/biz/ - Business & Finance

It's been online for hours now?
https://explorer.nknx.org/

Less nodes than in testnet lel

>>14529096
> NETWORK NODES 17,156

Nope. Several thousand more than before.
Can no one on biz read?

>>14529316
Says 13000

>>14529328
Oh.. well yes now it does. I refreshed page and it showed a flat 13,000 which is really unlikely. A super round figure like that? Yea no something's not displaying correctly.

The NKNX team are updating the crawler for the explorer. Give it a little time and it'll show accurate readings.

When the fuck will Americans be able to trade this shit?

>>14529401
IDEX

>>14529401
They're talking with coinbase and binance I believe. The US market is a bastard for red tape and legalities, so it's taken longer than expected. It's all on the roadmap though. Either use IDEX or hold fire for a while.

>>14529427
New exchanges MIGHT happen when it's no longer an ICO ERC-20

>>14529401
US compliant exchange Beaxy is live and NKN is on the second round of listings I believe. Shaping up to a really promising exchange - lots of advanced options for pro traders and the like

Otherwise it's just a case of waiting for binance or for exchanges like gate and bittrex to open up NKN for US markets

>>14529449
They've been talking with Binance for over a year. It'll happen. It's a matter of when.

By the way, the nCDN is a total hoax. They're running a private fucking company over there. Absolute worthlessness.

Does anyone have an node running so I could connect my app to it. They don't seem to bother updating the fucking libraries; can't see any block events going on. Gib IP address plox.

>>14529713
>By the way, the nCDN is a total hoax. They're running a private fucking company over there. Absolute worthlessness.

what?

>>14529406
No volume

>>14529535
This is what I'm hoping for. I already have accounts on bittrex and gate but they still aren't letting me trade reeeee

>>14529858
yep. it's not open to public.
not sure if it's even open source

>>14530382
Did they ever say it was open to the public? Either initially, or ever?

>>14530654
Who cares? cope harder

>>14530684
Cope? Ha even with it falling for two days I'm profitable. I'll look for you back on earth while sitting on the moon.

4 NODES UP AND RUNNING BOYSSS

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>14530729
>I'll look for you back on earth while sitting on the moon.
*if nkn crew allows it.
It's becoming a centralized scam, unironically. When you buy their tokens, I doubt you expect them to build something for themselves - for their own profit, rather than for everyone. It makes no sense. It's fraud.

>>14530801
It's a trustless network... You can do whatever you want with it

>>14530828
the cdn thing isn't.

>>14530801
How is it becoming centralised?

>>14530863
So? The cdn is an app that they've built. Hardly makes a difference

>>14530896
It will do if they use said app to deliver video all around china.

>>14531032
That's still a testament of the usability of the NKN network. Has absolutely nothing to do with it becoming centralized. You could do it yourself too, on NKN

>>14531032

>>14530896
They've spent the last n months building some private software, and now we don't have smart contracts.
How is that anything but a fucking nightmare? Imagine Vitalik spending his days building crypto kitties. How much would ETH be worth? $0.

>>14530867
the same way DADI is becoming more centralized. They're building an infrastructure around the network that is just for them. How is anyone going to compete when they
1. Are in control of the blockchain development
2. Build their own apps and make the blockchain adjust
who would compete and build anything on that? It's just a private venture right now

>>14529096
Soon to be more than btc and eth node count combined
>lel
NKN is the first crypto to have the most nodes running ever and best of alll still remain decentralized. It's headed for 30k and then to 6 digits in the long term. Stay poor

>>14531127
I have 20k you dumb fuck

>>14531080
Oh no no, I'm saying it's a good thing. I don't really care what people say about the network or team. If I can buy in cheap, and they suddenly drop the bomb that they're running networking for one of the major video providers in china, I'm golden.

>>14531109
They've said a few times that the apps they're building are just to make use of the network. NKN is able to move that much data quickly, they might as well also build profitable applications for it. I don't have a problem with it. The network is still exactly as promised, but they are able to build on top of it just like anyone else.

>>14531127
The speed in which this network will scale is incredible.

>>14531032
Wouldn't all that video traffic run on the community nodes who get mining rewards for it?

>>14531356
Yep. If they can sort that out and have it running nicely, it'll have a fantastic use-case going, even more reason for people to run nodes and get rewards, and the token price would shoot skyward.

