/biz/ - Business & Finance

Yes, i'm very bullish about tendermint/cosmos ecosystem, binance building their dex using this tech and facebook libra also

Im very interested in the idea of interoperability in cosmos ecosystem op can you elaborate

>>15048864
cant buy dont care, how do i invest in this

>>15048912

buy tokens in the exchanges?

>>15048930
you mean all the shitcoins op listed?

>>15048910
interoperability will be possible thanks to IBC (inter blockchain communication protocol) and it will allow chain to transfer tokens and data between eachothers.
so you will be able to move eth from ethereum chain to cosmos chain then trade it on binance dex then mix it with sentinel mixer then use it to pay for mapping on foam etc...
tokens are now not limited to their own chains but they can live on other chains, they move between eachothers thanks to hubs, hubs are the biggest blockchains in tendermint ecosystem and will have the most amount of traffic cause zones will have to pass through hubs to move to other hubs or zones on a different hub

>>15048864
>-binance dex

binance dex is bloated to fuck because of tendermint. it's 600gb already. tendermint is shit.

>>15048950
tendermint had a seed round, but it was only for institutional investors andbig VCs, if you want exposure on this tech you can buy some % of each the coins i listed

>>15048950

If you call virtualized ASIC miners a "shitcoin" LMAO

>>15048958
pruning will be implemented, and can get executed easily thanks to the inbuilt governance module.
for sure chain weight is a big problem but it can be solved with various tecniques like recursive zksnarks chain pruning or mimblewimble like teqniques and abundant use of layer 2.
chain bloat is a problem that will be solved and is already being solved my multiple teams and projects

>>15048958
innovation happens through incremental iterations, next scalability problem that the blockchain ecosystem will need to solve chain bloat.
EOS for example has big problems cause of this their chain is already several terabytes of data, filecoin is developing some tech based on recursive zk snarks and starks that will solve this that can be ported to other chains.

oh btw i forgot that also Tezos is gonna port their chain to tendermint, so you guys can see how every major player in the ecosystem is moving to tendermint based architecture, its better to get exposure early before the market notices the value of tendermint based projects

>>15048952
So i will be able to move BTC to cosmos chain for example ?

>>15049038
any chain that has multisig can get connected to any project building on tendermint, you will be able to move your BTCs onto binance dex and trade them there all directly from your wallet.
some projects like sentinel are pushing this to the max by allowing to pay for their services in any coin that is connected to their chain so even BTC.
thorchain for example has built the first bridge to ethereum chain

my interpretation of how tendermint will be used is tendermint projects will simply become BTC sidechains allowing btc to get every capability of other chains like ethereum.
ever tendermint chain will be connected to BTC and will offer services to btc holders, tendermint chain don't wanna fight against btc like ethereum community is trying to do, tendermint wants to integrate with btc, cause the understanding is BTC is the SOV of the blockchain ecosystem and it will acrrue most monetary value and in time become stable, if btc gains all the capabilities of competitors thanks to tendermint it will only cement this position.
fightning btc is retarded, integrating with btc is the right answer.

Redpill me on E-Money. What a terrible name and logotype.

>>15049256
No chain has a working, truly decentralized, two way peg with BTC. Script is too limited. Anyone who says they do is lying.

>>15049269
its gonna be a zone on cosmos that issues its own stablecoin backed by euros and swiss francs, they recently launched testnet.
they will allow any project in the tendermint ecosystem to access the fiat world and have fiat gateways. if you have more specific questions i can elaborate more

>>15049294
Sounds good but wtf is that branding. Fire whoever came up with that.

