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REN BTFOs your shitcone

>>14744383
How so? Tell me faggot

federal government insider here
XSN hits 10$ eoy after USA cracks down on crypto in september

>>14744542
Oh boy it's gonna be good.
XSN literally has the option for anyone to send ANY coin anonymously.
XMR will be pointless as a hold privacy wise, when you can send BTC and LTC completely anonymously between wallets.

>>14744542
This

This one is gonna blow soon.

Considering they are supported by Ledger, Trezor AND Xeeda - and yet works on their OWN hardware wallet speaks for itself.

Like, imagine if you could invest in LEDGERcoin at the very beginning? HUGE GAINS.

This is your opportunity to do JUST that and much more.

>MIND BLOWN

>>14744542
Still not selling

Stakenet DEX launch is a day I am going to remember for the rest of my life.

>>14745147
thought xeeda was dead

buying

>>14745322
I don't think a lot of people use Xeeda, but the fact of the matter is, that XSN is supported by all of these hardware wallet devices, and yet is sitting at a marketcap below $10 mio
Diversified some of my LINK bags into XSN, got 45k XSN a few days ago, and I'm impressed by the project already honestly

https://www.combatnerd.com/stakingrewards/XSN/

Your current HODL value 10,000.000 XSN $1,012.230
daily earnings (0.048%) 4.795 XSN $0.485
monthly earnings (1.458%) 145.833 XSN $14.762
annual earnings (17.500%) 1,750.000 XSN $177.140

I don't think $10/coin eventually is unreasonable, and if so will $1,000 now be enough to retire in 5 years? The $1,000 example above yields 1,750XSN/year, at ten dollars a piece that enough to live a poorfag retired life forever. Doesn't seem like a bad gamble for a grand.

That sell side is so fucking thin this shit going to pop so hard when it starts moving. Only a few retards selling at this level though so it’s hard to accumulate, managed to bag 8mn’s so far though so think I will make it

>>14745272

couldnt care less about the dex, they have anon/private txs, instant and feeles and unlimited txs, lightning network, dapps, etc etc they render most coins useless

1 million $+ per masternode in 3 years, pretty much like dash in 2017 but that one is useless LMFAO

>>14745514
Kiiind of agree with some of your points.
XSN will make privacy coins pretty much useless, as you will be able to use their multi currency wallet to send and receive private transactions in whatever currency you desire.
Being able to tether up in seconds using USDT on lightning will also be fucking awesome!
See a HUGE BTC pump? Tether up, and rebuy. Easy

>Instant one-click private swaps between BTC, LTC, and now Tether via LN swaps. Goods payable with BTC can be bought with LTC, Tether, or XSN.
>Interoperability between LN coins, ETH/ERC20, and EOS tokens
>Re-establishes privacy that LN routers potentially compromise while re-establishing privacy for otherwise-traceable BTC funds
>Truly decentralized DEX - run by MNs, secured by the network - that hosts every blockchain for every coin available for trade so the end-user doesn't need to download them individually
>Pioneered TPoS (trustless proof of stake) - stake 24/7 while your computer is off or even from cold storage
>Working to make TPoS a one-click option
>Trustless MN hosting services payable directly in XSN. Run several MNs while your computer is off and receive a 16% annual ROI in XSN
>DEX Aggregator that intends to pool together numerous other DEXes that suffer from low volume
>CCPoS - stake XSN, receive BTC, LTC, Tether
>Dedicated hardware division.
>Intending to pool MN hardware into a collective supercomputer secured by the network. The DEX is the first dApp.
>No KYC to use the DEX, perform LN swaps, or use any of the other features mentioned above.
https://www.x9developers.com/
The X9 Developers are working to obsolete centralized exchanges. They've routinely delivered on all their ambitious goals to do so.
They're doing it in a way that honors the original cypherpunks that built Bitcoin.
Stakenet is being built for the collective benefit of the entire space.

