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this 'automation is bad' is a strange meme that only economically illiterate young people who were the product of public school indoctrination believe.
Automation ended slavery.
without automation, the government would be working us to death on the farms like north korea.

>>15485307
>automation is good
what are people going to do once they become fully inessential to the economy? they're going to be killed

>>15485291
>Automation is only one step behind complete tyranny, you'll have no means to protest or strike against governments and corporations

Thank God, we can end this tiresome charade.

>>15485425
except you're not the one in charge of transportation businesses, you're not the owner of any of these conglomerates in industry and agriculture. You don't get to decide how wealth will be redistributed.

>>15485326
stop being retarded, retard

>>15485291
>it's a good idea to make people desire human flesh
WHAT did richard mean by this?

>>15485474
>"AUTOMATION ENDED SLAVERY"
except it did not, you fucking moron, you're going to be absolutely useless for corporations and the state.

>>15485326
Which is why humans need to start moving back towards being self sufficient. Grow a garden, collect rain water, etc.
>But muh apartment, can't grow a garden.
Get a hydroponics system. You can do it with cheap Mason jars or something extreme like pic related.

Do you know how pathetic you sound complaining you won't have a job working for a corporation for pennies instead of putting that effort into yourself? Become an entrepreneur, because by your logic, you're already replaceable as soon as a machine makes a feasible replacement for you. Start working towards your own means.

>>15485307
this, technology frees us and makes shit abundant
>>15485326
if it werent for the debt money system they would be enjoying the fruits of technology not getting killed, retard. People would now have time to think and focus on important shit besides toilling for shekelsburg all day, they would most likely wake up to the real problems in the west

>>15485490
>being self sufficient
You're going to be absolutely annihilated bud. No firearms, no one to defend you from military bot vehicles designed to kill all goyims. They will just appropriate your property and make you a buttslave if not human cattle.

>>15485496
>technology frees us and makes shit abundant
for whom?
>People would now have time to think and focus on important shit
do you not understand it yet? it doesn't fucking matter how much free time you will have once you'll be "freed" from the foundation of your rights.

>>15485470
>except you're not the one in charge of transportation businesses, you're not the owner of any of these conglomerates in industry and agriculture.

oh fuck, so it's now but just more honest

>>15485501
>>15485512
it'll never get this bad, besides automation is not the real problem in your argument, ((they)) are

>>15485520
>TPTB aren't in charge of the ongoing automation... nah Jews won't kill us

>>15485487
what?

>>15485501
You're retarded, but what's stopping me from building my own military bot vehicles and equipping my firearms to that? If I have a 3D printer, machining tools, arduinos, etc, I and or my community of self sufficient autists could build us our own robot army of miniature 3d printed Glock weilding raspberry pi powered robots to keep us safe from government tyranny bots.

Oh right you're not looking for a debate, you want sympathy, attention, and people to agree with your doomer self defeatist ideals.

>>15485542
>t.
slavery still exists under new names
>>15485548
>what's stopping me from building my own military bot vehicles and equipping my firearms to that?
Doesn't matter, your A.I. will be infinitely inferior to theirs
>my community of self sufficient autists could build us our own robot army of miniature 3d printed Glock weilding raspberry pi powered robots to keep us safe from government tyranny bots.
I doubt you even have a community

>>15485533
the fact they control whatever industry doesnt make the tech bad. Population is growing, demand for products is growing, cost need to be reduced, profit margins increased etc its inevitable.
Whats also inevitable is the need for consumers, cause all that automation is obviously for production, and what do you produce for if not consumers.
Who's gonna organize and make this production possible, ubi welfare niggers? nobody's gonna get killed brainlet

>>15485558
I didn't say anything about slavery

>>15485548
>doomer self defeatist ideals.
stop being childish like that, all I'm doing is warning you not to push for gun control and complete automation

>>15485558
>Doesn't matter, your A.I. will be infinitely inferior to theirs
Doesn't matter, I have infinitely more 3D printed-raspberry-pi-glock-bots than them. Zerg Rush baby.

>>15485567
>Population is growing, demand for products is growing
The demand of the population won't matter if they're useless to the processes in the production of goods and services. Automation means zero costs for the elite and zero qualms for them to destroy most of humanity.

It's only a matter of time until the military is automated.
After that we will have passed the point of no return.
Theres nothing you can do but wait for death

>>15485582
then as long as you're not a replaceable retard you're good. Why are you not ok with hordes of useless retards getting culled anyway?

>>15485606
Regardless whether you are retarded or not, you will not be needed because of automation

>>15485621
>Regardless whether you are retarded or not, you will not be needed because of automation
>>15485582
>>15485582
>if they're useless to the processes in the production of goods and services.
good thing we're not useless, are we? are you low paid wagie?

