/biz/ - Business & Finance

Vpns don't help when you have KYC at every turn

CZ knows about sentinel

>>14957051
Do you think DEXs will just disappear?

CZ mentioned sentinel in his binance research article on cosmos

>>14957051
you just need to use privacy coins anon

>>14957063
>>14957092

>>14957078
They are all being forced to do KYC by America.

IMO of all the dvpn projects Sentinel is the best one, its the only one with its own blockchain

>>14957063
>>14957092
CZ will be forced to help a dvpn project, cause he doesnt wanna loose american volume

also sentinel team received 500k ATOMS from cosmos team, thats a huge endorsement from one of the biggest projects both in mcap and value

>>14957135
There is a new top exchange every other year. Don't think a true DEX will come around? Have you seen IDEX's new 'kyc' requirements? They are a joke. Just submit a fake name and use dVPN.

>>14957136
Isn't Sentinel ERC20? How do they have their own chain?

>>14957197
They will be swapping tokens once they launch main net, but they will still be connected to ethereum through a bridge once IBC launches

Why cant you fucking Americans just follow the rules? You're ruining this space for everybody else.

Exchange requires KYC?
Submit the real documents

Can't own unregistered securities?
Don't buy them

Exchange doesn't allow US customers?
STAY THE FUCK AWAY, DONT USE A VPN YOU USELESS PIECES OF SHIT!!!

I'm so fucking sick and tired of Amerishits thinking they can go anywhere and do whatever they want. Hopefully Trump crashes your economy and you're all forced to cannibalize each other like the stinking fucking rats you are.

SENT’s relay network is definitely the leader in the dVPN space. The rest don’t even come close.

do dvpns work?

>>14957300
that same line of reasoning goes like this
chinese government doesn't allow people to criticise the government or chinese to buy crypto cause its used to flee from chinese economic bubble so chinese should just back down and slide into a completely dystopian society where government also own their sould through social credit system ?
if laws are unmoral its our duty to go against governments

>>14957334
yeah you can download and use sentinel dVPN for free from here > https://sentinel.co/
as of now there are 475 people using it
live stats > https://stats.sentinel.co/

>>14957300
How boring of you. Just roll over and submit to your overlords. Not everybody is a retarded submissive cuk like you. Some people actually fight for their freedoms.

>>14957300
It's our right fren :>
Don't you realize if something isn't aloud... we find a way around it and convince others it's fair to :>
You are making money in your country doing what? Don't mind if i get in too, don't worry if you don't willfully allow us we'll make you :>
God it feels to be a mutt

>>14957037
vpns are oversaturated and will never grow big in marketcap

>>14957300
Hahahaha what a faggot

>>14957381
dVPNs are the most undervalued niche in crypto, while for example prediction markets are overvalued augur has a 130 m mcap and 20 daily users
gnosis has a 20m mcap
while sentinel has more then 9k daily sessions with a 3m mcap.
sentinel is not being fairly valued cause of a lack of education in the crypto ecosystem
nobody would use a closed source wallet for their crypto while everybody uses a close source vpn

>>14957381
Are you tired of being such a pleb? The VPN market is huge and growing exponentially. Do you honestly think this will not transfer over to the next gen decentralized and open source networks? I bet you thought the internet would never take off and the fax machine would still be the main means of information transfer.

>>14957300
this literally goes against the very foundation of america. every american is taught from a young age to stand for what they believe in. hell, that's how our country was created.

get on the rocket anons

>>14957173
Or just wait for RenVM's testnet and see if a truly decentralized DEX can be built on it.

>>14957534
redpill me on REN

>>14957300
this is for muh terrorism retard

I can't find a vpn that doesn't shit up my internet speed

>>14957587
try sentinel it has nodes with all kind of speeds, you will find one that suit your needs.
a higher latency and a bit of slower speed is however normal when using a vpn, its the cost of privacy and being safe

>>14957534
One exchange falls or goes KYC, 5 more will pop up in it's place. There is too much opportunity in the space to ignore.

>>14957556
Ren is building a decentralized virtual machine (RenVM) in which up to 10k nodes (called darknodes and amount of nodes could change in the future) Can run decentralized and private applications built on RenVM. The transactions are all private as they are sharded into several pieces and sent anonymously to the nodes so that no one can see the transaction amount, address, etc. The VM also allows interoperability between any blockchain, thus a mega DEX with the liquidity of all blockchains can be run trustlessly while preserving the privacy of its users. Think about how massive this can be. Testnet is around the corner and we will then see just how powerful it will be.

>>14957662
if it develops liquidity i will use it, ive been dreaming of a liquid interblockchain dex for ages i think also komodo decred and cosmos will be launching something similiar

>>14957662
i think ren uses tendermint like sentinel and cosmos right ?

>>14957746
I'mnit too sure. Ren and AZTEC are intertwined, I believe cosmos will also be a part of it although nothing of the sort has been announced yet.

VPN will be a $54 Billion market by 2024. Just like Uber was the death of the taxi cab, decentralized VPNs will be the death of the traditional centralized VPN. Everyday users will be able to host their own nodes.

These small cap projects are just getting started. Pick the strongest 2 or 3 projects in the space and enjoy your gains. Doesn't get any more obvious.

>>14957769
yeah i just checked REN uses a modified version of tendermint "Implementation of consensus mechanisms for coordination of Darknodes with the Hyperdrive iteration of Tendermint"
https://medium.com/renproject/rens-future-in-defi-d34ffd903192

so it will be able to communicate with cosmos and sentinel everybody will be able to exchange tokens on dark pool dexes and use them for dVPN

>>14957817
Nice, yes that is indeed the case. Since it will be decentralized even from the team it is up to the community to built any use cases they see fit on it, including private dex'es and such

>>Use a VPN
>>Get account frozen for suspicious activities

>>14957911
Sentinel announced Enterprise grade solutions that will allow you to have your own private server that isn’t shared. You will be able to connect from the same IP consistently.