If you trade between BTC and LTC alone, this will have a tremendous amount of benefits to it.
>No bid orders
>No buying down sell walls
>No need to transfer
Funds and keys remain secured and completely in your control whether you wish to hold, trade, spend, or cold stake.

Imagine selling now, before the final release of their lightning wallet, which will make even more profits for anyone hosting a node.
I understand trying to accumulate by trading, but if this takes off massively (which is very likely, the sell side is thin as fuck) you'll be sorry, haha

does anyone in the north of england want a room for rent? 1 xsn masternode per year.

i missed out on having a DRK masternode. bought thousands of them for pennies. so multiple mn's infact. you whippersnappers nowadays know DRK as DASH after it was rebranded. a mnode then worthless, is now paying $10k USD/year each.
stakenet is like the last example i'm aware of which might stand a chance of a similar performance, at a currently affordable price.

this all sounds too much like an advert. just see...
https://masternodes.online/

Holy moly the shills in these threads

>>14745965
yeah alright sonny jim, hurry along now and buy more LINK. there's a good lad.
bless.

meanwhile, tell me which of these looks the most attractive to you?

https://masternodes.online/

nothing about xsn looks wrong/bad, all i can see is moons.

>Imagine 10 million $ daily volume on the DEX during the next bull. (Bisq just had 10 million ALONE in Zimbabwe per week)
>imagine 0.1% trading fees
>10,000$ total fees daily
>10,000/2100 masternodes
>4,76$ daily/MN
>143$ monthly/MN

If bisq can do that in Zimbabwe per week, XSNs DEX can do easily a multiple of thag globaly per day. So imagine a 100 million $ volue. Yields 1430$ per month per MN. This is a fucking gold mine, people just dont get it

Stakenet Mobile Preview :)

so is there any news coming up? I have about 5k to throw into something

>>14745965
yep there's at least one of these (((discussion))) threads every day at the moment for this, usually between 2 or 3 people all saying the same shit every day

>>14746161
New Dev update just arrived, pic related.

>>14746171
no bro i'm new to these threads in particular. guess there's a thin line between shill and imminent trillionaire believer.
on what are you not sold exactly? lots of people are aching to fuck their masterful nodes all over peoples' blockchains, but nobody can afford to do it properly with DASH, so we gamble on the next mnode moon. which incidentally is XSN.

>>14745407
never read from anyone, that they got a xeeda, but only refunds. also the last news update on xeedas homepage was in december 2018.
so xsn is supported on a non existing hardware wallet... but i guess that is just how stakenet does since the mclw is at 100% since may 21st.

>>14746214
i for one am not sold on a team that just does not release stuff that is at 100% for months. there was no properly good news (from my perspective) since the cooperation with the litecoin foundation (i really don't care for ledger/trezor before cold staking) and last useable release of something new was unlock for staking only a few months ago.

another point i am not sold on, would be that a team - which is running out of funds at the prices at the moment (where has the pr lady gone?)- is always trying to do the next step before finishing the first. i am not interested in epos, their own hardware thing, or an online wallet, which was promised to do so much more. but hey funds were allocated and nothing worth mentioning but the funds running out happened. i dont trust the project "leader" draper, who obviously is a kid without any proper idea of how long development takes.

>>14746425
They've gradually been adding more features to the wallet to give it a stronger impact upon launch.

>>14746425
We get it, you probably bought the top, lol. Cry me a fucking river dude.
The fact that the wallet has been completed just shows that the team is completely transparent which it's community. Even if it's completed, there is still a testing phase you need to go through when you're developing something as world's first.
Currently in beta testing, you can check it out if you know how to work with Linux.