>>15485623
>implying it'll matter that you're a middle-class "business owner"
you have clearly no brain capacity left, otherwise you'd understand their strategy

Who gives a fuck society is gonna collapse and 70% of the world population is gonna die to climate change soon

>>15485673
>society is gonna collapse
not for them

>>15485558
>the government is more competent than regulat people
You have a room temp IQ, they succeed because they're already in a far better starting position but no one can pay attention to government actions and walk away thinking theyre competent in any sense

>>15485653
fuck off we need a technocracy and to cull 80% of the west, stay scared wagie

>>15485673
The jew really got this one

>>15485680
You're so fucking bluepilled Jesus fucking Christ, the "government" is just an administration service, also easily replaceable

We should grow organs for insurance policies. Except instead of organs, grow clones in an underground facility and feed the clones lies about them being post apocalyptic survivors and give them xbox

>>15485685
>we need a technocracy
it won't be a technocracy, it will be the survival and freedom of the jews and no one else's

>>15485701
thats what we're trying to avoid, you cant stop technology / automation but you can change the direction it will take and how it will impact on society

>>15485710
>you can change the direction it will take
I'm hopeful that this might be possible, but I'm almost certain that the direction has already been set
>how it will impact on society
you cannot change its impact on society, "society" might not even be a thing in the next 10-15 years

>>15485732
look its easier to change power structures than to stop technological progress, thats the whole point. Your quarrel shouldnt be against fucking automation

>>15485744
>its easier to change power structures
it's impossible to change the power structures kek, they've bred too many loa IQ goyim cattle bots like you who are blind to the obvious circumstances

>>15485761
then give up and die already you weak scum, its hopeless anyway right

>human meat tastes better after 40 years wage slaving
>Get to work boy
>O-okay
>JUST WAGESLAVE FOR 40 YEARS BEFORE YOU'RE EATEN LOL

>>15485573
can anyone make a picardia anarco meme oy of this?

>>15485830
I'm not sure if you really understand the power structure enough. The Vatican has supreme institutional power over most of the globe, to the point where U.S. citizens aren't even citizens of the U.S.A., which were established in 1781, but property of the Papal state and the Queen of England. Freemasons have already infiltrated the Vatican a century ago for that reason... and who's behind Freemasonry? You guess the obvious.
If you hope for Jesus to come and rescue your ass, I'm not sure if you got scammed, but I'm certain it would be helpful to be jewish even on paper.

this dystopian future you’re describing is already the current reality

karl marx was a retarded nigger

>>15485860
yes yes many conspiracies and powerful groups, they are scared shitless these days, they know whats coming which is why they're trying to accelerate their shit which only makes it the more obvious even to the dumbest motherfucker. Everything changes this century you will see

>>15485548
But you won’t.

>>15485571
It’s tge same as fussing a coin in this place. It’s an echo chamber with less than 100 actual unique users. You’re NOT making a difference. You’re depressed as fuck.

>>15485949
Not sure how you know that things will change, I hope you can keep up the hope and look at your kids thinking they won't just be meat for Cohen. I sincerely wish for you and others with a family the very best, but you need to take in account everything that I said.

>>15485975
this place has many more users actually, most people just don't bother posting. It's usually 10k posts daily.

>>15485983
im aware of what you're saying and much more. I know things look bleak but they're gonna take unexpected turns, people are not as gullible as you think and they're getting mad

>>15486004
>people are not as gullible as you think and they're getting mad
yes but aren't they cucks aswell?

>>15486016
no, generally speaking. Conformist maybe, cause people are comfy now. Anon when shit hits the fan, there is no work or money and million of whites are taking the streets demanding change, armed groups form and all that shit can change fast and there's nothing cohen can do about it

>>15485307
In this case, there are far more people than ever before and far less jobs available. Billions more, in fact, to the time you speak of. When smart contracts kick in, businesses are going to be rendered obsolete left and right due to the sheer value, seamlessness, and flexibility of smartcontracts.

You're underestimating how many people are going to go out of a job, especially office jobs. Sure, new ones will be created, but it'll be a drop in the bucket to how many were lost.

>>15486066
look at France. The yellow vests are an utter failure.

>>15486140
thats some controlled or at least hijacked group, nothing to do with whats coming in the next decades

>>15486066
>>15486170
Boy you're naive.

>>15486170
every upcoming group will either be controlled or hijacked. I know they're using astrology to time the economic events, cultural and political trends, even for lyrics in songs. it's absolutely impossible to outsmart such an advanced circle, I knew a guy who was part of some pagan lodge which was originally designed for specific plans, but members ended up acting retarded, only talking about dresses, weird rank bs and elected a Jew who just banned everyone who criticized the absolute state of things. lmfao I have enough, I'm legitimately considerating circumcision at this point.

OP, are you unironically a lolbertardian?

>>15486233
Paleo-conservative actually, but a fair system doesn't work with a majority of dicklets.

