/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>14913724
we need aggressive and populistic marketing that hits mainstream
news outlets.

i have hopes in Craig and Calvin for that. Major news coverage &marketing boost the price way better than tech innovation.

>>14913724
>Its way more impressive than anything being done on ETH or EOS
No, not in the least.

>>14913724
>>14913753
Too bad calvin and craig are retards that have ruined anything that could have been done with bsv. Complete fucking idiots

>>14913724
>If you want to make apps on BSV, all you need is basic knowledge of javascript and html.
i do want to make apps on bsv, but js and html only give you a hackable static site. Neon planaria looks really promising but im not sure i can get it running with custom code. have you seen a neon planaria example that runs code besides something made by _unwriter?

creg is a convict

>>14913724
how do they plan to afford their datacenters when the blockchain starts growing at like 1TB a day?

>>14913913
Who? The miners? Do u realize how much miners earn?

>>14913913
>growing at like 1TB a day
they adding weather videos now ?

>>14913724
I know Craig Wright and I've seen his penis. When I looked at his desk, I saw a sheet of paper with the name "satoshi nakamoto" on it. This was in 2000, and I was perplexed, but years later it all makes sense.

>>14913913
>>14913924

Pruning

>>14913753

Agreed, it will be interesting to see where they go with this. I heard rumors that a documentary is being done about Craig

>>14913901

Have you seen dir.sv?

>>14913766

ETH is all ponzi schemes and can't scale. Solidity is bullshit. Prove me wrong.

>>14913724
>>14913753
>>14914002
You have irreparably damaged your reputation by having a pedophile and a drunk conman as the face of your brand. You are a bunch of clowns, and nobody takes you seriously.
>>14914002
>calling ETH a ponzi
oh the irony

>>14914002
>dir.sv
looks promising but i can find the code

>>14914002
>Prove me wrong.

"Bitcoin script does not support loops. Loops are simulated by unrolling. I.e. the loop in the example repeats the statements in the block 5 times. Loops are therefore very expensive in bitcoin script."
http://www.bowmain.co.uk/BSV/Hello_language.html

Done.

>>14914092
>he thinks BSVdrones understand the technical underpinnings of programming blockchains
They literally just repeat buzzwords

>>14913766
Okay..

Examples?

>>14914172
>>14914092
God you fucks are so stupid

I would post what I think about bsv, as I have some new ideas for it, but one of the arguments I made ended up in thecaseforbsv, so I'm not sharing anything with you assholes anymore.

This shit is gonna be amazing even if you don't shill it, so stop stealing 4chan arguments and sharing them with normies.

>>14914200
>one of the arguments I made ended up in thecaseforbsv,
And it was a pretty fucking odd one. There's no fucking way it wasn't from biz, even if the author claims he doesn't use 4chan.

>>14914179
translation: I got nothing

It is

> Why I think there's a chance csw's threat of exposing a lightning network flaw has a non-zero chance of happening
And one I've never discussed nor seen discussed
> An advantage bsv could have over btc and eth etc if things go where I think they might be...

You guys missed out. I hope stealing shit from biz and using it to take away my time to accumulate was worth it you fuck

>>14913724
Imagine actually paying for something whales got for free instead of immediately dumping on them for more OTO.

Unironic BSV drones are embarrassing. Nobody wants to use your KYC shitcoin. I hope you're at least getting paid to shill this garbage

>>14913724
Biz doesnt deserve good info on bsv. They didnt get bitcoin in 2012 and they wont get BitCoin in 2019.

alright guys, be honest with me. do any of you REALLY own this or are you just trying to fuck newfags?

I own:
25bsv
16eth
1,5 btc
Few shitcoin

If CSW is SN easiest 100x in crypto world. For me risk/reward ratio is ok.

withdrawls from binance of BSV cease tomorrow morning at 10am UTC. where should i send my BSV? its not much, handcash app? any other recommendations?

>>14914705
>https://www.binance.com/en/support/articles/360026666152
>Withdrawals of these coins and tokens from Binance will continue to be supported until 2019/07/22 at 10:00 AM UTC.

>>14914208
Everipedia
Eosfinex
Several games including sim city and minecraft clones
Voice

>>14913724
WOw, truly impresive. Imagine all the african refugees who can program BSV apps using their Javascript skills

>>14913724
I would invest in BSV but the only thing holding me back is the fraud behind it

>>14913724
Faketoshi scam faggot coin I can’t belive people fall for this scam as bad as the bitconnect

If its so big fraud why CSW isnt in jail and will never go there?