>>14957939
yeah thats very good stuff, mostly governments and corporations will set up private nets for emplyees traveling abroand, no similiar solution exists

>>14957876
it would be nice to have a ren wallet with sentinel integrated cause if you have private transactions and private trades but you leak your ip you get rekt anyway

>>14957746
whats tendermint? I've been doing some digging and they've been talking to the Chainlink team. I've also seen a pile of Tezos staking platforms (they also seem to have something to do with whatever Cosmos is) talking to CL.

>>14958039
tendermint is the consensus algo that blockchains like sentinel cosmos tezos and ren use.
chainlink might be thinking about launching their own blockchain on tendermint, the huge think about tendermint is that blockchains that use it can be all interconnected together and move tokens from one chain to the other.
so you will be able for example to use sentinel mixer then move your now private coins to chainlink chain and use it for pay a oracle then move your coin to ren and to a dex trade.
tendermint is the future lots of projects are moving awat from ethereum to tendermint :
https://forum.cosmos.network/t/list-of-projects-in-cosmos-tendermint-ecosystem/243/11
cause tendermint is faster and more easy to develop on also tendermint is DPOS and allows staking

>>14957789
History repeats itself over and over. Just look at how the sharing economy is disrupting taxis (uber), hotels (Airbnb), etc.

You would be retarded to think this will not happen in the VPN space. You have an idle connection sitting at home doing nothing. Why not monetize it and earn some profits? Why would you go with a centralized VPN when you can go with a dVPN that is open source with provable encryption/no logs?

>>14958088
sentinel (which is the best dVPN project) will disrupt the bandwidth industry like amazon disrupted the retail industry, suddendly everybody will be able to sell and buy bandwidth in a global market making bandwidth the first fully digital fungible commodity, this is an untapped market potentially worth billions of dollars

>>14957511
That's pre-boomer America.
Everyone since the 1940s has been completely brainwashed.

>>14957135
>Caring about a declining empire trying desperately to censor and ban its way into staying on top.

You didn't get a new deal, you will not be recovering like last time. We will be living in a true dual superpower world and America is making sure its relevance is declining.

Asia is at the forefront of genetic engineering, America banned it. The financial world is changing, America is trying to ban it, cultures are becoming more focused on national strength, America is trying to be altruistic towards its weakest members. The world is implementing more and more sustainable and nuclear energy, America is trying to get coal up and running.

The world is adopting corporate facist-like meritocracy while America is trying to be inclusive and tolerant. America is dying give it 20-40 years.

>>14957981
It might be a possibility to integrate RenVM into sentinel actually. The virtual machine works in a way where it can be integrated into other projects and not the other way around, this allows even easier integration and adoption of it.

>>14958203
i will look into this sentinel will need a dex to attach to sooner or later

>>14957939
This is an interesting new development. If they accept anonymous payments I could get behind this

>>14958292
you will be able to pay for sentinel in any crypto you want so BTC ETH XMR and sentinel chain will have its own mixer so you will be able to anonimize coins coming from other chains
(sentinel has a IBC interblockchain communication protocol thanks to being on tendermint), sooner or later they will have a fiat gateway too

>>14958169
Not all of us have rolled over yet.

So I shouldn't use nordvpn?

VPN is not optional

>>14958478
Time and time again it has been shown centralized VPNs are not to be trusted. There is no way to prove that your data is not being logged, sold or leaked. Open source, decentralized, and provable encryption is the next generation.

>>14958478
nordvpn probably logs everything you do and sells your data, you can download and use sentinel dVPN for free (https://sentinel.co/)and when main net launches it will be cheaper then any centralized vpn and also safer cause it will allow to hop between multiple nodes.
you can also sell your own bandwidth

>>14957063
CZ has that fear

>>14958518
>>14958529
Thanks. I was sketched out about having to pay to use one. Especially since I want to buy drugs online

>>14958478

>>14958553
Just a reminder anon

>>14957173

Submitting a fake name can fuck you. What if they change the terms so you need to submit more documents with your name on them to withdraw your funds?

>>14958559
REKT, Market need for Privacy is at ATH

>>14958193
Muh American Empire

>>14958518
XMR is not even fungible with out a proper obfuscation of ip.

>>14958553
Lol, are you usong a vpn now ?

>>14958591
this isnt /pol faggot

>>14958594
i heard rumors that a big privacy coin is integrating sentinel in its wallet to protect users from ip leak, i think this will be a big trend for privacy coin soon

>>14958568
True DEXs will gain increased adoption and usage. For every exchange that goes full KYC, 5 more will pop up without KYC requirements.

>>14958613
Really ? Mmm interesting

>>14957300

>>14958601
Catch up, Hosting a node is next level.

>>14958628
LOL

>>14958610
Yea I know, /pol/ is full of antifa and niggerdicks, this is a board for white nationalists to generate funds to oppose the Jewish global agenda, try Reddit if thats not you.

>>14957300
Thank you come again

>>14958649

>>14958649
Quit fucking gas lighting thread faggot

Anyway of all the vpn projects mentioned by OP sentinel is clearly the superior one, the others are all dead, im hyped for today testnet launch of sentinel it shows the team ics competent and committed to building a succesfull chain

>>14957300
kys jew enabler

>>14958675
https://medium.com/sentinel/release-of-sentinel-hub-v0-1-0-a7869086879a

yeah very nice stuff

also you guys can check sentinel chain from the explorer its up and running and going strong:

https://explorer.sentinel.co

>>14958672
Dont you have some infrastructure to be destroying you fucking nigger. Your opinion is worth less than nothing.

>>14958675
Just tell us how big your bag is and quit circle jerking us man. CZ is ready to begin a listing phase again soon.

