/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15443712
thx bb

>>15443659
why should this be the tip of an iceburg

forget dogs of the dow, lets look at the short side and figure the next ge! next delisted from dow, and pizer or what ever cums close

>>15443747
What?

How the fuck is Lyft still at 48 a share! They have bagholders in the 80,70,60,50 and now 49 range I can’t believe this shit hasn’t flash crashed yet

PLAYING DWARF SUCKS GET MORE HEAD. ACTUALLY HEAD IS THE BEST WHEN YOU CUM IN HER MOUTH,

FUCK IT DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO, THIS GAME GETS -5 STARS

>>15443837
MMOs are for boomers only
zoomers don't have the attention span to play non-phone games

you should be watching GSL right now anyway it's hilarious

>my olli calls

>>15443856
Where does LoL fall on the boomer/zoomer spectrum?

>>15443880
I'm an ARAM-only chad
some TFT

LoL is millennial only and should be avoided if possible

>>15443895
I quit LoL, but I'm on that soiboi Smash Ultimate shit now, wanna neck myself everyday

>>15443758
THE DOW. THE DOW IS FOR FAGGOTS AND BLACKS. IVE SAID THIS MANY TIMES.

>recession is canceled
>recession is near
>recession is postponed
which one is right?

Why aren't you using leverage Anon?

>>15444042
The recession is nearly over, prepare your ass for the recovery. We're gonna see S&P 30,000.

>>15444138
It better happen Monday or we're going back to the bottom of the snib range again.

>>15444329
uh, Tuesday. Long weekend.

>>15444334
why are the markets closed on monday?

>>15444350
communist holiday

Wait can I actually make money solely off the premium from closing a sell call option early?

>Sell covered call
>1.50 strike price
>0.05 premium

Later on but over a week before expiration

>Buy call
>$1.50 strike price
>0.02 premium

Literally 0.03 per share in profit. Am I missing something? Its in a stock volatile enough to go back to a 0.05 premium in 48 hours.

>>15444356
what holiday? the event calendar on both Nasdaq and NYSE doesn't show anything for the 31st of August-

>>15444377
today (Saturday) is the 31st of August. Markets are always closed on Saturday.

Monday is the 2nd of September. Markets are usually open on Monday, but they are closed this coming Monday because of a national holiday in the US.

>>15444383
ah fuck. i meant for next monday, not today. yeah, it's labor day. thanks for the correction anon

TTHIS FUCKING GAME SUCKS!! I COULD HAVE GOT A BUNCHA COKE FOR THAT $40... I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH THIS WOW CLASIC SUCKS. GIVE ME RTS OR CHESS

AFTER SITTING IN A 4-HOUR LINE... I GET SOME QUESTS, AND FUCK QUESTS, NO PHAT LOOT.... NO ACTUAL GOALS.... WOW CLASSIC SUCKS.

WHERE IS THE REAL SHIT, LIKE FUCKING.... WE START WITH THE SAME 5 THINGS AND WE CAN'T CRY ABOUT BALANCE AND PLAY A GENTLEMEN'S GAME... FUCK WOW CLASSIC UP IT'S ASS I HOPE THIS MONEY GRAB FUNDS E-SPORTS AND ISN'T USED TO LINE SHAREHOLDER'S POCKETS.

>>15444484
so I shouldnt buy it? I feel like im missing out on all the fun

>>15444509
I feel like you have to start playing MMOs at the very first day and grind hard in the beginning to stay ahead of most of the players
Maybe WoW isn't like that, I dunno
but if you aren't playing with people right now, they'll be ahead of you in levels, so there will be a disconnect

also only certain types of people are OK with paying fifteen dollars ($15) per month to play a single video game

like to me, it doesn't matter how much money I have or how much money I earn: I will never spend any money on entertainment service subscriptions. None. But $15 every month to sit in a 5 hour queue is comical. You gotta admire Blizzard for that.

>>15444509
WELL IF YOU WANT TO HAVE FUN. DON'T BUY IT AND PUT THAT FUCKING 15 BUCKS TO LIKE SOMETHING BETTER LIKE YOUR LOCAL COMIC BOOK AND HENTAI STORE. OR JUST FUCKING GET 15 $1 BAGS OF DORITOS AND FUCKING SHOWER YOUR SELF WITH THEM AND ROLL AROUND NAKED IN THE CHIPS.... IT'S HONESTLY MORE LIBERATING AND A BETTER USE OF THAT $15,,, FUCKERS GOT ME FOR LIKE 40 OR SOMETHING

ima try this again, #tarotbro's realm @nokneeguards is my name.

This would not be a misunderstanding
In this era, the world is not yet allowed to pursue the profound and noble potential of content
Then
What should we do now
Is n’t it a war?
No, there is no world without war
Including conflicts between internal reserves and growth policies
You should at least think you still needed to figure out something
For example, before you vote, ask if it ’s genuine.
Japanese antiques have real and fake even the lid of the box
So in order to purchase them, you must first carefully determine their authenticity
Exactly the same
Because the essence of things often appears there.
It ’s good if you do n’t want to crush your personal satisfaction.
If that's all you need
I do n’t say who ’s lid
Politics is also a war
The market is also war
And love is also a war
There are few people looking for the true ideal partner from end to end in the world, and even fewer people have the power and time to make it possible
But originally there may be fewer people who can find the ideal partner even in the center of their heart.
The whispering happiness of those who were stabbed by repression by Anus Leader may have paid the barrier to reach there
Anyway, it would have been a little necessary
Okay?
But never come to Japan
Never come to our Japan, the empire of the gods
The Olympics are coming soon
I'm sorry but you guys watch on your TV
TVs are already being distributed at reasonable prices.

>>15444366
Bump. Any holes in my theory?

>>15444620
you are making demands that a smaller man who required kneegaurds would never approach... there is one woman maybe 3 or 4, that i will make many happa children with... japan is my oyster.

>>15444620
japan is lucky we let head kneegaurd in chief come over there and let you start building aeroplanes again... it's right that you're kissing our ass.

>>15444620
for the record... her ancestors are going to love the kids and futures these babies bring. their pride will be in both their mother's country and USA, but meh fuck it.... i'ma be lucky if i knock up one broad and have a happa daughter who turns into a giant whore.... fuck it.

