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https://pastebin.com/TTQruvSy

it's absolute trash

>>15040831
It is an obvious gem. The best biz can come up with is pajeet. Good sign.

>>15040879
It's a shitty copy of openvpn that barely works, the latency alone makes it unusable.... wtf are you smoking.

>Good god please buy these bags!

- the post

>>15040856

mvp here

BULL. Will have the biggest % gain. Already had a x6. Do the multiplies to 0.10 cents OP.

>>15040901
>testnet has some bugs
>"100% pajeet s-s-shilling t-t-trash!!!11"
Cope. You'll eat your words

>>15040901
not even throwing a little bit of a larger portfolio at it for the huge upward potential just because everybody knows it now
>dealing in absolutes
>not using risk to reward ratios
Never gonna make it

Buy LTHN if you want a working dVPN. P2P-VPN technology + CryptoNote-based privacy protocols for payment. it's at 660k mc too so you aren't buying pajeet bags.

>>15041072
That ticker is gay bro. SENT = CENTS

To send, SENT

>>15041085
ok. buy REQ if you like tickers faggot.

>>15041072
Sentinel has the most users and traffic of any dVPN out on the market today. They are the clear industry leader and have been smoking LTHN since day 1. How many end users will buy lthn token to just use the dVPN? On sentinel you will be able to pay in BTC, ETH, Monero, etc along with fiat on ramps. The one that has and will capture the largest adoption have been clear for a long long time.

the shill farm contract is up and now we have the suckers that fell for it trying to dump their shit bags. priceless

“Computer Technology is on the verge of providing the ability for individuals and groups to communicate and interact with each other in a totally anonymous manner. Two persons may exchange messages, conduct business, and negotiate electronic contracts with ever knowing the true name, or legal identity, of the other, Interactions over networks will be untraceable, via extensive re-routing of encrypted packets, and tamper-proof boxes which implement cryptographic protocols with nearly perfect assurance against any tampering. Reputations will be of central importance, far more important in dealings than even the credit ratings of today. These developments will alter completely the nature of government regulation, the ability to tax and control the economic interactions, the ability to keep information secret, and will even alter the nature of trust and reputation. “ - Timothy C. May. The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto (pg1) 1988

>>15040910
bagholders coming out of the wood works, literally hilarious

>>15041955
>parabolic user and node growth
>volume went 100x in a matter of days
>price holding strong at 40 sats compared to 12 sats last week
Tell me more about all these bag holders anon

Volume almost 600k. Insane. Accumulation levels off the walls. Wales taking use to the deep sea, too visit hollow earth frenz.

>>15041072

Lethean is a shitcoin, a fork of monero.

Sentinel hub will be a 3rd hub in cosmos like Iris and Binance, with SENT as staking token. Meanwhile lethean will stay a shitfork stinky shitcoin fork of monero

Kys already

I'm going to rekt all the fudders one by one, but please say sth beyond pajeet scam so I have sth to rekt you, use your brain for some actual critics

>>15040831
OP, we're over SENT now. No need to shill it anymore, we've moved on to the next project already. Sorry you didn't get the memo

>>15042161
Just curious how the pumped hard to a 48mil marketcap and then went down all the way. What caused it the pump and dump a few months ago?

>>15042175

There is no other project with same potential. Listen up tranny:

1. Polkadot/Cosmos willl be in top 5 next year in coinmarket with billions in market cap

2. As a leading hub in cosmos, Sentinel will reach a marketcap at least of $100m, that's x10 current price

>>15042205

Dump was caused by the macro market and because sentinel was still in ethereum, now the party has arrived, launching mainnet in cosmos/tendermint in Q4

>>15042207
So iris will also go up a lot then? Polkadot is a clear winner though so not the best example, nor would it be top 5 with the initial marketcap

>>15042220
Brainlet here. So how about token swap? Wondering if any exchanges will list/support it by then. Also, the team is anonymous. Call them embodying the spirit of crypto, or cyberpunk, but I call it shady af