>>14958704
your ID is brown, like the color of your skin, the only black guy here is you, you self hating troll

>>14958704
Become a garden of Sentinel, Host a node to bring fungible data to your cause. SENTINEL network is to decentralized to have bias. Now go to /pol

>>14958724
My bag is big enough to be very happy when it moons cz will make me rich

there's a lot of autism ITT

>>14958738
Nigger /pol/ hasnt existed on cuckchan for half a decade. KYS
>>14958737
Whiter and more /fit/ than you Chatzkel

>>14958738

>>14958752
The Autistic can't make money, the chads use them to propagate their memes

>>14958752
>LeL

that's legit the best ID i've ever gotten lads

>>14957037
>decentralized VPN
what a fucking meme what will be next decentralized mouse añd keyboard?

NSA agents trying to gas light thread with white cucksim rhetoric because SENT super decentralized eco system is something to fear. 22000 downloads

>>14958793
https://hackaday.com/2017/07/29/injecting-code-into-mouse-firmware-should-be-your-next-hack/

You should start making it anon.

>>14958793
I guess you dont understand the need for a open souce solution that provably doesnt log your data and allows you to sell your own bandwith on a global market platform

>>14958806
Nigger thats not how you use the term gaslight

>>14958852
Hitler was a jew you cuck

>>14958793
Was Uber and AirBnB a meme? The P2P sharing economy model has been disrupting traditional centralized models for years. You are retarded if you don't think this trend will continue.

>>14958837

>>14958767
zozzled

>>14958881
So youre retarded and a nigger. Maybe I should add boomer to that list, I bet youre a plan truster.

>>14957110
Anon shill me your best besides
Zec
andd
xmr

>>14958957
BCH

>>14958957
GRIN

>>14958973
GRIN inflation rate is hell. 25 years it will take to reach where BTC is now

>>14958591
You are beyond retarded. Go back to your conspiracy board were you decomplicate things to you can understand them.

>>14958982
>you decomplicate things to you can understand them.
Kill. Yourself. Kike.

>>14958332
Damn, if you aren't already on their payroll these guys need to get you a job. I'm pretty much sold

>>14958982
Helium and a gas mask, invest in it

>>14958998
ive accumulated a bag big enough of SENT during the last months so when it gets listed on binance i will be retired

>>14958979
check the usd chart of grin anon don't trade the btc pair its gonna pump sooner or later

Back on topic faggots:

https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29

>>14959065
People need to discuss the virtue of all of this. " An entire generation has grown up thinking they are always being watched " - peter Theil

>>14959000
You sure showed me. This is undeniable proof. An article with 4 shares?! Glad the truth is out. Surely I am now forever a believer in your cause.

>>14959171
I dont expect you to believe, I expect you to die.

>>14959152
Great quote anon. It is not a coincidence the rising trend of privacy coins, encryption and anonymity. The smart ones will see which traditional models will be disrupted and where the money will flow into next. The VPN market is in the multiple billions and growing. It is obvious a couple small cap dVPN projects will have incredible growth as trust is shifted to open source and provable encryption.

>>14959194
By your hands?

>>14959215
Its not a threat, have a nice day shitskin.

>>14959227
Probably whiter than you t b h

>>14959212
smart people will catch this trend before it goes mainstream in crypto and the the whole vpn ecosystem

Bitmex is now blocking VPN IP addresses, and getting better at it.

But yeah you're all elite hax0rs for paying $2 a month

>>14959236
Definitely not.

>>14959010
Sounds comfy Anon, best of luck

>>14959265
What happens when thousands of nodes are being hosted P2P on a decentralized network? How will they be able to block such wide IP ranges?

Do you trust "No logging" claims made by centralized VPNs?

>>14958760
>tfw donut waist

Zero coin

Is #1

>>14959853
wtf is zero coin

>>14959670
Fuck pedos

>>14959871
Agreed. But it illustrates that "no logging" claims by centralized VPNs are bullshit.

>>14958649
Based.

>>14958610
Every board on this website is /pol/ faggot. Heil Hitler or fuck off honestly.

>>14959867
You have no idea

Ita a zcash fork very few know about. Dyor.......your in for a shocker....remember this is a privacy coin hurr durr binance centralized

The team is quiet for a reason this project has years of work behind

ZER

Yw

Screenshot this

>>14959867
Zcash fork

This will make you rich beyond your wildest dreams

Quiet team

Zcash fork

Years of work

Get in lads

https://zero.directory/

>>14959926
what the fuck do I need a privacy coin for? All I need is BTC and Wasabi. What can zero coin do that BTC and Wasabi can't?

>>14957300
Make me, faggot.

>>14957496
That chart quite clearly shows a modest sized market growing linearly.

>>14960031
A market that has doubled in 5 years. What do you think will happen when the P2P model disrupts centralized VPN providers?

>>14959987
Why do mainstream privacy tokens hold their value ? Turn on the news

If you want specifics I cant hold your hand sorry just remember crypto is not going away and more events are uh coming ............the project is years ahead of others you just need a good eye

>>14960117
All you need is BTC and a Wasabi wallet to have complete privacy, fungibility, and anonymity. Why would I choose some shitcoin 'privacy' token when privacy is enable as a layer two solution on the most used and liquid coin on the planet?

>>14957037
tinc-vpn dot org

What can the US even do to exchanges in foreign countries? Why are they afraid?

>>14960357
The US will certainty try to regulate and impose their will on foreign exchanges. If they can succeed or not is a different story. But if you are based in the US and want to trade on a foreign exchange, you better have a provably secure VPN.

p2p vpn are about to moon. Are people really arguing this lolz

>>14960692
Even when you spell out the obvious, biz will still be retarded and argue over nonsense.

Dvpn market to 304billion

>>14957063
HEHE

>>14961741
If any one of these dVPNs manages to capture just 1% of the VPN market, you won't have to work a day in your life. I have holdings of every dVPN project I listed. Doesn't matter to me which one succeeds in capturing market share.

So do u guys not think MYST is a good DVPN?