The team does weekly updates, just updated with some preview pics of the mobile version..
You lack patience for something that's gonna change a lot in crypto. It's clear as day that you are an impatient investor, please just sell your "bags" and invest in LINK for all that matters. >>14746425

>>14746665
hmmm so how is it at 100% then? 100% means ready, set, release - and not we are 100% done and now we are adding functions

>>14746705
mhm software in beta is ofc 100% finished. what else

>>14746705
Post portfolio lmao

>>14746425
Weak fud jew, hope your buy order will get fulfilled at least.

>>14746705
You’re a fucking loser dude. Whenever people post criticism that holds you always go with the “bought the top haha quit crying”.

Love watching fudders flail when it comes to stakenet, just putting on a show for me, keep it coming fellas you're only hurting yourself.

>>14746723
The multi-currency wallet was done, but a vanilla MCW isn't the most exciting thing so they integrated TOR and private one-click LN swaps, both things which were intended to be added to the wallet over time.

>>14746811
i am not flailing anyone, but sure, if for you 100% for 2 months without release is good enough, go for it. and sry but it is not finished if stuff gets added. 100% but hey you will get the wallet at some mathematical more than 100% bs

i would be surprised if the wallet came out in this quarter, as well as i would be surprised if ledger or trezor were giving a shit about xsn.

and you know why? bc they don't have to, and unless stakenet is releasing something of importance, they won't.

so if you are so fucking happy with your great investment, why do you even try to shill your bags...

>>14746796
nazi or turk? oh just an antisemitic asshole anyways

Wallet is done 100% but it’s just a wallet so can store, send and receive, not very exciting. All the other points on the roadmap are additional features for it so far they have 1 click TOR privacy active and auto updates too. They are in public testing for the Lightning Swap feature and once that’s complete then it will be worthy of a release. Android build for testing coming next week so they said on the discord

>>14747043
When you develop something nobody else has ever done before, you NEED public beta testing before full release.
But it seems you would rather like some buggy release with exploits all over it, you're seriously retarded dude

>>14744368
Can I get xsn on idex and is it erc20?

>>14747043
the wallet is already running on ledger/trezor

>>14747064
Oy vey 109 countries and counting

>>14747099
No, because XSN is not some useless token which was made in 30 minutes by some scammer.
It runs on its OWN blockchain, hence why it's a coin and not a token.

They will add ERC20 tokens to their multi currency wallet though, which I'm personally looking forward to, I'll move all my LINK to the wallet once supported

>>14747099
You can buy it on Livecoin without kyc

>>14747099
XSN isn't a token, but it is going to have full support for ETH/ERC20 and EOS (pic related) and I believe it will be able to access IDEX's orderbooks through it's DEX Aggregator

>>14747098
mhm that is exactly what i said. was not critizing the 100%, was critizing the testing. ofc

anyway - ever heard of a company - idk lets take gm - saying, yeah our new model is 100% complete. now we just gonna add the board computer, the ac, the tyres, but hey it is 100% chassis

>>14747858
Kek. In GM's case, they'd make a one-off concept car, possibly add an engine to it and then shill it at trade shows years before any actual production takes place. Not the best example to prove your point.
Pic related is the 2005 Chevy Camaro concept car, which finally saw a release to the public in 2009 with a very different aesthetic than the one it has here.

>>14747968
dammit, forgot pic

>>14747968
nowhere in the world (even at trade shows) gm said it was more than a concept car. so 100% means the concept wallet. ok, so it will come out in 4 years?

>>14748020
I'm not seeing why you're so unnerved by XSN marking one core module off as 100% complete when each module has clearly been intended to be part of a bigger ecosystem that has yet to be finished. I responded to you here on why they did it in the first place >>14746819

>>14748139
Beautifully executed dismantlement of fud anon. I'm so proud of you.

>>14745913
I might be very interested. intensecoffe@gmail.com

>>14745913
You know XSN is part based on Dash and can do everything Dash can do and more so really it should be worth more when you think about it.

