/biz/ - Business & Finance

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>>13962021
>died in the middle of movie night
wow, just wow

old thread reached bump limit?

>>13962064
yuppers
image limit is 100 i think, and thread only had 85

apparently no one likes to make new threads anymore

>>13962112
how ironic that it came down to me

Why is Trump being a dick to the pajeets now? What did they do?

buy tesla please

>>13962162
What did he do now?

>>13962190
no lmao

>>13962196
Also, if we are going isolationist, how do i hedge for this potentiality?

>>13962209
PLEASE IT'LL BOUNCE ANY DAY NOW

>>13962196
He pulled their developing country status so now their goods are subject to tariffs.

Remember to buy Tesla stock.

The Financial Stability Oversight Council, a panel of top U.S. regulators charged with preventing future financial crises, met Thursday to discuss the past decade's surge in corporate borrowing, much of it by companies with junk-grade credit rating. An economic downturn likely would bring a wave of credit-rating downgrades and debt defaults that could ripple across markets.

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>>13962480
U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Thursday led a secret meeting of top U.S. financial regulators on the risks to global markets from the recent surge in corporate borrowing -- a growing concern as fears mount that the economy might be headed for a slowdown or a recession.

The Financial Stability Oversight Council, formed in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis to prevent a repeat, met "in executive session," or behind closed doors, according to a statement released by the Treasury Department's public-affairs unit following the meeting.

Members of the group include Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell as well as the heads of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Securities and Exchange Commission and Commodity Futures Trading Commission.

> According to the statement the panel heard an "update" from Craig Phillips, a counselor to Mnuchin, on recent market developments involving "corporate credit and leveraged lending."

>>13962489
Leveraged lending is the financial industry's term for the practice of making loans to companies with poor credit ratings, colloquially known as junk. Historically, the market was dominated by banks, but in recent years investment firms and other non-bank lenders joined in; the outstanding amount of the loans has mushroomed over the past decade to about $1.2 trillion, eclipsing the more-established junk-bond market.

There's also been a surge in borrowing by companies with triple-B ratings, which rank just above junk but could face dire downgrades if an economic slowdown shrinks profits for those borrowers. That category of debt has climbed to an unprecedented level of more than $3 trillion, according to Standard & Poor's, sparking warnings from officials including Robert Kaplan, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas.

> The concern is that if the economy falters, loan losses would climb dramatically and other companies would be more likely to default on their outstanding bonds.
> "Credit stresses are multiplying," analysts at Bank of America, the second-biggest U.S. lender, wrote last week in a report.
> "Reduced risk appetite leads to restricted capital access, which in turn has the potential to set the stage for elevated distress and eventual defaults."

In recent days, yields on 10-year U.S. Treasury notes have slipped below those on shorter-term bills and notes -- an unusual phenomenon known as a "yield-curve inversion" since investors usually demand higher returns to compensate for the extra risk that comes with a longer payback period. It's often seen as a classic sign of an impending recession.

>>13962498
> The borrowing binge by U.S. companies has garnered so much attention from investors lately that Powell, the Fed chairman, devoted an entire speech to the topic on May 20. He said there's currently a "moderate" risk that business debt triggers a full-blown financial crisis, although "the level of debt certainly could stress borrowers if the economy weakens."
> "Once again, we see a category of debt that is growing faster than the income of the borrowers even as lenders loosen underwriting standards," Powell said.
> The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, a branch of the Treasury Department that supervises national banks, wrote in a May 20 report that "years of growth, incremental easing in underwriting, risk layering and building credit concentrations result in accumulated risk."

The corporate-lending surge has been fueled by firms like Blackstone (BX - Get Report) and Apollo Global Management (APO - Get Report) , which rely on junk-grade loans to finance the acquisitions they make through their private-investment funds.

In recent years, the firms have also waded into the corporate-lending business themselves and they now routinely package junk loans into new bonds known as "collateralized loan obligations," or CLOs -- some with pristine triple-A ratings that can be easily sold on to investors with promises of attractive yields.

Apparently bilibili have to change their app launch screen. They can no longer "cheers" which was part of an old slogan on the site
Top is original bottom is new launch screen
Also they have to change the name of some series, like Tenshi no 3P" become "Tenshi no three pieces", "Kill Me Baby become "Chu Mi Baby" using phonetically translation, "Shigofumi: Letters from the Departed" become just "Stories of Last Letter" the secondary part of the series title in English

>>13962508
Indeed, with U.S. banks facing tighter scrutiny over the past decade, the private-equity industry has had almost free rein to take over a bigger portion of the financial markets. The five biggest private-equity firms, including Powell's former employer, Carlyle Group, now manage some $1.37 trillion of client money overall, based on a tally by TheStreet.

> Mnuchin and other Treasury officials have proposed to exempt these "non-bank firms" from getting designated as "systemically important" -- a label that would subject them to much tougher oversight. Instead, regulators would supervise the firms' "activities."

> According to Thursday's statement, the oversight council "heard a presentation from Treasury staff" on public comments submitted in response to Mnuchin's proposal.

The presentation wasn't released, but the comments are publicly available on a government website. They include a May 13 letter to Mnuchin from the American Investment Council, the main U.S. trade association for private-equity firms, advocating for the exemption.

Yet there's still powerful opposition -- from the likes of former Treasury secretaries Timothy Geithner and Jacob Lew as well as former Fed chairs Ben Bernanke and Janet Yellen.

"Regulation, of course, carries burdens for individual firms, but these consequences have to be measured against the tragic and indiscriminate costs of a crisis," they wrote to Mnuchin and Powell in a joint letter, also dated May 13.

https://www.thestreet.com/markets/as-recession-warnings-flash-top-officials-meet-in-secret-over-junk-loan-frenzy-14977371

>>13962517
why is beer such a big part of bili branding? Is it because bili sounds like "biri" which sounds like "beer" with a chinese accent?