Iv been using it and i have had no problems.

>>14962121
At this point, you can't go wrong with investing in any of the dVPN projects mentioned. These few million $ marketcaps are nothing compared to where the dVPN space will be in 2 years.

I have like 100k ITNS that I lost with their shitty wallet and if it moons I will kill myself

>>14958193

>implying the world is not America

>>14957037
In case anyone needs a quick and simple bitcoin QR code tool for sending and receiving check out:

https://www.bitcoinqrcodemaker.com

>>14962323
If I remember correctly, ITNS was some Russian dvpn, but looks like they stopped developing a long time ago, right?

>>14958193
>in 20-40 years
Well you can go ahead and make that bet

https://medium.com/datadriveninvestor/will-you-want-a-decentralized-vpn-c1b568d9d66

>>14962340
hahah biz can be so close minded. Look at the demand from China alone. Censorship and content blocking for half the websites out there.

>>14957037
OP check out what Russia is demanding from all centralized VPN providers. State sponsored censorship will only continue to grow. dVPNs are the only solution.

This thread is a goldmine in a sea of absolute shit holy fuck, I’m pulling the trigger on SENT. If I get scammed fuck it, then this is one of the most convincing high IQ shill discord tranny threads I’ve ever laid eyes on

Can someone please spoonfeed me the tokenomics?

I have a rough idea of how VPNs work. But what is the difference between these new Decentralized VPNs and the old centralized ones?

>>14962883
For which project? There were a few dVPN projects being discussed in the thread.

>>14962983
SENT, the obvious one. I’m about to go to bed, I’m loading up first thing tomorrow. I want some good shit to read up on again when I wake up so I’m confident, do your worst pls

>>14962983
sent plz good sir

>>14957150
good. I'm glad the global economics of crypto promotes vpns

>>14957300
based and redpilled

>>14962964
Decentralized VPN networks means many individual users are hosting their own servers and nodes instead of a centralized company. As OP mentioned; think of it like AirBnB, but for P2P servers and bandwidth. The projects doing it correctly are open sourced and provable that your traffic is encrypted and not logged. So far however, it seems that only Sentinel has managed to develop a working relay and hop network where your connection is routed through several nodes before going through an exit node.

There DVPN doesn't even work it's garbage software.

>>14963012
Retarded and uneducated. Why do Americans think the entire world revolves around them? Look what censorship and blocking is happening in China. Look what is happening in Russia. Not to mention the Middle East. Do we not deserve internet freedom and no censorship?

>>14963027
Which project are you talking about? There are multiple dVPNs being discussed here lol

If only this dVPN actually worked... Anyone else having issues or know of any actual working dVPN's? I'm about to just buy a centralized one fuck it!

2JuSQlWT
Talking about Sentinel!

>>14963069
>>14963027
which one are you guys talking about? sentinel? if unironically would help if it worked so I knew whether to throw some cash at it

Been trying it for several days now to get the VPN from Sentinel to work with no success. Same IP address. Not taking any upload or download.

>>14963076
Works just fine on my end. I have both Sentinel and Mysterium working without any issues.

Well I watched the simple install and how to set it up video. Seemed easy but not working on my end. Even after clicking disconnect it says disconnect fail, even though it wasn't working when it said it started a session lol.

>>14963126
I never had any issues with it, but if you are experiencing a bug you should report it to the team. I’m sure they can help you out with it. Stats show close to 500+ active sessions on Sentinel’s network right now, so it seems like it is working just fine for everybody else.

>>14957534
There's already one that exists, Block DX. Like most it has low liquidity for now but it's at least a fully decentralized system unlike the rest that use the tagline.

These true DEXs are the only ones that will survive long term, the rest will get crushed by regulation and subsequently pushed out of the market by big boy CEXs that do everything better. Unless you are beyond regulations, you won't compete with them.

Darkpools/markets will pick up on this soon enough.

>>14963176
+1 for true DEXs. I haven’t heard of Block DX before, but will check it out. You will still need to anonymize your connection and traffic to the DEX if you are located in an area that prohibits certain exchanges or to keep your trades truely anonymous.

>>14957356
>475
wtf that's like no one. are you guys shilling itt? now i'm not gonna download it.

Privatix (privatix.io) is another really good dvpn.

They are already an existing vpn provider with hundreds of thousands of users and they will transfer them all to their dvpn, easily surpassing all other dvpns in size by then.

Great working product too.

Or it's only working for those 500 people and there's thousands like me who haven't been able to get it to work :P

>>14963225
Using it right now, not ever having used it.

Can you tell me another utility crypto project used by that many people at the same time?

>>14963225
65,000 sessions this week alone. All on a testnet. That is “no one using it” in your book?

>>14963236
Maybe too many people want to use it right now for free?

Maybe also give mysterium or privatix a try.

Or come to sentinel telegram, you will surely get help from there

>>14963254
>>14963282
what telegram are you guys from? why shill it like this, just be honest.

>>14957037
imagine needing a blockchain for a VPN. Been using these for years with no problem. Now for world money, that's a use case I can get behind. Buy UND before people realize what it is.

>>14963289
Mysterium works great on my end, but I haven’t tried Privatix yet. How is it compared to Myst or Sent?

>>14963310
“World money” already exists. It’s called BTC.

>>14963324
SENT is the only one that actually has a protocol that check that the actual bandwidth being claimed by the node is full transferred so you can't get scammed.
also sentinel will have a multi hop relay net which will truly hide your ip address from the exit, coupled with direct tor exit nodes sentinel is the most secure one in the space

>>14963292
I personally am from the privatix, sentinel and mysterium telegram.

But all the information given in these posts is correct.

>>14963483
who are you a dev on?

>>14963324
It is what I use on Windows and I am perfectly happy with it.

They also have their mainnet release next week.

>>14963487
Not a dev at all, I just think that dvpns are a really good idea and invested 1/3 of all my crypto into each of them.

