/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>14618486
some people are good at it

>>14618488
Yeah, but it's considered the norm isn't it?

>>14618486
low iq.
just ask them simple questions that are common sense to you.
you will see.

most of them think dogs sweat

>>14618495
>normies are good at being normal
??

They see nothing wrong with it. They think it's the cycle of life and think they are meant to be doing work. I dunno, I just wanna fucking be a neet and do my own hobbies and shit. 2000 euros net income a month would make me a neet in a heartbeat because I can live frugally and in my tax ridden country I could still live semi comfy.

>>14618486
They're normies so the world is rosy to them. They're fighting on the right side lf history against racists and the movies tell them so, so they feel confident. They get to head home in their finance audi, crack open a fresh beer and whip through tinder whilst enjoying miley cyrus' new song about anal prolapse jobs. The girlfriend is out with the lads for the night so you can put your feet up and watch game of thrones and anticipate talking about it with the guys from work tomorrow.

>>14618486
You should try it sometime. It builds character in some of you prep school faggots.

Working among plebs certainly motivated me not to be poor no more. Now i work from home.

>>14618486
they dont want to starve to death, i fucking hate work yet i go everyday.

>>14618524
Miley needs to go back to her roots, the new songs are shite :'(

>>14618540
Wew that's some chip

>>14618587
Then you probably aren't a normie

>>14618540
Wow you reached the stage we are already at. Good for you

Because you gotta survive in major cities and do what you have to do to keep a roof over your head and food on the table.

Besides, you meet people who become friends for life by putting yourself out there before the job.

>>14618486
My job is 100& on call. Only go in when I'm needed, never have to talk to people and its salary. I'll definitely be doing this until I make it and maybe even after.

>>14618524
>The girlfriend is out with the lads for the night
truly the normie way

>>14618524
Who hurt you?

The prospect of working for 40 years and needing to take drugs to cope with my ADD is daunting. It's almost too much sometimes when I think how miserable I'd get.

>>14618486
Most "normies" barely work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week.

That's fucking nothing.

Having just spent 3 months at home unable to work with a broken ankle, bored out of my mind and chewing through my savings, gave me a renewed appreciation for my job.

>>14619069
It's completely true though? Why are you here?

>>14619116
Get a hobbie sounds like slave mentality. Just my .02 cents. I already like you since we're here, but you can call me a faggot or whatever

>>14619140
Chainlink shills on twitter

They just don't think
Simple labor isn't that hard when you don't have an inner voice constantly whining how boring it is

How the fuck do I escape wage slavery?

I bought 350 LINKies because it was all I could afford to lose. Please let me make it, /biz/. I'd do anything. I literally cannot imagine a fate worse than cuckolding myself like this until I die.

Started working full time 8 months ago right after I finished university.
Every single day is hell.
The thing is, most of my coworkers seem unhappy aswell but they literally blow 100% of their income every fucking month. It sounds crazy but it’s the reality of many people.
They are unhappy, buy stupid shit on the weekends to get some short time happy feels and then are forced to work again. I will retire within the next 15 years (conservative) even if my crypto goes to shit. I just need to find a way to endure the next years in this hell

these post wall thots are unironically the true entrepreneurs. tapping into this seethening incel 'Investor' market niche where even the most damaged goods come off as 10/10s

literally dozens of accounts of twitter thots with 50k followers posting : 'my bf left me, bitcoin never lefts anyone'

>>14619202
We're on /biz/, trying to make money is my hobby.

>>14619202
faggot or whatever

>>14619278
Where do you work?

I started working in a supermarket while I study my Masters and most people seem depressed. It's horrible but at the same time I feel like this is the life they chose for themselves.

Having a job maintains an appearance of success. Not having a job means you're a failure, in the eyes of normie peers. It's hard to stray away from what society deems normal. So they just accept it.

I live off crypto. Life so far is fucking great. But I still get texts from old friends asking "are you doing ok? we're worried about you". They forward me job listings a few times a month. The pressure to conform is strong, and I couldn't imagine the average wagecuck being able to fight that feeling. Wagies are basically like heroin addicts, trying to keep everyone in their circle as addicted as they are. As soon as someone decides to get clean, they try to rope you back in.

>>14619588
Have you told them you're a self-employed day trader or do they just think you're a neet? Sound like they're just looking out for you bro.

>>14619604
they know, I've talked about crypto for years and got made fun of for it.

>>14618486
Most Normies do the bare minimum at work in corporate land. Chat and make coffee all day and shitty meetings, shitty team building exercises. It’s more a daycare center for adults than being a wageslave.