>>13962517
This logo is much less fun... but an understandable change.

Actually, that wouldn't fly in the US either. If the Crunchyroll lady were swilling beer people would probably object, as little babbies use crunchy to watch that show about the yelling pirate, and that other one about naruto's kid

>>13962530
You didn't have to paste the entire article, anon.

>>13962632
Yes I did because I usually clean my history and forget stuff and then I search 4chan archives if I posted it in there ( ._.)

l-let's all buy and write as many puts as we can on monday!
We can do it!

>>13962573
You can watch these two music video that symbolized the concept:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av221107
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av221106
Borrowing the words from the song's creator, It "represented out culture and ideal, filled with our memory and emotion"
But as the platform have been continually sanitized for both political and copyright reason, and as the company increasingly becoming like a big media platform instead of just a small video site for passionate fans creator to share their own fan-made video, there are some old users who think the website have already departed from its original ideal.

>>13962632

I like it. Read bruv

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-06/02/c_138110404.htm?from=groupmessage&isappinstalled=0

Full text: China's Position on the China-US Economic and Trade Consultations

>>13962021
SPY go up or down on Monday?
This is crucial to my options prices.

>>13962753
doubt.jpg

>>13962696
>https://www.bilibili.com/video/av221107
Chinese heroes of the past?
Were these gentlemen known for drinking? Did they have a fondness for eachother?

>>13962162
>>13962319
sauce me up on this, not seeing any stories on my typical news outlets

>>13962780
The two are Stalin and Hitler

>>13962780
>sauce me up on this, not seeing any stories on my typical news outlets
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/31/business/trump-india-trade.html

>>13962775
maybe a slight hint at what china will target? though I think targeting integrated circuits and higher level technology will hurt China a lot.

What's /biz/'s opinion on LK (Luckin Coffee) from it's IPO?

Big fan of this edition

>>13962810
bugmen are salty lol

>>13962791
Yes... that's what I thought. They are shown here being friendly towards eachother, and it appears to be a very flattering depiction.

...Yet the two sent countless men to die in a war between them, and are considered two of the most brutal tyrants of history.

Does modern Chinese culture, or the ruling communist party of China, consider them to be great men, and think of them fondly?

>>13962810
>>13962822

China already knows that the game is up in regards to accessing chips from American designers, so why not cripple the American manufacturing capacity of these chips in retaliation?

Apple will absolutely shit itself if they cut off rare earth metals, because they have the double or tripple whammy of;

1. Their existing supply chain being shot to pieces in China.

2. Losing the Chinese market for the Iphone.

3. Having to spend megabux on setting up manufacturing in another country on what is a declining markets (smartphones).

If Apple ever got slaughtered, the bull market is done.

>>13962810
I think it is just trying to persuade America to accept China's condition on trade deal by saying China is a important customer to many American industries. Airplanes, basedbeans, automobiles, IC are all widely discussed in the past year, they have already reduced much of their purchase of American basedbeans due to it, and it is not exactly easy for China to get alternative for American airplanes or IC. (Airbus is now facing production capacity limit). Cotton seems relatively new?

>>13962780

The Chinese loved Stalin. Kruschev's condemnation of Stalin was the start of the Sino-Soviet split in the late 50s.

Very odd video.

>>13962021
Can someone please post the google drive link for the booklist? thx

>>13962862

This document isn't meant for US officials, it's for anyone who can read English who has an interest in the trade war.

Basically, this is China's flex against Trump, telling him to come back to the negotiating table or they'll start to drop American imports and sanctioning US companies.

It's a threat. It's a playbook for outside investors.

>>13962859
There were some meme fanmade video created around the two on the website at the time.
Most Hitler one come from
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hitlers-downfall-parodies
As for
>They are shown here being friendly towards eachother
That is kind of the theme of the video, everyone meet on the site, join together, and smile and love each other to create a lovely and memorable community.

>>13962910
I'll do you one better.

Acceleration bibliography:

>Introductions
Greenspan: Capitalism’s Transcendental Time Machine
Ireland: Poememenon
MacKay & Avanessian: Accelerate reader
Murphy: Ideology, Intelligence and Capital with Nick Land
Overy: Genealogy of Land’s Anti-Anthropocentric Philosophy

>Land
- work published on xenosystems
- Teleoplexy: notes on acceleration
- Kant, Capital and Prohibition of Incest
- Circuitries
- Meltdown
- Machinic Desire
- Dark Enlightenment

>Philosophy
Althusser: On the Reproduction of Capital
Bataille: Reader
Baudrillard: The System of Objects, Mirror of Production, Symbolic Exchange and Death
Bateson: Steps to an Ecology of Mind
Beer: Platform for Change
Benjamin: On the Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction
Bergson: Creative Evolution
Bostrom: Superintelligence
Brassier: Nihil Unbound
CCRU: Writings
Chardin: The Phenomenon of Man
Debord: The Society of the Spectacle
Deleuze: Difference and Repetition
D&G: Capitalism and Schizophrenia, vol I and II, What Is Philosophy
Dupuy: On the Origins of Cognitive Science
Ellul: The Technological Society
Fisher: Capitalist Realism
Foerster: The Beginning of Heaven and Earth Has No Name
Greer: After Progress
Haraway: Cyborg Manifesto
Heidegger: Being and Time, Basic Writings
Hoppe: Democracy
Kant: Critique of Pure Reason
Marinetti: Futurist Manifesto
Marx: Grundrisse, Capital, Fragment on Machines
Mauss: The Gift
McLuhan: Understanding Media
Mises: Human Action
Negarestani: The Labor of the Inhuman
Noys: Malign Velocities
Pepperell: The Posthuman Condition
Plant: Zeroes and Ones

