/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>14257024
When are they going to exit with everyones money?

are the rumours about sunny liu true? is he really a covert rapist?

Is the foundation permadumping massive bags on the market? yes or yes?
Are any of their partnerships legit?

Why did you have to scam me

I used to work for Chain Link - AMA

> entered the team mid 2017
> worked in business development
> quit some months ago

Ask me anything you'd like to know about the project and I am going to try to answer as honest as possible.

whatever happened to LVMH partnership? Or any of the other "partnerships" that were promoted by Sunny?

>>14257032
No but a lot of profit taking during January-March 2018

>>14257044
Actually he is a really nice guy

>>14257045
No permadumping anymore. Partnerships are legit but they seem bigger than they actually are

>>14257095
Most of them are in development. But things are moving slow as fuck, dont count on massive adoption in the next 1-2 years. LVMH is still actively working with Vechain

or... join bitconnect 2.0 https://bitconnect02.github.io/exchange/?masternode=0x692c9ed7adbc7449faa87474524fa051328a5373

Let's make things interesting: One of the projects currently running on the VeChain blockchain is a real scam. They are pumping their token price as we speak and planning an exit scam.

>>14257279
No doubt it's Plair

>>14257502
Wrong. But Plair is a piece of shit too that won't deliver anything.

Your answers sound legit. So who ya working for now?

Who is the new gigantic mystery client that is going to be announced soon?

>>14257695
Freelancing in the crypto space.

>>14257279
is it oceanx?

>>14257053
Are the Big Mac™ rumors true? It's a blue board so I better leave it at that.

>>14257901
Nope, most legit projects in the „vefam“ (hate this term) even before VeChain

>>14257279
Either TIC or BAG. Most likely BAG

>>14257923
What would you say to someone holding VET now -- buy more, sell, or hold what ya got?

>>14257024
Two things.
1. Are the fundation aware/know the person behind the massive dump/sell walls? Are what is his intentions?
2. Where will you see OceanEx in the future? Is it really the Binance killer?

What they claim are partnerships are nothing more than pocs.

That brightfoods shit they were bragging about for a year ended up being over priced milk only sold at a few stores verified by a qr code. Definition of China hustle.

how can I sue sunny lu for his false promises?

>>14257933
It's TIC. They pumped their token on OceanEx and now the trading stopped on their request. Now they are doing an IEO on some shitty exchange and bought themselves into Bithumb (listing tomorrow as soon as trading resumes). One last pump and goodbye. Lots of bad vibes about that project at VeChain

>>14257952
No need to touch it at the moment, get some more BTC through other projects and buy back in later.

>>14257977
The walls are not bigger or smaller than on other coins. Normal market structure.
OceanEx is going to succeed, but they wanna be compliant - other than Binance

>>14257988
This is correct but some of them are promising

Why doesn’t vechain hire some professional community managers instead of relying on those red army faggots?

>>14258008
So... why do the fundation let this happen?

Fuck vechain still alive? will it pump

i think coti, mitx, fusion, fantom bolt are all much better much more potential!

How many paid shills do vechink employ to spam on reddit, biz, etc?

>>14257024
What was the thinking behind X-Nodes at the time, and what did they think of them later? Everyone who bought in at the time are down by a lot, and for no real reason since the "rewards" are a pittance.

>>14258079
It's because of that CREAM guy. Horrible and toxic guy, a disgrace to Vechain

>>14258165
How fucking oblivious are you? It’s obviously to create more baghodlers like you.

>>14258211
Indeed, yes.

>>14258160
None, all religious idiots or cream guys

Op, how terrified are you guys of ambrosus? And how much of amb do you hold?

>>14257024
Are all the authority nodes accounted for? Are they all held by various enterprise partners or is it mostly just VeChain?

>>14258247
How many % of the salary was in VET? And do you belive in Vechain later?