>>15444620
i'd argue the biggest #war is the one within ones self... The relationships that help you now will make you the person you are 5 years from now.

>>15444620
>Japanese antiques have real and fake even the lid of the box
>So in order to purchase them, you must first carefully determine their authenticity
>Exactly the same
deep shit
real shit


>The whispering happiness of those who were stabbed by repression by Anus Leader may have paid the barrier to reach there
I need some translation to understand what you mean here


>It ’s good if you do n’t want to crush your personal satisfaction.
>If that's all you need
>I do n’t say who ’s lid
I'm also a bit unclear on this part right here

>>15444671
>>The whispering happiness of those who were stabbed by repression by Anus Leader may have paid the barrier to reach there
those who got fucked standing up against the status quo opened the flood gates for others to follow suit.

>>15444671
>>It ’s good if you do n’t want to crush your personal satisfaction.
>>If that's all you need
>>I do n’t say who ’s lid
>I'm also a bit unclear on this part right here
it's the leading sandwich for the rest of the speech, but it's basically fuck off and shut up

>>15444671
i think i really might love asian women and their culture.... the broken english and the they express themselves so naturally yet so foreign.... i just uhh don't think there's ever coming down from this yellow fever i have succumb to... especially the northern ones that still have pink nipples with the blackish red hair and sideways vagina... there's no coming back from that.

>>15444712
>>15444671
i mean don't get me wrong, be it nip or gook... even chink, i'd drain my balls in this one girl and help her the whole way let her pop out a kid only so i could drain my balls in her like 3 or 4 more times.

>>15444728
Why would you ruin your child by giving them asian genes?

>>15444728
>>15444712
man we have some random young nip coming into our thread and posting some wisdom... asking you to stay out of Japan and all that.
And your reply is some autistic yellow fever shit. not very diplomatic. this little gook is about to start training to enact pearl harbor 2.0 tonight and it's your fault

at least that's the vibe I'm getting here. I don't speak weaboo so I can't really be sure about the specifics

Tradingview is nice, check the 8hour chart on uos, also rising in volume

>>15444758
gooks are korean you fucking moron, learn the difference.... that's like calling a sand nigger a hindu

>>15444758
>start training to enact pearl harbor 2.0 tonight and it's your fault
fucking bring it, guam is more strategic anyway., if they want hawaii fucking bring it.

you don't piss off americans while their pissed off at each other... history has shown us to be our only true adversary, and if a foreign power trys to assert dominance, just look back to russia russia russia.... it was fake news but half the country ate it up, when the whole country or 80% of it anyway eats it up, you're totally fucked.

like look at iraq and afghanistan, what has this been since desert storm? 30 years? don't fuck with america, we will keep fucking and fuck you harder in return.

and for the record, asian girls look in my blue eyes like it's something they want to stare at for a million years, and i can look at asians and call them out on their roots of origin, the misnomer that all asians look alike is wrong, but it's like talll 6 foot 7 niggers stand out especially next to like 5 foot one broads. I hate it, but ima love my lighter skinned asians.

also nips kinda are cool, my favorite thing is the suppuku... ritual suicide should be encouraged and practiced in america, but you get these death by cop assholes or the fake news media spins the narrative differently claiming mass killing... we should have right to die laws and euthanasia in america, but big pharma and hospitals, psychologists need mental health patients, so only true liberal states will even fathom shit like that, but as a true jeffersonian liberal, i would encourage more states to have laws to protect assisted suicide, and as a true liberal, im still fiscally conservative so fuck off regressive progressives.

it's 5am and im still drinking.,... uhh what ever.

stock market should be green in honor of communism appreciation day... i hope that gommie faggot bleeds red, funneling into bonds the way he did.... fuck him. 3 day weekends are worse than a fucking 2 week vacation.... i wish i could work 18 hours a day 7 days a week.

OLLI bros unite. Its all gonna be ok, just wait for your time to come.

It took some time for us not to have violent shame that would make us traumatize slowly before our message
Unreasonable hierarchical relationships exist everywhere
A company that does not allow you to create a labor organization, or a relationship that is already accomplice with the company
Whether it ’s tent people or not, it ’s just a story every day in the country.
You look like tears in your eyes
Take a deep breath and get around so you don't get lost
Breathe with your eyes
If you send oxygen to your eyes and say the right thing quietly like Alain Delon, no one will be distracted
This may work because there has been a strong intellectual and aesthetic disparity between Japanese people since long ago, but
Well, if you can't protect yourself by yourself in the event of an emergency, wait forever for a gift from Santa
Okay?
Send oxygen to your eyes and speak in a calm voice
Don't say "F-" "F-"
It doesn't mean anything
It feels bad as a man
Don't say anymore
This is not selfish as a crying baby in developing countries
Is that the trap?


Oh dear_____________
Be careful

>>15444978
how the fuck did i miss OLLI i was supposed to be buying every fucking ticker ITT....

>>15445045
>Breathe with your eyes
i haven't had enough mushrooms, but you're right i should get some mushrooms, i think it's almost season.... gotta go for a hike and see if I can't find them. thank you care i will take, and understanding share with others i will.

>>15445068
idk I shouted as much I could about it on Thursday. It pulled back with general markets yesterday, but I'm still looking to cash out calls if it can climb back up to 58.50

If next week stocks don't take a fat dumb it should pump to it even if only temporarily.

>>15445095
lots of people took profits today and I don't blame them... the really funny thing, was thursday we saw a spot volatility, spy and tlt (long term bonds) were all moving in the same motion at the same time... robot jews, but seriously, when the market is moving like that at least 1 side is totally fucking wrong.

>>15445114
I almost kinda hope it all crashes in like a year or something. I want to all in GLAD at 3 bucks.

>>15445134
see... i don't want a big ass crash because of the much larger ramifications regarding the average american.... i'd prefer if people are content... of fuck if peope are content there's no growth.... fuck i just cursed the fucking market... complacency creates weakness and breeds more weakness.... it's a curse... only cure is self destructive behavior and time. like the salem witch trials.

Do n’t go out of the country easily
In other words, bet your life on the spot without physically going out of the country.
That was n’t always difficult.
Some of them try to leave developing countries and start new failed countries.
By the way
Space development is still too early for humanity
Especially in the former communist bloc
Proud of such things is like coming out of Off-White yourself
Eat rice
Rice
If you want to be strong and wise like us, Japanese
And communists go back to Russia
In fact, Russia is the best place to rest every winter.
I heard that more than half of your life is already feces

Oh dear_____________
BagholderExtraordinaire!