>>15049279
schnorr will allow multisig with any amount of singers , thus solving this problem so for example if there are 100 validators on cosmos chain there would be a 100 keys multisig on btc chain thus ensuring as much security as cosmos chain.
it can be also done with custom logic like for example to transfer btc at least 2/3 of the multisig participants must sign, this way it will be more secure.
it can be also done in a POA way where banks important individuals and financial institutions become signers of a multisig, tendermint simply allows btc banks to happen both as a layer 2 scaling solution and as a way to give btc more features.
look at blockstream liquid it works in a federated way were exchanges and other important individuals are part of voting scheme, and i would say its reasonably secure and accept widely in the btc ecosystem, tendermint allows to do the same but with stake on top

>>15049326
yeah the branding is meh, they probably don't care about that cause they will just be a stablecoin issuer, or maybe they will get better marketing budget once their product becomes more used

also if you guys are interested one of the biggest commodities trading hubs in singapore processing billions of trades each year will be settling transactions on a tendermint chain

>>15049344
>look at blockstream liquid it works in a federated way
Never thought I'd see someone talk about liquid as if it's something to emulate. I'll give you schnorr, when is it coming? Still not an ideal solution but better than standard multisig I guess.

>>15049373
trust layers with different security propertys/guarantees built on top of bitcoin are inevitable, so its better to understand them and benefit from this coming trend.
schnorr BIP has been submitted by wuille some months ago so i think we will see it implemented before the end of 2020 probably earlier, they are now in the review and auditing process, it will also have taproot together allowing bitcoin scripts built inside the pubkeys

also keep in mind that there will be more solutions built on top of schnorr that will make the whole interoperability easier like channel factories and statechains

>>15049408
>trust layers with different security propertys/guarantees built on top of bitcoin are inevitable
It didn't have to be this way. It's absolutely possible to have BTC verify sidechains in an almost trustless way. A single opcode to verify SPV proofs. I'll never understand why they don't implement it, it would absolutely rape every altcoin and cement BTC as the root of all trust.

Channel factories are a whole other story and they still don't solve the mass exit problem.

>>15049373
If schnorr sigs are important to you, use BCH. Already implemented there

>>15049446
yeah you are right on the SPV part, but i guess there is nothing we can do about this, blockstream wants to monetize and bottleneck the bitcoin ecosystem so they can benefit from it through liquid, keep in mind that im not against blockstream im just a realist and currently the schnorr multisig solution is the best possible.

>>15049465
get the fuck out of here we are having a discussion between adults

>>15049478
>blockstream wants to monetize and bottleneck the bitcoin ecosystem
>im not against blockstream
Why? They crippled bitcoin so badly.

>>15049465
Half a step up from BSV streetshitters. There's no memepower in forking and screeching about being the REAL bitcoin.

>>15049536
because for me the most important bitcoin quality is the cap on the supply of coins and the predictable emission rate its literally every austrian economist dream.
also there are some benefits on "crippling" bitcoin this way it creates a niche where third partys and legacy markets institutions can build and integrate, this way they have some skin in the game too and can somwhat benefit from a possible transition, is btc was a "pure" and perfect system no one of the current middlemans would be encouraged to integrate, this way they have only to shift their infrastructure and they can benefit too from the transition from $ bank to btc bank.
non sovereign people will not be able to transact on btc layer one anyway, this gives space for the incumbents to pivot becoming btc custodians and facilitating faster settlement

>>15049587
Fair enough. It's still possible to be pro-bitcoin and anti-blockstream. I don't buy the conspiracies but they're clearly a bad influence.

>>15049602
there is nothing we can do about it, also keep in mind that cryptographers are the rarest breed of workers in the world, so its only normal that there will be a small group of people controlling btc and trying to tax its use, and i frankly think its fair.
kazaria kananites used to tax the trade to the east now they will tax people that wanna access soverign censorship resistant wealth, people that wanna move their capital through borders or people that want an alternative non centralized settlement layer.
if/when we get more cryptographers this problem should be solved

>>15049634
>tax
>soverign censorship resistant wealth
It's not sovereign wealth when it's controlled by a small in-group.

>when we get more cryptographers this problem should be solved
The source of control is not technical know-how, it's controlling the main hubs of communication. Twitter army, plebbit and bitcointalk.