*tink* *tink*

I have an announcement

POSW Coin is a shitcoin

XSN is POSW Coin:
https://www.reddit.com/r/POSW_Coin/

>>14748608

>>14748608
*was

What coins is it now? Was there an ico or swap? What teams members from the previous coin are still working on the new coin? What was posw’s main focus? Why was it abandoned? Who took over development? What do they plan to do? What has been accomplished since the change? How much has been accomplished since the change?

Answer these questions you low IQ mong or forever get justed!

>>14748608
POSW was a dead project anyone holding it should be thanking the gods the X9 devs picked it up to salvage it and turn it into what it is now otherwise you would have been well and truly fucked. XSN’s dev team are fucking heroes for doing what they are doing instead of taking the easy option and just doing an ICO at the time. They didn’t they they chose to save POSW as they had a large community and were relatively well so figured that would help them with promoting XSN. They didn’t do an ICO as they knew industry regulation would clamp down on those kinds of activities at some point and didn’t want XSN to be caught up in any of that with what they are building.

So yeah try and talk shit about them all you want but doesn’t change the fact they have already achieved great things and will continue to do so

>>14749076
XSN is the perfect example of a project that's doing everything the right way - no ICO and investing what funds they had into R&D instead of marketing, thus creating an excitable community of fanatics and hardcore supporters - but still gets accused of being a scam for no reason

>>14749577
True, fucking sad.. But in reality I believe it's just a lame excuse to FUD it since most people don't even know Jack shit about the project overall.
Same as me FUD'ing LINK, because I want it to burn to the fucking ground.

Some people have waaaay too much free time, (NEETS) sitting in their mothers basement shouting scam all over. Just ignore them, they'll forever be justed, same as those who didn't buy Link at $0.20

>>14746197
Looks damn slick, when is it scheduled for release?

>>14750160
Everything is FUDded, to be fair. ETH and even BTC included. I wish someone could conjure up some convincing FUD against XSN. So far, nothing.

>>14750726
Haha.. True that.
I'm fucking comfy with my 30k XSN. Wish I could afford more honestly. Holding 1 BTC as well, but promised myself to NEVER sell it. Lol

>>14750815
You could turn that 1 BTC into 10 BTC with XSN

> Pic related

>>14751058
I know, and I will probably regret it, but my principle is never to go all in on anything. Even stocks and bonds.

>>14751201
That's a wise decision anon. Never go all in

>>14750726
Same with LINK, and look where it is now, lmao

>>14748608
Wrong, see you on the moon faggot

>>14747968
Finally someone with an actual brain here. Thanks for the laugh, good point anon

What can I do with 6k XSN? is it worth it to stake?

>>14752435
Stake it on the XSN cloud. Your best option

>>14752726
Is that their pool staking solution? Asking because I'm sitting with 3500 XSN, would be nice to stake it if possibly, no luck solo staking so far

>>14752936
Yep.. You should definitely stake it, I guess you can stake like 50-100 XSN monthly with that amount

>>14752435
>>14752936
Stake those coins using the cloud is yalls best option atm
Cloud.stakenet.io

>>14752435
>>14752726
>>14752936
>>14753258
>>14754160
Whats staking, what does it do?

>>14752435
Anything over 5k and you might make a little more with TPoS compared to the cloud.

>>14754426
https://stakenet.io/faq/#what_is_staking_and_minting_or_forging

>>14754575
>https://stakenet.io/faq/#what_is_staking_and_minting_or_forging
Thank you, I thought it would cost me my coins, so it's just free passive income?

>>14754596
Exactly. It's pretty dope imho

>>14754596
Nope. You should take a look at the whole FAQ, some pretty good knowledge can be found

For those interested, XSN is very close to having cold staking ready to go. Everything on their end is done and now they're waiting on Ledger and Trezor to implement their code

Anons what will your approach be for your MN rewards?
Tempting as it may be to swap them for BTC, I think I'd rather put all the rewards into buying more MNs

>>14756077
50% into acquiring more for staking, 50% into maintaining a fresh supply of pupinias

>>14756489
hmm

ugh, i was paying 850ish/coin yest, now i've got more buying power the bids are above 1000. should really just set an order and wait for a correction, but i want them now

>>14756698
Set a buy order @900 and hope it fills.. there are plenty up for grabs on the sell side right now, you could buy that before someone else snaps it, but your choice.

