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First for stocks

pole

Just woke up, what'd I miss?
Were there cheapies or what?
Trade war news? HK news?

My first week trying out options trading. I think I did ok. I would have been up 20% if I sold my LMT calls instead of holding.

reminder that the SPY is sustained by the souls of 11 babies

>>15183842

MARKET HAS RECOVERED
I REPEAT, THE MARKET HAS RECOVERED

BUY CALLS!
BUY CALLS!
BUY CALLS!

>>15186007
>babies
Daily reminder that next month people born after 9/11 will be able to vote

>>15185990
Meh. Low open but rest of the day was crab rally.

>>15186028
*sells calls*

>>15186046
I was born in 1998 and I can legally drink

>>15186046
>vote
If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.

>>15186083
you were born a nigger and you will die a nigger

>>15186088
who is "they"?

>>15186125
>who is "they"?
government, CEOs or multi billion dollar corporation, (people who *really* run this shit)

>>15186145
can tim cook really call up president trump and make voting illegal

What are the requirements to trade options on Robinhood? I want to get my feet wet

>>15186162
no, but he can say something like

>give us a few tax breaks or support this law that benefits Apple or we are going to fire hundreds of people causing unemployment to rise

>>15186162
don't be obtuse. I won't BOG you down with the detai-

>>15186199
could bernie put a stop to this?

>>15186240
sure he'll just make it illegal to not work

What do you think /smg/ am i going to clean up next week or get cleaned out?

>>15186240
well, politicians are just puppets that give you the illusion that you have a choice.

What they can do is pass legislation that makes it hard for companies to go out of their way to do dirty jobs.

But billion dollar companies can do whatever they can because money talks and they can find loopholes

>>15186275
oh no they corrupted bernie too
not bernie

>>15186300
Did you know that Bernie wants to add a tax to wall street speculation, a tax on every trade and HFT (high Frequency Traders) ?

anyone wanna buy some pics of man feet

>>15186300
Bernie Sanders is an idea, not a person. There are 3-5 actors that represent this idea to the public.

https://youtu.be/mmLzWpcs8ZQ

Hehe
It's the weekend. :)

>>15186007
Bezos, Cook, Buffet, Zuck, Page, Brin, Nadella, Dimon, Gorsky...
Those 9 should never be allowed on a plane together.

>>15186341
FUCK hft traders... the less AI can fuck us up the better.

>>15186046
This isn't even a voting year...
But we will have 9/11 pornstars soon.

>>15186341
SEC already charges me a cent tax per trade
bernie needs to keep up with the times

https://money.stackexchange.com/questions/85801/why-did-i-lose-2-cents-more-than-the-difference-in-the-stock-prices-on-my-robinh

>>15186392
>bernie needs to keep up with the times
he knows that but we wants to increase the tax even more Lol

What's something cheap, stable and pays good divvies?

>>15186555
Kneepads

Should I all in on AMD?

>>15186004
Nice that’s pretty good. I made about 40% gains on my portfolio with options this week all of which expired worthless. Never be afraid to sell too early.

How do people make money with stocks? Theres so many fees and taxes.

>>15186568
Wait for a better buying opportunity. Or DCA like a cuck, but yes its a good buy.

>>15186586
>fees
robinhood (us chads only). no comish, 2 cent cost per trade round trip.
>taxes
you're only taxed a portion of your gains

>>15186106
This.

>>15186616
How do I avoid all the fees?

>>15186577
Thanks :) now I can start chipping away at my 20% overall loss.

>>15186624
>kraft
Ouch

>>15186568
I wouldn't yet. I don't advocate buying right after a big pump.

>>15186672
K H C ' D

>>15186616
I heard RH is coming to EU soon though, was just approved in the UK. I read something about it

>>15186640
you pay fees for convince, for trust and for access and regulatory security. you can solve this by using an illegal distributed trading system where you have a high level of trust with your peers

distributed because there's no platform to charge for access (you'll have to find traders yourself though)
you need to be able to trust your peers because you dont want to have to lease trust from a 3rd party (ie an escrow service or a incentivized mining platform)
illegal because the SEC is gonna charge you fees just to exist

Market buy bowl america bitch

>>15186555
Tobacco

>>15186568
Yesterday, yes.

>>15186624
In a year, you'll be WISHING you loaded up on these cheapies!

>>15186083
Stahp it. I turn 30 next week and posts like this make me sad.

>>15186368
>Bezos, Cook, Buffet, Zuck, Page, Brin, Nadella, Dimon, Gorsky...
>Those 9 should never be allowed on a plane together.
If they ever were all on a plane together I'd short everything as a lottery ticket.

>>15186786
2022, KHC is back at $45 and pays at least 55c per quarter

Road to $90
Pay down the debt
Process the food
KHChads unstoppable

https://youtu.be/_Koz0jaS0Ec

Still holding my AMRN. Stock actually held at $14 something all day which is better than the $13 some odd it was originally. So could've been a lot worse. But still don't make up for the big shat from yesterday's high. But least it's holding. So now I'll wait 3 more months and hope it recovers.

"Oh Holy Buyout please come and Save me!" Please deliver into my hands Bulging Green Bags of Cash so that I may save it for when I'm an old fuck and so that I can buy more T babies on the next mega dip"

>>15185596
>>15185665
>>15185688
I'm still working out the maths and benefits for writing a credit spread instead of just a call alone, but yea i basically buy an otm call with the credit received. The idea being that should the stock rocket upwards I get to keep it and most of its gains as opposed to being assigned outright. Below the long leg of the spread, it functions exactly like a covered call would otherwise, just at a slightly less premium.

There's 2 main benefits to doing this as opposed to just writing a call alone:
>Can sell the far otm if it rockets shortly after writing the spread, then buy a new otm or just hold.
>Can profit if the stock rockets past the spread because I'm holding shares; you also don't lose the shares and continue to hold them because the short leg will exercise against the long leg.
The motivation is to simply stop being assigned and not lose out on bigly gains upwards. I believe with the current volatility, I'm not being fairly compensated for just writing calls alone.

The only disadvantage is, if I'm below the long leg of the spread, it's the same as writing a call except with slightly worse premium. I would've been better off just writing a call in that case. Also i don't know what domscumm is but it sounds fucking retarded, just purchasing far otm options is a good way to get JUSTed.

Koyfin is an excellent analysis site

>>15186910
One question that you have to answer for such an analysis has to do with time:
When are you actually buying/selling the options?
When you feel like it?
Weekly? Beginning of each month? Or a time-synthetic strategy with various triggers for selling/buying options of various durations?

>>15186961
I think you can be flexible with this strategy. I haven't analyzed it yet, but I think if you want to do weekly spreads, you want them tight so you aren't caught in the middle as often. If you do monthly or such you can widen the spread to get bigger premiums as protection for when it falls, or to give yourself more time to get over the long leg's strike. Ideally with this strategy, you want to find yourself just below or way above the spread legs; being inside the spread is still profitable of course, since you're holding the stock, it's just simply not a better scenario than the other two.

I'm gonna avoid short options since msft dividend is wednesday (or at least, i'll write a far otm), but I'm gonna start doing weekly spreads on msft and amd to try it out.

>>15186893
Not gonna increase my positions for a while. Just sit and see how well they do. Also cause fuck I gotta pay down my credit card a lot so I can screw the company outta hitting me with a large fee.
Gonna stuff some cash in the bank as well.

So what are yall expecting come Monday?

>Green for most stocks
>Krabbing like Mr. Krabs
>Red for most stocks

Will everyone rush out to buy bideogame now that trump gonna ban them?

NTDOY to moon?

>>15187140
Everything is green except for your most substantial holding.

>>15187203
perfect match for my zero day SPY puts

>>15187033
Do you chose strike prices based on the IV that the market is pricing for a certain duration or some other method? (Sell closest ITM or OTM or farther)?

>>15187239
I was gonna just write the short leg closest otm like I do normally for covered calls.

>>15186893
Till yesterday's big shat my portfolio was like this:

50% - AMRN
40% - T Babies
10% - DIS,Comcast,KDP,CTL,KHC,LGF,GE,BHGE,PINS,SWPPX.

Now based on current value T babies take the lead with AMRN falling to 2nd.

Have we gone back to the clockwork Friday Selloff mode?

No one wants to hold over the weekend anymore in Trump Times?