>>14619627

This is the truth. People earning more money than I do, literally their job is to pass emails around to each other. More time is spent deciding who will do a task than actually doing it.
And if that doesn't make you upset - maybe this will: I work in a government department.
Your tax dollars are going towards people whose job it is to use a computer 7.5 hours a day and doesn't understand how to take a fucking screenshot.
Every single day without fail I will receive screenshots from people in fucking MS Word documents.
The only reason government facilities even function is because people like me are doing the work of 3 others that clock in, drink coffee and socialise most of the day (Also known as women).

>>14619617
>I've talked about crypto foe years and got made fun of for it
I know the feeling, the one time I brought up crypto trading to normans they started laughing at me. Then they proceed to go back to their wagecuck job the next day like chemaddicts.

>>14618486
I have no idea, I grew up watching my father give away all his life to his job, he was basically never home. I don't think I could ever do that, I want to make it so I can be always present in my children's lives when I build a family.

>>14619779
>my father give away all his life to his job, he was basically never home
>this is the """honorable""" thing to do

fuck normies

>>14618486
I think they party hard on weekends to dull their sense of life and rinse repeat. Quite a normie sheep life.

>>14618486
We've been conditioned for thousands of years to work to survive. If you don't have to work at all to feed yourself then you are one of the insanely privileged few in human history. Literally the 0.0001%

>>14619069
you need to go back

>>14619617
Ain't that the truth. Everybody going to work and I'm just sitting here with 100s of k worth of BTC eth and link waiting on the next bull.
NO WAGE CAGE FOR ME
NO WAGE CAGE FOR ME
SUCK IT BEZOS

>>14618486
the thought of being unemployed and looked down by the rest of normie society scares the shit out of them.

Alcohol, caffeine and tobacco. Some do drugs.

Vices and drugs are the ultimate form of cope.

>>14619553
I work at a big fashion company in the marketing department. Sounds alright but is actually shit

>>14618540
>Working among plebs certainly motivated me not to be poor no more.
Exactly what I've experienced. If you want motivation to fund your own business just work a min wage job and see every day the +30yo people that work there. You won't want to be like them.

>>14618540
So you wagecucked just to learn that being a NEET is a good way to live when /biz/ has been talking about this for how many years now

I studied hard and landed a very good job in tech (fulfilling and challenging work, great team, great working conditions, not having to deal with corporate bullshit). Pretty much what I'd set as a goal when I first started thinking about my future.
Thing is, I feel like I'm losing part of myself whenever I'm not at home. It's hard to explain, but it feels like the "job me" is slowly chipping away at the "real me". I know it's unreasonable but I feel tormented by the fact that I don't have enough time to spend on my own self-development.
Most people feel that way (I think), but my case is more severe because I actually tasted the sweet nectar. I had a few months off before going to grad school and I spent all day reading, learning, making stuff and working out. I'd go to bed every night feeling like I was crafting my own perfect little world. I felt like I grew more than I ever did during that period of isolation and everything now feels like a joke in comparison.
Of course this is a selfish and childish way to think. I have a much better job than most people, I guess I'm just not very ambitious and would rather stay in my own little world.

I don't know how normies do it.

>>14618540
So you got money to stay at home all day? Bro, I don't need money to say home all day

>>14619779

It’s in there genes fren. I learned this the hard way recently. When these idiots say “if I won the lottery I’d probably still work” they mean it.

They are genetically programmed for toil, and they rarely if ever have a thought about another way, much less try to make a plan to get out of it.

I tried telling so many people IRL that I genuinely like about LINK in the .45-.85 cent range, nobody listens.

There’s a reason it’s 99% peasants and 1% Kings, and it’s because that’s the rough percentage of leaders and followers. If you made a serf a king he would be begging for the field again within a week, its extremely fucked up.

The NPC meme may as well be a reality because the average normie tard is barely more than an automaton. I used to believe anyone is capable of anything, but that’s simply not true.

We are ALL slaves to our genetics, but the truly great strive to overcome their limitations, break the bounds of their origination.

That is a person, anything less is cattle.

>>14619251
Exact same boat as you but I only have 312 linkz

What always baffles me about these threads is the inability of NEETs to understand how they depend on people "wageslaving" for sustenance, transportation, medical care, and basically everything else. Somebody had to build the computer you're posting from right now. Somehow they seem to have some vague idea that with modern technological advancement, humans as a group would no longer need to sustain themselves just as any other animal.
My dad worked every day from 4:00 AM to 8:00 PM and he died last year, I've never really known him too well. I don't want to do that. But living completely off of other people would seriously undermine my self-esteem.