>>14531336
>They've said a few times that the apps they're building are just to make use of the network. NKN is able to move that much data quickly, they might as well also build profitable applications for it. I don't have a problem with it. The network is still exactly as promised, but they are able to build on top of it just like anyone else.
Their team is like 6 people and they're using their time to build apps for their own profit, instead of improving the blockchain.
It's so fucking doomed.

There will be no new outside developers until this shit changes, currently there's 0. Before that, things will be so fucking stalled.

>>14531441
The blockchain is good enough that they're developing their own apps on it. If that isn't saying something idk what the fuck you need

>>14531490
>The blockchain is good enough
There's not even smart contracts and you spout this shit. Delusion. Then now they're building centralized apps, fantastic.

>>14531441
>instead of improving the blockchain
What needs to be improved? They are pretty open with the community. If you think something needs improvement they will listen. Otherwise a blockbuster app built on NKN is probably the best thing that could happen to spur adoption.

>>14531554
It's not a smart contract platform bro. Maybe try Ethereum?

>>14531441
They are designed to be like Redhat (a for profit company) which is building products for clients ontop of the NKN distributed network. They are also continously improving and testing the underlying chain as and when needed.

Anyone can build their own apps on NKN, it's permissionless. Community devs have already built some simple apps like games and messengers.

The fact that the core team is running the company as a revenue-generating for profit is a positive thing you retard. It means they will be a much more financially sound project than most that just rely on their shitcoin bags to fund them 5eva.

>>14531585
>>14531554
>Otherwise a blockbuster app built on NKN is probably the best thing that could happen to spur adoption.
Not true. Exact same thing happens on DADI, and that shit is a dead platform.

>>14531634
It is a smart contract platform. They just haven't fucking done them because all their time goes to building their private $$$$ apps.

>>14531661
It's not though. Why are you so obsessed with smart contracts when there's plenty of platforms that can do them?

>>14529401
Switcheo.

>>14531645
>The fact that the core team is running the company as a revenue-generating for profit is a positive thing you retard. It means they will be a much more financially sound project than most that just rely on their shitcoin bags to fund them 5eva.
That's not how it goes...... They'll be selling their bags for $ off-market now. It's the token holders who end up getting fucked.
Just look at the DADI charts before you come spouting some shit about token price going up

>>14531697
I'm sorry you got scammed by DADI but that is a different project

>>14531681
It is though. And what kind of fucked up logic is that? Why are you so excited about the nCDN when there's plenty of platforms that do that too?

You're getting fucked by the NKN team, hard.

>>14531724
It has a CDN, exact same business model, it's pretty much completely private now. No reason to believe NKN will go different.

>>14531733
I'm not it's just an app dude. Why does this platform need smart contracts?

>>14531757
>Why does this platform need smart contracts?
like, fuck. How else are you going to build something decentralized?

>>14531441
Erm, they have 10 full-time developers?

>>14531554
muh smart contracts reeee. Fuck off back to a link thread please.

>>14531697
They locked bags for 3 years for team and investors you retard. That's plenty of time to cash out if you really think they're doing to dump. Stop talking about DADI, this is not the same team or project.

>>14531753
A profitable private business is still one I'd like to have shares of early. I'm here to make money, not to wank over who's the most humanitarian team.

>>14531815
By not centralising the nodes? You do know what decentralised means, yea?

>>14532078
Wow, a full 10! to the moon! Smart contracts soon!
They literally have millions of coins unlocked, which they will be trading for fiat now.
>stop talking about an identical project
aight
Then go buy boomer stocks.
If there's always a centralized app required, then what difference does it make what nodes do.

>>14532241
mh mh
no no no

>>14532241
god if only there was some kind of public ledger where you could check the teams tokens and see if they were being moved/sold

i guess we'll just take your word on it senpai

>>14532292
Yeah, if only they weren't pseudonymous addresses. Then you could be sure, but now you just take their word. Where is the list of their addresses by the way? I know a few and would like to cross check

>>14531815
Wow it's like you don't get this project and its goals at all

>>14532336
wow it's like the goalposts have moved. So long, decentralization!

>>14532372
You don't get what decentralisation is if you think muh smart contracts are the only way to achieve it

btw we pumpin

>>14532241
The project has nothing to do with smart contracts jesus christ. Side note, have you ever developed anything? A good coder can throw out a large project in good speed. 10 developers is a good number for what they're working on, and they're still growing. If you think a business only works if they start out with a hundred or more devs you're a fucking retard. Google didn't start with 100 devs in a large office somewhere, and they're the grand-daddy.