Idgaf which one of these three will succeed but one of them will i am surfe.
them with all my crypto.

>>14963520
what does crypto have to do with them? like what does cryptocurrency have to do with decentralized vpns, isn't that a blockchain thing what use is the money

>>14963537
decentralized vpns need a way for users to directly pay eachothers, and also to govern the p2p layer.
all nodes need to be searchable inside a single protocol, without blockchain tech dvpns wouldn't be possible

>>14963537
The idea is that everone can offer a vpn Server to anyone willing to use and pay for it.

The payment and verification of ressource usage is done by cryptocurrency.

PayPal for example would not work because trust is needded and there can be chargebacks

>>14963562
>>14963570
Yeap

Personally im really bullish on tendermint projects cause they allow interoperability between blockchains, so i sentinel is the obvious choice for me

>>14957037
Hopefully this asshole lists ETHplode on Binance DEX.

>>14957037
I like nordvpn, but I'm just getting more and more paranoid about it. When so many are schilling it gotta be a trap.

>>14963616
nordvpn is just a big usa government honeypot, if you don't wanna use a dVPN at least use a private vps

>>14963654
Most mainstream vpns are owned by the Chinese anyway

>>14963790
yeap
https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252466203/Top-VPNs-secretly-owned-by-Chinese-firms
https://www.csoonline.com/article/3335480/china-owns-half-of-all-vpn-services.html
https://www.ft.com/content/e5567d8a-ee65-11e8-89c8-d36339d835c0
https://vpnpro.com/blog/hidden-vpn-owners-unveiled-97-vpns-23-companies/

imagine not going all in Trustverse and riding Asia's new whale coat-tails before the big announcements from China come. Instead, you worry about CZ.

Honestly it always surprises me how many people in crypto are unaware of the dvpn niche, its one of the most promising niches in this industry, i think everybody should own some dvpn projects in their portfolio

>>14957300
Based

>>14957300
Cringe.
Why europoors constantly feel the need to lick the boot?
So willing to bend over and comply to the state?
Why is that? Why are Europeans so easy to submit?

Is there any other option for dvpn than SENT? Saw that the test net is live but feel more secure waiting until mainnet launch

>>14964218
the product is fully working (and has been fully working from april of last year), main net will just add full monetization, you can try it out for free right now

CZ knows DUSK is the answer

>>14964602
CZ knows about SENT

Gonna get myself a nice bag of dvpn coins

>>14962360
They rebranded to Lethean

>>14965167
Project is almost dead, they had payed shills on biz for a while but they stopped paying them, so now you see it mentioned very little

>>14965269
Good, this is good. If it ended up being a success I would have trouble living.

>>14965295
What you mean ?

>>14965305
Because I had a whole bunch that I lost

>>14965309
Its crypto sooner or later everybody must go through the experience of loosing or forgetting some shitcoin, i lost my binance 2fa i was lucky i had only 600 dollars worth of shitcoin on it, never store funds on exchanges

>>14965348
>>14965309
sorry to hear that dudes, loosing money is always not a nice experience

>>14965167
They shilled on twitter too, you coud see how "organic" their followers are by checking individual accounts of people that retweet and like shit, sentinel on the other hand has very organic and passionate community that does shilling on their own behalf, validator seats a re fully filled, 50+ exit nodes being run by community memebers and its the only project in the world that managed to raise 2m anonymously and not exit scam

>>14964189
Europeans are the descendents of pussies who have been pillaged for thousands of years and when shown the opportunity to become free and independent (aka badass) and ride across the sea to the USA they stayed in home like a couple of pussy cuks.

tldr; Europeans are descendents of cuks

>>14965852
they managed to make those 2m last all through the bear market , while projects with bigger teasuries got bankrupt, this teaches us that more money doesn't guarantee success, like sirin labs failed attempt as a phone shows

>>14965852
Yeah Sent team is based

>>14965883
Lol

I just read through the whole thread sent people seem to be pretty convinced about their project

With all these NOIA shills I had to dive into it.... Are they creating a VPN through the distribution of ISPs data? Thats my biggest question.

>>14966673
i think its not a VPN project they simply make content delivery faster for website video streams etc...

i just tought about it SENTinel will have around 7-10% in staking interest from the DPOS model, so it means that if you stake around 1k sents and you use the interest to use the vpn you will have free vpn for life without spending any addtional amount (not accounting for price appreciation) and if you need the 1k you can unstake any time, thus you don't loose any money

>>14957300
Lmfao why are you on this board even?

>>14957037

>>14957300
>Submit the real documents
why would you willingly give your personal information to cucks that get hacked every other day?

>Can't own unregistered securities?
>Don't buy them

I prefer to keep making money

>Exchange doesn't allow US customers?
lost opportunity to make money

What a nigger, might as well just go wage cucking all day long

So if I understood this thread correctly:

Sentinel seems to be the best project of those discussed here.
Mysterium is on a strong second place.

Lethean is a russian shitcoin/scam

>>14967275
That and dvpns are potentially huge, eliminates the centralization issues of anonymity with normal vpns. On top of that, Sentinel seems to be able to obfuscate the IP you’re using to exit nodes, eliminating the biggest pitfalls of Tor, and you can exit the dvpn through Tor. I’m fucking sold as fuck

>>14967275
no what's really happening is some pajeets are spam shilling sentinel while everyone else talks about vpns that are actually good.

>>14967275
spot on, sentinel is the strongest by far and lthn shouldnt even be mentioned imo, mysterium is oke

>>14967323
such as ?

>>14957300
muh freedoms

>>14967275
Yeah Sentinel seems to be the best, i really like their relay net, no other dvpn has anything similiar

>>14967323
Decentrlized vpns are much better then centralized ones that can log data

>>14967416
not even mainstream ones have it, cause why would they? making it harder for themselves to track its users

>>14967697
yeah centralized vpns thrive on selling data

Could one of you shills point us to a FAQ for someone who's never used a dVPN before?