>>15049634
lmao I forgot it's a tendermint thread, won't derail it with more whining

>>15049704
don't care i find this discussion interesting so lets continue

>>15049685
dealing in absolute can create defintion problems, btc in its current blockstream form is surely more sovereign and censorship resistant then any other SOV or MOE in circulation.
a small in group for sure controls btc but they have limited ability to change the core protocol till a certain degree, for example they will never be able to remove the 21m cap.
the loud minoritys that influence the social discourse are for sure part of the armed branch of the same inner group, in fact most louds btc shillers meet in a single chat and plan the narratives for the coming months together but its all an extension of the same blockstream/bitfinex group.
i guess when more players get in the game the whole situation might change, but i also think that we will see an ossification of the btc layer 1 before that happens.
plebs have no power and they are only lead by the current cattle rancher

>>15049756
>most louds btc shillers meet in a single chat
redpill me

>>15049766
lol there is nothing to say more then that, btc is shilled like any other coin on /biz a small group of people chooses the narrative and pushes it together, the world is small, most people dine at the same table with the same steaks.
loudest btc shills went to school together or are mostly from florida and are kananites

>>15049793
Fug i thought you meant there was a theymos-modded chat I could join with some effort to see what the current narrative is.

>>15049809
lol, that would be fun

anyway i like their work, btc has the strongest intolerant minority that rejects most change.
and has the equivalent of some comandments
21m cap is sacred etc...
the social consensus must only get stronger and stronger and more intolerant for btc to work

>>15049834
Agree. I just wish they'd have gotten ZK-proofs in there before it's too late to change anything. Incredibly versatile and could verify basically anything from sidechains to more exotic L2 stuff. Much superior to gorillion-key multisigs.

>>15049867
yeah but we both know its probably not going to happen

anyway ive been in crypto for a long time, and i think the next big trend after ethereum is tendermint based sidechains, for people that see this early there is going to be lots of opportunitys to make many BTCs

>>15049908

Yeah, the future belongs to those who see opportunities before they become obvious

Binance, Facebook, Sentinel and others will own the future and you fudders will suck their dick lol

>>15049936
tone it down dude, this is a civilized discussion, no need for shilling so blatantly here , smart people will see where the trend is going by themself.
people that won't buy tendermint projects now will just buy higher later

>>15050029

hahaha well said, buy now or more expensive later

>>15050182

fantastic

Tendermint cosmos ecosystem (:

>>15049373
Bro you dont know. You just read medium articles. You are the labour bitching at the engineer.

>>15050338
Nah.

>>15050182
Do you think we will get a bitcoin backed stablecoin like makerdao ?

>>15048864
While I think tendermint/cosmos will be the basis for a lot of new platforms, I don't think ethereum dapps will go away entirely.

One downside to the tendermint architecture is that each hub needs its own validators. This can make getting new projects off the ground more difficult when compared to a dapp that can use the existing eth validators.

Another piece is being able to use tendermint to wrap assets and push them onto the ETH Blockchain. Existing dexs may be able to use this to avoid a migration. I'm curious to see how easy this interoptibility can get- it may be possible to have the best of both worlds and use cosmos only as an integration layer for small dapps that may not have enough users to get a large validation group.

Still super bullish on cosmos. I just don't think it'll replace eth just yet. It made tradeoffs for the sake of interoptibility, and it may not make sense as a platform for every dapp yet.

If someone created a platform within cosmos for these smaller dapps to live within via some sort of VM that can share validators (sort of like the ETHVM project that appears to be dead- no commits in 7 months) then I think it can become the be all end all.

>>15050803
yeah ethermint has been dead from last december, no commits, but i think once they have finished implementing IBC they will start the development again.
by that time i think tezos will have adopted tendermint consensus and will be part of tendermint ecosystem.
but you can't easily port eth projects to tezos thats a problem.
keep in mind that there is a protocol being developed for shared security/validator set, that would cut down costs significantly.
i still think that eth is pure garbage and we won't get full pos for years, also shards are just a retarded concept.
even if eth 2.0 comes out if its treated as a fresh start it will take forever for current apps to migrate (i.e. existing economic value)
And even then if all "defi" apps and tokens load onto a single shard for speed/cost reasons then we will just have the exact same issues as now...
some dapps are unbuildable on ethereum scalability is a huge problem, thats why they now pivoted to defi cause they can't accomodate the needs of dapps

>>15050803
the easiest solution is ethereum hardspoon, but it will come only after IBC

>>15048982
ah yes good old mimblewimble zksnarks

>crypto dissapears up its own arsehole and dies

>>15050803
isn't it only hubs that have validators? And ethereum would be a zone?