>>14756865
>hope it fills
>check 1hr later
>+400%
fug muh FOMO.
desu i don't suppose a few satos makes a lot of difference if you're in it for the long-run. daytraders may need to shit the bed over mini fluctuations, but i want this bitch to x100 at least and don't want to sell for like half a decade if ever, so maybe i'll just overpay a little.

>>14756905
I'd just buy those sell walls honestly, but I understand if you don't want to as well. In the end it's your decision mate

>>14756905
Just buy the sell walls dude, or set a buy wall, no biggie man

wtf is wrong with livecoin's XMR market

https://www.livecoin.net/en/trading/XMR_BTC

>>14757515
Fuck XMR long live XSN

>>14757833
Indeed, haha

>surely someone will sell into my buy order soon

>tfw you only have 1 MN
it's a bittersweet feelin' fellas

>>14758703
1 MN is enough to make it in a year.

>>14758703
one day sad nocoiners will be complaining "tfw only have 1 XSN", anon. your 1x mn riches will be more than sufficient for a lifetime of made-it-tendies and fame

>>14758702
Plenty of coins on the sell side, just buy from there, lol

>+23%
stop ffs. crash into my buy orders then moon, asshole.

>>14759267
Not happening, we going straight to 2k sats, with or without you

>>14759375
FUCK OFF I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET A MN FOR DAYS AND MY BUY ORDERS JUST KEEP PUSHING THE PRICE UP SOMEONE SELL ME A FUCKING MASTERNODE YOU PAJEETS REEEEEEE

>>14759432
Just buy from the sell side? It's still dirt cheap anon...

>>14759641
I should have done that too, I wanted low 800 sat being greedy and now it’s up 25% fml

yeah nice fucking chart kek. must be fun being in a pajeet pnd group. is this the next VIDT?

>>14759729
>he screamed, kicking his LINK bags and crying

>>14759729
Anon, this is not a PnD, this is future income. The thing is we need strong hands going forward. I'm sure there will be corrections, but invest in this at your own risk
-180k holder

Damn Son that mobile wallet is sick ! Seems like they are pretty advanced in LN tech too. Cannot wait to get my gands on the light wallet to test thoses LN swaps !!

>>14759375
yeah nah i'm not paying this much. it'll correct soon, just means i get to be stressed as hell for a couple of days, then glad that i bought in at around 800, not this mad peak.

>>14760478
Zoom out.

Use your own strategy, but we will see.

>>14760478
Maybe you’re right, I bought a bunch around 770, but maybe it will return to its normal range since BTC settled down

>>14760478
It ain't going back down brotha.. You missed out, and youll hate yourself when we hit 2000 sats

>>14760478
I was trying to get an MN at 800 but order wouldn’t fill, decided to FOMO buy at 1000 but someone beat me too it and now it’s over 1100 fml

>>14761207
Why are you posting shit that’s not in your favor? It’s not funny or interesting. At this point it’s annoying cause all your doing in bumping the thread with bullshit.

>>14761421
Because i’m pissed off with myself for trying to scalp in at the bottom instead of just getting in when I had the chance. Shits in top 10 on CMC now, is it worth trying to still scalp in at this point or what i’m getting serious FOMO on this incase you hadn’t noticed

>>14761468
Scalp you cheapfuck

>>14761468
Just buy already cheapskate, LOL

XSN has hovered around 2k sat for a long time. It's unusual seeing it go for this low in sat value.

>>14745636
>Being able to tether up in seconds using USDT on lightning will also be fucking awesome!

why in seconds?