>>15187333
T Babies strong
The strongest abortion doctors were unable to terminate their pregnancy

>>15187267
Good luck
I might have some fun putting together a more exotic option-selling strategy later this year or next year when some of my current trades run their course
It just really makes it tough to beat taxes if you have to keep buying and selling
Plus to get a proper diversification (underlying, exp, strike) I want at least 50k RH portfolio
For now, I'm letting the ETFs do the work for me :-)

>>15187203
Lol been trying to dca out of the one stock i fomo'd into. It crashed more. I think it has potential but not at this time. Much rather day/swing trade the money i stuck into it.

>Goldman Sachs, bank of the rich and powerful, is dipping into subprime lending with Apple Card

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/09/goldman-sachs-is-dipping-into-subprime-lending-with-apple-card.html

>"subprime lending"

where did i heard that before

>>15187500
I'm in the same situation with PHUN. Tuesday is the Q2 report, and the insider lockup/blackout period ends. I've got 1990 shares. Time to ride or die.

>>15187533
loading up on GS LEAP puts monday, thanks

>>15187603
>PHUN

52w high - $550.00
52w low - $1.66

Now - $1.72

WTF happened? or is the 52w high a typo?

>>15181290
>>woman on cnbc says chinese stocks will outperform us stocks
>>???

>When American stocks are just below historical high
>When Chinese stocks are still less than half of their height in 2008

>>15186341
whats the amount of each tax? is wall street speculation different from the other two, or was that all-encompassing?

>>15186168
i dont think i had to do anything special. for me, when you press "trade" on any stock you get the options
>buy
>sell
>trade options

>>15187376
Diversification is basically what ETFs are for, no shame in using them as intended.

Some use them for increased leverage or increased exposure to a specific sector or theme (micro-diversification?), but if you like the idea of long-term investing vs. short term gambling, you should be exploiting the opportunity provided by ETF's with low expense ratios.

>>15187858
speaking of which, whats a safe way to trade options to begin to understand them better? i cant learn shit if it isnt first-hand

>>15186555
i bought a bunch of NRZ today after an anon talked about it yesterday. i hope its stable

>>15186168
>>15187858
>>15187869
Write covered call credit spreads. Very safe.

>>15186078
wasnt much of a rally you might be ok

>>15187783
When it went public, only 38k shares were available to trade. The majority of the shares were locked up.

>>15186759
you mean monday

>>15186555
I won't lie, if I ever make it, I'm going to buy Toby Fox a studio so he can actually finish this game with a polished dev team. Then I'm going to buy the rights to Tuca and Bertie so they can finish the cancelled season 2.

>what's a safe way to stop being cucked by Tyrone, my wife's bf

>>15187843
Bernie wants to slap an extra tax on ALL stock trades.

After getting FUCKED by GDOT and possibly-fucked-but-we'll-see-how-this-trade-goes by NEWR, and stuck HODLing in CGC, I'm considering just never again buying a stock that doesn't pay a dividend. Divvies at least pay you to wait.

>>15187887
AAAAHHHH I MISSED THE DIIIIIIP
I brought it up recently and got anons talking about it, I think it's safe enough, but I wouldn't have it make up a huge chunk of your holdings.

I've got 11 shares at 14.8909, and I wouldn't mind grabbing another 39 shares.

>>15187913
You're just going to fund Brisby porn and we all know it, beastialitykun

>>15187983
You have to kill them both in Minecraft to come out of that with the upper hand.

>>15187983
so the 0.5% tax applies to everything? not that bad to me desu. when more of the country is educated, the economy and stock market will do better, and maybe we'll be able to have a healthy democracy without idiots voting for idiots

>>15187987
and you're against that?

>>15188009
0.5% on every trade is bullshit. You don't want that.

>>15187983
>>15188019
lmao are you serious? 0.5% on every trade? hell fucking no i won't pay that. Bernie can come to my front door and collect it himself.

>>15187798

In retrospect 2006-2009 had some fucking crazy market actions.

I wonder who was behind the flooding of Chinese equities during that time, whether it was internal or external.

>>15187987
>AAAAHHHH I MISSED THE DIIIIIIP
are you talking about december? other than that its at its lowest point in a while. not to mention, everything was at a major dip at athat point. i went with nvidia at that time and made a killing, though my other stocks, as well as waiting too long to sell nvidia undid all of that. buying AMD monday finally gave me a reasonable all-time profit for having traded stocks for this amount of time. though im holding onto that for who knows how long. could be nvidia all over again

>>15188009
>when more of the country is educated, the economy and stock market will do better, and

Hahahshahahahahahahahahahaha no

>>15188019
>>15188033
the tax funds college education. just get a finance degree and be a broker, where you trade other peoples' money, they pay the tax, and you profit whether or not your clients do

>>15188033
I dunno what the Bern's plan is exactly but the way he described it on joe rogan interview sure sounded like an extra tax on every trade. Other anon brought up the 0.5% number. I'm not sure if Bern has said what kind of number he has in mind.

>>15188061
Holy shit you're so naive, anon.

No company just gives away money for free unless they were doing something extremely sketchy.

>>15188061
>>15188079
Jews would never allow this to pass
d e s u .
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>>15188048
theoretically it should. the US economy is pretty fucked, so we might need some other fundamental change, but smarter people should be able to create better companies, and make current companies do better. do you think smart people would make the economy and stock market worse? sure, some companies that only dipshits buy, like apple, would probably decline, but something else that isnt retarded would take its place

>>15188086
pls enlighten me, anon who prefers his countrymen to be retarded

>>15188101
the only way to fight a jew is with another jew. vote bernie

>>15188040
Do you trade options or buy stocks?

>>15188115
I prefer to fight jews with guns but ok

>>15188121
just buy currently. if i want to short, ill buy a short etf. i want to get into options, but im afraid to deal with the learning curve and what failure entails

>>15188033
Let me get this straight, people are bitching about .5% per trade when cryptos are 15% per trade?

>>15188135
there's already a tax on crypto? or is that a fee from a "broker" or crypto equivalent like a trading platform?

>>15188115
>pls enlighten me, anon who prefers his countrymen to be retarded

Your thesis is free college makes for more intelligent population, right? Okay, see, that's not what happens. All it does is motivate universities to expand their waste of time humanities faculties to meet the needs of the stupid people now flooding the system. It also does help that these same democrats want to open up the borders to the third world. Inexpensive access to college does not produce more skilled workers in in demand fields. Several advanced fields are already extremely competitive to enter despite the cost each student must shoulder as part of the deal.

>>15188135
Hypothetical 0.5% would be in addition to existing capital gains taxes.

>>15188176
sp stipulate that you need to maintain a certain GPA to continue receiving free tuition. other countries have just that sort of system in place for their free college, we can learn from their systems and tweak as necessary.

also, democrats arent for open borders. and if the republicans actually were interested in secure borders, they would have accepted the 26 Billion democrats offered them for border security with tthe stipulation they couldnt use it to build a wall. imagine the amount of personnel, drones, etc 26 billion could buy, compared to spendiong the same on a wall, before any maintenance, where one fucking cartel member with a saw takes out an entry point. republicans wouldnt dare stifle a source of cheap employment

>>15188176
also i agree universities are wasteful as fuck currently, they could do with more regulation

>>15188176
Ya
There is a nature and nurture component to intelligence. But the nurture part is really early. By the time a kid is 18 they're either going to be a good citizen or not. Sending idiots to college is just a waste of money, no matter who pays
Also hard agree that making something "free" (guarantee that someone else will pay for it) is a very good way to ensure that quality will go down and price will go up. It might not have been the same way 60+ years ago (ex, things like the GI Bill were good on the whole). In that case, a bunch of men who weren't dumb were sent to college for productive degrees.
It should be obvious why that kind of program can be successful, while a "free college for anyone, any major" type of program will not be

>>15188181
Thank you

>>15188154
As far as I know every single crypto to crypto trade is subject to a 15%tax

>>15188231
Walls are cool

The southern border situation seems hopeless, no one with a spine anywhere to be found
What happened to Mexico doing something to stop the flow of central Americans? Do we need to threaten them with tariffs again? Put them all in cages, then use the cages to build the wall

While I wait for AMRN's new review date results I'll be actively stuffing as much cash as I can in the bank.