>>14913910
All Australians are, newfag.

>>14913913
>1TB of data a day

Miners would literally be jizzing themselves.

>>14914053
ETH is a shitcoin that gets raped by cats.

>>14914705
I like electrumSV for PC, but Handcash is good for mobile.

>>14914692
Exactly

>>14913924
The miners don't need to download the blockchain brainlet , only full nodes do and they do it for free , you can bet no one will run TB size nodes for free.
You will end up like with 5 full nodes once you reach petabyte size blocks.

>>14913941
Craig wants 2gb blocks that is 288GB per day(more than the entire btc core did in 10 years).
That is 2TB per week and 730TB per year , and full nodes run for free.

SV is a scamcoin , BCH is reasonable tough at 32mb blocks full they would be using 1.5tb per year.
Pretty reasonable for today levels.

>>14915424
What will be the storage cost on that you think?

>>14913724
LOL nice references bro, nice use cases.
jk pls make this stop, stop trying to dump your bags. Accept your failure, sell and move on moron.

>>14913724
>More progress has been made on BSV in the past 3 months than the past 10 years in crypto.

show it
https://github.com/bitcoin-sv/bitcoin-sv
point to where you see this progress

why do the bsv shill npcs activate / deactivate seemingly at random? I can't seem to find a discernable pattern. what's the pay schedule for you pajeets?

>>14915702
I think they're needing all able bodies trying to defend craig on twitter.

>>14915602
Considering that a 12tb hard disk cost 350 usd you would need 61 of those PER YEAR.

That's 21K usd per year spent on buying hard disk , then you would need incredibly fast internet to download a 2gb block every 10 minutes.
All of this FOR FREE , because full nodes literally do it for free like jannies , and miners don't need to download the blockchain , the pools they work do but there will be what? 10 pools?

BSV would centralize the entire network in the hands of maybe 30 servers.

BTC has 10k of those to give you an idea of what we are talking and anyone with a hard disk of more than 300gb can run a node.

>>14915702
They literally must work in some office in india and when they go to eat or sleep they all disappear , it's just too sinchronized.

>>14915754
So squire/nchain truly do need BTC to thrive just to prop up their own little system?

We have an onchain GitHub now. But DYOR the link yourself you fags

>>14915654
And here, ladies and gentlemen, you can see a retard

>>14915877
>>14915884
So you're back from lunch now?

>>14915754
>That's 21K usd per year spent on buying hard disk , then you would need incredibly fast internet to download a 2gb block every 10 minutes.
oh no no now how is a business operation ever gonna put up that much money. I mean 21k a year and a dedicated internet line, thats just impossible! I mean google handled 20 petabyte a day 10 years ago but thats just a fluke I guess. lets just give up on BSV.

>>14915765
sounds plausible

>>14915900
What'd you have for lunch today? Was it curry?

>>14915927
I know rightt all these indians who believve a business operation would invest money to make profits. hahah thats just laughable anon. lets all go back to BTC the true store of value. have you heard they want to lower the blocksize even more? this is a great move because everybody knows less useability = more money.

>>14915937
So, how was the curry? Did you wash your hands after shitting in the street?

20k$ for miners yearly is too much??? And only if all blocks are full. Buhahahaha

>>14915947
right hand for food left hand for poo. washing is optional don't you know?

>>14915654

What part of "set in stone" don't you get?

>>14915975
kind of hard to tell if it's one of the other though if you ask me

>>14915900
It's not a business pajeet , pools are the only business that would need to do that.

And according to the live data

https://sv.coin.dance/blocks

There are 8 pools right now , so those 8 pools are the only ones that would run the blockchain.

That means 8 fucking computers storing the bsv blockchain vs the 10k storing the btc.

>oh no no now how is a business operation ever gonna put up that much money.

Those 8 pools are the only ones that would have an incentive in spending 2000 usd per month buying hard disks to store the bsv blockhain.

>>14915970
>20k$ for miners yearly is too much???

Miners don't download the blockchain for fucks sake only nodes and they do it for free.

Miners don't use the blockchain , only the pools they are working , so in the case of bsv that would mean only 8 computers storing the blockchain.

>And only if all blocks are full. Buhahahaha

True but they are already puting crap on the blockchain and they are above bch in blockhain size even when bsv has 10x times volume.