Speaking of feces is your religion
Stop worshiping the cross for the time being
At a minimum, suicides do not deliver bombs

when will the global market move up bros
everything is so sucky sucky

>>15445194
woke

most /smg/ posters will not be able to understand your wisdom
but your time in google translate isn't wasted fake-nippon-kun

>>15445222
crab for the next decade is 65% probability
deal with it

>>15445230
crab?

>>15444366
Yes, you can close early and still profit. Options premiums naturally tend toward $0 over time. Usually it makes the most sense to just hold, you could do what you said and it's possible the premiun could increase and you could make more money.

This intense conversation between Bagholder and NipAnon is fascinating. Both sides make compelling points vis a vis Japanese antiques and sideways vagina.

>>15445230
Korean has a long history
As a parasite to Japan
Many of them shape their faces imitating Japanese ideals
Speaking of which, it seems that the British royal family was a little different from the average British appearance
Both seem to want to get married from the average commoner
There will be doubts, but the ideal bride
Blood density seems to have an effect on crime rates and should not be ignored
It's clear statistics from Koreans who like their mothers and their sisters and sisters
True powers, such as the Tokugawa family, can avoid being bloody but
A general who lived in a flashy castle took beauty from his vassals nationwide.
The humble and respected Emperor earnestly married his relatives
The Emperor, Tennouheika, is dedicated to serving the gods on behalf of the Japanese
Of course, there is a theory that the ancestors of the ancient Emperor are the gods.
Is there no gaijin that anyone can deny?


Oh dear_____________
gaijin people, be careful

looks like things in HK are escalating a bit tonight. Still "controlled" but there is some impatience brewing.
this weekend could be a flashpoint

hoping to hear from HK anon sometime this weekend

Korean has a long history
Just as a parasite to Japan
Many of them shape their faces imitating Japanese ideals
Speaking of which, it seems that the British royal family was a little different from the average British appearance
Both seem to want to get married from the average commoner
There will be doubts, but the ideal bride
Blood density seems to have an effect on crime rates and should not be ignored
It's clear statistics from Koreans who like their mothers and their sisters and sisters
Although true powers, such as the Tokugawa family, once lived in a flashy castle, it can be avoided that Shougun is getting bloody by taking beauty from the vassals nationwide.
On the other hand, the humble and respected emperor family got married from a relative
The Emperor, Tennouheika, only serves the gods on behalf of all Japanese people
Of course, there is a theory that the ancestors of the ancient Emperor are the gods.
Is there no gaijin that anyone can deny?

Oh dear_____________
gaijin people, be careful
Real Japanese don't speak English well
We will hate you
This is natural, right?
We want peace more than anyone
Arrange your religion once again and be courteous
A little bit uncomfortable
We haven't told you for a long time to help us

>>15443880
max zoomer

Tennouheika is an emperor inherited for three thousand years
That's not to say
What you should say to someone who knows the correct answer to what your organization should do may be a refusal to do it
It looks interesting
But it can be said that
A country that forges its history and spreads ridiculous misunderstandings after gladly handing over the administration to foreign countries
In other words, Korea did not complain to the eerie, but rather gladly accepted the Japanese annexation.
That is normal, but
so any Kramer is promising considering that

You guys, handsome gaijin people
What do you think about this?

Oh dear_____________
Friend, but be careful
I'm not bald and don't tell you a convenient lie

>>15445799

>>15445867
don't you speak some Japanese?
try and communicate with him directly
he wants to invade Korea again and he's looking for our approval

>>15445873
Ok, I'll give it a shot.

>>15445799
おい、何いってんの?何言いたいの?お前の英語あまりわからないよ。

>>15444632
You have to pick winners in the premium selling game to account for slippage. You may be able to sell at .1 and won't get a fill at .2

>>15445873
大丈夫
あとはグーグルで

>>15445879
不都合なら読まないでいいだろう?
俺は嘘など言ってない

>>15445906
いや、それじゃなくて。本当にお前の言いたいこと全然わからない。韓国人嫌いってこと?

>>15445941
韓国人は韓国人の話しかしないよな
なんでお前らなんかと鼻差にゃならんw
笑わすぜ
俺が書いていることは韓国中心じゃないぜ
それに変換はあえて不自然にする
お前が日本語を理解できるならできるようにな

>>15445962
ふざけるな。鼻差なんて。そっか、もっと一般に書いているか。俺悪かった、ごめん。で、結局何言いたいの?

What is the consensus on dividend growth investing? How much stock would you need to own for $100k of dividends? I'm guessing something like $1.5m

>>15446003
お前ら韓国人w朝鮮人のための正しい広報活動だよさ

>>15446011
>What is the consensus on dividend growth investing
extremely dank

>How much stock would you need to own for $100k of dividends? I'm guessing something like $1.5m

The whole point of dividend growth investing is that you could invest only, say $100K now and then at some point in the future (50 years, more or less) you might expect to get $100K or so yearly in dividends
that's the idea of yield-on-cost. It's not just cost and yield, there is a time component. Actually the time component is the most important, time will work for you to get you more money AND more yield. Very nice stuff.

If you buy 1.5M of super high-yield stocks today, you could get $100k/year after tax, but it would be all risky yields. Those would be yields that might not grow that much.
Better to buy 1.5M of high quality stocks, that might only yield 10k-20k right now, but their yields (and share prices) will keep growing consistently as the years go by...

>>15446032
俺アメリカ人だよ。韓国人のこと関係ない。

>>15446011
That's my strat. While you can very conservatively estimate an overall yield on your portfolio to be around 3%, it would be around 3 mil although you could get some stable high yielders, around 6%, and get 100k per year on 1.5 mil. However that strat would be shitty. The goal is the "growth" part. You buy companies that will continually grow their dividend every year so after 20 years or so down the road, on you initial purchase of the stock, you get 10%+ yield that continues to grow. Its a slow game desu

>>15446043
understood
Everyone understood, too

>>15446235
>Everyone understood, too
Not really, but ok. You might be on the wrong board.

何でここに日本語を話すの?株ついて英語で話しましょう!