If the FDA decides to be fools and assholes I'll be hitting the sell button right quick. Sure I'll take a loss but nothing compared to the shit if I don't sell.

All that extra Cash stuffing plus whatever I walk away with after selling would only replace a small fraction of the amount required to get me back to "even". Before the brokerage, before the debt,etc. I'd still be looking at a 14k shortfall.

If the FDA does the right thing and AMRN flys and I get my Green Bags of Cash I'll clear 14 - 40k from this alone.

>>15188286
google said crypto to crypto isnt a taxable event, but cashing out is, which includes buying things with crypto
>Cashing Out of Crypto If the same trade took place over a two-year timeline, long-term capital gains taxes correspondneymar to one's tax bracket are applied. This is 0% for those in the 10-15% income bracket, 15% for those in the 25-35% income bracket, and 20% for those in higher brackets

https://www.investopedia.com/tech/taxes-and-crypto/

>>15188310
walls are useless without the manpower to back up their potential utility. and in this case, incredibly expensive to build and maintain, to the point that its fairly likely the money would be better spent on manpower and other tools

>tfw bought 80 shares of Uber at $39 this morning

It literally feels like stealing. See you guys at $60 next month.

>>15188286
IRS Notice 2014-21:
Crypto is property, so if you sell for a gain you pay long term capital gains tax or short term capital gains tax ONLY ON THE GAIN based on your income bracket.
Losses can also offset gains for a calendar year with some roll-over
There is gain/loss offset for any cappy gains, meaning across asset classes

>>15188339
why does the forecasted EPS increase next year(remaining negative)? to me, Uber's current EPS is too worrisome. and holy shit, lyfts is so much worse. is that the entire selling point?

>>15188061
>unironic voter supporter
>these are the retards giving you financial advice
Just a friendly reminder to the newfags who take everything posted here seriously- you might be making trade decisions based on the opinions of a fucking bernie bot kek. Dont forget, NO REFUNDS

>>15188362
i dont give advice, faggot. i just make fun of you for not doing what i do when hindsight proves that move to be successful. i bet you didnt even load up on AMD on monday

I'm quitting trading for the rest of the year. Had a really great run before a series of losses that completely wrecked my motivation for this shit. Monthly contributions to my roth and the company matched 401K will be it for now.

>>15188362
wait a minute, do you actually not know the difference between socialism, communism, and the difference between either and Bernie's proposals? fucking pot calling the kettle a nigger

>>15188361
Uber eats will drive earnings. They're making a shitload of cash they just need to trim expenses.

>>15188338
>manpower
Don't you mean dronepower? ;)

>expensive to build and maintain
So are Mexicans and central Americans.
Also let me know how much China pays each year to maintain their wall... It's been standing for a thousand years, how many trillions have they spent?
The wall being expensive is just political FUD. I'm not saying it will be free, but compared to the money our government wastes on BS every year, it's pretty small.

>>15188387
Oh christ here we go...

>>15188371
Sure thing bernie bot unlike you O loaded up on amd years ago amd actually sold everything at $34 because I saw an opportunity to make more $ than I could have with the cash even if amd goes to $50 this year. NO REFUNDS bernie needs another mansion

>>15188362
I donated $730 to him then voted for trump

>>15188387
>not real marxism
Nigger bernie signed letters of support to marxist revolutionaries in south america during the 70s even writing "hasta la victoria siempre" but please keep screeching about how he isnt a marxist jew but just a "friendly socialist" jew because you read one book about socialism in your entry level social studies class, I bet your hipster faggot ass has never even been to nicaragua or cuba kek

>>15188377
Trump has made the stock market too volatile. theres gains to be had, but you're just as subject to losses. jump back in at the next major dip, or a few major dips from now

>>15188400
the money would be better spent elsewhere in relation to border security. you should understand this as a stock trader

>>15188408
so you're saying you didnt profit on the last dip via AMD? also jesus christ /pol/ memes are fucking retarded.
>no politician has ever given refunds on contributions
>if you're too poor, you're begging for gibs, if you're too wealthy, you're a hypocrite
>bernie isnt a communist, so being financially successful isnt ironic in any way

>>15188434
who are you supporting in the election? Zion Don? nothing Bernie has proposed is communist in any way

>>15188400

A physical barrier of some kind would be beneficial, but a flying wall of drones on the southern border continuously patrolling Westward and Eastwards 24/7 would mean that NO illegals could come through without being intercepted.

From that point all you would need is a mobile fast reaction force to return them to the Mexican side of the border.

It is physically possible and if Trump played his cards right in 2017 he could have done it. But he didn't because he is a retard.

That cuts off the 1st problem of illegal immigration by land, but then you have the existing illegals within the country, illegal immigrants by plane and then the legal non-white immigrants.

This isn't even mentioning everyone that has achieved citizenship in the last 40 years that isn't of European ancestry.

America's demographics are a baked cake at this point.

>>15188434
>pretends to hate jews
>supports first jewish president Rabbi Trump
nice try IDF

>>15188005
both of who? Both bernies?

Can I get a QRD on the Shiro's minecraft meme being pushed by pol? Is it a way of agitating for violence with plausible deniability?

>>15188011
Nice dubs
If that's really your "dream the impossible dream" dream, then it can't be helped. Better than some of the degenerate scum on here.

>>15188123
lolnvm you went full delusional pleb here
who knows, maybe Ron Paul was right and you'll be the one standing on top of the pile of bodies when the habbenung finally brappens.

>>15188412
>Donating to politicians
Fug. Where's that other anon who donated an entire yang to trump, only to be disappointed when a politician didn't deliver on his promises?

>>15188310
Walls are not the type of infrastructure that creates value, they're going to be a bitch to maintain, and they're just going to fill the pockets of whatever contractors Trump likes the most.

Can we seriously not do better with drones and infrared cameras? Sure, drone fuel and maintenance as well, but at least that's a sector we could develop. Pretty sure our wall tech is just about as good as it's gonna get.

>>15188339
Shit. This was smart. I shouldn't have slept the day away.

>>15188457
What part of "i made more by using the cash from liquidating my amd position" dont you understand? Did you buy at $29 and sold at $33? Good for you crazy profits right there my man.
>the policies of an openly marxist jew arent real communism
Thanks for proving you know nothing berniefag. Please donate all your profits from trading to his campaign as well as give up your guns and prep the bull. Just remember, NO REFUNDS

>>15188472
was that targeted at me? that seems like American society at large's playbook irrespective of political leaning. albeit Repubs take about half, and Dems the other half

>>15188505
You're about to get Trump cursed.
>>15188509
last thing i forgot, i want to make Nightfire007 into a james bond movie and cast elon musk as the villain.

>>15188522
Politicians are all on the same side.

>>15188483
I understand all of that
Demographically and culturally it's all over
I want a wall because its cool, not because I think there is any long term hope for our people on this Earth

>>15188509
Drones are cool too. If you want drones we can build more drones. I'm down.

>>15188531
This is painfully accurate.

Whenever far left and far right go at it over bullshit, money flows into their campaign funds.

>>15188527
Die scorned chu, blut
Jew blidn't glisten

>>15188483
>>15188538
I'm just sayin', china builds a wall to keep out mongolian raiders and it's considered one of the seven great wonders of the world. Trump wants to build a wall and everyone calls him racist and a white supremacist.

>>15188538
Actually I want us to rebuild the power grid, so we stop losing money to losses in power transmission, black outs, and fires caused by downed powerlines.

Drones ARE cool though. I think there are better uses for that money than a wall.

>>15188557
You know that China's wall failed to keep out the Mongols, and was considered a waste of resources, right? And that the dynasty that built it fell, and current china has no relation to that empire?

Walls were best use to deter invasion from smaller settlements, because raiders would see them and decide "fuck, that looks difficult, let's find an easier settlement to attack"

Who cares if a wall is racist? The problem is whether or not the wall is a good investment. It isn't.

>>15188518
my lowest purchase of AMD was 11.15. my most recent purchase was at 28. if you didnt see 28 as a profitable position, you're retarded regardless of any other trade you've made.

>openly marxist
what has he proposed in the vein of communism? if you're referring to >>15188434, i would support a revolution in south america, because south america is shit. you know what unfortunately didnt change in south america in a revolution? being shit. no matter what political system in south america exists, there is one constant: being shit. so you cant fault him for supporting change in the region

>>15188472

Wanna know how I know this is a fraud?