Anything would help.

>>14968197
its as simple as downloading it from https://sentinel.co/

and running the up, the interface is very userfriendly you can't go wrong

sentinel just passed 1,000,000 sessions on the dvpn dapp

They're working on adding a VPN onto the NKN network.

>>14968583
When it will be released ?

>>14957051
That's why you use Skycoin/Skywire. Effectively close to being an anon VPN without KYC.

Is there a guide out there to set up a node for SENT? I'm new to the project and can't find any info out there. Can we start selling bandwidth now for tokens?

>>14968817

Community manager Sudo has created a toxic community of moonboys (their telegram is just 'when moon, when lambo' repeatedly
Team is mostly anonymous, nobody knows who’s really in control of anything
Telegram room is dead - mostly just bots and schoolkids bickering about the price
Insider trading among the early investors seems to be very common according to reports
Partnership with self-confessed drug taker John McAfee (bad for any crypto project)
McAfee's "tattoo" may be fake and was most likely paid for
SkyCoin lied about a partnership with Binance (Binance has never confirmed it)
Sold "miners" to idiots for $20,000 to mine a pre-mined token WTF?
Claim to have 9500 nodes deployed but each Sky Miner has 1-8 nodes so it's really only 1000-2000 actual nodes
Desktop wallet doesn't work, takes forever to sync and then the SkyCoin tokens go missing
iOS wallet has been rejected by Apple in China due to potentially breaking the law
Their much publicized antennas for the Sky Miners still doesn't exist (all they produced are CGI renders)
They released a hardware wallet but it hasn't been independently tested - beware, it could steal your coins
Coin Hours tokens are literally worthless
SkyCoin token has no function on the network, not used for anything
The SkyCoin "blockchain" is just a database running on a server (no consensus algorithm)
The only games or apps running on Skycoin CX are literal rubbish like pacman and flappybirds
Very little real GitHub activity (mostly just updating PDFs) which suggests team has stopped developing
SkyCoin CEO already faked his own kidnapping as an excuse to dump millions of coins
All the ICOs/projects launched on SkyCoin Fiber have already exit scammed

>>14968855
https://github.com/sentinel-official/sentinel/tree/master/vpn-node-docker?source=post_page---------------------------

here is the guide, full monetization will be enabled after main net is launched, if you any technical problems while deploying the node sentinel has a support channel for node hosters, in the future releases it will become ven easier to host a node, if you have any questions pls ask

>>14968943
Tell you discord leader congratulations. This is some fucking 2020 shilling right here. I've never seen such advance techniques and I'm now unironically looking into your pajeet scam and will be buying tokens.

>>14968984
im just a SENT bagholder, prviding good info

Skycoin is also setting up a pilot meshnet in NYC.

>>14968817
Yeah. No.
Skycoin will never release their consensus and synth just keep lying, so no, no one will ever use the shitwire socks5 proxy

>>14969034
Sure they will, but consensus doesn't have anything to do with Skywire.

Skycoin consensus is on the roadmap now though, so I'm sure you'll be satisfied with that.

>>14969066
>Skywire has nothing to do with consensus
>Coin hours has nothing to do with consensus
>Skycoin has nothing to do with consensus
>We dont need any consensus
>Masternode scam gang

>>14969117
lol, wait, you don't think Skycoin and Skywire are the same thing, do you? You realize one is a cryptocurrency and the other is a networking protocol, right?

Surely you understand what you're trying to critique, right?

>>14967334
>>14967275
Privatix is also a strong contender and they will release mainnet next week.

They are an existing vpn company so they should have no problem bringing in customers.

Their new testnet version works well, hat lest as good as sentinel or mysterium

can i buy sent via ethereum smartcontract or do i have to sign up for some shit exchange

>>14969199
>My glorified socks5 proxy is way better than any other meshnet
Yeah, no Skywire is just a shitty proxy. If the payment by coin hours isn't there there is no incentive to join the skywire network, if there is coin hours, then you Skycoin and a consensus.

But for all means, run your glorified socks5 proxy and think people are going to join if there is no incentive, good luck cuck

I found sentinel mentioned in cointelegraph Binance article!!!

I think this shit will be soon listed in Binance and will pump fucking hard. I don't know you but I'm going to buy a nice bag right now it's obvious CZ and Binance have bags too and this sent shit will pump x100 at least, maybe more even.. 2million cap now lol this coin is going to get a megapump from Binance Jesus Christ

>>14969306
right now you can use the dvpn app for free no need to own tokens, when main net will be launched monetization will be enabled.
when mainnet and IBC are laucnhed you will be able to pay for sent dvpn with BTC ETH XMR (and any connected chain)you won't need to own the token
you can buy SENT from IDEX and hitbtc

>>14957037
when someone releases a service without an attached shitcoin, maybe

>>14969389
thats the strenght of sentinel you don't need a to use sent token to use the service you can pay with BTC ETH XMR sentinel doesn't force any tokens on end users cause it would only add friction

Sent shills have upped their game in the last threads, if you continue like this I will have to buy some

>>14969406
So what is the token for? Surely not for priority for nodes..

>>14969431
Dont encourage them or they Will become more toxic and persistant then linkies

>>14969440
the token will be used to secure sentinel DPOS tendermint blockchain, and can also be used to pay for services but it won't be mandatory.
tendermint allows to scale orizontally through many blockchians if needed thus keeping the validtor set and overral service decentralized

Guys take a look at the top token holders for SENT. Not a single top wallet whale is selling any tokens, only accumulating more.

Look at this wallet: 0xda5c30c5d90df2b578ad1a0a9d26904b980c05d0

It has been buying up non stop. Someone knows something is coming.

>>14969345
It really is better since it's working on getting rid of the need for ISPs.