>>13962910
Srnicek & Williams: Manifesto
Rand: Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology
Simondon: On the Mode of Existence of Technical Objects
Stiegler: Technics and Time, Automatic Society
Virilio: The Information Bomb, Speed and Politics
Whitehead: Science and the Modern World
Whitehead: Process and Reality
Wiener: The Human Use of Human Beings
Woodward: On an Ungrounded Earth
Yuk Hui: Digital Objects and Metadata Schemes, The Question Concerning Technology in China, On Automation and Free Time, On the Mode of Existence of Digital Objects, Passing From the Digital to the Symbolic

>Blogs and other things
Bryant: Larval Objects
Hickman: Social Ecologies
Land: Xenosystems
Moldbug: Unqualified Reservations
Nick Szabo: Unenumerated

>Fiction
Gibson: Neuromancer
Stephenson: Snow Crash

>>13963035
> That lack left-accel reading list in "Introduction"

Toss that into trash and read this instead:
https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/

>>13963051
>>13963044

THIS THREAD IS FUCKING PATHETIC!!!

CAN'T EVEN KEEP IT ALIVE!!! HOLY FUCK

FUCKING LOSER STOCK TRADERS!! BITCOIN ALL THE WAY FUCKING LOSERS!!! CRYPTO IS THE FUTURE!!

>MUH 3% GAINS

GET OFF MY BOARD NEWFAGS

>>13963158
Trade margin with 10x leverage then

>>13962862
>cotton
maybe for chinese textile industry?
that is still a big industry in china, right?

>>13962861
Recently saw an article stating that Chinese consumers had not changed their stance on wanting to buy iphones, the iphone fans still want iphones.

Maybe this will change as prices change? Are prices expected to rise?

>>13962970
Yeah... I guess I see that. Ronald McDonald and Colonel Sanders being friends...
but these two are men that did heinous things, and I wouldn't think the Chinese would want them in their funny videos.

Internet culture LOVES hitler though, so maybe that's part of it?

>>13963044 (checked)
>Fiction
>Gibson: Neuromancer
based.
what if I just want to know how to do spreadsheets, maybe a little data science, and understand gov't and corp. debt, QE, housing market, bond market, interest rates, and what this whole DeucheBank crisis is?

>>13963200
> what if I just want to know how to do spreadsheets, maybe a little data science, and understand gov't and corp. debt, QE, housing market, bond market, interest rates, and what this whole DeucheBank crisis is?

Maybe ask a question about those and see if anyone can answer. Thing is depending what people have read they'll have different answers to your questions

>>13963237
>Maybe ask a question about those and see if anyone can answer
Does anyone have a book that can clearly explain... those things I said.

It all seems so strange, I just want it to make sense like chemistry or physics. I want A leads to B leads to C (except in case of D)

>>13963200
>cotton
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Markets/Commodities/Cotton-market-unravels-amid-US-China-tariff-battle
Seems like a rather complicated interdependent relationship

>>13963314
Economy is not like a physical science in that hard causal way, and I mean this as a descriptive statement (this itself is already prejudiced by what I have read)

You can find your hard causal graph economics if you just read Keynes and Fisher. It's just wrong in my opinion.

>>13963318
>https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Markets/Commodities/Cotton-market-unravels-amid-US-China-tariff-battle
More or less what I expected.
US exports raw material, China exports finished product

>>13963334
oh, I know it's not, that was just a silly wish

>>13962021

smg is the best thread on 4chan

>>13963434
I concur. Remember to write calls on Monday anons; you get the best premium for weeklies.

>>13963467
No! Write puts! Really pump that put:call ratio!

>>13963382
This Tyler Durden guy never has good news, never tells me anything nice. Never even gives me any advice except to be very worried because we’re teetering on the edge of the abyss. Some tips would be nice.

>>13963521
It's true he is permabear, but lets be honest this market has only gone up the past decade because of central bank's juicing the market. Who would have thought they could keep up the charade for so long?

>>13963545
Lots of people...

I don’t disagree with your premise, boomer fiscal policy has prepared us for a true JUSTing of epic proportion. But it’s like they say, the market can stay solvent longer than you can stay rational.

I expect the shit to REALLY hit the fan once the boomers can no longer suffer the consequences of their actions.

what exactly happened last week?
looks like shit

>>13963626

>I expect the shit to REALLY hit the fan once the boomers can no longer suffer the consequences of their actions

We were waiting for a market reaction to what effectively amounted to a nationalization of the financial firms in the USA, but the Austrians were wrong: price inflation doesn't automatically happen when you increase your monetary base. All the kikes in the banks took it and put it into securities and wages for real people stagnated.

The boomers were just lucky because they might have been fucked over by 2008-2009, but they would have doubled down in stocks after 2011 and they've been on the gravy train ever since.

Meanwhile, the deflationary effects of low-cost Asian manufacturing was always plowing ahead. Check the prices on TVs and what not from 2009 to now for proof. Anything that couldn't be imported has gone up though, like housing, medical care or legal assistance.

Anyway, the point is that it needed to be an external event outside of America's control for the inflation/recession to be triggered. The Chinese are sharpening their knives to retaliate against the USA, and since the global supply chain is so integrated it's going to be fucking ugly unless one of the players doesn't stand down.

If that happens a nightmare scenario could develop similar to the oil embargo of the 70s, but instead of oil skyrocketing it's consumer goods.

>>as of Friday about 48% of all Euro bonds are negative
EU strong, r-right?

>>13963368
I've read a lot of Austrians and tend to agree with them on economics.
They're a great with money and a fantastic read if you want to understand the dynamics of economy when it's working under ceteris paribus assumptions in theoretical scenarios, something which Keynesian macro ignores. This way you can understand the effects of interventions for example into money supply better, once you understand the actual dynamics that are being infringed upon. So with reading Hayek's production theory you can better understand the wreckage Keynesian demand policies cause.