LONG AMD
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3000-32-core-64-thread-cpu-userbenchmark-30-percent-faster-2990wx/

>>tfw cant write NEED options

weekends are boring as fuck without the stock market. i'm getting tired of playing CKII

>>15446620
try an intense 6 hour workout session followed by 8 hours of studying geology or forestry

>>15446707
>6h workout

who are you, the rock on steroids?

>>15446065
Imagine 1.5 mil qyld

Sucky week. But fuck it. I'm down -2.35% so all in all not to bad.

PINS will I hope, be another FB in the making. (Yeah I know it ain't the same but its closest to what PINS is) One day PINS will be sitting at $100 per. I'll be celebrating like mad! Or who knows maybe they'll get bought as they get bigger over time. I'll still be celebrating if it's true. Or now this is a gamble but perhaps as the stock price grows one day they'd give out a stock split to shareholders. A 2:1 or 4:1 would be pretty sweet.

AMRN will kick the FDA's ass end of this year. Then a buyout or no buyout I'll be sitting on a nice Green Pile. The stock will be flying high. $45 - 50 per and I'm selling like mad! If no buyout happens though.

LGF is down, yeah I won't sugar coat it. But now that the streaming wars are here they'll get bought soon. The previous attempts failed due to them wanting to sell the whole company not just part of it. But like I said, The Streaming Wars are here. Beggars can't be choosers and if they want LGF they'll pay and get the whole company to get the content LGF has.

>>15446983
Then for the long game till I'm dead and gone that is I've got these:

T-Babies
DIS
GE
BHGE
VTI
KHC
KDP
QYLD
Comcast

Never will I sell these. Let those Divvys reinvest themselves over the long haul. Be sitting on a nice Green bed when I walk out of my "company" when retirement time hits

TRQ accumulation is going well. Get on this train boys, easy 10x if you got the patience to hold 3-5 years.

>>15447037
How is it easy?

waiting for an entry point for unilever (UL)

>>15447079
I don't know... (moron)

>>15447216

>>15447246
They just want you to sell so they can buy your shares.

Hot tip... Samsung has a net annual income of more than $61 trillion! I had no idea Samsung was that big. Apple is small potatoes in comparison. For comparison AAPL's net income is something like $74 Billion (i.e. a thousand times less). The ticker is SSNLF. It appears to be trading at somewhat of a premium now.

>>15447246
>analyst recommendation
Bro.... as someone in the field DO NOT follow that shit. Prolly reads motley too lmfao.

>>15447079
Also on a real note their price plummeted due to intangible adjustments on the BS. Parent company is using "earnings management".

>>15447390
yeah ive noticed that their recommendations are shit on marketbeat, buy for overpriced stuff and hold/sell for stuff on discount desu

>>15445237
>>15445899
So my theory is correct. Asking as I shouldnt have put the premium as low as I did. Believe it may have been lower than that at one point so trying to buy it back.

I know it's the weekend but god damn like go out and make some friends or fuck off or something for at least 5 minutes

>>15447363
south korea is practically the republic of samsung. they are in every industry out there

>>15447363
what the fuck? how the hell? where does so much fucking money come from? even MSFT's market cap is only 1T

>>15447363
>>15447946
ITs not dollars its ching chong money

>>15448018
o that's true. same thing happened to me with japanese companies. tho it says dollars in there. weird.

What movie are we watching tonight?

>>15444484
I said it many times, wow and mmo was funy ages ago when it was new to mankind, now only thing wow could offer is nostalgia and nostalgia lasts hyper short time

>>15447720
fucking baggie... shitting up the thread.....

>>15443856
>you should be watching GSL right now anyway it's hilariours

>tfw just unironically watched last days gsl group

>>15447720
Makes me feel better about my life, least im not shit posting every minute to nobody in /smg/ drunk off my ass at 5 am

ryvyx 30x returns

>>15448334
Gozu

LYFT

>>15448999
Trips of truth. Do you think Lyft will make it gwim?

>>15444509
Samesies

Can we play something piratable or free? I'd rather buy stocks than games.

>>15444104
NEED is a superior leveraged fund

What shit should we be buying before we get hit with price increases from tariffs? Shoes and clothes, maybe?

I’ve got some gift cards, thinking I should look into Labor Day sales because we may not be getting cheap clothes like we’re used to once tariffs really kick in.

I would like to see how dobbs' portfolio Balance holds up in the period immediately following yield curve inversion of 10-2's. Also curious if it takes into account all the taxes from daily rebalancing (I assume we can consider the loss of pennies in robinhood "fees" is negligible)

Gonna be essentially drunk for the next few days, any good calls/puts I should set now before I forget and the markets open Tuesday morning?

Narrator:
>things are gettin weird over on the long /smg/ weekend.

>>15449740
I showed you my losses now answer me

I'm sad frens.
Is there a realistic chance to avoid wagecucking?
As far as I see it there are the following trading related options.
>make an forex/futures algo
Forex and futures mostly because it's uninterrupted with no opening gaps. Also not so much news flow which puts more weight on long term fundamentals and TA/analysis/statistics/prediction models...
I don't think it's so hard to find a strat that works at least for a while but it's a shitton of work from data apis to data storing and structuring to the algo itself + error checking and other shit. That's a lot of work for a single brainlet like me. Jimmy/James/John/whatever Simmons says that efficient market hypothesis is approximately
true which is not good. It basically means that there is no edge and approximately means that edges form, work for a while and stop working.
We can either brute force a working algo, also called overfitting and hope that we overfit a little into the future. People already do this => the timeframe where those algos will work will become shorter. What after that?
Am I seeing this too dire? Is efficient market a meme after all?

The other options are gambling and p&ds.

Not ashamed to show my losses

>>15449765
I presume my portfolio would do quite well. It‘s weighted to be on/near the efficient frontier, so for whatever risks I do endure there is a maximized reward to go with it. I expect volatility to decrease as well over time, and I think now is a great time to short volatility.

>>15443710
Knight Transportation INC and Autodesk are working well for me.

>>15449831
But you can't use your modeling technique to backtest for post-inversion periods?

>>15449901
no lol these etfs are pretty young (svxy was made in 2011). The original study on upro/tmf was backtested through before inception though, and it held up fine.

POOPOO PEEPEE!!!