>>15486066
This.
Western commoners only appear to be docile because they have most of their needs and desires fulfilled.
Overly-aggressive automation would inevitably lead to revolution.

That said, I think the most likely decline/collapse scenario is the same as the Roman one: ratcheting erosion of the tax base.
The lower classes are increasingly unable to pay, while the wealthy are increasingly unwilling.

>>15486216
those are baby larpers, we got powerful men on our side even if you dont believe it, they're the reason we're not slave cattle already. Anon whats coming is gonna make nazis look like harmless doves. That esoteric stuff those 'advanced' circles use? literally feeding off the masses, once they lose hold on them its over
>>15486214
you're clueless to whats really going on

>>15486303
>Overly-aggressive automation would inevitably lead to revolution.
Revolution will simply not be possible then.
>The lower classes are increasingly unable to pay, while the wealthy are increasingly unwilling
Except the lower classes will simply cease to exist.

>>15485496
Look up the book “four futures”

>>15486316
>we got powerful men on our side
in the military, not only in the U.S. but in other Western governments aswell. however there have already been plans laid out and, compared to the current gear available to tech giants, the military is a joke.

>>15485307
Yeah I mean you can do anything in the world in a fully automated world. Wait in such a world robots will do everything better than you.RETARD

>>15485291
Yeah I know, we're headed for a neo-medievalism. Try to make it before they completely close the doors for newcomers.

>>15485558
>pulls out gun
*DODGES NUKE!!!!1!1!1**

>>15485307
Automation will make you obsolete

>>15486359
The author is a communist faggot

>>15487069
what if these labels were just designed to keep you too distracted from the ultimate truth of life?

>>15487119
That doesn't change commie faggots being retarded.

>>15487147
what if such simplicity of thought would render you retarded aswell

>>15485291
Twitter bravado aside, slaughter free meat is the future of food. Even if it's just for the resource efficiency in producing it and the environmental aspects of it, it is definitely worth the trade off.

Dawkins is a major league cunt though

>>15485291
>Eating human meat grown in a lab,

If you get that Prions stuff out of it o wouldn't mind tho

>>15487180
are you sure that slaughter free meat will provide a similar quality of nutrients? I wouldn't make the bet

>>15485291
Sorry, did not read your post before answering. Automation is good for us for one reason: as technology advances decentralized garage companies will be able to innovate faster than monolithic multinational conglomerates

Just take a look into pinephone, which is basically a small form raspberry pi turned into a smartphone that doesn't need to use iOS or Android and all the backdoors and snooping associated with these two operating systems

Now extrapolate this into smart people thinking shit up, putting it through rapid prototyping and then producing shit that undercuts Monolith CO LTD... The future is bright anon, Rothschilds can't stop progress even though they think they own the right to do so

If you're here you should be able to understand the true power of decentralization

>>15487185
I think they'll just start slaughtering migrants for food and sell it as (((lab-grown))) human meat

>>15485490
Yeah baby that's the kind of shit I like to see

>>15487220
You should have read the post, though nice counter argument. The problem is that once they've rendered most people as absolute nobodies, decentralization will stop taking place.

>>15487208
You can provide even better omega3/6 ratios and everything you want. Basically from what I understood from doing a couple of deep dives on the subject is that you use the same tech that produces insulin for diabeetuses;

>get you some yeast

>replace yest nucleus with protein that helps fetuses grow

>repeat above step for all proteins found in amniotic fluid

>drop some beef cells in your freshly GMOd amniotic fluids (with extra PUFAs, cause you want a healthy burger)

>?????

>eat slaughter free burgers with extra omegas like a boss, instead of eating glyphosate corn and onions fed brahmins

>>15487274
>better omega3/6 ratios
what's with minerals

>>15485680
The government isn't inherently more competent, but it's more organized and resourceful.
The citizens are divided and stripped off resources and the government made it so and continues to support the divide and resource regulation.

Worst case scenario the government will just escalate the cultural/political/racial divide and let retards kill each other in the streets.

>>15487242
No, I did read the post the second time. My first answer was in regards to OPs pic related.

I honestly believe that automation + decentralization = cat's out of the bag and people can be free(er) because they regain the means of production from monolithic companies.

People here really need to understand that big corps are filled with devoid of imagination brainlets. Sure - you can't outspend these cunts. However, it is not hard to out-think them and when you can produce goods as fast as you can think it up, you can beat them at their own game.

Look the pinephone up and extrapolate from that. Not shilling for them, I just really like their bussiness model (actually, I am shilling for them, just doing it for free)

>>15487290
That's my point exactly, you will be dropping pure minerals when feeding your amniotic fluid yeasts, which means that your food will be nutrient and mineral dense as it used to be before modern agro depleted the world's soils

I approve of your skeptisism broseph, but don't allow it to make you see everything black

>>15487332
> and people can be free(er) because they regain the means of production from monolithic companies.
Technological advancement doesn't make you free, because the entry level requires exponentially more financing.
It's like with bitcoin, the more it grew, the more simple neets got cut off and the hashrate got concentrated in the hands of a few corporations. If you think that decentralization will make you free, you're a retard, the decentralization will make the banks and the megacorps free from the government and put you into the slave pens.