>>15050879
both hubs and zones have validators, there is some work for shared security so that validators are only needed for hubs
>>15050878
crypto endgame is that it becomes so private and compact that you don't even know how much coins you own

>>15050895
ah ok, yeah i dont really see why zones would need their own validators honestly if they could somehow share the security of the hub

Don't forget about SENT
Solid project that will be a part of it.

>>15050926
there are some technical difficulties being solved for that to happen, but you can be sure its being worked on

ok is this another sent pajeet dilated discord funkspiel

>>15050941
do you think that the sentinel hub will be a big hub on the cosmos ecosystem?

>>15050956
sentinel will offer mixing services to the whole tendermint ecosystem, so i think it will play a big role.
kava will be offering a makerdao like stablecoin it will also play a big role

>>15050955
im a tendermint maximalist , cause i think this is going to be the next big trend, any projects building on tendermint is surely ahead of the curve

>>15050987
agreed, I currently have atoms but I'm unsure on whether to buy sent or not, any other hub on tendermint you'd recommend?

>>15051018
just buy everything that has tendetmin, build a tendermint index in your portfolio

>>15051050
Does a transaction on a cosmos zone give a cosmos validator transaction fees? Or would it only give transaction fees to the zone validators?
Think I've read somewhere that all zones go through the hub, so then hub validators would get part of the transaction fee, right?

Bake tezos, validate cosmos and zent hubs.

Life good.

>>15050926
In a perfect world

>>15051129
only when you move tokens from chain to chain the hub gets fees

>>15051141
yeah stake stuff and let money work for you instead of being a 24/7 wagecuck
with cosmos you tax interchain settlement+
with sentinel you tax interchain mixing
with kava you tax interchain stablecoin use
with tezos you tax secure smart contracts use

>>15051172
Ohhh boi, the differences between capital and labour markets.

>>15049326
Baking and branding lol.

Branding is more Johnny wayne

>>15051193
try to explain the difference between capital and labour markets to /biz and they will call you pajeet

>>15051210
Sucks to be labour is all i know.

Even the doctor is just a hand.

>>15051155
ok so that would include moving them from zone to zone?

>>15051252
yeah zones are not connected directly you have to pass through hub

Not going to lie, I don't know much about the technical aspects in crypto. I make my bank on the idea that everyone else convinces themselves they are an engineer, and thinks they understand the technical aspects. Ya kno. follow the Luddite wave of thought.

>>15051250
letting capital work for you is not something easy, most kids on biz think they will get rich and not loose their money, they are just lucky the bubble is working for them, but once it burst (altcoins) only the smart ones will know how to not loose money

>>15051278
i follow cartels that form around specific ideas, like the paypal mafia.
a nice mafia is being formed around cosmos and tendermint projects

>>15051287
The only coins that will survive the bust are ones that propagate nodes to state and private actors. Which is already done. The regulatory arbitrage part. Thats why facebook is now saying, we don't know how long it will take to launch Libra. All this is proving is that you can not launch such a system with out attempting to propagate the node and system in a non corporate way. You have to LARP as open source. Well there are already dozens of projects well ahead, backed by the same capital partners who made Facebook a "thing". Spend 5 years getting permitted by the state dept, or just LARP as open source and meme?

>>15051299
agree, capital cartels move the markets. The plebs call this "market manipulation" but don't realize that majority stake owner ship of the market by a capital cartel is an artifact of the market, not manipulation. The wealthy own it all, the oil, the forest, the farms, the bonds, the equities, and the bitcoin.

>>15051335
The last THING you want is an asset that has even GINI / distribution into poor/ low class markets. The communist , the poor, the plebs, are never going to have the velocity to move the float. The wealthy move the float, they are the moon that causes the tide to move. There is giant misconception that you want a float that is evenly distributed to a bunch of poor low IQ retards who don't know how to work the markets in their favor.