T-Babies - Holding up quite good despite all the Shit going on in the world now. If you bought during the last winter mega dip (as I did) you'd be showing Green no mater what shit has happened thus far this year. You'd also be collecting a Fat Divvy to boot.

The Rally is not over yet either. He's still got more room to climb. 40 per is not unreasonable. So next time there's a slight dip I'd jump aboard while you could. Look at DIS. Last year/first part of this one it was at $109 - 110 range. Now $130+ is it.

Let's be real, guys... What's the best dividend-stock ETF?

Are there any worthwhile films or TV shows about trading?

>>15450370
VTI - Get both growth and income stocks. Also pays out an 0.55 x 4 divvy.

For options plays yet you don't feel like doing the work yourself (or feel confident you know what the hell your doing) get QYLD. It pays out at 0.16 x 12 Divvy Just my thoughts.

>>15448514
those are some pretty boys ~

>>15449504
lots of shoes are made in China (almost everything adidas, most nike, etc.). Most clothes aren't but some are -> it's dependent on the brand. There is enough clothes production outside of China that you should be OK.
"Research" chemicals made in China -> if you don't know what I mean don't worry about it.
any random cheap knick-knack or kitchen appliance that you want to buy on Amamzon or Alibaba, might as well just buy it now -> they aren't going to get any cheaper.

>>15450404
I’ve never had the balls to try any research chems from China/Russia...
I hadn’t even thought about that, but I’ll stick with going it natty for now.

>>15450370
i used to own these 2 ETFs
-SPHD, high yield but imo has shittier companies and somewhat less growth than
-NOBL, all dividend aristocrats (25+ years of increasing their dividends), has a lower yield but has more capital appreciation

also ETFs are gay because you pay people to buy overpriced and (some) shitty companies

>>15450395
check out the shows at https://www.tradingview.com/shows/
I like
https://www.tradingview.com/shows/real-vision-the-edge/how-i-got-my-start-in-finance/
and
https://www.tradingview.com/shows/real-vision-the-edge/real-vision-classics/

There are fantastic, priceless gems of videos and interviews on youtube as well, you just have to find them. they are buried in the massive billion video shitheap that is youtube (and youtube will always recommend you the "popular" crap that their algorithm favors, so you have to use your nose to find the good from the bad)


>>15450414
get big or die
stock up on all the chemicals that you can now, you won't get another chance. Anything "grey-market" that you can still order to your house or PO box. Even if you don't use them yourself, their black market value should go up if the gates to China get closed.

HDD storage. Pretty sure the Trade shit effects the price of HDDs to. So if you need to expand your server storage space or backups I'd get moving. Depending on your needs this is not a cheap thing even during "normal" times.

>>15450495
they're almost all made in Taiwan, South Korea, or Malaysia
still a good thing to buy if you need it, but most PC components are not made in Mainland China
some do use components or materials sourced from Mainland China, but it's hard to do a full supply-chain analysis and figure out what the situation is. As long as the main fabs are secure, auxiliary parts and materials can be secured from other sources if needed.

If China ultra-chimps out and goes for Taiwan, PC component prices are going to go INSANE, but it seems super unlikely. And North Korea seems to be chill right now, so South Korea (SSDs, display panels, all kinds of other semis) shouldn't be at any big risk.

>>15450462
Well then what chems are worth looking into for personal use or flippage? HCG has some fascinating results, then there’s that Russian hair chem...

>>15450537
>>15450495
Good to know, could use a big HDD to put all my 2TB’s one and then backup.

Then again, how much am I really going to NEED all these high quality movies and anines and games...

>>15450370
I am really warming up to VIG, as dividend growth may be more important than yield in the long run, as long as the underlying financials are solid.

Really just makes me want more JNJ though, as it’s div aristocracy and one of two companies with a AAA balance sheet...

>>15450788
VIG and KNG are based

do I buy stocks now or wait

>>15450397
Neither of those are really what I'm looking for. I'm looking for something explicitly focused on stocks with attractive dividends.

>>15450428
I had in mind something like NOBL. Ideally, I would be able to buy in small lots without paying any commissions. Unfortunately, NOBL is not one of the commission-free ETFs on Charles Schwab.

>>15450888
Nice trips.

I know that feel, it’s what I’ve been doing, but I think there’s a lot of trash in SCHG and SCHD, if I remember right. I really wish VIG were on the list, but I might have stumbled upon the real Chad etf.

Check out SPLV

>>15450971
Oh shit, LGLV looking damn good too.
I gotta check out the breakdown of these ports, make sure it’s not just P&G’s gains making these look juicy.

>>15443747
ice(((berg)))

Lads...
I think this is a sure thing desu.
Smith and Wesson will never die!
Come and Take It!

>>15451345
Everyone who wanted a gun bought 3 when Obama was elected and probably a few more when it looked like Hillary would be elected.

I’d rather bet on america’s love of snacks.

>>15451399
Warren is going to scare them. Political fear is the time for the gear!

What do you think /smg/, I'm thinking of looking at all of the biggest losers for the day and shorting them. On average the top five biggest losers by % lose an additional 2.5% the day after. I've got a margin account with plenty of buying power...

Just in case someone was wondering, this book is a piece of crap. Just watch the movie. Nick Leeson is a fucking idiot and I'm a bigger idiot for buying his book.

>>15451570
So a scammer is scamming people? Who would've though!?
What's the new material on the book?

>>15451633
You get some more insight on the trades he actually pulled, such as the fact that he was selling options for the premiums (which I think wasn't mentioned in the movie). But not much more desu. I'm about 50 pages from the end, I'll post if there's something juicy there.

>>15451667
So he just takes all the premium and runs?

one hour to movie night, this is you official Warning tm
Tonight's feature is John Woo's Hard Boiled (1992) because Takeshi Mikey keeps a stranglehold on his copyrights and I can't find a streaming version of gozu. I can maybe torrent it for next week if there's still interest.

>>15451712
What? No. To gain back some of his losses he sold options, for which you get paid. It's totally legit, except that he was doing it behind Baring's back. Some of them were indeed executed against him, maybe that's what you were asking?

>>15447729
It's even better when you realize Samsung Electronics, on its wn, is 220Bn USD in revenue per year. The Samsung company as a whole is truly gargantuan.