>>15487311
>Worst case scenario the government will just escalate the cultural/political/racial divide and let retards kill each other in the streets.
I suppose they're banking on video games, SSRIs, obesity, and such to keep said retards from mustering up the energy for troublemaking

>>15487332
Alright so for lazy retards, short summary:
>the elite is behind the push for complete automation
>automation of all processes in the production of goods and services = no need to keep goyim around, because no slavery needed
>you will be drawn off their property (institutionally speaking it's (((theirs))) ) and shot in the head

>>15485501
O ya bich?

>>15487372
That, creating red herring enemies and mass surveillance.
Nowadays one can only go lone wolf, and even then the chance is he'll shoot some beaners at the wallmart instead of a government building in minecraft.

The best bet is to use their own weapon, escalate things out of control and create chaos. Tarrant had the right idea.

>>15487410
>Tarrant

>>15487369
You're confusing neoliberalism with decentralization, so you probably should'be going around calling other people retards

Decentralization: everyone has the ability of using the same resources to produce shit

Neoliberalism: corporations overcentralize the means of production through regulatory capture (by using blackmail on pedo politicians and bribes on everyone else) so that only they can produce shit

They are literally exact oposites. The whole thing about decentralization is that it eliminates centralized power, which has produced terrible results for life on this planet

The reason bitcoin has been co-opted by centralized entities is that they fear decentralization and are trying to feed you the wrong kind of it, as is the case with btrash and gigabyte blocks (that only datea centers can validate)

>>15487424
I bet you didn't even read his manifesto.

>>15487383
Alright for even lazier retards, shorter summary:
>stop letting (((them))) demoralize you, this is exactly what they want

>>15487426
You are a brainlet.
No one regulated the hashrates of crypto, yet 51% of BTC hashrate and 65% of ETH hasrate are owned by 3 people.

>>15487426
even though you're correct about the difference there, automation won't help the decentralization process in the long run, but helps the neoliberals at creating their zionist paradise
>>15487451
>muh demoralisation
It's not my fault you decided to put kids into this situation. if you think I'm simply demoralized and not being realistic, you don't know their goals

>>15487410
Isn't the current power structure in the best position to turn potential chaos to their advantage? Even more so when people like Tarrant are deemed the quintessential Hollywood villain

>>15485326
Are you like 15? Wtf is wrong with this board. The absolute state...

>>15487447
his manifesto is garbage, designed to make boomers want to throw their lives away for a dozen less black people

>>15487464
In three letters, XMR. ASIC resistance is a thing

Also, you conveniently forget that ALL banking institutions are 99% owned by a single family.

You are an actual idiot (which is obvious by your self admitted propensity of believing in obvious psyops such as tarrant) and you want to drag others down to your cesspit of misery and despair for company.

Have fun rolling around in the shit, you'll be forever alone in there. You sound like a prime candidate for some rope buying desu, at least that way you can help the genepool

I'm out, got shit to do. Was fun chatting with the rest of y'all

>>15487495
>n-no, automation won't just render you useless OF COURSE you will have a different role in this economy... you're obviously underage if you disagree
make factual arguments or don't bother

>>15487474
I'm not saying they won't try, I'm saying I don't believe they will succeed. The fact that the neolibs employ a bunch of unimaginative brainlets is our biggest advantage.

Anyway, fun chat but I really have to hit it gg

>>15487524
You're being very unreasonable, you might think you've got a chance at this game, and I highly hope so, but I'm just not seeing it. They can just appropriate whatever you have with little effort once they've gone fully self-sustained.

>>15487547
Well, what are the roles for these unimaginative brainlets? Do you really think the establishment doesn't know what it's doing?

>>15487487
>>15487503
His manifesto says the goal is to escalate, doesn't matter for which side. No one cares about the goatfuckers or blacks. It's about chaos.

>>15487646
order out of chaos... that's their game

Everything gets automated then no jobs so the Gov has to give universal basic income NEETS win again

>>15487874
NEETs will have to rope sadly

>>15485307
Everyone one on this board is fucking retarded so it's it makes sense that they have these absolutely braindead ideas about automation being bad. No use trying to convince them otherwise.

>>15485291

>you won't be able to strike or protest

I guess you amerimutts forgot about not buying their products...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

>>15488172
you won't be able to buy products either because it's going to be A.I. driven communism.

>>15487951
>doesn't give reasons as to why automation is good
>calls everyone retarded to reinforce his belief