>>14620174
Except you misunderstand NEETs. We still afford all those things that you talked about, but they don't need to have a job, making their payment per hour of their life, the metric that wagies like so much, effectively infinite. NEETs already won and that's why I think wagies are so salty about it

>>14620202
What things do you afford that I talked about?
You don't have infinite funds. You locked yourself out of much of society and are respected by none. Your former school buddies will acquire skills and progress in a professional career. Some woman will be attracted to that, they will found a family and make their parents proud. You can tell yourself all you want that you don't care about these things. In many ways your life is that of a disabled person, a migrant, an elderly person, or a psychiatric patient.

>>14620078
Your post makes me want to try harder anon, thanks.

>>14620174
oh you mean shitskins and third worlders?

>>14620202

You survive solely by the grace and mercy of wagies. Were they not so stupid you'd be under a bridge or locked up to keep the streets clean

>>14620406
>caring about what others think
Ppbbbbttttttt

>>14619843
There is a different between 'work' and wagecuckery

>>14620174
I'm not even a NEET, and as you've seen with the people in this thread, alot of the people here aren't NEETs either. The question is more about how normies can work 8 hours a day like their on auto-pilot while alot of us can't fucking stand it and would happily become NEETs if we reasonably could.

>>14619893
or maybe they need to pay for rent and food

>>14620043
>I had a few months off before going to grad school and I spent all day reading, learning, making stuff and working out. I'd go to bed every night feeling like I was crafting my own perfect little world. I felt like I grew more than I ever did during that period of isolation and everything now feels like a joke in comparison.
kek I do this now anon and I've been feeling the pressure recently to get a job so people would get off my back and maybe I could socialize a bit more and meet cool people
Giving up this life, though? For what? To be included in the social construct that is wagie-dom? I dunno anon

>>14620441

Never give up fren, the exits are there, you just have to find them on your own, ignore the herds, because they will never even look up to try.

Godspeed.

they have things to look forward to after wage salving unlike the rest of /biz/

>>14618486
By spying on my enemies and sabatoging their efforts/dreams. Feels as good as making money doing nothing. Being paid to hurt those deserving, relying on outside perspective-consensus to avoid overdoing anything or feeling guilt.

>>14620078
fucking saved
you said it good
Reminder that an NPC is someone that doesn't make decisions for themselves. All they can do is react to the stimulus around them. Kind of like yes-men but confirmist-men.

For example: NPC's aren't able to adopt or form their own philosophy or way of life. They adopt what they see and basically become a social mirror.Hence fads.
Non-NPC's can however also just react to whatever they see and play monkey see monkey do, but they unlike NPC's possess the unique ability to think for themselves.
They are more likely to think twice before blindly falling into a honeypot or accepting whatever bullshit the shiniest guy in the room has to say.

>>14620406
You can be stupid rich and still be authentically attractive to women. It's just not as likely.

>>14619116
Theres tons of jobs you can do while sitting at home. For example, I used to wholesale real estate deals during the summer. I would find motivated sellers, and agree to close the deal quickly if they accepted my lowball offer. Hundreds of phone calls later, I'd get say 3-5 to agree, and 1 or 2 would sell. I'd make a good 10-30K per summer off my deals, although I would put in a ton of hours.

>>14618486

What i noticed is that wagies have one thing in common. And this is the fear of not being able to pay debt.
So 1 emotion of many others keep them in their hamster circle.
Their brain is not capable of thinking outside of that circle , ask them 1 simple question about stocks etfs or bonds and they will certainly dodge the question with "i have no idea". They tend to talk more about the new leased car of wage chad which they also want to have etc.
They want to talk about liabilities instead of assets. Thats all , but thats all they get taught in school.
Some wagies created a comfort zone around their job so they arent able to do something else or they dont "Want" to.
Thank god we live in these ages where information is accesable to everyone and i got my own path. Im investing mostly in stocks bonds and etf's with most focus on dividends and 1 etf on reinvesting dividends.
Planing on retiring with 33.
Perfect age to find a good looking 22y/o cheap girl so she breed me 4 kids which can inherit my portfolio , also im not going to send my kids more as needed to school.
Currently 26y/o

>>14620781

At a certain point everyone asks “why?”

True thinking people will then think “how do I know that is true? Where did that answer come from? Why do they think that? Is that the real truth or this individuals truth? Is that Societies truth but not the REAL truth? Is truth subjective based on variables?” Etc.

Normies are given their answer and digest it and it becomes part of they “personality.”

Most of us who are truly aware start out this way and are crushed into conformity, some go to sleep and die, others feel this caustic lie is too much to endure and look for the exits.