>>15451801
>>15447729
>>15447363
>>15447946
>>15448018
>>15448040

Is Samsung a good buy right now?

>>15451737
Oooooooo tequila John the chinaman!
Thanks for taking my recommendation kekkies but maybe we should try a Miike crime movie instead of another of his metaphorical mindfucks?

SCHG holders, any other SchwabChads get a letter about changes being made to the fund?

Movie night movie night! Get in here!

>>15450850
dollar cost average in, you should never be 0% in stocks, unless you are a literal time-traveler from the future

>>15452221
dont forget anon

>>15452306
well what do you know

So are we not talking about the new tariffs?

>Should I subscribe to WoW?

>>15452306
>dont forget anon

I went all in on Teva 3 months ago and now I am JUST'd

>>15453028
>So are we not talking about the new tariffs?

Already priced in when they were announced. Nothing to talk about until something more happens to change the tariff schedule.

>>15443856
I watch every gsl match. Millennial here.

>>15453139
Really hope so. Almost felt like the market was hoping China's "good will" would mean there was actual progress being made.

on the bright side, the cot updated
small specs negative again

>>15453363

There is a degree of misinterpreting happening between China and the USA.

Just imagine the Chinks trying to get a hold on what the fuck Trump means. From their perspective it must be perplexing, and there are many more bilingual Chinese than there are bilingual Americans. Pretty much all the bilingual Mandarin speakers have Chinese ancestry.

One day Trump will call Xi an enemy, the next day he will call him a friend.

The reality of the situation is that Trump does the tariff hit, and then he does damage control on the stock market by talking up Chinese trade talks.

The Chinese understand this now, and they will start playing information warfare with American stock markets with retaliatory tariffs and embargoes.

China's prerequisites for a trade talk is the elimination of all tariffs.

i lent my gf 7k for her new car and she's scraped the front of it in the first 24hrs of ownership

>>15454346

>>15454346
I hope you mean new (used) car
I really hope you don't mean new (new) car

>>15454767
well it's definitely new (used) now

>>15446040
>say $100K now and then at some point in the future (50 years, more or less) you might expect to get $100K or so yearly in dividends

Anyone who thinks that american stocks will last that long is completely delusional.

>>15453028

Don't subscribe to this shitty 15 year old game, buy Bannerlord next year instead.

>>15454346
>lent my gf
Never gonna get that back m8.

>>15454856
Go back to your containment threads, cryptofaggot

>>15454942

>The USA won't be Brazil in 10-20 years.

Once whites are a minority this country will only go down.
Now go and tell me about brazilian dividends.

>>15454856

>>15454310
I think everyone is on the same page now, but Trump wants to keep the market from crashing and Beijing wants to stop capital flight panic.

Trump’s goal IS the tariffs. China is hoping he gets voted out (and probably working on undermining the election).

>>15451069
>>15450971
Thanks for the recommendations. I'd avoid SCHG, since, if I remember correctly, it explicitly warned in The Intelligent Investor against selecting funds labeled as "growth funds." You can take that for whatever it's worth, but personally I'd rather avoid making Benjamin Graham's ghost angry if I can avoid it.

>>15452306
This quote is from the manuscript of Beating the Street before his editor got his grimy, Jewish hands all over it.

>>15453139
Absolutely not priced in. Market dipped hard then rebounded when Trump claimed fake calls from China, thinking (retardedly, counter-intuitively) that that signaled he was looking to de-escalate. Market's gonna do a poop on Tuesday, especially when China hits back to maximize leverage over the US markets Trump holds so dear

>>15453119
Stay the course.

OH SHIT WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP
NEW TARIFFS
NEW TARIFFS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>15455074
>futures

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>15455074
AHHHHHH

>>15455034

Yes more tarrifs mean NIO is going down further. I might scoop some up now and wait for it to go back to 10

>>15455384
Why would you buy ANY chinese fompany?

>>15455492
Because I love the risk and have a gambling problem.

>>15455499
Go on preditit. I keep losing money cause i cant stick to my system on there. Somehow i dont have a gambling problems when it comes to stocks.

>>15455507
But I also mean the company seems solid. They've cut most of their waste have good ratings by car reviewers and the way management handled their recall ahead of schedule shows strong leadership.

>>15455507
im gambling on KHC and ABBV :)

>>15455024
Thanks, I already was trying to work my way out of it without taking losses. I think if I sell now it’s only $10 down or so. I had been in that and SCHD but now I’m not sold on that either, and might just take my gains and go for a better fund.

I like the ability to easily get in and out of the no-fee ETFs, but if they are inferior funds then maybe it’s best to stay away. I’m building a list of the ones I’m interested in for now, but we’ll see. Even the no-load, no-fee mutual funds look like they might have a better selection.

>>15453139
lol

>>15455949
They were announced weeks ago by both sides. Only brainlet traders will be surprised.

>>15456042
But will headline-algobots know the difference?

THANK YOU Tariff Gods! I need a good 2,000 point fall in the DOW to get even on my SQQQ short, and it will def help my silver position :)

>>15456123
Are there bots that scan headlines and dump cause of a single word in the title? Seems like a good way to lose lots of money

What's the best exchange to cash out your coins?

>>15456451
CBOE
2nd place is CME

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-01/us-slaps-new-tariffs-china-one-minute-later-china-retaliates

I’M A TARIFF MAN

>>15456707
Why is he so full of rage every time the stock market doesn’t crash?

Am I missing something, or was there no news is this article? Seemed like it could be summed up as “everything went as planned today”

>>15456707

We gonna win the tariff war, deal with it faggot

>>15456802
Maybe, but I doubt trump could fire a rifle without shattering his fragile boomer bones.

>>15456802
america doesnt need china to do its business, a large amount of shit made in china however is sold to the US, america can and will win the trade war if people can stop sperging out about it for a fucking second

>>15456784
>Seemed like it could be summed up as “everything went as planned today”
yeah
if the market was open you'd be seeing wild swings and everyone would be crazy emotional
people would be FREAKING OUT

but nothing really happened

>>15456853
That's the point. Make the major moves while everyone is on 3 day weekend, and there'll be some wag the dog event Monday or Tuesday that will occupy the headlines all week.

>>15456987
I’m more concerned about how Hong Long will be handled, but so far it looks like they’re not resorting to outright violence, but more just arresting who they can and then using blue dye to arrest more people later.