>>15042234

Iris doesnt have use case and users like sentinel does, but yes will go up also

Polkadot will be connected also to sentinel hub, you aint seen nothing yet noobs

I hope you guys dont buy this exit scam. What part of this is hard to understand? They are doing a token swap because they need to pump this scam to keep it alive. They cannot afford to list it and exchanges refuse to list a shitcoin for free. You will be stuck with a useless token that you can't sell anywhere. Also, the VPN software is cloned and FREE. It has nothing to do with blockchain and is just a prop to pump an exit scam. You have been warned anons

>>15042271

exchanges will of course support the swap and do it without any issues. Team anonymous? go to telegram group and talk with founder and lead devs

>>15042276
83+ exchanges support cosmos.... yeah I am sure NONE of them will list one of Cosmos's biggest projects and hubs. Sure anon.

>>15042276

HOTBIT LISTED FOR FREE SENT YESTERDAY FUCKING RETARD

>>15042307
hotbit is a wash trading exchange with all fake volume and even they are dumping it after the swap. cosmos is a centralized scam as well. you are giving away your money kek

>>15042339
Chinese like to make money

>>15042339

Yeah cosmos is a scam, that's why binance and facebook libra using tendermint/cosmos tech, that's why coinbase will support ATOM staking and that's why IBM uses tendermint for hyperledger

>>15040856
my goodness this is the biggest buy signal ive ever witnessed

someone wrote out a fucking pastebin FUD sheet. holy fuck.

>>15042413

I just checked also, jesus christ who the fuck wrote that bible to fud sentinel? we are doing very well when people put so much effort to fud, like trump fudding bitcoin, bitcoin doing great also! lol

To anyone on the fence about buying at least a suicide stack right now: tell me, honestly, when this gets listed on Binance, do you imagine its price being higher than now, or lower than now? I'll leave you with that.

>>15042476

Are you serious? When it get listed in binance volume will go into the millions and price x10 at least from now

>>15042476
dont anon, this is a pajeet exit scam PnD

>>15042512

TO ALL THE FUDDERS: SENT FOUNDERS ARE ASKING ALL OF YOU FOR 1 TO 1 AMA IN THE OFFICIAL SENTINEL TELEGRAM GROUP, HAVE A PAIR OF BALLS YOU BUNCH OF COWARDS AND JOINED THE TELEGRAM AND FUD THERE TO GET REKT BY SENTINEL FOUNDERS

>>15042564
Tried but none of them speak or even read english, they are all Pajeets

>>15042588

Lier, Sentinel telegram channels is english, you are lier and scammer, that's why you fud sentinel little rat

>>15042564
Aw is your pnd campaign falling on hard time? Btw for those who don't know, there is a token swap soon and there is no plans for any exchange to support the swapped coin, you think trying to trade this on idex with no liquidy is bad? Just wait till there is literally no where you can sell this, that's what awaits you if you buy this....buy at your own risk

>>15042605
Your English is horrible as well Raj. Nobody is gonna buy this broke ass shitcoin. It's clear the devs are paying you $3 a day to pump this shitcoin so they can exit scam. IT'S NOTHING BUT A CLONE OF OPENVPN WHICH IS FREE

>>15042620

another lier, all exchanges will support the token swap salty tranny troll

>>15042644

It's a fucking hub in cosmos, IQ below 50 like you should not be allowed in biz, I will make a thread about this soon

>>15042657
> says he's not a paid pajeet
> can't spell "liar"

>>15040856
Programmer here, can confirm this is true
as a product this is a bag of shit
but it might still pump to high heavens

I ain't betting on this though

>>15042672

I'm writing fast to respond to all your fucking fud motherfuckers, I write better english than all of you put togeher

>>15042675

go to sentinel channel then in telegram coward, they will teach you a good lesson

sentinel dVPN is only enforced encryption VPN out there, fucker

>>15042706
>enforced encryption VPN
do you even know what that means Panjeet?