>>14916000
>hurr durr its smol right now so will always be smol
lol you are so retarded dude. theres tons of hashpower that would switch over in a heartbeat as soon as it makes more sense to them economically. what you think miners give a shit which chain they mine? all they want is profits. and your "nodes" dont even verify transactions, literally hobby tier faggotry to make some soibois feel important. the mining on BTC is handled by big operations as well. all you corecucks got is bullshit, lies and more bullshit. your shitcoin is on borrowed time and you know it. meanwhile I already made a ton with BSV this year and sitting comfy waiting for the next big runup and real adoption.

>>14916013

Miners are nodes. Everyone else is a spectator. Hash is everything.

>>14916000
>mining is not a business
right I forgot corecucks live in fantasyland where miners provide a source from the goodness of their heart lmao

next year is gonna be epic bsv bros
we actually will see all these retards posting shit loose the majority of their portfolio
eoy it might dawn on them that it's over but delusion will make them hodl

>>14916034
im looking forward to the day all these spastics kill themselves. Its not enough that I get rich I want them all to be poor and broken for all the retarded shit they spout here all day.

>>14916043
it'll happen and it's gonna be biblical

>>14916027
>mining is not a business

Miners DON'T store the blockchain you fucking retard the pool they are working store it and in the case of bsv it's 8 pools so 8 servers.

>lol you are so retarded dude. theres tons of hashpower that would switch over in a heartbeat as soon as it makes more sense to them economically. what you think miners give a shit which chain they mine?

In whatever they make more money.

>your "nodes" dont even verify transactions, literally hobby tier faggotry to make some soibois feel important.

Those nodes are what keep the network descentralized and prevent btc from being shut down.
If governments cracked the numbers of nodes would increase as anyone that has btc and 300gb of space would run a node.
On bsv no one would be able to react once it's shut down and it has petabyte size blockchain.

Even right now with the 200gb size blockchain bsv has 400 nodes compared to btc 10k.
As the size of the network reaches tb levels it would collapse to 100 and after you pass 50tb only those 8 pools would run a node.

Then you would end with the owners of those pools on trial.

>I already made a ton with BSV this year and sitting comfy waiting for the next big runup and real adoption.

Kek , BCH is the only crypto other than BTC gaining real adoption BSV it's literally fake transactions.

Poor miners 20k$ yearly. How we can help them??

>>14916106
Again no answer hahahaha

Nodes would need 20k yearly and they do it for free.
Miners would mine bsv and take it to the descentralized network , and that may be btc , ltc , bch , xmr but not bsv with 8 fucking nodes.

>>14916043
is spastic supposed to be an offensive word in oz? or are you a bong? do pajeets use that word?

>>14916136
nevermind I found my answer. well done giving yourself away lmao

>>14915900
the technical challenges for bsv (regarding storage, bandwith etc) are actually not that high. they "look high" from a consumer perspective but from an enterprise one its just a piss in the wind. BSV's approach is very smart to say the least. You gotta have guts to pull this off as these large ass blocks appear counter-intuitive at first.

>>14915937
from a finance pov this is true. the harder for an asset it is to transfer it around (= slow) the higher its worth gets as there's not that much around. if an asset can be transfered fast between multiple parties this effect is gone. anyway its like only single digit % influence on the overall price but this has an influence. i've seen someone talking about that a few years ago. so btc being a slow piece of shit is good for the price in a certain way (but it has serious downsides somewhere else).

>>14916244
The velocity of money.

>>14915424
>>14915754
>He thinks blocks are constantly full

>>14915976
You know where the term "set in stone" comes from?

>>14914976
Cut the racism, bud.

>>14916244
>the harder for an asset it is to transfer it around (= slow) the higher its worth gets as there's not that much around.

>>14916351
yeah well its actually true if you look it up

>>14916313
No they are not but 2gb blocksize makes it too easy to spam the network with 1sat transactions and make the blocks full.
Basically they could spam the transactions non stop until they reach to 90% of blocksize for nearly nothing.

The fee market is basically an anti spam meassure , bch does it smarter than bsv by not being as retarded with the blocksize , and spam attacks would become costly real fast there.

In btc it's basically insane costlier to spam due to the small blocks as soon as you spam tx the spammer would need to start to increase fees non stop until it becomes too costly.
With massive gb size blocks it would be easy as fuck for anyone attacking that way.

>>14916388
It doesn't matter. bsv is dead already. They are just following their "roadmap" which they thought would have brought in more buyers. Now they're just following it to destruction because they can't admit to being frauds. They'll be relegated to just being miners soon enough.