>>13963626
There's going to be pain likes the which the world has never seen when China will miss 50% of its populace due to lack of fertility.

>>13962861
The schadenfreude I feel from watching a company that trusted bugmen get raked over the coals cannot be overstated. I hope apple has to file for bankruptcy and all the fucking boomers that put their saving in that company die in poverty. Make shit in America or fucking die.

>>13963051
>Did you oppose them in any way?
This dumbass bitch thinks we're partially culpable in any bad thing we didn't try to stop. Yeah, I'm sure everyone on the beach is guilty of a tidal wave hitting because they don't try to stop it. Like, I'm sure that's how guilt works. Imagine reading this fag like he's gonna tell you something.

>>13962319
Why would we ever not impose tarriffs on developing countries?
>hey, your cost of production is 1/10 of ours because your workers are paid shit and you pollute like there's no tomorrow, so let's make our domestic firms compete with yours on a level playing field
The US government has been straight up sabotaging its own private sector for decades.

>>13964739

Because sweatshop labour is how inflation has been tamed in the West since the 1990s, at least on imported goods.

>>13962530
>we have to be able to designate any given firm "systemically important" so that we have the legal authority to have unelected bureaucrats with no stake in the company micromanage things and prevent people from doing what they want with their own property
lol

>>13962775
lol. This is like in the Soviet Union where, towards the end, they didn't even try to make the propaganda believable and just published bullshit everybody know was bullshit.

>>13964763
>10 pictures of incremental price increases that will make you say "fuck having factories and jobs and shit"

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
thread die

weekend nights difficulty mode hard, harder, hardest

stay alive Sunday morning thread

Are futures open yet?

>>13965685
don't worry this will become a popular thread once the recession becomes full blown

>>13965876
Id be really interested to see how a recession goes with 4chan and the internet in general now that social media dominates

>>13962811
it's going to be bleeding money for years until it can take over the market

>>13962592
Love me some yelling pirate

>>13963044
Neuromancer and Snow Crash are great, I'm currently reading the Nexus series and it's pretty good.

>>13962775
Oh wtf China. The IP theft is the most flagrant and obvious shenanigan they pull.

>>13965966
literally every developing countries steals IP, just like how europe stole silkworms thousands of years ago. Also, american companies were doing fine for the last 10 years despite china stealing IP until Trump decided to start the trade war.

Breaking!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/332308211321425920

>>13965999
The byzantines stole silkworms, which the Chinese didn't invent. I dont think you understand intellectual property.

>>13966100
you're right, IP that allows drug companies to sell insulin for thousands of dollars when its produced for pennies is what makes America great

>>13966064
The fact remains the mueller report showed there was collusion and obstruction, impeachment soon.

>>13966064
The post you linked is more stupid than the image you attached

>>13966151
Democrats can't get an impeachment through the senate. So, if they fail then the president will come out of it even stronger. It's better for dems to not try to impeach Trump and leave Russia thing hanging over Trump while the election.

>>13966143
>sell insulin for thousands of dollars
If you don't like it, you could just make your own !
oh wait...

>>13966168
;^)

>>13966151
If they were going to start impeachment, why wouldn't they have done it last week? how long does it take to draw up the 'ur being impeached' paperwork? They've had years now to draft it. I was very young for the Clinton one, I don't know what the time line looks like

>>13966151
Isn't the main problem being republican won't agree to impeachment no matter what sort of fact was being presented?

>>13966151
>muh Russia
Basically an admission by dems that they are too stupid and weak to protect the country from Russian meddling, and that the security apparatus of the USA when managed by the current establishment can be bypassed by a few Russian trolls on facebook.


Nope, that really doesn't paint them in a good light. In fact I would say being beaten fair and square by drummmpppfff the reality tv star playboy billionaire makes them look far less incompetent than their own fantasy scenario they constructed to deflect blame.

>>13966143
You also clearly dont understand research and development costs, and how they are important to IP. You should perhaps consider studying the subject in greater detail before embarrassing yourself further.

>>13966237
no one knows what the actual facts are behind the obstruction

The impeachment would have to be for obstruction, not collusion.

I'm sure certain blatant proof of obstruction could get enough voters to demand 'peachment that the repub senators might vote for it.

But yes, it would take only a hair of proof for democrats to vote for impeachment (some would straight vote for it today without any further facts presented), while republicans would need MUCH more convincing.

BUT there is some weird sub-text going on.
If Trump wasn't colluding with Russia, but obstructed DOJ investigations into his personal matters and the matters of family and friends close to him, what could he have been covering up?
Whatever is hypothetically 'there' might be something that the top democrats don't really want to go after him over.

>>13966345
though some companies do sponsor their own research and development, many drug research is paid for via taxes through the National Institutes of Health.

On top of that, many pharmaceutical companies buy the rights to old drugs and then reprice them at a much higher price, sometimes even 1000x the original price.

America is a country that prioritizes the profit of the rich over the wellbeing of the masses, with legal bribery (lobbying) ensuring anti-competitive behavior which would not occur in true capitalism.

Finally, there are tons of reports that American companies turn a blind eye to Chinese stealing in the first place - why? Because China allows them to do business. If they blocked the IP theft, the American company would actually make less money. "IP theft" is more like the cost of doing business with China.

God I hate weekends
Cant wait for tomorrow massive sea of red.
Buy Puts

Would peach mints be good for the market or bad? The only reason we was going up was because of Obama, and now that we have got the tariffs we're going down. So it would be good for the markets right?

>>13962480
>tfw you know someone on that council
they don't think highly off me, but still.