Coin Hours is the primary option, but the system is not dependent on them. Using Coin Hours use consensus when they're on-chain but not when they're being used for Skywire settlement. They're intended to be moderately disposable since they're generated for free.

They'll join, cheaper, better, more secure internet is highly desirable.

>>14969523

>>14969488
tx fee is the only use case?

>>14968710
It's a community idea that's only just been picked up. Still in tech stage of working out how it'd happen. Your guess is as good as mine how long that takes and how long to develop.

>>14969543
I'd rather use Althea or something similar which at least has a consensus. I dont care if you say "they are free", it is money and money is not something people just throw away because they got it for free. And centralized internet credits aka coin hours without consensus is not something that anyone in tech wants, then we could just use Libra or whatever.

>>14969593
SCH originate on chain and can be taken off. There's no sense in running double consensus if you're putting SCH in to a CX betting application with its own blockchain and consensus.

Althea is okay, but they think too small and don't understand economics well enough.

>>14969556
staking tx fee and monetization for various other service that sentinel will offer like federated ancrypted chat and interblockchain mixer and private networks

>>14957078

Look at IDEX. Also, look at EtherDelta most importantly. They wouldn’t comply and now they are literally dead.

>>14969682
not good enough senpai

>>14969716
this kills the sent shill

>>14969716
LINK is unironically a jason parser. As long as the token can somehow interface with the way the software works, I’m game. 99% of shitcoins are token not needed

>>14969716
look at cosmos its purely a staking token like SENT without additional services on top and look at the marketcap and price EOS the same and any other POS DPOS blockchain
sentinel will be the privacy coin of tendermint/cosmos ecosystem.
https://forum.cosmos.network/t/list-of-projects-in-cosmos-tendermint-ecosystem/243/11

more then 90 projects from ethereum are switching to tendermint, tendermint chains will be the next big trend in blockchain space.
sentinel will be one of the only 3 hubs in tendermint ecosystem servicing 90+ zones

>>14969756
so the easiest TLDR is sentinel will be the first DPOS privacy coin which will also offer services on top

>>14969756
Ok, don't really feel like elaborating. Good luck

>>14969673
>on chain
So they need consensus then, which was supposedly done in 2017 and was going to launch in a few months, but it never happened, just like everything else synth talks about.

>>14969797
don't miss the sent rocket anon

>>14969804
Sure, the initial planning and testing was done. Other things were added to the scope of the project though.

Skycoin currently has a masternode consensus, and their Obelisk consensus will release early next year.

>>14969855
>We created a bunch of apps, bur we delayed them because of other things
>We created the consensus but it was delayed because we wanted to add things
>We created CX, but it was deleayed because we wanted to implement other things
>We started creating kitty cash, but we never finished anything
>We just delay everything forever because we are actually not building anything

We dont build, we just scam, the team

>>14969911
Good things take time. You're welcome to cry as you wait.

>>14957078
they already did

>>14964016
shill me the list of all dvpn projects and ill chuck 1k in each

>>14969996
Skycoin, maybe Elastos.

>>14969996
sentinel
mysterium
lethan
privatix

>>14969911
you've put a lot of effort into your campaign, anon. i hope you have a 1k suicide stack for your own sake

>>14969996
Skycoin is a scam don't listen to him
The other projects are legit

>>14969996
Out of the 4 mentioned by the post below you sentinel is the one with more users on thir actual dvpn dapp

>>14969951
>Good things take time
>Copy socks5 rename it to skywire
>Copy Cryptokitties rename it to Kitty Cash
>Copy Neo Gas, rename it to Coin Hours
>Buy raspberry pies, install socks5 and name it Skyminer
>"Create new consensus algorithm" Never release it
>Claim you have apps with installed user base larger than netflix in 2017, never show anything
>Claim you have a bunch of apps ready to release in a few months (in 2017) never release 1 app
>Do interviews, but only with tech illiterate boomers

>>14969996
My dVPN portfolio is 60% SENT, 20% Myst, 20% Privatix. I may take Privatix out and add 10% each to Sent and Myst since they seem to have the better tech.

>>14970103
Don't answer to the skycoin shill everybody knows skycoin is a scam

>>14970103
You got that skycoin faggot good. Thanks anon

>>14970113
Wow your have a dvpn portfolio? Well it's a rising market so why not.

>>14970113
Never heard of myst but sent seems solid. Know nothing about the team though

>>14970115
How can the best coin also be a scam coin? That makes no sense.

Does anyone know for how long the sent team can keep going? Their funds must run out at some point since they have been at it for quite some time.

>>14957300
Stay mad poorfag

>>14970191
sentinel team has collateral income streams from advising other projects building on tendermint also they have been delegated 800k atoms on their cosmos validator.
i think they are quite profitable right now and i wouldn't be surprised if they up tehir marketing funds on top of their development funds.
also they will be supported by sentinel DAO tresury on main net, so there is no worry

>>14970103
>Copy socks5 rename it to skywire
Skywire mainnet isn't socks5, testnet utilized socks5 as part of the system.

>Copy Cryptokitties rename it to Kitty Cash
If you knew anything about anything you'd know Satoshi outlined cat games. Of course Kitty Cash is a clone of that and any other cat game concept. Except it actually has the foundational beginnings to work.

>Copy Neo Gas, rename it to Coin Hours
Coin Hours aren't the same as Neo Gas and were created before Neo.

>Buy raspberry pies, install socks5 and name it Skyminer
Orange Pi Primes, those are the official miners that run the software for Skywire.

>"Create new consensus algorithm" Never release it
Not until it's the right time.

>Claim you have apps with installed user base larger than netflix in 2017, never show anything
Correct, why would they break an NDA?

>Claim you have a bunch of apps ready to release in a few months (in 2017) never release 1 app
Scope creep.

>Do interviews, but only with tech illiterate boomers
CryptoRich is pretty cringey. Some of the others are okay.