The Allies after WW1 instituted strict gun control over Germany. You couldn't own a firearm without it being registered in 1920s Germany.

Americans seem to fall for this over and over again. The JFK anti-Federal Reserve stuff is just complete bullshit too. An entire industry of obfuscation exists.

>>15187603
How much will you lose out if it goes to $1.00 and never rises again?

In my situation I'd probably lose out on about $300 if it goes that low. I could cut my losses and just lose less than a hundred dollars but I'm real stubborn. However it is clear that what happened when I fomo'ed was a pump and dump. Even then the company seems to have long term potential but even then I'd rather buy it cheap.

>>15187603
>PHUN
jesus christ nigger, whats your cost average?

>>15187887
Great, a stock I've personally investigated is getting shilled here. Hope the ones I bought dont get pumped and then dumped hard.

>>15188096
Reeeeeeee why couldnt they erase my debt. Recently paid for something expensive on credit and I paid it off in less than a weeks time. Hehe thanks for the free money bank but if they so much as forgive US clients debt im gonna be pist I didnt get to milk it.

>>15188096
wat. why? are we aware of the extremely sketchy part?

>>15188649
It's not getting shilled, I said I bought some and someone else said
>WOW CAN THAT YIELD BE SAFE?!
But it's divvy has been a consistent .50 for a while, so I feel OK about it.

It's not going to pump, and it's too big for /smg/ to have much of an impact on it anyhow. You might have to worry if it blows up on ST, but we don't get that much traffic, comparably.

How come you don't believe in it enough to just buy the cheapies if it gets dumped hard? Is it more dangerous than I realize?

>>15188096
Unless they think canada is on the brink of insolvency...

>>15188595
>i would support a revolution in south america, because south america is shit.
Thanks for proving my point about berniefags being not only ignorant, but wilful idiots full of hubris. There were plenty of marxist revolutions in south america during the cold war and every single country where they succeeded is much worse off than their neighbors, just as eastern european countries got rekt when they fell to soviet influence. I suggest you pull your head out of your ass and learn. All you have to do is travel, speak to the people there, and see for yourself. Im south american by the way which is why I laugh so hard at you faggots falling for a marxist jew's tricks because you took one shitty college course or listened to rage against the machine as a teen. What a colossal faggot you are berniebot. Worse, you are not even aware of the level of your ignorance. I foresee this flaw making you lose a lot of money trading at which point you will probably blame capitalism for your failure. Just dont forget pic related! Your faggoty self-serving limp-wristed and deluded kind are the first to go when "the revolution " succeeds. Have a good night frens just remember NO REFUNDS kek

>>15188096
Also thanks to you I now suspect this. They probably screwed up the numbers and to avoid repercussions they forgave everyones debt cause the end of the day theyre in the business to make money whu would they, a company that looks to make money off of people mistakes (credit cards) just forgive peoples debt like that?

>>15186046
I was 2 months old when 9/11 happened and I can vote and post here.

>>15188557
you super dummy -_-;

the great wall am why mongols became socially isolated from world. because of this isolation they grew to hate everyone, eventually genghis khan raped china and world in holy conquest that reduced chinas population by half.

>>15188692
alright, now show the correlation between Bernie's proposals and marxism

>>15188605
ok

>>15188337
Just how much did you invest and at what price!?

>>15188377
Tell me anon how much did you lose? How does it feel? I'm curious as I've recently begun day/swing trading and afraid of failing. Trying to escape wagecuckery and hey if I can manage to pull off a measly $15k after taxes on a yearly basis from doing this well I sure aint getting another office job.

>>15188689
I just looked up the stock I mistook it for a different stock lol. Nonetheless it is a stock I investigated but didn't purchase.

>>15188705
Is the great Wall of China cool y/n?
Are Mongol hordes cool y/n?
Imagine a 21st century technowall with drones

>>15188807
>Nonetheless it is a stock I investigated but didn't purchase.
pls gib explantion why

>>15188854
>Imagine a 21st century technowall with drones
That's not what Trump wants

Is the yuan really going to collapse? Should I be looking at high leverage currency exchange right now? Any insights on this?

>>15188881
The wise forex godplay was to short the shit out of the GBP and keep doing it until october...
Then probably do it more.

>>15188692

>just as eastern european countries got rekt when they fell to soviet influence.

Many Eastern bloc countries did pretty well from the 1950s to the early 1980s. Sure they weren't as prosperous as their Western counterparts, but they were more prosperous than their own immediate past. Maybe the exception being East Germany (though E.Germany did have the highest living standards in the Eastern Bloc)

Keep in mind that the economic miracles in Western European and East Asian countries after WW2 were due to an export orientated regimes with trade surpluses.

>>15188699
Damn that made me feel old. I vividly remember waking up being 9, school was out that day, and watching it on TV.

>>15188645
Pretty bad. $2.54. Could be worse though. Some people went in heavy around $8.

>>15188854
>>15188877
protip:thats also what Trump and Repuiblicans specifically voted against by rejecting 26B in funding democrats would have given them with the stipulation that they couldnt build a physical wall. dems were on the ropes, repubs had full majority of congress, and instead of that, Trumpfags get nothing except what Trump could steal from the military

hey faggots~
long time listener first time caller. tell me, is it absolutely comfy in here? Tell me, is there any way to make about 5 bucks a day doing something online? like surveys or something?
best wishes,
inquisitive

Y'know what fucking pisses me off?
SNSS anon said, quite clearly, that SNSS is a long play because it's a biotech that is RESEARCHING a new cancer drug. Why in the fuck would anyone on /biz/ try and swing trade that shit and not just dump some money into it until the drug is approved?
I mean the second that shit hits market, that stock is gonna go crazy high, right? Why wouldn't it? So why is everyone treating it like a pump and dump and not a long term 2+ year play? I have 700 shares (hopefully 1000 before
EOY) and I'mma sit on that shit until Vecabrublahblah whateverthefuck hits market.

>>15188932
covered call credit spreads on tlt, probably more than $5 a day.

>>15188932
Howdy
Thanks for calling in
Yes and yes to your questions
Now you have to know that weekend threads and night threads are different than business hour threads.

>>15188932
>first time caller
No idiot, buy puts

>>15188932
...Long time first time?
We love that here on Crazy Cash!
What's the stock anon?

>>15188953
>RESEARCHING a new cancer drug
Indeed, why would anyone buy it when they could invest in companies that HAVE new cancer drugs, already tried and tested and FDA approved.

>>15188958
thanks fren..what exactly is that?

WEWEWW what is this boycott borderlands thinger?!

am I gonna get some Take Tewo CHEPAOES!!

...don't make me go to v

>>15188932
>5 dollars per day, averaged over a year
if you invest $13,680.70 in NRZ, thats the projected result. although i think i fucked this equation up entirely, but im too drunk to be able to figure out where i went wrong
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=5*365%3Dx*0.1334

>>15188963
Ok so, this might sound crazy, but bear with me.
When you invest money, your goal is to buy low, and sell high. So, when you buy into a company with massive future prospects that is currently at a low value, you are banking on those prospects to come to thruition, thereby increasing the value and making you money. This is investment 101.

>>15189022
oh wait, 5*365 is a lot, so my math checks out

Cute me

>>15188807
I bought in at $17. 400 shares. I consider my brokerage investment money "spent" even though a large slice still remains intact.

Between my investment money, the money I spent to knock the debt monkey off my back, and to do a few other things all in all I'm out 23k.

Just recently spent another $1200 to fix some shit that came up. So grand total $24,200.00

So to break even, to get back to where I was at and still keep my brokerage account active I need 24k at minimum. AMRN is my only hope to do this in a short time span (relatively speaking).

Otherwise I'm looking at almost 5 years of saving with nothing happening requiring me to spend a large sum. This is just to "Break even", not counting actually getting past that.

>>15189083
Wait, I thought the goal was to buy the stock with the biggest price? Aren't we just flexing? I've been collecting AMZN's and saving for a BRK.A

>>15189132
I also have 194 T babies that I bought for the low price of 31.78. (Drip has since bumped that to 196.8 something). Plus a few other positions.