Godspeed all my frens, here we are among more alive individuals than anywhere else in the world, is the sad and hilarious reality.

>>14618486
Usually you try to work in a field that you enjoy, anon.

>>14618486
It really depends, if you enjoy the job you do and you're good at it and knowledgeable about it, i think that would make it reasonable to enjoy working at least sometimes. My friend has a passion for cars, he likes repairing them, and learning more about it. when he's done working as a mechanic for the day he'll help friends with work on their cars. He's the definition of a norman, but if working on cars brings him joy, why not do it full time? unfortunately not everyone has something they enjoy that can be financially sustainable at the same time.

>>14619842
This. Normies have to drink and do drugs constantly and are always weirded out that others dont need such things to cope.

>>14618486
Most people aren't conscious--that's how they do it

>>14619723
50% of the work is done by 10% of the team

>>14619723
Working as a courier, with people over twice my age, the people i respect as being knowledgable about technology and things in general, have turned out to be the worst kind of boomers you can imagine. they have been working this job, several of them, for more than a decade, yet do not understand how their barcode scanner works, or how to properly configure it. and this is while using their own phones and computers at home.

Maybe it is because my dad strives to learn everything about the things he involves himself in. i thought that was the norm, but many normies just straight up refuse to learn about the tech that they use on a daily basis and would just rather go to the person that could be their son and beg him to fix the issue for them, while still maintaining that people younger than themselves are useless. I really hate boomers.

>>14620540
Yes, if you're not careful you end up in a dead-end job you hate, in some underpaid shitshow anybody can do. But most of the people on 4chan are intelligent enough that with some foresight they can choose a field they are talented in, and gain unique skills and find satisfaction in becoming really really good at something that gets paid.

>>14620445
? If you mean that taxes only go to niggers then you're wrong, at least in my country. We don't have a lot of them. Mostly sick people and elderly or jobless people (including NEETs) are paid from the ~30-40% that I pay in tax/social security payments (most of it is the latter).

>>14620522
You can't lie to yourself, but you can try.

>>14620838
Women care about a man's financial status because it makes biological sense. Try growing old on a NEET mindset and tell me you did the right thing.

>>14620174
Agreed. I kinda enjoy reading these threads to share the feels I can relate to, but the reduction of "other people" into superficial abstractions is a toxic place to be. These so-called "normies" are probably more like yourself than you'd be comfortable to admit. I bet that a lot of these thoughts arise in them as well but perhaps not everyone is able to articulate them or has a proper place to vent. Be careful to not let your observations of others dwindle into narcissism and resentment.

>>14619588
Work has aspects that are necessary for human mental health
>talk to people everyday
>work together towards a common goal
>have a daily routine
NEETS could achieve this with hobbies or volunteering or self employment that actual involves working with other people face-to-face but most just sit at home and watch anime

>>14621336
thank you for your contribution

>>14620915
greed and fear are the normies best friends.
they fear to be left out of society while they are trying to get higher and higher until hey are the top.
less than 2% get there only for them to realise how much time it cost them to get there .
they are the horse following the carrot and they cant escape .

>>14621768

They are getting taught to do something in Jobwise that they'll enjoy.
But in reality they work for someone else's profit and only see like 10% of what they are working and creating.
Im not a communist , the opposite (Ancap).
And for me those sheeps are very well since they pay me my dividend.

>>14618486

Most of them are also very shortminded and they really prefer the 45years cuckwork and they really trust the gov pension plans.
Meanwhile im gonna retire @mid 30 and begin my entrepeneurship and work like i want to whenever i feel like to or travel where i want etc.

Its not about money but getting rich and havent the need to work for someone else.

>>14619588
crabs in a bucket

>>14621549

anime is life

>>14618486
I work every day because I don't like dying on the streets

Not everyone can live off of our parents anon

>>14618524
> girlfriend is out with the lads for the night
kek

>>14618486
The elite shit it out and the retarded population eat it up. What do you want them to do instead?
They don't want to be important, they don't want to think, just enjoy and consume and don't be bothered with thinking. This might be blackpill tier, but its the truth that normies can't into science.
Only privileged people have ever been the ones that made scientific discoveries and did something with their lives other than being a mediocre average man working a blue collar job marrying and having children.
You can say the bullshit of "wake up sheeple" as much as you want, they don't care and they don't want to stop consuming the shit that is pop culture

>>14618486
Almost everyone can do it. You're just being lazy.

>>14618507
the truth

>>14619069
this is satire

>>14619828
There are some honorable professions though
And also i don't think normies enjoy wageslaving in wagecage.
It all seems like a mix of necessity / cope / risk aversion / consumerism