>>15051318
most open source devs are just state agenst anyway, and if you go around the open source repos you will start to notice always the same actors on the most important projects, getting permissions on a repo is the new infiltration game of the last 20 years.

>>15051335
don't forget the water, water will be one of the most profitables longs you can take in the coming years

>>15051349
yeah BTC was never born to bring equality, it was just built to tax the inflationary money printing system.
for btc to become global reserve only the top 1% must adopt it, the 99% will only follow, people that care about txn speeds on btc main layer don't understand that big capital wants a later that only they can use, bct layer 1 was never meant for poor people.

>>15051358
They have to be, to many state actors and Private transnational corporations which support nation state security have critical path systems built on these open source repos. Securing them with the right culture, and labor is a national security task.

>>15051389
Equality is for faggots who will never spread their gene pool and die with HIV. Yea BTC is a guild, the guild is owned by the stake holders of the network, and the guild taxes inflation/ deflationary stance between large capital markets and nation states. Bitcoin is a DAO, and it gets to survive as one, because it does not state that it is a DAO.

>>15051389
Why should the plebs have the right to freedom of capital movement? The plebs can barley stay out of debt, and maintain healthy diets. Only the top of the capital pool need such a system. Because the more capital you have, the more nation state, class, and private actor bias you have against you. The poor hate you, the state wants to tax you, and other private actors who compete want to lay waste. Being able to move 20m dollars from two nation states, with out censorship for 6 dollar transaction fee. Is just mind blowing.

>>15051433
thats a very good analysis and i agree 100%
the more efficient crypto projects move and act as DAOs, were every single individual take responsability upon itself and pursues individual action to make the whole and himself richer more powerfull more stable or whatever the stated goal of the dao is

You watching this hearing anon?

>>15051457
people still live with the clas warfare mentality where the rich oppress the porr like in the finest marxist tale, while its the exact opposite the system is rigged against capital accumulation and its made for capital extraction that benefits the bottom of the pyramid at the expense of the top

>>15051467
You know how much wealth bitcoin would have kept in the hands of the bourgeoisie during WWI and WWII? ALL OF IT. Their would have never been any change in wealth. The bourgeoisie would have been able to sink all their assets into the Bitcoin, move it cross border, and than begin to diversify the wealth once in a safer haven.

>>15051475
yeah dude yesterday hearing was good

https://www.banking.senate.gov/hearings/examining-regulatory-frameworks-for-digital-currencies-and-blockchain

>>15051500
This is why the Jews love Bitcoin, and many other minority ethnic groups.

>>15051487
The bro to bro communism cash coin fairy tale is sick. Yep, just check out who gets to have kids. The low iq family on welfare, the educated family, who works a combined 80-100 hours a week, has more wealth, does not get to have kids. The state takes capital, and than subsides the lower class to out breed the higher class. This is Marxism 101. Do you short or long genocide? The technique has just been refined. You long genocide over Longer periods.... Marxism did the same. Killed all the productive and intelligent members of society and than subsided the lower iq.

>>15051500
imagine how different the world would be now if that happened, no more usa syphoning away all the wealth and the best minds after having destroyed european industry ww2 was a plot for usa to dominate industrial production and take it away from eu inbetween the other thing ,bankers from usa funded both sides

>>15051542
yeah they simply eliminated the bloody fast and messy part but cities are just big gulags these days, just go to SF and see what is happening there

Noia Network -
> Backed by Microsoft
> Cisco (just announced) that they have integrated Noia in their segment routing code
> Marketcap of less than 1M
> Low Initial circulating Supply ~ thinly traded only on Kucoin

To be listed on an Big Asian Exchange soon and there's anticipated Airdrop that's taking place soon - snapshot on the August 12th

I think there's a pump incoming soon!