Also, blasting protestors with piss. Unfortunately we are not allowed to do that in the US any more.

I guess pulling out of s&p long on Friday was a good decision by the looks of it. Bring on the cheapies (pls don't crash muh dude weeds)..

>>15456707
>zerohedge

its important to note that the only thing keeping the top two economies afloat is their domestic consumption, which is always the last to go before a recession. If the new tariffs begin to damage that, we may see a the start of a death spiral. The only thing companies from layoffs is the fact that they'd loose money by not selling off the inventory that they can. Once they cannot minimize losses in this way any longer, it all goes down hill.

>>15457150
>Penislum

Jesus fucking hell. When did deepfakes get this good? Well here’s Peterson on the Daughter problem.
>hits pipe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8-cjd5cdIU

>>15457264
Was ignoring QE part of your plan?

I can’t remember who it was, but there was an interview with a former official saying that the biggest winner of QE policies were investors. I’m not going to be sitting that out with the rest of the poors, because I think cash/gold/bonds will keep me safe. (I think he said stock market investors, but I’m sure it helped bond holders as well)

So I’m looking at a bunch of ETFs. Currently liking the look of SPLV, LGLV, CGW, NFO, VIG, MTUM, and even RYU & SCHH.

Utilities have been doing CRAZY well, and I’m not sure if that’s because investors see them as low vol, or if it’s because energy costs are so low due to Permian oil.

>>15457128
yes the whole market will dump but for some reason weed stocks will be unaffected

>>15457416
QE will hit after the crisis has already started.

>>15457516
QE will be different this time

>>15457625
We got the best QE, believe me. People call me all the time, they say don, you got the best QEs. Just this other day Powell called me. China may think they have gotten away with helicopter money but not any longer! When it comes to helicopters we have the bigger ones!

>>15457625
dont waste your breath /smg/ is full of permabears and drumpf haters. china will capitulate and s&p will go to 3200 easily

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST MAKE MONEY BY TRADING CRYPTO!!! ITS JUST VIRTUAL MONOPOLY MONEY THATS NOT BACKED BY ANYTHING REAL!!!!

>>15457734
China is a shit country and cant devalue their currency forever. They will fucking die. Its already at a point that pork is too expensive to make money selling to themselves. They are pretty fucked over there. China will be lucky to not have a revolution in the next 20 years. Its laughable they could “win” anything against the USA with the USA allowing it

>>15457625
yeah I don't doubt it. but the political/monetary policy reaction will always come after a crisis begins to bite.

when I say "QE will be different this time" I'm not picking sides
I'm not trying to anticipate or preach about how things will turn out

I'm making a factual statement: based on the experience in 2009 and the direct statements by the Federal Reserve this year, they are NOT going to wait around for an extra year before they start QE

>>15457734
If you don't hate every politician, you're not paying attention.
Yes, that includes King Boomer, of reality television fame. (Fuck Xina tho, S&P to 4000)

>>15457786
>tfw bagholding ETH and BTC
FUCK YOUUUUUUUU

SPY to 500

>>15457795
>modern communist states having revolutions
Even Venezuela where people were eating rotten meat and shoes didn't have a revolution. China will be just fine. At worst a few million people will starve to death but they have a billion of them so it's fine.

What are your thoughts on this? Is it as crazy as the news people say it is?

>>15457481
Great.

>>15457843
When?

Forgive me if this is the wrong thread, but if I want to start investing money what is the best place to start? UK based

>>15458094
Somewhere in the afterlife, Karl Marx is furiously ejaculating to this knowledge.

>>15458443
We zapped their missile with a laser

>>15458531
Run up starts 2020 as part of the 'Roaring 20's' 2.0
ends 2027

>>15458711
Checked and bullish AF...dare I buy $390 calls expiring Jan 2020?

unleash the kraken

>>15449466

Much smaller market cap, much smaller volume. NEED would have huge spreads.

>>15449831
I avoid SVXY, it makes taxes much more complicated, and tax prepareres charge you extra for dealing with it.

>>15458540
plastics

>>15459156
Do your own taxes anon, its really easy nowadays

>>15458540
Move to america, grt access to our stock exchanges

>>15459514

>>15459514
america has the best companies by far

>>15458540

What's been proven in the last 20 years is that professional fund managers can't beat the profits that buying the index as a whole returns.

So everyone is buying ETFs that represent the index as a whole. These have ultra low fees and simply can't go bankrupt.

SPY for example is the ETF for the S&P 500 in the USA.

Given this reality, the only decision now is what country's market to invest in and the currency fluctuations associated with that.

American stocks right now are more expensive than at any point in the last 120 years, except for the year 2000.

>>15459156
Unless you’re throwing around big money, remember to give it your “best effort” and just do it on your own. Pay what you think is fair and forget about it. IRS isn’t thT scary as long as there’s no obvious and willful neglect. Tax preparers and law fags want you to think otherwise.

Signed, corporate tax fag

>>15459868
>>15459456
It isn't that easy, because ProShares doesn't distribute K-1s until very late in the tax cycle. You can't even calculate what you owe until nearly the last few days.

test

Is he a reliable source in learning how to invest and trade stocks?

>>15455074
The other replies to this convinced me to check. How dare you just go on the internet and tell lies?

Movie night round two?

Or should I try to talk to find some random bar thots?

>>15460170
Read books and investopedia, anon. There are no successful traders giving out valuable information on youtube. The only halfway decent info I have found on youtube were videos about how to use a specific type of indicator, almost always made by a forex trader. You want to learn about indicators, forex traders are the best for that.

>>15460170
I fucking hate this fag he looks like a rat

>>15459948
Can you make things easier by just planning on filing for an extension? I've gotten the impression that the IRS pretty much always says okay.

>>15460777
Shit. I might have to do that this year.

Been doing all sorts of trading in schwab and Rh. All those leveraged ETFs, and some of those shitcoins.

>>15460777
Nice jackpot

>>15460777
big gains tmrw anon, lucky digits

>>15460170
Kinda clickbaity but occasionally has okay info for beginners. If you're interested in options and futures check out TastyTrade. Also get some books on investing at the library

>>15460777
It's always ok to file for an extension

>>15460946
based. was very amused to see an anon complaining about a book he bought not being good enough.

Free fucking books dummy!