>>15042706
The VPN is just a prop to pump a fake token that is not even used. They discussed this in the private telegram last year. They need to dump as much as possible because they are getting delisted from all exchanges after the swap, which they probably won't complete because they already quit supporting the project

>>15042740

YES IT MEANS ENFORCED WITH HASH FUNCTIONS SO ANY NODE THAT DOESNT RESPECT THE ENCRYPTION CANNOT JOIN THE NETWORK

PANJEET IS YOUR WIFE THAT COMES TO SEE ME AFTER YOU GO TO FLIP BURGER IN YOUR DAY JOB AT MCDONALS

>>15042744

THE MAINNET IS COMING IN Q4

TESTNET IN TENDERMINT RELEASED LAST WEEK AND TOP 10 COSMOS HUB VALIDATORS JOINED

HOTBIT LISTED SENT YESTERDAY FOR FREE

AFTER I AM RICH THANKS TO SENT YOUR WIFE WILL LEAVE YOU AND COME TO MY BED

>>15042937
"enforced encryption" isn't a "feature" argued against in the pastebin though
if you're implying that nodes won't be able to keep logs, then I'm sorry, they factually can.

>>15042954
Why the caps lock? Not only are you edgy, you also have autism. KYS

>>15040856
>>15042675
This post reeks of low IQ angry teen
>They can still see that you're communicating and most importantly WHO YOU'RE COMMUNICATING WITH.
They can see that my pc is communicating with a pc in australia even if I'm actually requesting data through the VPN from Japan, this means that they do NOT see that I'm in fact communicating/requesting data from Japan.

>You're NOT invisible when you use a VPN, and they WILL come and get you if they feel like it.
You're invisible in the term of your ISP not knowing what you're doing, however the exit node of the VPN will go through his ISP and that ISP can then see what that user is doing, but they will not know that it was you that requested that data. So if you're in Iran and want to visit github which is not possible you can connect to a node in Europe and access github as normal without Iran having any idea you're accessing github. But if you're doing illegal things, surely they can come after you by going to the exit node and check who requested the data from the beginning, this is A LOT of work however and needs different countries police forces to work together which they most often do not because in most countries they aren't allowed to walk into a random house without any sort of evidence that a crime has been committed.

>>15043164
>No Logs. This one infuriates me because it's so obviously bullshit. Sentinel bills you per GB of traffic. How the fuck do you expect them to keep track of your bandwidth usage without some kind of logging? Additionally, they claim to have "strict code integrity principles" in order to enforce a no-logging policy, which, again, is complete bullshit.
There are no logs, if you buy bandwidth you put in X amount of currency and then you have for example 1 GB of data to use on a node, if you do not use all the data before your session ends you'll get the currency you didn't use back. There is no data log of what you did during that time or who you paid (Swixer), it's basically in an escrow that gets paid later on and the node that your payment goes to might not even be the node you used. There is no data logging and you can confirm that by the code.
Even if the end node logs the data it can never know that it was you that requested it. This is the difference between a dVPN with relay compared to a VPN company, the VPN company (most often) has to keep logs, and they do know who it was who requested the data, the exit node only knows that another node requested it, but they do not know if this was the user, a relay or entry node.

ANONS look at this
https://delta-summit.com/speakers/
Head of Strategy of Sentinel - James Mcdowall speaking where Cz speaking.

2-4 October the world will be secured.
Ps:binance

>>15043175
>Your operating system knows (and HAS to know) who is connected to it. There's no way to keep anyone from logging connections at the OS level. Let alone the fact that there's no real way to enforce code integrity (e.g. alack of modifications to the sentinel software) on anyone's computer. The industry standard to actually achieve something like that is to scan your RAM and filesystem for modifications to the software (examples include various gaming anti-cheat softwares). They do not ship such a system with the sentinel executables.
Your operating system knows that you're connected to a node, which can be in Finland, but the data you're requesting might be from the USA your computer doesn't know who the exit node is, it's just sending a request to the node in Finland to send it forward to the USA, but it never knows which exit node you go through.
If you modify the dVPN software it would
A) Not work
B) Give you no info
The relay node only gets encrypted data and does not know what data you're requesting from the exit node, only the exit node will know which data you're requesting and as I said earlier, even if the exit nodes logs WHAT data you're requesting it doesn't know WHO is requesting it.