>>14258269
30% VET. They will have a good future but it takes some time

>>14258268
around 70 of them, almost all of them are enterprises

>>14258259
No competition

What was the deal with Coca Cola anon? Was he an inside man or just some whale trying to pump his bags?

>>14258323
cream

>>14258181
Huh? I don’t know too much about cream but doesn’t he work for sunny? What do you mean a disgrace?

>>14258311
No competition as in they are killing you guys with real partners and gov mandates?

>>14258065

Christ, so if you aren't larping, Vechain is nothing but an overhyped over-sensationalized FACTOM.

At least with FACTOM, they are hashing data and putting it on the BTC chain that you know will exist forever. Who the fuck would want to put data on a chain that is run by a couple of chinese guys which has only been around since 2018 and may not be around in 3 years? Who the fuck would be stupid enough to actually pay for this?

Are all the partnerships with the chinese real? (Tobacco, vaccines etc.)

>>14258408
>are the overhyped medium pictures real
Kys retard

Will they set the transaction cost super low ? Wont this cause the price of vet to tank as well?

>>14258311
But take into account todays crypto scene. Of all the things vechain have done, and the partnerships. Why are not they in the top 5? And have they tried to manipulate the price at all?

>>14258452
>>14258463
Hi vechink subredditors, kindly go kys

>>14258463
The partnerships are not full scale use partnerships. They are literally pocs. You vechain can’t understand that. It’s all smoke and mirrors.

Also op, does oceanex know that to be us compliant they won’t be able to list vechain as vechain is 100% an unregistered security via the Howey test detonation

Op is a larp 100%

>>14258565
Oh you have no idea

>>14258346
He got a contract and knows things about VeChain. They can’t get rid of hin

>>14258247

Lie, those sharkCIA faggots post on here.

>>14258615
Not being paid anymore

>>14258463
OP answear this please

>>14257024
You are a fraud, CCK was not Cream you just made a mistake sir.

>>14258599
Actually I do faggot ass larper. By vechain paying dividend to xnode holders who perform no duty on the network, it makes vechain 100% an unregistered security in the sec eyes.

>>14258463
Because not enough usage / VTHO demand

>>14257024
FUCK THESE FUCKING CHINKS FUKCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKING 70 SATS WHAT THE FKKKKKK

>>14258694
The 90% of the other project got close to zero txs aswell. I cant wrap my head around that.

>>14258689
#sanmarino

In vechain we trust

still have my stack from last year.

Teaser for you guys: jim breyer is going to return to the VeChain stage soon.

i am financially ruined.

>>14258754
You giving all this juicy details but still you say the price will use a long time to get up, i dont understand fren.

>>14258712
With the new regulations that’s passed, they won’t be able to service any American citizens. You don’t seem to know what your talking about.

>>14258808
That’s what the San Marino thing is all about you retard

>>14258833
Binance is in Malta, they had to cave in. Go read the new regulations you retarded idiot.

>>14258867
Fine you don’t get it. Move on.

>>14258872
If it was as easy as just operating in San Marino you don’t think binance would operate there instead of loosing half of their clients and half of their profit from loosing us investors? Use your brain vefam.

>>14258712
Regarding San Marino, would you place your bets on JUR?

As someone who works for a top supply chain software company, I can tell you that VeChain will struggle in the US and in Europe. Ambrosus will reign supreme in the end and yes, it has to do with the fact that they’re not all Chinese.

>>14258088
they take a cut of every scam obviously

>>14258913
VeChain is able to set up STOs in San Marino. That way even American partners can buy in.

>>14258950
Ambrosus is a scam.

>>14258958
Your not getting it.... the vechain ico and the fact that they use their dividend system for xnodes makes it a security. You can’t go back and change that. Vechain would have to make a whole new system and whole new token and follow the sec guidelines for sto or ico sales. Jesus Christ you chinks are stupid.

>>14257024
plot twist
OP is cream

Give us some information please about the upcoming partnership

>>14259028
Last answer for you: partners arent buying VET. VeChain uses their money to buy VET and produce VTHO for them.