>>13962498
>>13962508
This is exactly what I've been talking about, we're facing a major profit squeeze and these junk corporate bonds and CLOs could be the first domino to fall. The second domino (or possibly the first depending on what happens in agriculture) will be small community banks. These banks are the ones that are allowed to use CLOs to meet their reserve requirements. Including CLOs made up of other small banks debt!

>>13966651
>>tfw you know someone on that council
>they don't think highly off me, but still.

did you give Mnuchin a disappointing dry footjob or something?
you have to go back and make it right, they're going to crash the markets

This is the guy who produced The Lego Movie AND The Lego Batman Movie, you need to service him properly. Make sure those toes is moisturized

>>13966744
Not gonna say who obviously, but Mnuchin and his crony otting are the biggest greaseballs in the business

>>13966873
>jew goldman sachs banker is corrupt
wow who would have thought

>>13962190
I have 14 put contracts if that helps?

>>13963035
The philosophy of the encounter should be on that list. Probably the most advance theory of history we have is in there

>>13966873
definitely seems like a sleazy dude

>>13962489
>be fed and us govt
>cause great recession by incetivizing subprime lending
>act surprised when bubble pops
>blame banks
>cut interest rates to zero
>act surprised when corporations use the cheap money to over leverage themselves
>bubble pops
>blame the corporations

Pottery

>>13967169
Chinks and brown people are to blame though! trump taught me that! trump wouldn't lie! MAGA!

>>13963051
curtis is yanggang now

>>13967267
Rather surprised that we have our neoreactionary hideout in /smg/

Lyft puts are basically free money right now

>>13967365
I got my memes and dreams tied up in these SPY put and TLT call contracts. So if gooks don't retaliate bigly tonight I'll be totally fucked.

>>13967473
i'll watch the gooks smartly

>>13967169
Wait what? I thought we were all gunna blame the jews?

>>13966151
Is this bait? Or are you legitimately retarded?

May has left me so fucking pissed. All my gains, wiped out. I no longer hold any positions. Crash it, Trump. Drive this stock market into the ground. I want to get in at the bottom.

>>13967682
SELL LOW

>>13967473
BUY HIGH

>>13967714

>>13967652
Trump is a big fat liar. They're going to impeach the mother fucker.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/29/trump-strategically-changes-his-mueller-response-1346882

>>13967651
>implying the Jews are not implicated in all of this

>>13967714
Hey I never made a loss. I went from being up 16K to being up 4 dollars. I'm not letting it go down any further.

>>13967761
ok just making sure we're on the same page

>>13967769
but if things are up on Monday and Tuesday are you going to hold cash or FOMO in?
If things are down Monday, will you buy then?
If things are down Monday and Tuesday, will you buy then?

What's your genius plan for hitting the bottom in such unpredictable situations?

(the point I'm getting at is that you seem to be a bit letting your emotions dictate your positions too much)
(caution is fine but going all-in or all-out is generally not efficient or optimal)

best resource to learn options spreads?

>>13967876
>theory numbers and nerd shit
excel and python

>how they actually work irl
a broker and 50K to burn

>>13967682
it would be too easy if it could crash right now
Trump's just giving a buy signal to his masters in Chicago

>>13966151
>impeach Trump
>actually the first successful impeachment
>in walks Pence
>2020 budget proposal includes 5 billion for car batteries and jumper cables
I'm down.

>>13966346
>what could he have been covering up?
Honestly knowing Trump he could have been fighting just to fight.

>>13967963
Mutts will be sent first flight to fight for Israel with Pence, he said as much in his graduation speech.

>>13967997
Then invest your money in defense contractors.

>>13968019
inverse world etf when

>>13967943
This. Trump wants a pullback in the markets now so that he can have a rally going into 2020.

Bored.

Reply with a ticker and I'll do some TA on it.

I'm shifting to a more EM allocation.

A decade of uncertainty from US, EU, and China means investment and production increasing everywhere else (proportionally).

Doesn't necessary mean EM will perform super positive if US,etc. is negative, but the recent period of EM under-performance might be over.

Whether markets recover a bit and crab up, or continue to crab down over the next months/years, I think one important thing changed. That is, that the emerging markets are no longer as uncertain or unsafe as the developed markets now that the developed markets are turning on the whim of a tweet.

If you want real economies where things are made and value slowly but surely grows (like, a real economy and market with price discovery), it might be better found in smaller markets these days.

But currently, I'm just doing this by buying whatever iShares, VanEck, ect. ETF.

Does anyone on these threads buy more specific international stocks or funds?

>>13968150
Do USO and GLD to start :^)

>>13968150
VTGN

>>13968209
GLD

>>13968425
Very nice

>>13968346
Gap filled at the end there. Does it break resistance? Don't know.

>>13968130
I'm retarded and thought 7/1 spy calls were the play on Friday.
I'm starting to get too greedy for my own good...

>>13962480
>>13962489
>>13962498
>>13962508
>>13962530
Prepare the pink wojaks

>>13968674
it's called catching a falling knife, you never want to catch a falling knife, we've all done it though, and most of us will do it again.

according to my "expert anal-ysis" SPY will be at $5 in like 30 weeks.

Should I invest in beyond meat? It's pretty good desu and the grocery stores near me have them flying off the shelves

>>13968762
>mfw full cash waiting for the 35% crash

>>13968874
Would have been a good buy at its IPO, but it's overvalued at the moment
Wait for it to crash and then buy

>>13968879
why do I keep seeing 35% getting tossed around? Why not 50% or 65%? The last crash was about 50% if memory serves.

>>13968150
LCI

>>13968919
What I thought ty anon

>>13968934
Because you're a nigger

>>13968711
my first foray into investing was basically this, fortunately it was only a small amount of money and I learned the lesson quickly.