>>15043191
>It's risky to run an endpoint (assuming the promises are true) As VPN provider it is strongly reccomended to keep logs. The reason being that if someone does something illegal through your connection (e.g. wanks off to CP) and gets caught, you have no way to prove that it wasn't you without logs. In that case YOU are in really REALLY deep shit.
Yes it's risky to run an exit node, that's why there will be TOR exit nodes as well and companies will be encouraged to run exit nodes through the business suite that Sentinel will be providing, companies cannot be liable for the traffic.
Also there are a lot of TOR nodes run by normal people who has never had any problem. But yes running an exit node is a risk.

>Sentinel is really damn expensive
There is no way to know the price yet and it will most likely be a lot cheaper than a regular VPN because there will be much more competition than between regular VPNs which will lower the price a lot. The cost of renting out your PC while you're sleeping is literally 0 compared to a VPN with servers. Bandwidth is cheap in europe and in most countries (in the EU) you don't even pay extra depending on the bandwidth you consume, you just pay a fixed price so hosting a dVPN node is profit only with no downsides. So no the price wont be expensive.

>>15043164
The entire project is based on people thinking they did anything but clone and rename OpenVPN. Like there is any use for the token at all. This is just an exit scam before it gets delisted from the last exchange it is on

>>15043211
>It's just OpenVPN/SOCKS
(Almost) Every VPN provider uses OpenVPN, there is no reason as to why they would develop their own VPN technology. What benefit would it give?

>IMO sent is a bad investment
You literally only touched on ONE of all the use cases that Sentinel will provide. It's a hub on the cosmos network and dVPN is only ONE zone of what the hub will provide. Other people can also develop services/dapps on their hub and they already have several other services in development, one particular one that IS going to bring a lot of activity to the Sentinel hub is Swixer which will make any transaction going through it anonymous (even if its BTC, ETH or NANO or any other currency)
Sentinel will be a privacy layer on the cosmos network providing privacy to those who want it, most of the crypto space can agree privacy is one of the most important fundamentals and this will surely bring activity to Sentinel hub which equals profit for SENT holders as they get part of every transaction fee going through the Sentinel hub

Tip
ALWAYS USE HTTPS to make sure no one can see what data (except for the website owner) you're requesting other than which site you're on.

>>15043164
>>15043175
>>15043191
>>15043211
damn anon destroying all fud one at a time

>>15042937
> tfw literally not even qualified to shill a shitcoin

>>15043182
https://delta-summit.com/speakers/
scroll down anons
watch twitter too. he is followed by CZ (CEO of BINANCE)

>>15043218
>im retarded anon help me understand what the sentinel hub is
Sure thing anon, the sentinel hub will be a hub that provides different services/dapps etc, one of these will be the dVPN, but its only one of the services, other people can also develop services on top of the Sentinel hub, a service/dapp has it's own zone within the hub but every transaction goes through the hub.
SENT holders (delegators) get paid by staking their coins to validators and get a cut of each transaction fee from every transaction going through the Sentinel hub.

the dVPN is just a small part of what Sentinel actually is.

>>15043274
:-)

>>15043164
>You're invisible in the term of your ISP not knowing what you're doing
>But if you're doing illegal things, surely they can come after you by going to the exit
Yes that is the point dumbass, you're not invisible

>>15043175
>>15043191
>There are no log
You're missing the whole point here. The server running the dVPN node, knows who is connected to it, on the OS level. Heck a random router in the system knows who's connected to who and can keep logs. The point is, the operating system or any other software, besides the dVPN node, can log connections, how much data is transferred between each, etc. If you argue that there are no logs, any IT person can call your bullshit.

>>15043294
Anons must be blind. Everything is open source.
U still say Sent is a scam. kids grow up.
Sent will hit 1$ at binance.