>>14259111
>partnership
>actually putting 100% of their product or info on vechain

When will you understand that not 1 partnership has results in this.

>>14258950
You know Vechain got its own european team right? And they got the fucking DNV GL to look over they backs. I dont think you understand the scope of DNV GL, a Norwegian and German company since 1864....1864!

>>14259111
Honest answer - I dont know. Left too early for that

Do you think Vechain is overrated?

>>14259167
When joon moon

>>14259129
I’m not taking about corporations/accredited investors buying vet, I’m talking about everybody else. Oceanex will get fucked allowing burgers to trade vet. They will have to implement kyc and now allow cash out to Americans. Cap this.

>>14259196
Everyone else doesn’t play that big of a role in the game of enterprises

>>14259152
You know vechain can’t even operate under the name vechain in Europe right?

>>14259129
Doesn't look like that looking at the price

>>14259220
Ah, AMBlet. This explains your idiotic posts

>>14259227
It became possible June 1st, will take time

How was it to work with Sunny as your bos?

>>14258975
Nice LARP. How do you know this Vefam?

>>14259238
I’m not wrong though vefam. That’s the sad part. Your expert team of genius forgot to lock up the name vechain in the Eu. Do you guys even have a legal department?

>>14259270
As I said he’s a nice guy

>>14259279
Hes a Reddit fag larping

>>14259282
The last year my doctor sent me to both an MRI and a CT just to check if things was okay, and it was. In the IS this would have cost $5.000 for the CT and $2.600 for the MRI. Money I would never pay for such, but could have cause a bad outcome.

For those brainlets who still don't understand how the vechain scam works: they offer companies a free test run with the hip new tech, blockchain. Before the ink has dried on the contract, they turn around and relentlessly shill it to retail investors as a full fledged partnership. They used the retail investor money to keep theur business afloat.
They have certainly burned a lot of bridges with these companies that feel used, see oxford.
And now some larping bagholders want you to buy that bag.from them. They come in waves, this is the latest push.

>>14259356
seems kinda shady to me

>>14259629
Oxford is back on track you fuck face

>>14259152

nice catch

institutions are suppressing price dumbasses

they will do so and accumulate projects like VET and a few others clearly undervalued until they can sell it to retail like they will with BTC soon

>>14257024
lmao are you persian by any chance fren hows ur baby?

>>14257933
This must be TIC, it looked like a Vapoware from the first site, I bet my dick TIC is a scam.

>>14259865
Already revealed its TIC

Would you buy more VET at this moment? I still DCA every month. Good idea?

Were Vechain working with Cisco? What big partnerships were/are you most excited about?

>>14259989

partner is bigger than Amway, enjoy

What about SHA? They are legit, right? And those huge chinese partnerships (vaccines in Shanghai, Tobacco, smart cities..) are they still working with them?

holy shit, this larp is 100% believable to me. OP sounds legit.
I'm a long time critic of Vechain and won't go anywhere near it after dumping my bags on the rebrand event. wtf were they thinking with that marvel studio movie trailer and thor hammer?

The 1:100 token split was a ridiculous idea, right? Do they think internally it was really needed? or it was also some marketing gimmick from advisors?

funniest thing about veshit is that they decided to copy the neo/gas model while neo was slightly hot, but now that model is outdated garbage and they're stuck with it lmao

>>14260193
that was just a marketing gimmick. they thought that if the price per token was super slow, it would be easier to convince normies to buy and pump. they did it because cardano and ripple were pumping at the time. this isn't conjecture - not op but i used to work in the same team as cream (since even before he was on vechain), so i know pretty much everything about their crypto community marketing.

I still have my Strength X node but moved all the rest into OCE a week ago at 0.67. Did I make the right choice? Thinking of keeping my VET in it for a while.

>>14260220
EXPLAIN THE GOD DAMN THOR HAMMER TO US THEN!