>>14970252
That's reassuring, still surprised that's its so unknown but I guess they have been working on tech, no not tech because that's a BS thing projects say, they have been working and testing out their actual product that's being used and its not anon instant transaction bs

>>14970293
right now knowledge about sentinel is spreading
still slowly but it will get better with time.
for sure having some of the biggest cosmos validators become also sentinel validators is helping, this is a major endorsement from cosmos ecosystem, and from cosmos team itself with the big delegation

>>14970329
Must mean something that they support it. I mean this ecosystem can be a gamechanger and a product like sent could be the start of it.

>>14970384
i think tendermint project will have the same explosion in value that erc 20s had during 2017, the game is moving away from etherum into cosmos related projects, cause cosmos allows interoperability between chains

So SENT has 54 nodes on their test net expressvpn has 160 vpn server locations spread over 94 countries and 3000 vpn "nodes". Still have a way to go but it really seems possible to catch up

>>14970272
Skywire mainnet still uses socks5, just because you renamed it doesn't mean it isnt socks5
Kitty Cash is a clone which they couldnt even finish
Coin hours is a copy of Neo Gas, it was invented after Neo Gas. Prove me wrong, you cant because there is no documentation of Coin Hours before Neo Gas
It doesnt matter which "pi's" you use, you still just bought cheap SBC, installed socks5 and named it Skyminer "official miner" my ass
"Not until its the right time"
It was the right time several years ago, you have only missed the boat by not releasing it and proving you are a big deal, others are sailing way past you in market influence and everything and you will NEVER catch up, its not about being the best, its about being the loudest and you missed the opportunity
"NDA" for 3 years, NDA for a app which you have no platform for, NDA when you dont have anything to provide the app or even being able to host it
Suddenly doing robots, research into mobile/laptops as synth talks about is scope creep, delivering a few apps to show your project is legit and works is not
Cryptorich is equally retarded to the other tech boomers, tech illiterate fucks that dont know anything about technology, how come synth never speaks with anyone else in the crypto world? Why hasnt he spoken to Vitalik or been at a conference with someone like Vitalik or similar?

>>14970479
keep in mind that this is only sent testnet, when full monetization will be enabled , node counts will grow much more as people get payed and re invest profits into more nodes

>>14970480
It's part of the stack, sure. The biggest part is the key system, other encryptions, and the discovery server.

KC is still in development.

It was mentioned in the original 2013 bitcoin talk post, goodness you are misguided: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=380441.0

>>14970513
It basically IS the stack
No it wasnt, it was added later on. If you go through the threads no one has ever mentioned coin hours until later.
Kitty cash hasnt been updated in over 1 year.

>>14970427
so is this an erc20 or is it on the cosmo chain? what's the difference between tsent and sent? I'm assuming you cant store erc20 sent on the actual sentinel network application since its all tsent? what is tendermint? and according to the litepaper, the coin mixer will only be for erc20? trying to figure out some of the tokenomics and how this shit works, I want to go balls deep to figure all of this out but I have so many fucking questions. I took a break from early 2018 to just recently and havent heard of cosmo. interoperability and crypto werent even in the same sentence a year and a half or 2 years ago unless I wasnt paying attention closely

>>14970480
Any device works, as long as it can run the software. SBCs happen to be the most cost effective.

The official Skyminer is a demonstration of the expected setup.

Developing other systems on the platform took precedence. In this situation it actually is about being the best, moonboi.

They're not doing robots, the community is. The competition is to be hosted over Skywire.

Vitalik is a tool.

>>14970505
Yes I agree, when I researched expressvpn it made me even more excited about SENT
Btw dies sent have a killswitch or whatever its called so if the node goes offline or you are disconnected, you aren't suddenly visible?

>>14970538
also we're going to need a new thread soon, this one is about to be capped out and this shit is by far one of the more interesting reads/usecases for crypto/privacy.

>>14970532
Nah, it's right there in the bitcoin talk announcement. Read.

The public repos haven't. It's being built in CX.

>>14970538
SENT will be an erc 20 token till main net swap
main net swap will consist in sentinel launching its own DPOS blockchain built on tendermint consensus which allows faster transactions speed interoperability between chains and instant finality for transaction without needing to wait for confirmations.
the litepaper is outdated check out the medium posts and the announcement channel on telegram for the more up to date news.
the mixer will allow to mix any coin from any chain that is connected to sentinel chain (so after IBC is launched it should be BTC ETH etc...)
if you have any more questions or i wasn't clear please ask

>>14970550
>Any device works
No shit, its software you dumb fuck, im not tech illiterate like you
>They are not doing robots
Meanwhile synth is posting "robot" pictures and talks about the SECRET ROBOT PROJECTS
>The community is doing robots
The community isnt doing anything because its filled with boomers who doesnt know shit
>Developing other systems blabla
There has still been 0 development, there is nothing to show and never has been
>Vitalik is a tool
He has done more for the crypto space than Skyscam has, he has way more legitimacy and I'd like to see Synth talk to someone who at least knows something about crypto instead of his boomer friends on youtube

>>14970569
>>14970657
part 2 here

>>14970581
EDITED INTO THE ANNOUNCEMENT LATER ON YES

>our very important and technical cat game is in private repos, but its being developed, trust us, just like our consensus which we said was done in 2017, trust us

>>14970559
yeah, if the node dies you will get rekt , but sentinel will have also a private nets solution where you pay for a server that only you can use and it will have bigger guarantees cause it will be hosted by corporations and people that have the means.
lets continue the discussion in the next thread
>>14970657

>>14970655
IDK man, you're the one whinging about raspberry pis like it matters.
Posting community member photos. This is hilarious that you pay so little attention but assume you know what's going on.

https://coincodecap.com/project/SKY

I'd argue that Eth has stunted crypto adoption by at least ten years.

>>14965883
Americants are all the shitty Europeans that couldn't make it back in good ol' Europe.