>>15189083
I think I follow you, but just double check my math here:
The amount of drugs that seem promising is far greater than the amount of drugs that are ever actually used, and it's impossible to tell if they will work as intended or what kinds of side-effects they will have until they are thoroughly tested. Many companies fail to jump through the hoops the FDA requires, and even those that do can be pursuing a drug that doesn't show any benefit over competitors that already exist or are in development. There has to be a major upside for new drugs to ever get used, and buying early stage pharmas is a crapshoot. It's gambling, and not in the sense that all investments are a gamble. It's almost purely speculation with tremendous downside risk.

>>15189222
with this in mind, why are there so many biopharmas that start out at 100s of dollars per share and end up below $5? youd think the risk would be tuned in at the initial price, but 90% of itmes that isnt the case. do they usually have some incredibly promising shit when they go public that inevitably goes south? is it just that the biopharma Im exposed to is cheap becuase of the large potential upside and I and many others are poorfags?

>>15189132
The saying is really true:

It's easier to spend money than to save it. Fuck.

But I may be getting a new job soon. Got some plans in the works. 50/50 shot of getting it. Which is far better than most. Guess you could say I've "unofficially" interviewed for it. Dude is getting things ready on his end. Soon as word comes down to where you know things are all "legal" I apply and go through the process. But the job is basically mine. Still getting the job tile and shit worked out. You know so that HR won't shit can my application.

>>15188037
External fund can't invest into the Chinese stock market at least the A-share part at the time.
I guess the market that time can probably be described as immature market + immature investors + immature government regulator and all that
It was not the first time Chinese stock market crash, but the previous times it happen was when most citizens didn't have enough money to invest into stock market, so they thought it's going to to rise forever and put their lifesaving into it.
And then regulator, government, companies all take it very seriously that it is a good thing on their resume if the market keep rising so they do everything to make it continue rising. Even thought the regulator know that the market was overheated, they still can't put too many measures into the market to counter that, fearing the market would stop rising.
Combined with the fact that the Chinese market function like a casino, where barely anyone think about the matter that how much should a company actually worth and instead are all betting speculatively based on news and policies, with news and policy being generated by government and such that are interested in keeping the market rising, and you can only bet on one side as back then the Chinese market didn't really have any tools that can allow shorting, then you will get what happened there at the time

>>15189303
>>It's easier to spend money than to save it
finally i realize why ive been able to invest $4000 in stocks, and my monthly finances have constantly looked like garbage

>>15189222
>It's almost purely speculation with tremendous downside risk.

Unlike proven investments that "never go down!!!!" such as GDOT
Your statement isn't wrong, but to imply investing biotechs is purely gambling is misleading
Unlike gambling, there are means of making an informed decision (doing research on the science supporting mechanism of action and doing DD on the quality of the company's management and the specifics of the drig itself)

LPTX quarter not looking to bad. I'm ok with going back to HODLing and DCAing maybe if it goes down that much again.

I'm going to keep these no-divvy stocks to a minimum though. Proven divcels are ok though (Salesforce).

>>15189290
high hopes, hype, and probably the fact that early investors see their investment plummet immediately if they price it too low.

I don't really know, honestly. But from what I've seen, if they IPO or uplist without a viable product, they bleed for a very long time until MAYBE they rally off of a good trial or FDA approval, and then resume bleeding until they SOMETIMES get a big catalyst like a buyout or partnership.

They appeal to poors because they can 10X in one day... but that day only comes for a few companies, and only after years of getting cheaper and cheaper.

>>15189403
>Unlike proven investments that "never go down!!!!" such as GDOT
escuse me bud woh are yuo quotey?

A lot of bio companies start out with an idea, some basic concept of what they're wanting to do. They develop drugs to fit that plan. If the science all works out, hey great. That's the easy part (not really this takes years and lots of money)

A lot fail at this point. The science falls apart, they run out of money or some combo of those.

Part 2 is getting past the FDA. They look over all the data and shit. If the drug is a winner then your a rich fuck basically from then on. Big Pharma will buy out the company to get there hands on the Drug's long term Profit. Sometimes if the company shows promise they'll get bought before they get to the FDA stage.

If the FDA shit cans it, well your fucked. Sure you can resubmit and shit but by then your stock price is zero or close to it. So no money.

>>15189403
Wow the direct attack on our GDOT anon
Did he hurt u?

>>15189304
Yo I spent basically all day watching a YouTube channel that just shows videos of pandas
They are the most adorable animals, but I just don't understand how they've survived the last 10000 years. They just seem so unfit from an evolutionary standpoint
I want to have one or two as pets. The bamboo would bankrupt me but that is a price I'm willing to pay

>>15189434
Let me fix that for you

>Part 1: Drug discovery (actually making a drug or drugs to use)
>Part 2: Preclinical stage (figuring out how the drug works and testing it in animals, this stage can take decades)
>Part 3: Clinical stage (Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 trials with each trial being successively longer, larger, and more expensive)
>Part 4: FDA approval (this decision is based on the results of the company's clinical trials)
>Part 5: Marketing the drug (most small biotechs have a very hard time actually selling the drug if they aren't partnered with/acquired by a big pharma company, though some mid-cap biotechs can pull it off well)

>>15187376
I sold my t for now while stuff recovers and putting everything back in t-babies. Glad they held strong during shit. T babies are the best stable coin

>>15189535
>Did he hurt u

I find him very annoying
He's the condescending Merck anon

>>15187376
>>15189547
lowkey serious question, why hold T over QYLD? QYLD has a higher dividend that pays more frequently for maximum dripization.

>>15189434
>A lot fail at this point

Phase three clinical trials is the brick wall. That's where prototype drugs go to die.

>>15189588
Actually, the phase of clinical development where drugs are statistically most likely to fail is phase 2

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pharmaceuticals-success/success-rates-for-experimental-drugs-falls-study-idUSTRE71D2U920110214

>>15188009
You am retard

>>15189403
Pretty much this. The big thing is research and (sorry Pendy) diversification. I'm currently in GALT and LPTX and have been eyeing AMRN. If I have 4 grand split between those 3 any one should pay off the other two plus leave profits. If two hit then I'm in really good shape and can afford the third going all NVAX. The really big thing with bioshits though is just not to count on any single one to pay off, because that's a great way to get burned.

I literally do the opposite of you retards and have been up 567% YTD. Suck my 7.5" cock

you buy otm call options on blue chips a week out on margin with absolutely no diversification? huge doubt.

>>15189704
post ur trades guy

>>15189721
DOMSCUMM is the truth. If he was DOMSCUMMing he'd be doing what we told him and he'd be up more than 576% YTD

>>15189733
Explain domscumm to me because it just sounds like a horrible std you get by
>have sex

>>15189535
I told him some uncomfortable truths...

He's right about me and Merck though, I really like Merck.
It's just a well-run company with great drugs that's kicking the snot out of other pharmas like Pfizer. It can't go up forever, but I think they have a very bright decade ahead of them, unless someone finally tops keytruda.

LPTX's recent trials have been using Merck's keytruda drug, which has been a real miracle for many cancer patients, and has been gaining approval for more uses.

Merck has also stated that they're not looking for big, expensive deals, rather they're looking for "bolt-on deals" which makes me hope, against all odds, that they'll acquire LPTX.

That being said, it's a total gamble, and I'd rather own Merck than LPTX (I own both). Investing on the hopes of future acquisitions is more like gambling.

Merck, UNH, and JNJ are my three healthcare favorites, and the Dems have given us some great buying opportunities. Thank you Bernie!

>>15189535
>Yo I spent basically all day watching a YouTube channel that just shows videos of pandas
>They are the most adorable animals, but I just don't understand how they've survived the last 10000 years. They just seem so unfit from an evolutionary standpoint
I heard they weren't living like the way you see them in zoo when they are in the nature, but the people misunderstood them after they're almost extinct from the wild.

>I want to have one or two as pets. The bamboo would bankrupt me but that is a price I'm willing to pay
China would not allow that. Nowadays all panda around the world are sent out by China, usually as gift to strengthen bilateral diplomatic ties, so that if countries relationship with China degraded, they can stop sending new panda to those countries after old one die or in case those panda were only lend out they can recall them, so that those countries will be deprived of panda. Even if those panda are able to breed new little panda in foreign countries, the bilateral agreement that send those panda to foreign countries would demand them to be returned back to China. Allowing private ownership of panda will break this entire system and that's something China would not allow as long as CPC remain in power.