>>14762950
Because it will move to lightning soon. The lightning network will offer near instant transactions, for a fraction of the cost you normally pay in fees.

>>14763492
CCPoS should also be pretty useful in the next bear market. In the event that there is another mega bullrun - all signs are pointing there - and you're mad enough to keep holding any particular staking coin instead of cashing out, you can convert all your staking rewards into Tether and then try to catch BTC when it bottoms out.

>>14764080
Yeah. Cross chain staking is one of the features that excites me the most for some reason. I'd love to get my staking rewards directly in BTC

>>14764276
It's just crossing my mind right now that LN swaps and CCPoS give anyone using Stakenet wallet a sort of "ultra-position" in the market.
>Swap into fiat when BTC tops out
>Swap into BTC when it bottoms out
>Swap to alts when they start outperforming BTC and back to BTC when it blasts off and leaves alts in the dust
>repeat, repeat

>>14764737
And all the fees generated by doing this are paid back to the MNs.

>>14764974
>tfw you become impervious to Barting down

>>14764737
Shit, you are absolutely right.

>Mind BLOWN

>>14765074
feelsgoodman.jpg

>>14761468
Aaannd it keeps going up BRAH

Mobile Wallet brings Huge interest it seems. Waiting for that Android Build next Week for Testing :-D

>>14766010
Never hurt of the project, but I'll definitely try it. Wonder how the lightning transactions really work, never really understood the concept

Ok ex is right around the corner

>>14766420
That would be sick, instant rise to 10k sat guaranteed

was just talking with a Messari rep about Stakenet. VC firms in Switzerland are buying up stacks

I was about to go into this a month ago, but now all my bags are super heavy

fuck man

>>14766901
Make It Capital is one of those VC firms invested in Stakenet

>>14767057
Source? Don't believe any firms are invested in this

>>14767095
https://twitter.com/Makeitcapital/status/1084903016044613632
https://make-it.capital/universum-lab-neu/

>>14767226
Damn, not bad.
I'll buy a few K's worth. If this shit blows up, I want to be part of it for once

>>14744368
I am a retarded brainlet (pic related). Explain to me how the DEX works? Was on stakenet and can't see shit about it.

Is it an actual exchange like Binance or is it something else entirely?

>>14767324

Watch this anon, it explains it all

https://youtu.be/hzOko5P8c3I

>>14767363
mkay when does the dex launch?

>>14767414
A couple of months I THINK, no specific date on it. However their multi currency lightning wallet will come out as a beta test next week if you want to try it out. Instant BTC LTC and XSN transactions

>>14767646
eh i think i'm probably going to wait until there's at least an announced date before i buy any. the DEX is the big seller to me, as a burger I know very well that it's going to be necessary.

>>14767696
I completely understand you, but the wallet will be insanely good as well. You'll be able to tether up 100% anon inside your own Wallet in seconds using the lightning network and tor integration.
Will be available for desktop and app for Android and IOS soon. It looks sick, so I'm definitely buying more soon.

>>14767770
I don't even know how you buy it on abcc, there's literally so little volume you can't even do market buys with BTC.

What caused the pump today?

>>14767796
Use Livecoin. That's what I do. Never experienced any problems

>>14767951
Same, decent exchange actually.. Not my favorite, but whatever

>>14764737
Can anyone explain this CCPOS to me? I don't get it

>>14769609
Basically you can stake XSN and get your rewards in other currencies like BTC,LTC,ETH.

>>14769851
Well, how does that even work? Sounds pretty fucking dope if it's possible

Hmm. dismissed this XSN shit at first. But seems the threads are getting longer.

What's the XSN use case? I am lazy. Shill me.

>>14770259
Check the roadmap, they do so much its gonna take forever to write down here.. Do your own research buddy

When will this be on a better exchange? What competition is there? Thinking of throwing 5k in

Bump for an answer

>>14771355
Who knows. Why does it need an exchange when it will have its own soon enough.