, which you purchase along with the device. (Today this is called a SIM card.) This key is what allows you to first connect to a trusted network, and then jump to the untrusted internet.

With blockchain, we can now jump directly to the untrusted internet, rather than needing to first connect to a trusted intermediary (like AT&T, Verizon, Etc.) Sentinel, NKN, and other connectivity layers are competing to become the standard layer-3 protocol which, on a de-facto basis, most devices will connect through out of the factory.

>>15574248
that's interesting, thanks anon. I doubt the powers that be would ever let Sentinel fill that role though.

>>15574248

oh fuck off

>>15574256
They're busy fighting bitcoin xD

>>15574257
what

>>15574256
They won't have a say in the matter. Look where the $50M invested in Orchid came from - Orchid was compromised from the start. Sentinel on the other hand is a true cypherpunk project. Anon team that didn't whore themselves out and didn't sell out their ideals. Only raised $2M in 2017, and did more with that then projects with 30x the funds.

>>15575055
SENT mcap will match Orchid raise of $50M by main net release.