>>15189692
I agree that in retrospect I should be more diversified
After GALT, I'm going to stick to at least 3-4 companies at one time

The ones I have my eyes on after GALT are

>CATS (not a biotech, healthcare company that uses AI and data analytics to reduce the cost of health insurance for people with behavioral disorders, has partnerships with many of the US' largest health insurance providers)
>DYAI (not a biotech, drug discovery company with a Sanofi partnership)
>ATHX (need to do more DD on this one, but they're a stroke biotech with basically no competition in their niche)
>MRKR (down big recently because of a fail in pancreatic cancer [even that data was somewhat encouraging imo], which is a notoriously extremely hard indication to treat despite very promising results in other cancers)

>>15188557
"great wall of china" is a series of many walls, and they did a terrible job of protecting the middle kingdom (multiple times throughout the centuries)

also parts of it have been torn down and then rebuilt quite a few times in history

there are tons of chinese dynasties started by northern invaders (Qing, Yuan, Japanese puppet states) in fact its a common theme, small but superior northern army invades vastly populated but inferior quality army of the south

>>15189744
you first have to know the backstory. The backstory is the DITMLCSMM
pic attached, some posts from the archives

>>15189764
yeah they took the Pandas back from Sand Diego zoo earlier this year after some tariffs
that just means that they don't get to charge the San Diego zoo the outrageous panda fees anymore. I think it was 250k/year for each panda, and they charge more if the pandas give birth

>>15188557
are you seriously using a wall built 600 years ago to justify modern politics? i'm okay with the wall as every sovereign nation is allowed to dictate what is built on their land but this is just a fucking stupid analogy.

>>15189787
fugg wrong pic

>>15189804
panda's are so fucking popular im certain that 250k a year vs how many tourists they attract is a small price.

>>15189804
I don't get it. Why not just buy itm debit spreads instead? sideways movement won't increase your long call value unless a shift in IV/rates/delta occurs.

>>15189836
theres a reason he doesnt post anymore, hist first "pick" was a catastrophic failure (all in calls on RCL)

the day before a kid fell of a RCL cruise ship, tanking the stock (lol)

>>15188557
Do you know that when Qin dynasty in China first started building those world, it became a symbol of the suppressive tyranny and ended the regime in just three decade's time.

>>15189836
The point is that the DITMLCSMM didn't know what he was doing, he was just another new trader who convinced himself that he found a magic infinite free money trading strategy a week after getting a RH account. There are many such stories

>>15189804
Now the only reason DOMSCUMM was created was to make fun of our friend the DITMLCSMM anon.
Unfortunately, he has not been around here for like a week, so maybe his small portfolio has been hurt beyond repair.
Anyway DOMSCUMM is a joke, but it plays into a bunch of the same "free money" mentality that a lot of people who "invent" trading "strategies" try to convince themselves of (as long as I just chose to buy the right thing, I can't lose)

>>15189834
from what I heard it was really putting a pressure on their finances. zoos run pretty tight. And 2bh the bamboo costs for pandas are NUTS, they had to pay bamboo costs and all the normal zoo costs (facilities, specialized vets, etc.)
zoos are not profit centers, they have huge costs and don't make that much off tickets.
read this:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2006/03/united-states-panda-zoo-animals/

all of that being said, I still want pandas in my life right now

>>15189871
oh my god lmfao rip that guy

>>15189645
think about your trades. chump change.
think about the market manipulators. free finance degree for me, and maybe for you, assuming you're not as much of a dipshit as you come off to be

Feeling guilty right now because I spent my entire paycheck on hookers and drugs knowing damn well that money should’ve been invested into the market or other needs /smg/, oh well

>>15189896
>Royal Caribbean is just watching and monitoring the rape epidemic
hot

>>15189914
thats fucked up dude
you might as well tell us about the hookers and the drugs though
did you make them do any nasty freaky shit?
did they smell weird or did they smell good?
are you out of drugs or still got some for the weekend ahead?

>>15189884
San Diego zoo has about 4million visitors a year. entrance fee for an adult is 56 + 46 for a child. even if all of the visitors are children and only 1% for for the panda's that's 1.84million and not including merchandising and concessions. panda's being one of the most prized and rare zoo attractions in the world.

Any day traders or swing traders here who can
>explain the risks?
>do you make enough that is it your job and thus you dont have to go wagecuck?

>>15189771
that really isnt diversified at all

>>15189874
Hong Kong Anon is the hero we don't deserve.
Stay strong, friend.

>>15189914
Imagine the dividends you could collect if you delayed gratification...

>>15189954
I'm not looking for Jack Bogle boomer ultradiversity here
I like the healthcare sector
I just want to not have literally everything in one stock

>>15189938
listen dude I think pandas are cool too
but read the natgeo article I posted
they had to pay China 1 million USD panda per year. Then 600K if the pandas had a baby. Then pay for the vets, enclosures, literal tons of bamboo, etc.
so they're looking at easily 3million/year if the pandas don't have any cubs

the article I posted:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2006/03/united-states-panda-zoo-animals/
goes through the whole thing, about how expensive those cutie bears are.

fun fact about panda cubs: they weigh as little as ~4 ounces at birth, half the weight of a human newborn

>>15189963
what does it feel like bros?

to shoot a fully automatic mp5?
>>15189943
depends on how you define risk. there really seems to be no set metric at all. is risk the unrealized loss in equity? the loss in the permanent ability to make money by dividends/options? a function of standard deviation and volatility? who knows.
>do you make enough that it is your job
i could if im willing to go all in amd and write calls every week.

>>15189988
just invest in like a single other sector, nigger. like an etf or something. whats your all-time profit?

>>15190005
>depends on how you define risk. there really seems to be no set metric at all.
uhhh

>>15189820
>i'm okay with the wall as every sovereign nation is allowed to dictate what is built on their land
also itd be nice if it wasn't a unilateral decision based on one branch of government that technically shouldnt have that funding power

>>15190005
>to shoot a fully automatic mp5?

Supposedly super smooth. I'd love to try.

FUCK WALLS, WE WANT MORE QE

>>15189914
where do you live? lets hang out

>>15189990
Calgary in 2018 got panda's. attendance went from 1.1million on average to 1.5million. and this is buttfuck nowhere calgary. so my 1% assumption is very conservative. even at 10% a place like san diego would reap 18million a year + concession and merchandising like dolls and cups.

>>15190008
I could just stick some of my money in VTI to diversify outside of healthcare (don't @ me talking about how SPY is better than VTI either)

>>15189764
This, China has a complete monopoly on Pandas. They're licensed to zoos who promise not to breed them. It's pretty wild.

>>15190062
>Calgary in 2018 got panda's

Oh yeah I forgot all about that. I should go to the zoo and see them before they are returned to China.

>>15190064
that sounds perfect, just do it. biopharm is just high-stakes gambling

>>15189884
>The point is that the DITMLCSMM didn't know what he was doing, he was just another new trader who convinced himself that he found a magic infinite free money trading strategy a week after getting a RH account. There are many such stories
The best part of this is that he wasn't even doing it the way he described. He couldn't have been because he simply didn't have the money. I guarantee he was planning this strategy and spending hours looking at options tables and letting his confirmation bias run wild with all of the contracts he "would have" bought.

>>15190055
They are gearing up for it. Treasury is selling bonds like crazy which means they plan to use that entire ceiling by the end of the year topkek.

>>15190055
>>15190112

yo what if

think about it
what if the Fed uses their balance sheet to build the wall
what if Jerome just holds a press conference and says "instead of just buying a trillion JeromeBucks worth of equities we're going to buy 800Billion JeromeBucks worth of Equities and also build a really nice wall"

they could do it

>>15190085
healthcare sector has real dangers, if P*n** were investing more than monopoly money he wouldn't be putting all his eggs in one basket.

Personally, I think it's over blown, and that UNH, MRK, and JNJ dips are all worth buying.

But going all in one stock or one sector is asking for trouble.

>>15190138
This would be a good thing because?

>>15189585
Higher div?

>>15190180
qyld is like 11% annualized, payable monthly is usually just shy of 1%

>>15190152
we would get a cool wall and the stock market would pump

>>15190138
Bruh no no hear me out bruh, what if we just went all in QE, yo hear me out, and we radicalized the zoomers on this site with fake infographics to shoot central american immigrants while all of us short firearms on the side.