>>13968150
HAL
NUE
PVTL
You won’t pussy

>I've been staring at micron puts for the last two weeks but never pulled the trigger

Fuck my pansy ass. Do I buy now? There's still room for them to get fucked by China right

>>13968762
>>13968879
Would be super excited to see things way down, crying pink-faced boomers cash out, market recovers :)

surprised to not see ANY articles about boomers getting JUST'd in December


>>13968934
35% is more than December but not unreasonable to ask for if the markets get REALLY spooked and credit completely falls apart

>>13968987
Remember the Ukrainian who got his mom to sell 500k at the very bottom in December?
That's how you know to buy

>>13968985
>Fuck my pansy ass.
omw baby

risk reward on those puts is OK, but might as well go to the casino. only reason to gamble money on options with the market in it's current state is if you can't handle flashing lights ;^)

We did it lads

>>13968987
>surprised to not see ANY articles about boomers getting JUST'd in December

That's because, ahem, "Time in the market beats timing the market," sip.

>>13969024
lol perfect timing

I hope this tweet ends up in history textbooks

>>13969009
>Remember the Ukrainian who got his mom to sell 500k at the very bottom in December?
I do not remember

>>13969049
they say that when things are good

then when we're down ~10% to 20%, they call their broker trying to pull out and their broker talks them down with that line

Then when we're down 25%+, they call their broker back screaming and crying

boomers get emotional with 'their' money, I'm sure some of them pulled out in December. But it wasn't a massive amount. I'm looking forward to reading articles and screenshots of it this next time around ;)

>>13968942
I knew this was coming.

Kept it simple.

>>13962021
What's the cheapest stock broker in Europe?

>>13968981
Too many. Pick one.

>>13969192
Give us the run down on SPY

>>13969170
wait you don't even have the Y axis going to 20, much less 30 or 100

are you sure you understand how TA works?

>>13969213
Alright

>>13969217
Short term

>>13969230
it could go to 20+ any day when some magical event happens, I think they expect it rather soon

I don't claim to know exactly what goes on in the minds of the LCI buyers and shillers, but I don't think any of them expect to be waiting years for their sweet, sweet payoff
(correct me if I'm wrong)

>>13969217
Megaphone.

MIGHT bounce around 273

>>13969192
Do PVTL

>>13969645
If you're in this, pray support holds.

Ok done with the TA. Going to go eat and wait till futures open up.

>>13968711
in hindsight I should just be doing volatility plays instead of going long or short
I have a few strangles but I'm net long now

>>13968987
>surprised to not see ANY articles about boomers getting JUST'd in December
the boomers I know exited the market in September at the latest

>>13969522
>MIGHT bounce around 273
That's what my thoughts were as well, the thing is, it's most likely just a dead cat and going to break to the downside unless we get impeachment.

/SMeGma/

>>13969975
/smg/ - sexy men gambling

>>13969962
Yeah, and if China releases the US company blacklist and the earth mineral restrictions (LOL RIP SEMIS), this thing will break 2700 and capitulation will set in.

>>13969952
>volatility plays
Seems high, what’s it gonna do tomorrow?

>>13970141
I'm positioned for a move up, but it's hard to say. It all hinges on how much the market reacts to more tariff rhetoric.

>>13969867
Sweet bought puts Friday :) let’s see if TA is more than fortune telling

is a vertical debit spread essentially a stop loss

KEYTRUUUUUUDAAAAAAA!!!!

>>13970275
all TA is lagging indicators, by definition

also Rayleigh's Method seems to work better than moving averages most of the time, at least if you have enough data to plug into a useful matrix

Anyone been following the ASCO?
We cure cancer?

>>13970487
Well in less than 2 hours we're going too see the futures open up, which don't even mean anything, and we'll get a binary event from China which is either going to be good or bad for the markets. Personally I think we're in a recession, but that's a lagging indicator as well.

>>13970511
What China event are we getting tonight? Are you talking about yesterday’s white paper and press conference (or whatever that was)?

>>13970542
They have to counter if they hit metals then semis and basic materials tank followed by automotive from Mexico and chipotle (which is already tanking) which brings the market down harder
I’m more concerned about oil right now Iran isn’t budging and basically told trump go fuck yourself so I’m thinking HAL and XOM seeing new lows

https://outline.com/fKUDVR
>https://www.thestreet.com/politics/trump-tariffs-show-that-trump-wants-a-total-ban-on-foreign-imports-14977987

Maybe the real goal?

>>13963158
I unironically think it's getting slid on purpose

>>13963158
>LCI becomes a crypto kid
Shocker

>>13970866
o.o
If the cryptos slide us off the board they can take all the dollars for themselves?
/smg/ is a rude reminder to the crypto gamblers on the losing side

>>13970781
It would be nice to see some real and serious movement in US manufacturing
Would be nice to see Amazon make something here.
Will President Trump's ever-increasing tariffs eventually help TSLA? Probably won't make any difference in the grand scheme of things.
I'm trying to think of which companies will do better or worse if the trends continue

Uhhhh I actually work for a European company but I work for an American branch of it, so I think I'm OK

>>13970781
>4D chess was to bring the entire US into recession and war
I’m almost positive that if everyone actually tried to embrace the president as just that and not as some tyrant none of this would be happening right now it’s the same with the Kavanaugh shit and how now he’s turning roe v wade on its head

>>13968209
My IRA is 30 percent EM and I'm perfectly content to accumulate cheap before the ball on these middle countries picks up speed. Their large and young working population will let them maintain growth when compared to the US or Europe.

>>13970984
You don't believe he's a wanna-be fascist?

>>13970989
I agree, I think that so many investors overlook EMs right now. There are so many opportunities for reasonable and sustainable growth.
The recent under-performance in EM equity prices might rubber-band and we see them have a really strong decade or two.
Especially if the big tech players (AMZN, GOOGL, AAPL) are checked in their expansion and can't blob out and do everything.

Are you buying ETFs? are you buying the biggest all-EM ETFs or country specific?

