/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>14239761
I personally think that Zcash will moon harder b/c of available fiat on ramps. However, I am not sure which is technically more private.

is zcash AML compliant?

>>14239761
future? i don't know. next month or two? zcash moon.

>>14239761
Zcash
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>>14239761
i just sold that and unironically went in on bitconnect.io

>>14239761
if you want more privacy then its XMR
you want to be rich then its ZEC
simple as that anon

>>14239853
That seems to be what the sentiment that I generally see, but can you explain why?

Both coins market themselves to be the most private, but what makes one better?

Is there any truth to the backdoor in zcash?

Mfw zcash had inflation bug for a year and nobody knows if it has been abused and if someone is sitting on a gazillion zcash.
Mfw monero is centralized and hark forks every few months so the devs are 1 million percent in control of the monetary supply.
Mfw you actually think there wont be privacy on btc, or dont know how to use wasabi wallet to mix ur coins, or think lightning has no privacy.
Mfw you are playing the shitcoin roullette when the only tru inovation is btc.

>>14239761
Neither one is actually private, so I'll pick zion cash as it has the smaller supply

>>14239761
Nerva
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>>14239761
Zcash tech is superior but it comes with its own dowside. the supply isn't auditable so if someone finds some kind of bug to mint extra coins, no one will know.

the real downside of zec: anual inflation rate is 30%. its not an interesting buy for some more time to come.

xmr inflation is lower than bitcoins right now so.

>>14239761
BEAM

Who needs privacy coins when a certain project that has been rarely shilled here has solved that problem.

>>14239878
Technology in blockchain (not MW which will be the future) then Zcash is the best tech in the game today, not a single coin out there is remotely close
Zcash gives the option to be private or not, its backed by Gemini, Wall Street and kikes in general, so its only a matter of time before it pops

Monero is more private by default since its private transactions period. Doesnt have the fiat-ramps like ZEC does and this is a disadvantage

Supply wise ZEC is lower (under 7 million coins today) but has a higher inflation rate of course but this will a non issue later as most of these coins will have similar supply

i have 250 XMRs and 250 ZECs
i dont favor one over the other i just look at facts

i personally think ZEC will do better in the long run (thats my opinion and doesn't make it a fact) but i bought similar amounts as a hedge in case one pops and the other tanks

you do whatever you think is right anon and best wishes

>>14239944
The biggest downside to Zcash is that scammer Peter Todd was the guy they picked for the trusted setup ceremony

>>14239953
>Who needs a comment when he says nothing at all?

zec dev unironically said they could build a backdoor if needed. if that’s not enough for you...

>>14239893
Buttcoin really is the Bethesda of unstable internet money

>>14240001
almost no one cares. people want gains.

>>14240241
this, lol

>>14239985
Thanks anon. Im thinking of steadily building a similar stack of zcash.

>>14240619
things to keep in mind.... FACTS
both XMR & ZEC have been around the same price for a long time
the recent ZEC pump is due to a fork thats coming up next month
keep that in mind and best wishes anon

>>14240727
Fork? can you tell me more about that? I was planning on buying around $2.5k worth of zcash this week

>>14239988
what scam did he do never heard of this

>>14240744
theres a fork thats happening around July 15th, depending on the blocks but should around mid July
u might wanna buy now and dump right before the snapshot.......thats gauranteed gainz til then
hold til next year if you want to be a millionaire

>>14240770
I don't need the gainz immediately. I just want to accumulate zcash or monero and ride out the next wave. What is a good stack goal to achieve?

>>14240792
i believe 100 will make you a millionaire by end of 2020 early 2021
5 coins are mainly used today on the DNM
1. BTC
2. LTC
3. XMR
4. DASH
5. ZEC
in that order

ZEC slowly creeping up and increasing MC and i think it will eventually be DASH,XMR& ZEC since they can be private and the others
cant as of today

again best wishes anon

>>14240881
hmm, sounds like I still have some time to accumulate. I think I can hit 50 zec in acouple of months, but not if the price spikes.

Can you tell me more about the fork and what its purpose is? Do you have a wallet that you recommend? I have a nano ledger, will that work?

>>14240881
uhm last time i checked dash was being used more than xmr for dnms.

>>14239761

Litecoin

>>14240958
its up n down
BTC is still king by a mile but i think that will start changing soon as BTC is not private by default

>>14240933
good coins - open source will always get forked, thats the nature of the beast

the point of the fork is to decrease miners rewards, i am not really following and dont really care about the forked coins

>>14240881
People that don't use the DNMs tend to imagine DNM users as being super security conscious, but in fact 90% of them are functionally retarded and buy with BTC straight from coinbase. So the fact that you can buy ZEC on coinbase is really helpful if it were to become more widely accepted by vendors.

>>14239761
monero has a shit track record. look at all these recent security bugs
https://hackerone.com/monero/hacktivity

>>14241127
Bingo
thats where things are headed and thats why i believe ZEC will outperform XMR and most privacy coins

its on CB, Gemini and has a lot more fiat ramp than most of the privacy coins

also add the kike factor and this is all but guaranteed moon mission

>>14241155
>its on CB, Gemini and has a lot more fiat ramp than most of the privacy coins
this is ultimately what matters for moon.
the more fiat on raps the more moon potential

>>14239761
BUMP FOR CONTINUED DISCUSSION

>>14239761
bump

>>14239761
unironically ethereum
https://medium.com/argenthq/introducing-hopper-mobile-web-friendly-privacy-for-ethereum-d02a8c400dad
not saying hopper is the actual replacement, it's very limited early alpha, but it's the sign of things to come soon. Neither monero nor zcash have any chance to survive competition with zk-snark mixers for all erc20 tokens (including weth).

>>14242500
I thought zec has zk-snark?

>>14239761
zcash, jp morgan, jews coinbase the trifecta of money making

>>14242500
>implying optional, side chain privacy or mixers are a threat
Still the king

bumping with a little clue of what's to come:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9OGAwt_f_c

>>14239761
The One True King

Snowden like zcash. The investigation saying unknown amount of monero was a lie. Zcash, snowdens choice, was really the untraceable one. Monero is honeypot

I am ed

>>14244432
>open source honeypot
Okay.

>>14239761
monero.
it has several layers of privacy, which are used in every transaction.
it has a dynamic block size.
the inflation is lower than that of bitcoin.
open source.
active community and development.
downside: lot of paid fud is going on. the wikipedia article is manipulated to the worse.

>>14244808
How open source is 51%

>>14245117
Never trust Wikipedia.
Proof: Just try editing the seth rich page and suggesting the Russians were not responsible.

You will be banned, harassed, attacked so quickly, and they will demand you suck so much cock before even thinking of unbanning you.

>>14245389
yes wikipedia is lost.

You're welcome.

obligatory

Nerva

>>14239853
lol. well said. lock thread

>>14240001
this
period

>>14245452
this

the fact that there even a thread about this is sad. monero won the debate the second it started.

>>14245143
Try that again in English.

>>14245143
are you confusing open source projects with 51% miner attacks?

monero hasnt ever been 51% attacked and open source has nothing to do with 51% attacks, rakeesh

>>14239761
this link and my image is all you need to know to make an educated decision.
https://twitter.com/zooko/status/863202798883577856?lang=en

>>14245452
>>14246659
emission rate is not attractive for speculators