>>15043354
> SENT literally being delisted as we speak and paying cheap pumpers

>>15043419
Ye and im Arnold Schwarzenegger
Anon go sleep

>>15042620
you post this almost exactly word for word in every SENT thread queer... we get it you're worried people might get scammed so it's your super hero duty to save everyone with copy pasta EVERY SINGLE THREAD.
stfu queer

>>15042620
>Aw is your pnd campaign falling on hard time? Btw for those who don't know, there is a token swap soon and there is no plans for any exchange to support the swapped coin, you think trying to trade this on idex with no liquidy is bad? Just wait till there is literally no where you can sell this, that's what awaits you if you buy this....buy at your own risk
Never bought this obvious scam anon but keep up the good work

>>15042620
This theory is more stupid than that the sun is black.

China will use NKN.

>>15043511
Fuck I wish they could at least afford english speaking shills. It's all true, they are paying to pump this one last time so all of you bagholders are stuck with no place to sell. Don't get rekt anons

>>15043419
>SENT literally being delisted as we speak
what the fuck
sauce nigger

I hope EU kill Meme so 4chan die and there is no fud about real useage crypto like Sentinel.

>>15043329
>Yes that is the point dumbass, you're not invisible
You can never be invisible, but you can do your best to make it harder for them to track you.
As I said, them going to the exit node does not mean that they will find you as they have to go through 2 other nodes (relay and entry) and then to you, if the countries don't cooperate which I said most won't do because they won't have any evidence that the other nodes did anything illegal which means they cannot just go and access their computers, therefore their investigation is stopped at the exit node.
Don't stop reading halfway next time.

>The server running the dVPN node
There is no server you dumb fuck, that's the whole point of a DECENTRALIZED VPN, there is no centralized server that keeps logs of everyone on the network. Do you think bitcoin has a server as well? Do you understand what DECENTRALIZED means? fucking moron.
My computer would only know that I'm sending data to the entry node, my computer will never know who the exit node is and the exit node will never know who I am. That's the whole fucking point, you're such a fucking moron thinking you know shit when you don't read up instead of spewing bullshit on the internet.

>decentralized software has servers
Low IQ faggot

Ok, Now I have to Block the Whole word Sentinel too. NBD

>>15043605
The entire notion of DVPN is technically flawed. There will always be an exit node that can be tracked and all these will do is be a beacon for law enforcement. It pretty shitty that these scammers are putting your privacy at risk to scam you into buying a useless token.

>>15043643
How can u save your privacy? There will be always a way! Anon go buy Link and get scammed.

>>15043704
How can exit node traffic be tracked if it goes through an encrypted relay / hop network first?

>>15043605
To be fair in this context a server is just someone else's PC running a node, there is no difference between a client and server other than senders and receivers of information.

Personally I think the litepaper is too grandoise I'll only believe it if I can understand the white paper when it comes out.

T. Cs neet

>>15043704
Are you guys retarded or something? Do you not read the full post you're replying to?
This will be the 3rd time I'm saying this.
As I said, them going to the exit node does not mean that they will find you as they have to go through 2 other nodes (relay and entry) and then to you, if the countries don't cooperate which I said most won't do because they won't have any evidence that the other nodes did anything illegal which means they cannot just go and access their computers, therefore their investigation is stopped at the exit node.

Most countries need evidence that you did something illegal to do an investigation, there is no evidence that the relay node did something illegal and even by checking their PC they can't see that the relay node did anything illegal, they can see it made a connection to the exit node but not what data it sent to it. Therefore the investigation would be halted at the exit node or at least relay node as long as the crime isn't extremely severe

>>15043767
Sure, but the "server" (relay node) doesn't keep logs and doesn't know who the request was from and doesn't know what is being requested, it just knows to forward it to another node which could or could not be the exit node or the user. It's just passing encrypted data.

>>15043865
>>15043767
A normal VPN/centralized server however knows exactly who made a request and what you're request and is most probably keeping logs as well.

>>15043865
>>15043879
That's their claim yeah, the only problem is its hard to prove without verifying the integrity of the code yourself, even then how does one know they haven't made a misunderstanding/just can't understand it ( not everyone has a degree in cs or above ). Tbh I don't even know if I could understand their source without dedicating hours upon hours understanding every detail, who is expected to do this.