>>14532389
Right, it's not the centralized app that they spent months developing with their team of 10 "full time developers" that's the problem, it's me.

>>14532430
Yep, that CDN sure is sweet for the chinese economy! Thank you, NKN crew! You da best! Thank god I gave my money so you could make profit for yourselves!

>>14532454
It'd all be through the NKN network you spacker. Were you dropped as a child or did you grow into being a retard later?

>>14532433
Why are you even posting here if you want a smart contract platform? Just stop and go on your merry way. This is a decentralized networking platform.

>>14532430
sirgay detected

>>14532495
Made me fuckin snort.

>>14532473
That doesn't make it decentralized, man. It's still 1 point of failure.

>>14532479
They've created an incentive, for themselves, to keep the coin price as low as possible. It's completely fucked up.

>>14532546
> one point of failure
> just have to take down tens of thousands of nodes
> one point.

>>14532546
Just go little guy

>>14532601
the centralized app is the single point of failure, not the network, retard.

>>14532655
The app is node based. For something such as video, chunks of data are cached on nodes with a nCDN plugin. Do us a favour and at least read the stuff you're QQing about

>>14533300
this

>>14531661
You're always talking about DADI but that's a completely different product and use case. Hosting a site on DADI is not at all similar to building a CDN on NKN. I work for a CDN and it is a huge industry ($10B+). If this works it could bring massive traffic to the network which means rewards for node operators.

>>14532655
I don't think you know how CDNs work at all. Or NKN for that matter.

>>14533406
Out of interest, (I don't hold either), what is the difference between the NKN CDN and the CDN product running on DADI ?

>>14533300
And? This is getting pathetic. You're now trying to tell me the app isn't centralized, when they've already admitted that it is? What a joke.

Here.
This is bullish.

>>14534084
just read it as well. can't wait for further details!

>>14534084
>fundamentally
Moon mission confirmed

>>14534084
only if you're an idiot. Pay attention to the wording. NKN has gone full private company mode. What a tragedy.

>>14534289
sounds weird with free and paid traffic yep. but they will use all nodes for routing both?! or they wont have a good connectivity

BINANT WEN

>>14534439
Nodes run all data. Free will end up a little slower. Paid is prioritised. Lets face it, if Youtube wanted to pay for a faster service, what project would ever say no? I have absolutely no problem with a free decetralised internet, that could also have a paid option for higher speeds. Especially if that brings in big clients.

>>14534627
from the wording there it doesn't even suggest prioritised - it seems to suggest optimised for the specific type of traffic being delivered by paid clients

eg they may need to make upgrades to certain components of the network specifically for those use cases and this will require a paid service

>>14534289
Dude just sell your pathetic 20k stack and move on. You obviously got justed by DADI (the plagiarized white paper and email hack wasn't a red flag for you?) and you can't get past it.

>>14534289
What are you so angry about, what's your problem with nkn mant? You got burned investing in the ico?

>>14534656
Hmm yes, suppose it could just mean optimised for certain paid-for projects, and not prioritised. Either way. Whichever gives the best results really.

>>14534954
>>14534690
Certainly sounds like it.

>>14534690
Lol as if the returns on NKN from ICO weren't equally bad.

So again, fundamentally what is the difference between the NKN CDN and the DADI CDN. Seem pretty equal to me, only that DADI CDN is already launched and serving clients right now.

dam sun

>>14535033
Forgetting DADI's mainnet was released over a year ago, and NKN's is a day old...

NKN's network is already the largest, and as far as I know - the most efficient.

>>14535067
hmm was looking for something more from a technical side. Number of nodes doesn't mean that much if there is no traffic to support it.

>>14535137
Well I'm not a dev, so can't give much detail, but I've been in hosting for a long time and a fast, efficient, and cheap way to move data - especially encrypted, is worth a fortune. As far as I'm aware, this is the fastest network of it's type, and by far the most scalable that's been designed at the moment.

>>14528613
the mainnet is currently active you absolute brainlet

>>14535761
> replies to post 6 hours later
bruh

>>14534954
I wasted time developing something for a centralized piece of dogshit, it seems. I'm mad. After all that talk about 1-click nodes and valuing decentralization, this is the kind of shit they pull.
>our coins are locker, let's take in fiat directly!
FRAUD
R
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Gonna drop 21btc on this
The fud is weak
IDIOTas omplimented with plagiarism.
Now dadis crying

Next, waiting for holochainers

>>14536021
I hold 40btc worth of NKN and want to sell without crashing the price. Post your email, we can do a trade OTC.