>>14916244
by that logic we should all trade in huge rocks as they are really hard to move around. scarcity only makes an asset valuable if there is actual demand for it. and demand comes from useability which, in BTCs case, is going down.

rofl at bsv

>>14916388
>2gb blocksize makes it too easy to spam the network with 1sat transactions and make the blocks full

There is no such thing as spam, every transaction is paid, miners love "spam"

>>14916378
Anon it's true for a very small amount of examples, almost entirely natural resources or luxury items, the majority of cases there's a low supply because there's no demand.

>>14916388
>>14916510
With 2gb blocks that would be 2000000000 bytes, when paying 1 satoshi per byte that's 2000000000 satoshis or 20 BSV, 20x$170=$3400

It would cost you $3400 every 10 minutes or $5.67/second to "spam the BSV blockchain" and why? You're literally throwing money at miners they would love it

>>14913724
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/op-ed-how-many-wrongs-make-wright/
https://twitter.com/i/status/1139427428361629696

All that "spam" would do is raise the cost of a transaction to 2 sats per byte instead of 1

2 satoshis is equal to $0.0000034

someone ban op, such a delusion is oustanding

>>14916643
I can tell you're from reddit

>>14916584
>t would cost you $3400 every 10 minutes

That's 489k per day , it's extremly little , and 178M per year.

>and why?You're literally throwing money at miners they would love it

In the case of btc yes it would be throwing money at miners.
In the case of BSV it's not all a governments need to do is spent 380m doing spam transactions to have the bsv blockchain at nearly 2 petabyte size.

After that they just need to find the 8 to 30 nodes that remain operating and arrest them , intimidating them or simply calling them to testify and asking them stupid questions like they did to facebook.

Hell they may need to spend less than 380m usd as every time they spam more people would move to bsv increasing the blockchain size.
All they need to do is spam during low usage for two years and they cucked it to death.

With btc the costs become way way higher as the blockchain size is going to be small regardless of how much you spam it.

And while you can make it unusable by pushing fees to high eventually as you said you end up gifting money to miners.
But contrary to bsv the blockchain remains small and with 10k nodes.

>>14916656
>there will never be new miners
dude you are so incredibly stupid I cant even fathom this. if muh goberment decides to "spam" the BSV blockchain (aka use it) miners make a killing and new miners will fall over themselves to fill the rising demand. its like you faggots dont understand simple economics.

>>14916692
Miners don't download the blockchain you fucking retard.
Only nodes do those are two different questions and nodes do it like jannies for free.

>>14916692
not even to mention that BSV is regulation friendly and actually wants to run their business above board. unlike BTC and BCH which are rampant with unregulated exchanges and pump and dump schemes. corekeks are so desperately stupid in their arguments its just sad at this point. keep waiting for Lightning network and muh institutional money lmao

>>14916708
> two different THINGS

>>14916708
>Miners don't download the blockchain you fucking retard.
mining pools do though and theres nothing stopping new pools to come on board you mouthbreathing retard. nodes dont verify transactions and are virtually useless to the network except for soibois like you to feel self-important

>>14916717
>not even to mention that BSV is regulation friendly and actually wants to run their business above board.

And like libra it will not be allowed

>>14916722
>mining pools do though

8 fucking pools in bsv so 8 nodes

>and theres nothing stopping new pools to come on board

Yes there is its economies of scale mining pools will always be few

"Your thoughts are inverted. Everything OTHER than BSV is a shitcoin.”

>>14916727
one is magic internet money ran by a giant corporation that is already at odds with governments for privacy violations. the other is a decentralized, immutable protocol that is not under the control of a single entity, will create gazillions in tax revenue and save governments,banks and industrie even more gazillions. do the math you fucktard lmao

>>14916656
Do you know how cheap storage is for enterprise at scale?

2 petabytes is nothing

$380,000,000 in "spam transactions" can be stored on hardware that will cost a very tiny fraction of that

>>14916749
you are stupid AND dishonest. just because miners dont NEED to store the entire blockchain doesnt mean that a whole bunch of them dont actually do it. there is a whole lot more than 8nodes and there will be even more as the network useage grows. you do know what useage means right? thats when people actually use BSV for something, unlike BTC which has 95% fake volume, runs on unregulated scam exchanges and everybody is sitting on it waiting to be rich. lmao just keep coping corecuck

>>14916771
also it is quite ironic that corecucks always go on about muh decentralization when the reality is BTC is so fucking centralized a single dev team (financed by bilderberger group) can fuck with the protocol and guarantee devs will never adopt it because it keeps changing all the time. BSV protocol will be set in stone next year and attract hordes of developers that dont want their baseline protocol changed by a team of neckbeard autist every other week. you faggots really dont understand anything and its gonna be hilarious seeing you all neck yourselves next year.