I know about onion routingv2 for example but o rely on other people's knowledge to accept as fact that is secure enough, this is a big problem with tech and adoptability ( try convince boomers that btc is safe even though you can't physically hold it )

>>15044259
The whole point of open source is to make it possible for others to read it, there is no point in open sourcing something like this that doesn't work as people who who care about privacy generally are computer savvy and would read the source code before they used it.

But yes of course a user might not be able to read the code as they don't have the knowledge but at the same time you have no idea if a normal VPN provider is logging or not either. But at least this is open source so you could ask someone or wait for a review on it by someone that you could maybe trust.

There is always better transparency with devs from open source projects than from those with closed source as the open source devs can't really hide their code if someone points out a flaw or similar.

Usually with technology people who know technology adopts it first, pushes it onto their friends/others and then those friends/others push it onto theirs, that's usually how things are adopted.

>>15043643
Afraid to make money anon?

>>15042512
Its foundations are solid and it meets a genuine demand in the market, but even if it was just a pnd, my point is fucking buy now because regardless it's gonna pump big when it hits binance.

>>15040831
>I have been in the crypto space since 2012

And you're still here trying to make it?! Wow, nigga you dumb

>>15044790
No they aren't, one got arrested a month ago for drunk driving and is still in jail ....fucking kek

>>15044852
better i dump all my sent cause of it.
Stop to spread shit anon

>>15044852
Is that why they are exit scamming right now? Or is it because of all the delistings?

>>15044897
This is not Substratum anon. its a newcomer at 4chan and the market.

>>15044852
wtf are you talking about, even IF that were true you'd never know because the team is anonymous

>>15044897
That and apparently there is some token swap, even though the GitHub has been dead forever, so far no exchanges are onboard to list it.... So that means very soon you not even be able to sell this on idex....the thing with pumping low sat coins, they drain back to zero slower...this will be back where it started before binance kicks out the burgers

>>15044956
yes anon it will dump at mainnet!!!!!
go back to your hole.

>>15044975
The main dev is in jail and it's getting delisted everywhere. This shill campaign is the last attempt and it's already failing. Do yourself a favor and DUMP SENT NOW!!!

>>15044956
You're fucking retarded.
There is a token swap yes. Exchanges almost always support token swaps so why would it be different this time? The token will get listed on binance after/before the swap. Binance will list all Tendermint/Cosmos tokens as their Binance DEX is part of the Tendermint/Cosmos network, it just benefits them. Also since they have already listed Cosmos and most Tendermint tokens are the same (like ERC20 tokens are the same) there is nothing they really have to do to list it other than to open a wallet compared to listing a coin with a whole new blockchain.

>>15045013
yes he is right
twitter.com/JamesMcDowallCX
The Senpai Cz following a ghost

>>15045013
Why do you think he is in jail? Fucking moron

>>15044852
>rumored actions of some nameless faceless anon detract from a crypto's foundations and the fact that it will be listed on Binance regardless somehow

>>15045045
He got doxxed on twitter, he was a jr. javascript dev with a drinking problem. Common knowledge. Yes he is a fucking moron.

>>15045079
isnt most of Sentinel github in go
go back to your hole anon

>>15045079
You're funny. Sentinel is written in Golang.
No one who is a jr dev would have the knowledge he does, if you check his github you can see that he has contributed a ton to Cosmos/Tendermint, not a small feat and any "jr dev" doing that would be seen as a genius.
You'd never know if he got doxxed or anything either because he is anonymous, you have literally no idea who he is and he doesn't have a public twitter either.
Try and give me any proof of this shit you've claimed. Oh you cant? Low IQ fags like you cant even make up lies properly

>>15045093
That's the point, all they did was clone an open source VPN tool and cut and paste a solidity token tutorial. I don't think he even has a real developer job. Well now he doesn't cuz he's in jail.

>>15042687
mate you can't hide your indian grammar, you can just tell as a native english speaker, you may as well have an indian flag on every post like /pol/

>>15045164
I love how you ignore all of my posts with your retarded fud, neck yourself

>>15045164
U are talking about the real chad here.
I hope he will lead u to the right way or Sentinel will liquidate your short beta.
Stop to spread bsss

>>15045164
You are the Hillary Clinton, you were created to add polarity.