>>13970676
>>13970984
That’s not what the article says... I don’t follow your posts. Who is they that has to counter? Who is they that has to accept? Accept him as just that what? What are you talking about?

Sorry m8! I don’t understand you

>>13970676
I read an article recently that Trump's main big goal is to keep oil prices low, and all the tariffs and other stuff are just plays to keep oil low:
https://www.investing.com/analysis/with-mexico-tariffs-trump-goes-a-step-further-in-killing-oil-rally-200426908

I want to buy XOM sooo much but I'm also waiting, staying patient.

>>13970542
the white paper was like the framework of their perspective, the actual response (near-term policy changes) is expected tonight.

>>13971055
I'm buying mutual funds since it's easier to divide my money that way. SFENX is my EM fund, SWSSX and SWPPX my other two.

>>13971123
based Chinese timing, knowing to keep their strikes targeted to the night before, giving markets less time to prepare themselves

>>13971197
>SFENX
yo beware that fund has heavy China exposure (unless thats what you want)
https://www.schwabfunds.com/public/csim/home/products/mutual_funds/portfolio.html?symbol=SFENX

>BYND earnings are coming up this week
Man I'm feeling like I could make a fat penny shorting this shit this week, should I?

>>13971123
>is expected tonight
if they had any balls they'd imprison all americans currently in china and say fuck off.

>>13971417
>visiting Ch*na
they'd deserve it
Imagine how much of a hassle it would be to imprison and deport all the Chinks AND Mexicans in the US


>>13971277
further reading ~
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/13/china-is-raising-tariffs-on-60-billion-of-us-goods-starting-june-1.html
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3012779/beijing-warns-us-farmers-may-lose-china-market-good-plays
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/06/02/tariffs-china-blame-u-s-escalation-trade-war-china-says/1319985001/

>>13971021

continue to pray to Yield Curve. concentrate on the inversion. we can end it here. we can end it for all time.

>>13967963
>>13966151
>>13966237
Facts don't matter. Facts have almost never mattered in the history of the world. Practically the only situation in which facts matter are when there is no physical possibility for it to be different- which only occurs, maybe, if you're trying to say 2 + 2 is 4 or trying to hold off a massive army with a few people. And even then, you can manipulate circumstances to make the so-called "facts" irrelevant. See the Battle of Thermopylae and the success of Bolshevik revolutionaries. Cold, hard facts never matter.

It's all about narrative. We live in a world where the only thing that matters is narrative.

>>13971021
SOON

You just found a bitcoin wallet+password with $200.

what do you do with it

>>13970989
America is the only country that matters

>>13971728
>
.

>>13971736
Cope harder Chang

>>13971706
Nothing

>>13971728
>>13971736

>>13971756

fucj i thought this was a merchant

>>13971021
GOLD

>>13971756
Not found:
>pajeet, brap, jew, needful, vishnu, thot, Craig, Satoshi, 13%, boomer, Luo Dong
Found 2x:
>faggot

Fake and gray

RED

Futures down .4% we're totally fucked.

who here excited for tomorrow

My SL for DJ30 is set at 24500. Wish me luck boys.

>>13972053
part of me is sad for the boomers who are going to be forced into retirement because there's going to be no more jobs.

200sma absolutely violated.

>>13972129
D:

I hate crypto tards as much as the next guy but I can't help but feel stupid as I watch BTC rising and my VT stacks sinking. Could have been up 100% if I loaded up on BTC in December. Now I'm stuck holding VT bags going into a recession. Should I unload now and hedge a bit with crypto or did I miss the boat? Seems like no matter what I do I always end up buying the top. Feels terrible when I do so much investment research and buy Vanguard only to lose to some sub 50 IQ crypto idiots that just buy bitcoin without thinking.

>futures down .45% instantly
big oof

Yea... I might skip the AMD this week lawl it's 3x T-Bonds time.

yay

>>13972242
That's the face of some one who moved into SPY puts and TLT calls.

>>13972259
>yeah, and put some of those 275 SPY puts in the box

>that massive gap down
we really gonna go sup 2700 O_O?

>>13972242

>my SPY puts
Were on our way back to testing december lows lads!

>>13972305
at this rate, we're going to be below 2600 at open. SLV is going to be $200 per share. Bitcoins are going to be 100k and we're all going to celebrate with a massive cocaine party.

YIKESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Also I forgot I'm balls deep in SOXS.

I think I'm rich come tomorrow, guys.

I really wonder what system we will be using after the collapse. MMT, negative interest rates, crypto or back to gold.

Also, even with futures as red as they are now. Have we gotten any word on the chinks retaliation? Are they waiting again until right before the market opens to get the most red out of their punch

>>13972305
S...support at 2720

>>13972305
Interesting that this is happening in a more slow/protracted way instead of it being a immediate crash and pink wojaks all the time like it was in December

will continue to just hodl my GALT and watch like I always have

down .6 percents and still no slowing....

>fear levels off the chart
>bonds overpriced for speculative rate cut

Doji month engaged, buy the dip

>I sold my SDOW and bought TVIX
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I'm the dumb.

Aight so, Futures usually mean nothing, but not this time. We're obviously going into a correction to btfo all the overhyped IPOs and tech sector (think mongodb, okta, goog, uber; they will be shredded alive).

I still have 100 shares of AMD left that wasn't called away, and a short call on it already exp friday. AMD will probably pull a -5% so what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna take my leftover $13,500 buying power and go hard in TMF, should get like 550+ shares. I'll keep the 100 amd still, but the TMF should hedge against it if amd decides to correlate to the bear market. Should be gud. If things get bad i'll exit amd entirely and just stay in bonds until equities are finally undervalued in a month or 2 again.