Noia Network -
> Backed by Microsoft
> Cisco (just announced) that they have integrated Noia in their segment routing code
> Marketcap of less than 1M
> Low Initial circulating Supply ~ thinly traded only on Kucoin

To be listed on an Big Asian Exchange and there's anticipated Airdrop that's taking place soon - snapshot on the August 12th

I think there's a pump incoming soon! You can thank me later

>>15051566
Check out abortion rates. The lower class now self censor their own gene pool as well. A culture created by the high class. ( Bill gates dad)

>>15051574
Nice anon. How is the Korean penetration? Tiny market cap. Good STUFF.

>>15051587
abortion is just a disgrace, the west will be gone in 2 generation if abortion is not outlawed soon.
i guess we can hope in a nice financial crysis to wipe the baord and reshffles narratives again, globalism and progressivism have done their damages, now the rubber band will launch back

>>15051546
Global brain drain into the US is a big deal.

Top intelligence goes to the united states, and never goes back home. Than these foreigners are subsides via affirmative actions and other means, which makes their margins and surface area risk less, gives them better chance at having kids, while the domestic population does not.

> Foreign population comes in, gets free everything

>Domestic population gets attacked by LGBT narrative

>Domestic population has worse margins, and 0 moral structure

>No subsides for domestic population

>Domestic population replaced.

>>15051613
It is to late, the numbers do not add up. Africa is suppose to x2 in population, the Islamic world as well. Mean while western populations are hitting -3 to -8%.

>>15051631
if the tide gets too bad i see a counter reaction possible from white populations.
at some point immigrants will break the west social structure cause they are incompatible with it.
habeas corpos and basic christian morality is something that third world immigrants from africa don't have in their genes.

This hearing such a good LARP. Using one of the biggest growth companies of the last decade to legitimize "crytpo" LOL, and than using the evils of that company (facebook) as the polarity to make Bitcoin look good and "pure".

>>15051614
the selection mechanism is flawed , so it will end up being a complete mess.
its just like when an infestant plant (like bamboo) comes in a garden and suffocates and kills all the other varietis

>>15051663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31MI5c7LYSU

The meme is starting to change. The secular world is now the Popular set. The popular set never changes the winds of time.

>>15051670
those fuckers , they all own some BTCs lol
they probably bought the top, now they have to pamp it higher to get out at a profit

>>15051676
Darwin is on its last leg, so is LGBT. You keep hearing the "left" saying were not going to win. We forgot about all the FAMILIES out there. The degeneracy that happened isolated the Family. All these people who celebrated this liberal state of mind are not 19 any more. They are 30 year olds, with out kids, with out home ownership, tattoos, purple hair, LGBT morals. Their ideology failed them. They still sit in the lowest caste of society.

>>15051706
yeah but thats why they are dangerous, they failed at life so they wanna have revenge by bringing down everything with them burn it all type of scenario for society

>>15051676
Thats what diversity means. Put on your Mao one sized fits all grey suit. Be a piece of bamboo nigger.

>>15051729
marxism will continue killing till they power is taken out of the masses hands. its always the same a self defeating malthusian trap

>>15051726
They are dangerous to themselves. None of these people are part of the craft labor pool that supports the critical path systems. From the pipelines to SEMPA, none of them are part of the upper echelons of capital or govt, none of them are in corporations. None of them own guns. None of them know the basic of survival like the traditionalist class/caste do. Their only skill is to be replaced by bots, so the govt will give them UBI as to make sure their idl minds do not become dangerous. This UBI will just create more inflation, and capital velocity, making large capital richer, and all labor pools more poor.

Why cosmos is dank. Its run by big capital pools who don't give a fuck about this communist shit that is raping its way thru crypto like herbalife to obese people.