>>14916717
this. Craig designed BSV to be turbo-law compliant and xxxxxl-auditing friendly.

He worked for BDO in australia and has massive hands on experience on the auditing topic.

BSV's design is basically like some expert from the Big4 was involved in it.

If you're from legal/accounting in a company and you would need to advise a blockchain your recommendation would quickly boil down to BSV.

>>14916862
its almost as if Creg is a stable genius who actually thought this blockchain shit through. while shitcoin devs are retarded manchildren who are too busy smearing boogers on the wall to see the bigger picture. really activates my almonds.

>>14916973
Craig is just a fraud who's most likely going to be charged with perjury. calvin should have kept that retard in the broom closet

>>14916764
OH peta

>>14914705
poloniex or bittrex

>>14915754
Industry isnt buying your small drives at retail prices. They would have petabyte drives at wholesale prices. Shit its not that fucking advanced unless you’re a jobless froggie.

>>14916862
>If you're from legal/accounting in a company and you would need to advise a blockchain your recommendation would quickly boil down to BSV.
"..well Boss, for Blockchain, we've got the choice between closed-source from that pair of convicts who are forever in court for defrauding people and forging documents, or, open-source as trusted, verified and used by, well, everyone else.."
Hmmm, choices. Which would YOU recommend ?

>>14917369
man i don't really care about your arguments. im just looking forward to the day he signs&dumps when half of biz will be filled with pink wojaks threads and headlines like "FUCK HE WAS LEGIT ALL ALONG". i will then simply jerk off to your tears and losses while enjoying my 5x or 7x and thats about it then. have a nice day and enjoy poverty.

>>14917418
this why even bother anymore talking to these retards
Im just waiting for day of the wojak I will open my finest bottle of champagne and feast on shitcoiner tears

Lads is everyone in the BSV club fudding this like link?

>>14917418
>>14917429
some well-reasoned argument here as ever lads. Totally convinced both me and anyone reading on, Closed Source Blockchain as run by a pair of convicts variously accused of fraud, forgery and impersonation, its the Way Forward

>>14917476
I had 10+ posts with well reasoned arguments and totally BTFO the corecuck I was talking to. not my fault you cant read anon.

>>14917418
>im just looking forward to the day he signs&dumps
Yeah, good luck. That's your only hope in this competitive space while we're enjoying the show.

>>14915976
you said progress
where is the progress?

>>14915884
talk all you want, where is the progress?
all I see are some old greg commits in your code
show us the progress OP is talking about

>>14913724

The "S" in "BSV" stands for SCAM.

>>14917520
>imagine being this stupid
protip for you drooling retard, its literally spelt out in the OP

>>14913724
So tell me how and what kind of app can i make with this coin.

>>14917529
in what way is it a scam? did they do an ico? are they fundraising?

I love how NPCs get triggered over the mention of BSV. They hate it more than Hitler
Anyway, has anyone built a dex based on bsv yet?

>>14916656
>arrest them
why it’s legal. what is this fantasy?

>>14917537

https://docs.bitdb.network/docs/tutorial_v3

>>14917668

To trade what?

>>14917520

Keep your head in the sand, being obtuse won't help you in the market.

>>14917668
>Anyway, has anyone built a dex based on bsv yet?
You can't use BSV for building DEXes or dapps. It's a media storage platform.

>>14917761
What?
A media platform, for like, hosting contract negotiations and whatever other kind of 'media' one needs to build a DEX (like atomic swaps etc)

>>14918071
I'm afraid you don't understand the definitions of the terms you're referring to.

>>14917761

All blockchains are storage platforms. You can do much more on BSV than on ETH.

https://www.yours.org/content/blockchain-computing-on-ethereum-and-bitcoin-sv-57371d4d5297/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CLNrcCwDU

Just read sorce code of BTC:
https://github.com/trottier/original-bitcoin/blob/master/src/main.cpp
// FAT32 filesize max 4GB, fseek and ftell max 2GB, so we must stay under 2GB

>>14918283
>if we launch an off-chain cloud service, we can beat ETH
I guess so can DOGE