>>15460877
>>15460906
I've gotten triples in /smg/ three times just this past week... I think I need to take a break from posting here. If I use up all my luck on stupid stuff like that, I won't have any luck leftover for my investments.

>>15460693
I'm going to work on labor day. I suggest you consider the same.

>>15460979
No job, school's closed.

>>15460989
My office is closed too, so it will be nice and quiet. I'll be getting more work done than normal.

Another bonus about tomorrow. You can work on a Monday without even thinking about stock prices.

I get paid holidays so no work for me monday.
Me and the wife got all the chores done today so monday we ain't doing jack shit. No going anywhere just kicking back at home.

Kinda a prelude to my life when I retire, doing jack shit and loving every second of it.
Your born, then you die. Those are the two only certain things in the world. What you do in the middle is just shit to pass the time. I'd rather spend that time doing what I like.

Go me..

>>15444366
what stock is that cheap with options on it?

FUTURES BLOOD RED. JESUS. This looks like it might be the start of the big one. New tariffs, yield curve inverted, escalating tensions, europe and china on the brink of collapse. Yikes. Good thing I've been in cash for weeks now. :)

>>15460693
o no I didn't see people wanted it
I'm boutta go work out in the park then go get late dinner, I think we'll just have to wait for saturday

>>15459156
literally just type it into turbotax holy shit

>>15461090
nigga it's .44%

>>15461098
That's really bad this early in the night. Nasdaq is -0.7%

>>15461092
What server ya playing on

>>15461098
>>15461105
You guys are aware that the stock market is not open tomorrow, right?

>>15444356
>>15444350
>>15444334
Honk honk

>>15461239
herod
>>15461248
doesn't mean futures aren't open now

So its gonna be a black tuesday

What companies should I short?
I just set a put on NKE... not sure what else.

Lets help each other get some bank this tuesday from shorting brahs

>>15461572
>black
>short
Goodluck

>>15461680
>he doesn't know that shorting gets you gains when markets are bad

>>15461572
I dunno guy, Nike is already demanding ludicrous prices for their shitty rubber fuccboi shoes being put together for 12 cents an hour in a factory with suicide netting. I don't think this would matter for that. I would be more concerned for industries effected by more expensive heavy metals and circuitry.

>>15461105
>>15461098

All it takes is for ONE Tweet from Donald J Trump for the market to go down like a dumpsterfire or SHOOT UP LIKE A ROCKETSHIP.

Technically we're either going to collapse back down to the bottom end of the range of around 2840ish, or push out to retest the ATH.

It all feels very similar to October to December 2018, but obviously more compressed and with less price actions.

Did something happen or are you just bored?

There’s a big storm, and the previously announced tariffs went in to play as was expected, even if some were hoping otherwise. I see no reason for that to cause anything more than a small pullback, if that.

Just make sure to use a stoploss if you do go short, Don could issue a tweet, or Hong Kong could go very bad fast, or maybe we’ll see some positive development or some good news from Japan/Korea.

This market likes to make quick moves in either direction, I wouldn’t bet too much on being smarter than it.

Anyone checked out the MTUM etf? Seems pretty based...

Only thing is it’s doing similarly to S&P lately, because they both are underweight utilities and REITs.

>>15461797
>or push out to retest the ATH.

Not going to happen with all the China shit going on and Trump thinking he can nuke the market every time it looks good.

Insider here
LULU is going to tank hard
gl

>>15462396

>Not going to happen with all the China shit going on and Trump thinking he can nuke the market every time it looks good.

If they conclude a deal, or even say they will be delaying tariffs indefinitely, the market will push higher.

Hell, it doesn't even have to be fucking true. All Trump needs to do is say some shit on Tweeter and the markets will react.

That part is a little annoying...
So many little vix bunnies, it’s like it’s got a new normal. When’s the last time the vix was below 15?

>>15443793
This doesn’t make any sense to me. Why would it “flash crash” after dropping nearly 50% from its over-bought high?
>>15462420
So I highly doubt what you’re saying here is true.

>>15462439

July 22nd.

>>15462478
alright, so it's only been about a month...

I wonder if we could better predict his tweets based on the averages, or the VIX.

>>15462519

I saw someone who planted all of Trump's tariff announcements vs the S&P 500. I've just spent the last 5 minutes trying to find it, but I can't.

He tends to do the announcements at all time highs, and he'll give out reconciliatory tweets when the market is bottoming out. That's obvious.

Why must the orange cheeto man lie all the time?

>>15462572
>he'll give out reconciliatory tweets when the market is bottoming out
Seems more like he does that when the market is tanking, and that causes it to bottom out and reverse direction

>>15462583

He knows that any downturn as a result of his words/actions is one that he can manipulate higher within a week or two.

Think of the May correction. He fires up Twitter at the end of May/early June, announces tariffs on Mexico unless an agreement is made. Market tanks. An agreement is made almost immediately and a huge relief rally happens.

I think once he is forced into a corner and can't do the above is when the market tanks. Or worse yet, he attempts to do the above but the market doesn't react to him, and just keeps dropping.

Anyone doing forex? Its fun you know

Who else tracks their dividends in the memo app? I've been using this and a combination of this and the calculator app when my math isn't good enough. Only took me around 2 hours the other night to type this up

>>15463014
Fugg off boomer

Lucky markets are closed in US

Coupled with the hurricane fears, market should be going down due to this solar storm. This pic is midnight to now

someone make new bread

>>15463465
*New*
15463511
>15463511
>>15463511
>>>15463511
>>15463511
>15463511
15463511

>>15463542
Nice pyramid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xwH8TilVPI

>>15463465
>>15463542
you dont make new threads before 310 retards

>>15464006
Fuck you lazy faggot. Don't see you creating threads

>>15464014
because it's a slow thread and we were below 310 retard

>>15461728
Black is profit, red is losses.
Stocks go up on a black day

>>15443710
Can someone post the book list? I'm a newfag to the thread and interested in doing some reading from it.

>>15464808
Thomas sowell basic economics
Unironically

I have some money in a Vanguard fund. I'm up about $1600 since March, 2016...

I'm only about $40 below where it peaked. Time to sell?

>>15464808
read "the intelligent investor" by graham first

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rq9DS_rEFIy8JrEeiDDqRhrviAy0Nnqj