>>15051729

They hated Jesus because he told them the truth

>>15051760
i see the scenario you described as something will should strive to make happen, whoever is not a primary producer should get replaced by bots, superlous services for superflous people will cease to exist

>>15051777
cosmos knows that power lie in small ineterst groups and they optimize for that
tendermint is just an engineering tool made for capital/dao to optimize around governance structures while having a sovereign digital area to operate

>>15051817
So cosmos is what eth + dao should have been, with higher scalability , ive been reading through the thread nice concepts

>>15052035
yeah and it fixes eth mess, cosmos adopts superor horizontal scalability which is way better then sharding.
sovereign chains will win over a isolated kingdown with a centralized tyrant.
vitalik got offered job by google after he fuckes up eth he is going to move to google chain

>>15052054
Yeah social digital and consensus parts mix well together, thanks to this pure DPOS system tell me more anon

>>15051779
Every time the majority FUDS the minority , you play the minorities game. You have stepped into their realm. This is the Nash equilibrium. Fud is retarded. The only Real fud, is not participating at all. By not purchasing, and not commenting. Learn to fud for real.

>>15052837
look how LGBT took over.

>they created polarity

>everyone was forced to play in their arena.

>vocal minority wins again

tendermint is the manifestation of the will of the guild redirected to security and profits maximization through manufactured incentive systems that are not subject to the same rules of the physical world
>>15052336

>>15053152
You seem the kind of investor that goes meeting, the team in which he is investing directly, how was atom team ?
Did you meet any other tendermint project team directly ?

l2english

>>15053152
Well put, the age of guilds are back; they are here to take back guardianship and put it into the proper custodianship. There must be 12 foots walls to separate the plebs from teh guild at all times.

>>15053635

>>15053635
i actually haven't met atom team in person, but had a chat on zoom, they are pretty based, but they got too rich too fast i hope they don't become lazy, anyway other projects on tendermint will take their place if they start to move slow and stop innovate like ethereum did

>>15054011
yeah the smart crypto players will build offgird citadels with fully self sustaining abilitys
energy production
food production
workshop with all the tooling needed to fix and create new stuff
better if in areas with low population density that are abandoned

>>15050719
Maybe WBTC will become available as a collateral type in MCD

>>15054286
its better to have a btc backed stablecoin native of the tendermint ecosystem, less custodianship problems

>>15054535
Libra is building on tendermint ?

>>15055088
libra is building on hotstuff which is a modified version of tendermint

>>15048864
imagine not scooping up SENT at these prices before mainnet. SENT staking will be collecting a % of all transactions going though the privacy hub.

>>15050803
>ethermint
https://github.com/ChainSafe/ethermint

looks like they are developing it in another repo

>>15055779
a good time to get some SENT was at 13-4 sats

>>15055779
Not a real project. Not Tendermint. Just a clone of a non-crypto open source VPN project. Fuck off with this shitcoin.

>>15056444
https://explorer.sentinel.co/

its on tendermint actually and has its own blockchain (on testnet), and all vpns are built on openvpn.
so this are not valid arguments, as i said above i have a bag of every valid tendermint project.
please research better your facts before shitposting

>>15056444

It will be the 3rd hub in cosmos ecosystem idiot. dVPN just one of the zones. Even binance research mentioned sentinel as a top project, to be rich it pays to be well informed and not a fucking idiot like you, that's why you will die poor and your wife will leave you for smart men like me

>>15056684
Dude the lead dev is in jail and this is a 10 dollar an hour pump effort. Better sell now cuz I don't think low grade shilling will work on this scam.

>>15056727

any proof? these are all lies, no one believe idiot

I'm in touch daily with all the devs in the official telegram

You are lucky this is 4chan, if you say a lie like that in front of me you will need a new face

>>15056727
Post source or gtfo, you would never know if sent devs got jailed cause they are anon, so you are just talking shit out of your ass

>>15056144
It is less than a penny lol.

>>15048909
Post one microscopic barely significant SHRED of evidence connecting libra to being built with tender mint you fucking idiot

>>15056727
lol this is carrot fud. Nigger trying to get cheap SENTs. He see's the % gain opportunity so he wants in.