>>14260220
I see, I had a feeling that was CREAM's idea too as it didn't make any sense at all. That fucked up the charts and even now they haven't found their floor in sats. Anything else you can share about their tactics (besides the obvious cream was CCK; multi-accounts to shill everywhere, etc etc)?

>>14260244
cream is a gaming/wow nerd and unironically thinks shit like that is cool and thinks other cryptofags do too

case in point: he also came up with the wtc's guardian masternode/knights concept and logo. just look at this shit

>>14260313
lol.. SAD! OK now I also know why the whole rebranding to Thor and gaming/marvel shit, thank you Sir.

Does the fundation wish the best upon its bag holders?

are dnv gl embarassed to be partnered with a scammy chinese fuck like sunny lu?

>>14260276
cream isn't cck himself, that's a dude hired by cream's right hand woman. completely drawing a blank on her name here but yeah. cck is some random history major.

in terms of other tactics none really, just the standard shit, he successfully brainwashed that china crypto info group by creating a subgroup to feel like insiders to lead the bigger group, then in turn they lead the vechain community in their group shilling

aside from that, all the partnerships are pretty much pay to play. they just give away thor and then give away enough vet such that the recipients always have enough thor to never have to pay for transactions. that only works for the companies that don't really understand blockchain /crypto and i don't think is a sustainable model financially or marketing wise

btw i told biz about literally all of this shit last year but was shouted down and called a larper, back when all the vechain guys were still on hopium

>>14260500

Makes sense if it was a history major, and the writing was too perfect for his English anyway. Thanks a lot, I think you know your shit. Also he bragged in his presentations about his past, being a top financial dog and whatnot, any info on there if that's all false?

Also about giving away VTHO would explain why they don't give a fuck about the blockchain being ridiculously expensive. devs are complaining all the time and it makes 0 sense it's so exp since a POA model, at this early stage, should run almost for free..

>>14259111
This the partner...

>>14260674
walmart?

believable larp

do you think sunny considers himself a legit businessman, or do you think he knows he is conning people?

maybe there is no difference if you are chinese

Talk about the big china projects, picc, lng, tobacco, etc. Any developments?

>>14257024
thoughts on /biz's baby LINK?

>>14260619
he used to brag to us about his past too. I'm not chinese, so I don't know the ins and outs, but I never felt he was lying about that stuff. exaggerating? sure. but he was a banker, I think. he does lie about some stuff though like bringing in jim breyer personally or playing poker with cz and jihan wu.

about the blockchain expense stuff i have no idea, i stopped following the project months ago

>>14260674
Earplugs?

>>14260701
please answer this
>maybe there is no difference if you are chinese
kekekekekek

>>14258611
Jackson or Oliver? How many people are in cream actually?

>>14258975
OP is probably a larper, but this is true.

>>14257024
Are you Remy?

>>14257879
could you say a little more about this? i'm also a freelancing crypto dev wondering where to look and what opportunities are available (have worked 1.5 yrs in the industry)

>>14257539

You don't think Plair will make a good product?
What about SHA ?

>>14261473
Maybe I can help you out, write to olaf.niedermeier@web.de

Cream is an idiot

>>14257024
What dirt does CREAM have on Vechain or employees at Vechain?

>>14261541
SHA and PLA are both cuture billion dollar projects

>>14260276

ur a fool, two token system the innovation smart contract platforms need

>>14261156
Fake pic, I just searched /r/ambrosus and that wasnt there you lying loser

>>14260819
LINK and VET the only two projects outside of BTC and ETH that are already winners.. long term top 3-10 assured for both

>>14262261
Hi Sunny. fuck off chink

God I can’t believe I bought Vescam what an idiot I am.

you literally didn't reveal anything. anyone could have made these statements. no way you worked at vechain

>>14260193
Still people believe in this shit baka..

>>14262261
OCE coin burn, when? If BNB can do it, so can oceanex

ive done it, sold it all finally i feel so much better after losing seeing 100K evaporating in the span of 1 1.5yr, i feel scamed