More money for QE, same effect tho, and we get rich off of socially programming younger generations, you dig?

>>15190278
>socially programming younger generations
every generation tries this and fails.

How pissed off do you think the greatest generation was when their kids started dropping acid and going to woodstock to fuck in the mud? Fucking boomers...

>shorting firearms
this doesn't seem wise to me...
Kids are all hopped up on video games, they're gonna want them guns

Today is the 1 year anniversary of the legendary tale of Richard "Beebo" Russell, aka Skyking. Say something nice, /smg/.

>>15190351
>>shorting firearms
I'm with you on this, I don't think that shorting guns is going to be a good play. If you look at AOBC and VSTA they're both working things so that by the time guns actually got banned (if that was remotely possible, it's really not) they'd be fully functioning "outdoors" companies. RGR on the other hand, I don't really know if they've got anything going on other than guns.

>>15190362
It really was the best shitpost I've seen to date.

>>15190388
Also to expand on this, now may be the time to start accumulating. The election is close, and mainstream media is going to be telling everyone that Trump is way behind in the polls one way or the other.

>>15190362
I wanna do a loop...
>tfw no sky queen gf

>>15190494
hehe

>>15190388
Surely you mean VSTO...

They're all getting fucked though and no one I trust can tell me if any of them are worth buying, and trying to assess these things on my own has fucked me over more often than not.

I need to get good, or just stick with selecting stocks from recommendations of individuals whom I have selected.

>>15186007
What in the actual fuck?
I thought this was standard sundown /x/ posting...

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-08-09/meet-the-spy-11-kids-with-250-billion-riding-on-their-lives

>>15189963
By the way it seems like Hong Kong police have changed their way to handle those protests as they appointed someone to specifically plan the strategy to handle these public events and the Chinese government is also changing their way to handle these protests as they started punishing Cathay airlines. It look like China want to resolve everything before the National Day on October 1st.

>>15190835
oh ho ho anon... you really think the elite don‘t practice occult blood magick? /pol/iti/x/ memes exist for a reason you know.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-07/as-china-halts-purchases-of-u-s-onions-unknown-buyers-step-up
>As China Halts U.S. Onions Purchases, ‘Unknown’ Buyers Step Up
Is it China? If not, who?

>>15190901
Perhaps a middle man?
If they can launder the basedbeans, maybe they can get around the tariffs and skim some of the difference?

>>15190880
I like you, Lou. But you're a little too pol-schizo for your own good, I think.

>>15190908
>Such unknown buyers often were thought to be China, which typically brings in about two-thirds of global basedbean exports. However, the Asian nation’s government on Monday asked its state-owned enterprises to halt purchases of U.S. agriculture products as the trade war between the countries escalated.

>“With basedbeans, we usually assume it’s China,” Arlan Suderman, chief economist at INTL FCStone in Kansas City, said by phone. “In this environment, it certainly would be risky for a private buyer, and I’m skeptical it would be state buyers either. I’m guessing in this case it might be another country.”

>>15185938
discord
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>>15190963
Neat, but it doesn't rule out the possibility of scalper/middle man.

Hell, if you're a bean producer from south america, and you buy a bunch of US beans, then mix them up with your own beans, and sell it all to China, who's going to know the difference if you say you just had a really good crop that year?

Interesting about them changing the way they handle the protests... I don't know what that means, but if that's true, the end of september could be a very chaotic time, globally. Brexit is also scheduled for October. (and there's a fed meeting in september 18)

Who else here /quanttrading/?

>>15191035
Get out and never return.

>>15190908
im only replying because i love mum, but this is really weak bait irregardless.

Are all of you roleplaying or are you all really this fucking retarded? You're studying the wrong fucking part of the markets.

>>15191211
most of us are both (roleplaying and retard)
if you're so clever, post ur trading history ;^)

KHC going all out now

>>15191349
>3 mayos
>Kranch
it's a hard no from me

>>15191349
Do you market research based on /ck/? Becasue Buffet does.

>>15191349
holy fuck how did i miss the
>saucy sauce
im fucking done lmfao khc will be bankrupt in 2 year's time.

>>15191349
yikes.

>>15191349
>mayochup
>not fry sauce
They're finished, that last leg down has initiated their death throes

>>15191386
Idk what /ck/ means?

>>15191349

> all these foodlets

brainlets and stomachlets out
KHC road to $90
supermarket takeover
we will NOT be denied

>>15191421
well, you get to try your mayomust at least. Sucks that they didn't call it mayotard though, must have focus tested that and realized it sounded offensive

>>15191465
I stopped eating relish and just use pickles wedges now, but Its like really acidic
I can feel my teeth getting softer and thinner because I eat pickles everyday on my morning hotdog

>Japan will effectively lower South Korea’s standing as an important security cooperation partner in this year’s defense white paper, a Defense Ministry source has said, reflecting the worsening of bilateral ties.
>>15191349
Which is Big'N Tasty's sauce abd which is the McDonald's Signature burger sauce?

>>15191492
oh god you still eat naths every day? What about the tootsie pops? I'm pretty sure eating pickles shouldn't melt your teeth, we need to revise your nutrition. Buy zinc and niacin pills.

I really need to buy some foodstonks at some point. I've got one share of PEP, but I was hoping to lower my basis...

>>15191211
What's the part of the market we should be studying then, fren? Bonds or something? Fundamentals? Trading activity/daily volume?

>>15191182
It's not bait, I didn't make it, I just thought it was a good picute.

How do you people get triggered by that shit? If I send you an email that says "forward this to five people or your mum will get rekt tomorrow" would you then feel the need to forward it?

>>15191536
I do without exaggeration eat hotdogs every morning. but yeah I brush and floss diligently but my teeth still melt away. Ive already had 3 fake teeth replacements I dont really know what to do. It might be the big amounts of gin but I wash my mouth with water like every 10 minutes

>>15191609
how many hotdoggies you eat
chicago style?
or some no-bun style?

are you just microwaving em or do you grill every day like a true chad

>>15191609
>I wash my mouth with water like every 10 minutes
What? Water can't be better for your teeth than your own saliva, can it?

I think that amount of hotdog has to be an exaggeration.

>>15191641
yeah with the normal amounts of chlorine and stuff in water it seems like a bad idea to introduce new tap water to your mouth constantly

even if the water is really super clean clean, you might end up sapping your mouths own nutrients and stuff out. you probably want some minerals and stuff

I'm not a dentist though

>>15191609
you did say you wanted all fake teeth, but now your fakies are wearing away? I don't think liquor has enough of a ph or sugar content to mess with your chompers, maybe it's drying out your gums? My teeth were fine throughout my drunk phase, beer has enough sugar that you need to brush afterwards tho
>>15191636
my secret favorite hotdog cooking method is to cook them in 1/4 inch of water in a pan. Tastes just like the ballpark without getting soggy from bioling. Grilling always gives them an odd taste to me

>>15191636
I just microwave two nathan famous hotdogs and add it to Balpark/nathans buns and add heinz mustard + claussen pickles. Sometimes I have a third or 4th at night

>>15191641
Its two hotdogs I eat every single morning for breakfast, but I drink 15-20 shots of gin per day . thats what the water is for, also stopping my fear of kidneystones

>>15191673
I dont know, my teeth have like weird ridges in them that trap stuff. I dont get cavities anymore because oif the hardbrush, but I can feel my teeth getting like thinner and softer

>>15191673
no matter how you cook the doggies, Chicago style really is best
I love all kinds of dogs and brats and other sausage products
but gimme that dog on a poppyseed bun, some relish, mustard, raw onions, sport peppers, etc.
those are the core ingredients IMO, the auxiliary are pickle slice (1/8th), some celery salt, tomato slices.

>>15191609
I eat and drink like shit and my teeth are prestine. Yous a damn LIE

>>15191706
Are you getting enough nutrients? The hot dogs have plenty of protein and fat (which should be the bulk of your diet) but do they have calcium and iron and stuff? Maybe your circulation is bad and it's cutting off the blood from your teeth? They're living bone, they need that right?
You ever get sharp, poking pains in your lower back that travel up under your ribcage on both sides? When I was 1L of bourbon a day that started happening, I was pretty sure it was my kidneys and I had evil visions of septic lesions and tooth-studded teratomas forming in there and poisoning my blood. Try tapering to 12 shots a day for a couple weeks, then 10, then 8, then 6, then 4, then 1, than none?
>>15191714
gimme dat sport pepper nigga, extra brown mustard with the seeds too

>>15191747
Alcohol makes it much harder for your body to properly extract nutrients from food, so there's that...