>>15056808

oh my good, it's well known facebook is building with HOTSTUFF CONSENSUS WHICH ITSELF IS BASED IN TENDERMINT, USE GOOGLE FUCKING IDIOT

>>15056808
go through LIBRA specs and you will see that its based on hotstuff which is a modified version of tendermint, this is all basic concepts.
most of the main contributors in hotstuff are part of the tendermint team

>>15056684
LOL you aren't wrong but I'm not sure you want that wife ^^

>>15057153

yeah, she must be as retarded as him, thats why they married LOL

>>15057260
LOL, ethereum is dump fire tho they will never deliver scaling

>>15057822
yeah progress is too slow, and hashrate is plummeting, overral security of the whole ethereum ecosystem if being depleted, ethermint will solve these problems

>>15058084
Wow i just watched eth hashrate chart, there is no bottom it seems

>>15058566
eth competitors should all launch in the next year, all smart projects will port to more usable chains

Eth is like the old testament, its just a book

>>15059308
The real flippening with be COSMOS flipping ETH

>OP shilled this thing for 15 hours straight
kek

>>15048864
>switching away from ethereum and building their own tendermint chains
that's called a "server". They are moving to their own server.
There's literally no way to profit from this. There's no general "private blockchain" token that gains from it.
>loom
>tezos
you don't even understand the difference between an interchain peg and actually using tendermint as a consensus protocol

I'm very very interested in Cosmos but I have a few questions about ATOM's

They stated they don't want ATOMs to be like currency. They are still toying with the idea of doing photons. but yet Tezos is fine to say yes treat Tezzies as currency. So that seems fucking dumb to limit Atom's potential. They've been clear to say "no it's only for staking and voting rights in the cosmos hub."

well the problem is, the whole point of the hub was that new chains could use their validator set, and then validators/delegators get rewards in ATOMs + other coins.

But now we are seeing that the same validators are going to just validate for other chains like Sentinel or Kava, so there is no point to route through the hub.

Their team is legit but I can't get over the fact why they don't want to push the narrative that ATOM is money, it will increase it's value, and drive more speculation but that means more adoption. For this reason, it seems like tezzies have more value as a POS coin. However, the Cosmos ecosystem is legit, the tech is legit, tendermint is as well. And staking using the wallets is easy.

Also now that XTZ is on Coinbase, I'm presuming ATOMs will be too.

>>15050029
Yeah haha FUCKING FUDDER NIGGERS SENTINELS WILL BE $1K EOY BUY COSMOS AND WANDAS TENDIEMINT TO THE MOON

YOU ALL WILL BE SORRY CUNTFUDDERS BUY NOW SIRS PLS YOU ABSOLUTE GODDAMN RETARD BRAINLET FUCKNIGGERS

disclosure: I am unironically bullish on tendermintshit, hold lots of sent. Thanks for bread

>>15062070

Yes, staking tokens are supposed to be only staked to secure the network, not as fee token etc

Different zones will be connected to Sentinel or Cosmos hub, so inter hub traffic will also exist and generate fees for both ATOM and SENT holders

Sentinel mentioned in Binance research report as top project in cosmos:

https://info.binance.com/en/research/ATOM-2019-4-28.html

>>15063466
Yeah sentinel is as legit as it can get

>>15048864

you forgot

- not scalable

>>15064645
you need to study more, tendermint is the only truly scalable blockchain architecture, it has horizonatl scaling and vertical through layer 2

>>15048864
just to summarize..its lower version of Quant which already miles away. stop this shit here and go buy qnt.

>>15065346
tendermint has venrock capital behind it, read about it.
technology is not everything, investors are also very important, just don't let your bias/bags stop you from catching this trend before it starts, more then 80 projects are currently building on tendermint switching away from ethereum

>>15065403
How do you know about venrock ?

or you can be blockchain agnostic and integrate them all whooooooooo

>>15066366
get in the right circles and you will know too

https://twitter.com/tendermint_team/status/1156940044063522816

sent bullish

>>15066976
yeah good stuff, sentinel will get a big % of the overral tendermint mcap imo, they are the best positioned project after cosmos

>>15066941
I heard fenbushi is also behind cosmos/ tendermint

>>15068064
fenbushi invest in hashgard which is also another project building on tendermint.
fenbushi pumped eth from ico to 1400$ they are one of the ecosystem leaders, and they invested a lot in hashgard