>>15191747
>eat healthy and cut down on your drinking

wow thanks mom
next you'll be telling us to drink lots of milkies and get a j*b

>>15191765
def true
>>15191796
we all have a vested interest in nikkinikki being as healthy and quick-witted as possible. I'm considering respeccing from my lemurian time sorcery/retrodivinatory timeline dictator build to full on orgone healer to help him

>>15191747
Dont get physical pains yet, but I have mental pains
You know, my beloved manga permanently ended 5 days ago. I have nothing left in this world. the only thing that can stop the gin use at this point is BTH
its over for me

>>15191809
if he wants to keep drinking it doesn't matter what we think
did we ever watch time bandits on a Saturday and I missed it?

>>15191817
rip
be strong
the end of a good manga or a good book is a difficult time

last year I was reading tokyo ghoul :re and at the end the mangaka just threw in the towel and basically ruined the ending

>>15191817
o no
at least h is healthier than booze?
>>15191842
no we haven't watched it yet. I don't know what we're watching tomorrow, I'll look into finding a copy

>>15191860
we can watch whatever you want, of course. I thought Heathers was a very nice little movie. Cute 80s girls too ~
I only brought up Time Bandits because you mentioned that you were a time sorcerer, maybe you enjoy historical times. I haven't seen it in over a decade, but I think it is another fun 80s movie

>>15191796
Sweet Vishnu, look at the toilet on this one...

>>15191860
Kinda want to watch one of those Shackleton docs that /out/ creams over.

>>15191817
Nuuuuuuuuu then you can't beat the S&P on a consistent basis YoY!!!
Don't fall in to the BTH, there's still good things to enjoy, like manga!

>>15191975
Ooh, I watched at least one of the shackleton movies as a kid, the one they recorded themselves on shitty b&w film cameras? That was super cool (hehe), I'm pretty sure it was only like 45 mins long though
Also nikki has a will of blackened iron, and I harbor a probably pretty dangerous and medically unsound theory that quitting opioids is actually easier than quitting alcohol if you're a bad enough alcoholic. Being dopesick is fucking horrible, but alcohol withdrawals can kill you. I had a month where I was fucking around with a few oxy 20s a day, stopped and I had a shivery pukey weekend. Nothing compared to h, but I can approximate the feeling. I once was stranded without booze for 2 days and it felt apocalyptic, literally like I was John of Patmos watching the world end, heart rate 150 bpm, full body shakes, this crazy feeling like ASMR tingles but absolutely wracking my legs, sounded like I was deaf when I talked, shit was wild.

>>15192135
I think they use that footage, probably combined with narration and testimony, etc. to flesh out and explain. They had a thread where a few people were claiming that different versions were better:
>>>/out/thread/1575624
I'm not sure, I think that link will work, if not you can figure it out.

I haven't known rat as long as you seem to, so I can't make any claims. Weening off of benzos is child's play compared to full on alcohol withdrawal, which indeed can be fatal, so I can't pretend I can relate. But there are few posters, and few people that I like. I like rat (most of the time). Don't want it to die.

>>15192196
I think the cross board linking is just
>>>/out/1575624

as explained : https://www.4chan.org/faq

>>15192135
>>15192196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne4ZHU5mNjE
This ons seems like it could be good, 97 mins, narrated by Liam Neeson
>presented by Morgan Stanley
kek.

Might be able to find a higher def version
Might not fit with the spirit of movie night though, it's a little Ken-Burnsy

>>15192231
nice, cheers.

You guys are good people okay?

>>15192234
oooh Liam "Kill a black bastard" Neeson, we might have to go with that
>>15192298
you too gwim!

Uber is looking very juicy, any anons in on this that would like to explain their thesis?

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4283798-new-residential-investment-corp-cherry-hill-mortgage-investment-corp-2-companies-2-portfolios?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-widget

Anyone in NRZ a bit worried about the fact that they've issued preferred stock twice now in the past month?

>>15192641
oh god I'm going to have to read this when I wake up.

Fugggg...

>>15192686
It seems like it's a bit wishy washy, but I'm a bit spooped by this. I wouldn't mind pulling some money out of NRZ just to put it back in if we get another crash like December.

Also I don't think I saw anything besides pink wojaks about KHC. Not issuing guidance for the the rest of the year seems pretty bad.

>>15192690
I don't know how to evaluate a business like this, but issuing more stock is usually a bad sign.

And it's not one that I've had vetted by respectable minds. I love yield but... I know this one has risks and I've been fucked too many times.

>>15192698
as soon as they cut their dividend, it was a sign that things were going to be bad for years. Add in the accounting "difficulties" and the fact that they're spinning off business so they can keep selling shit like velveeta... I don't understand how they've missed the food zeitgeist so badly. No mother goes and buys kraft mac and cheese when there's an entire display of friendly looking annie's right next to it, and it says something or other that about natural or organic.

KHC may have a hope of recovery, but it's going to take a while.

At least they aren't stuck holding the back on non-divvy turds like I am.

>>15192735
One of the things I like about NRZ is they seem to be in a defensive position for all interest rates scenarios, obviously they would prefer a rising rate situation. I'm not sure how much of this is them blowing smoke up our asses, but it's somewhat convincing at the very least. One of the things they mentioned on the earnings call before the most recent one was that the MSR's they own rights to are longer term more financially stable ones. I'm not too sure if this is bullshit either, but it's nice to hear.

One thing I did notice about the KHC call was they did mention plant based substitutes. I giggled a bit when they said that, it reminded me of that one anon prophesying KHC will be the largest plant based processor in the world and that it's essentially their endgame to BTFO BYND. Also apologizes, I'm pretty buzzed and I never drink so I have no clue how coherent all of this was.

>>15186624
>Kraft
Aha
Ahaha
Ohihoho
AhaHa!
Hohohohonon no no no
HAHA!

>>15192762
Wew you actually read the slides from their earning call?

I didn't know I missed their ER, I just had a limit buy for them set for their recent lows.

So you feeling some of the FUD from their ER? Have you picked apart their balance sheet?

Kek at everyone trying to get a little hype from BYND... I'm more bullish on Tyson's fakemeats than an unseen KHC product, but I think their "part meat part substitute" will likely flop. Their fake chicken nuggets could do well though, if they are any good. I may have to do some "research"...

>>15192814
I read NRZ's earnings slides because they have some of the most clear and concise ones I have ever seen. Everything is so easy on the eyes. I'm a little FUD because of the preferred stock and the fact that all their peers appear to be floundering. Lately I have been extremely flippant on my opinions and susceptible to articles. Not a good feeling anon. Feels like I have no idea what I'm doing. Every since Cypress Semiconductor got bought off, I feel like I have no clue what I'm doing and what I believe in. I got a small position in Sierra Wireless, but it's so damn hard to create a thesis around it other than "IOT" and "5G".

http://ir.newresi.com/Cache/1001255066.PDF?O=PDF&T=&Y=&D=&FID=1001255066&iid=4347089

>>15192849
I have that feeling constantly, not just when it comes to investments.

But in the interest of staying in topic I am getting concerned about the short term uncertainty. Hong Kong, Brexit, fed, and global easing.

I’m thinking a may get another rough fall/winter. I would really like a good exit point on a lot of my positions, and a good entry point in gold, since I have no exposure to “safe haven” assets like PM and bonds, but it looks like I missed the boat on the gold rally, and it will continue until I finally cave in and buy some.

>>15192959
Yeah, it's not a good feeling anon. I feel like I don't ever know enough. It could be that everything is priced so highly.

>>15193059
In terms of P/E or what?

>>15193068
Yeah. So I feel like I have to be really sure of what I'm buying because chances are it's probably valued too high. Whereas, if there are cheapies around everything is quite appealing.

>>15193080
Yeah... it’s tough. I don’t want to sit out the rally and kiss the bull run, but I also don’t want to miss out on cheapies.

Alright I’m gonna get a little sleep if I can, be best Grimes.

whats the plan

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