>probably going to graduate into a recession

>>13972400
the gap down on open will probably net you profit on your TVIX and let you exit your position boomerfren

>>13972415
what major tho

Oh futures are recovering, we're going to open up green if the selling has finally stopped.

>>13972445
management information systems

>>13972175
hedge with crypto. Where is all of this money going to flow as CLO's unwind?

>>13972415
learn2code

>mgmt info sys
what even is that?

>>13972461
i literally am learning to code
info sys is a mix between CS and a management degree. I take classes at both the management school and engineering school. Basically I want to be the manager of a team of pajeets or go into sysadmin shit. Could also transition into security analysis or data anlysis

>>13972456
its over for u
should have learned how to be a worker at the new American factories that el hombre naranja will be building

>>13972461
mr no job over here full of advice ;^)

>>13972363
adamantium support?

>>13972456
>majoring in how to use excel

>>13972514
crepe paper support ;_;

>>13972487
I pray we don't go into a recession because those jobs won't exist if we do.

>>13972343
Sounds nice, desu

>>13972514
quantum microstructure GUNDANIUM support with ultimate titanium-nanotube composite membrane at 2715 right now

The PPT is only 50% charged right now, golden bull charging it's main booster reactors still

>>13972415
Kind of the same situation here, though I'm also planning on going to grad school before I enter the job market

>>13972445
Neuroscience here

I can't believe I fucked up my chance to be a bearchad this badly... from now on I think, stick to SDOW and SQQQ? Too late now though, of course.

Maybe look into bonds, BTC, gold, and ETH

Not smart enough for big brain move of playing the Yen, so don't start with that.

>>13972436
Thank you sunman

Are we going to open up to a circuit breaker and then we just close up before lunch?

>>13972591
I'm thinking about going to grad school if it doesn't look great. I have a 3.97 gpa so I'd be auto accepted to a lot of places.

Anyone elses eobinhood account that exercised rights keep buying more galt?

>401k only offers mutual funds
>have to wait until the end of the trading day tomorrow and eat massive losses before i can move into bonds

>>13972624
Always leave your 401k alone if you are young

>>13972605
nnnneeeeerrrrrrrrddddddd

>>13972591
nnnneeeeerrrrrrrrddddddd

>>13972618
didn't participate in the RO, buying more shares at certain prices under $4
I'm favoring SGMO over GALT at current prices though. love SGMO, it's so cheap now, can't get enough of my SGMO and NWL for these prices

>>13972628
When does one stop being young

>>13972605
If you can get a scholarship or can attend without taking on extra debt I'd definitely recommend that

>>13972646
50

>>13972605
Good idea.

Accumulate more debt and put off making money as long as you can!

Living in a childlike world is a plus!

>>13972628
why would i buy and hold sp500 to hold it for it to -30% within the next year. no way we are breaking all time highs with DRUMPPFFSS tariffs. im thinking of holding bonds for the next few months

>>13972646
I was never young
;_;

>>13972605
My GPA is a 3.3 (I was lazy my first 1.5 years) but I still have some time to bring it up a bit and am planning on making up for it with good GRE scores and my research experience (will have 1.5 years of experience as a research intern and assuming all goes well multiple published papers with my name on them, one of which being a first authorship, when I graduate)

>>13972678
Because you are a short term thinker and you get penalized... but you'll learn

>>13972689
>and you get penalized
???
i am not pulling money out of my 401k, i am exchanging my sp500 holdings for their bond fund.

>>13972600
>I can't believe I fucked up my chance to be a bearchad this badly

Ditto. SPY was nearly oversold towards the end of Friday. I opted to go long on a couple things that are already way oversold (GOOS and MO) instead of just going short on SPY. Didn't expect Mexico and India bullshit, and now China coming out big dick hardball over the weekend.

How the fuck do you play earnings in these types of markets? If a company is makin beats on everything but lowers guidance by JUST ONE (1) NUMBER it drops 10% everytime. So is it better to just hedge calls with puts and shares?

>>13972652
>>13972687
I'm hoping I can get a scholarship but ultimately I'd rather just enter the workforce. I've been in college since 2014 and I'm tired of it.

>>13972656
You need a graduate degree for fields like Neuroscience tho

>>13972678
Bonds are going to get fucked like a brand new fridge if Uncle Powell decided to cut rates and enact QE3 and QE4

Nice. Very nice.
I think I’ll keep my money under a mattress for now

>>13972731
Sarcastic baggy is bestgirl

>>13972731
>Bonds are going to get fucked like a brand new fridge if Uncle Powell decided to cut rates and enact QE3 and QE4

I thought we were on QE4 and QE5 now

hard to keep track
I fear for all the kids in these threads entering 100% leveraged short positions, the bull-side news can be just as sudden and unpredictable as the bear-side news (on a day/week scale)
One way or another everyone better have plenty of pink wojaks ready to go for the next few months

>>13972731
Don't bonds do well in low interest rate environments though

>>13972731
cutting rates would be a good thing for existing bonds that have the higher interest rates on them

>>13972729
And?

The guy isn't studying neuroscience.

>>13972769
with just a rate cut and nothing else, the value of existing bonds (including bond funds like TLT, etc.) increases
but if the Fed starts pumping the market, money will flow back to equities from bonds and so bond value goes down

these kinds of themes are like the most important things to understand from the last 10-15 years of equity market performance... if you don't understand QE and Fed rates moves you don't understand anything

>>13972781
>>13972769
Oh yeah, you're right, good thing I bought my calls on TLT. Fuck it

>>13972784
I thought you were talking about grad school in general, not his situation in particular

>>13972757
>4 hours ago
>currently in a trade war with at least 5 nations and climbing each week

Global Recession isn't knocking at your door. It's inside the fucking house.

>>13972813
Tell the Global Recession to stay the fuck away from my fridge.

>>13972813
Can I charge the global recession rent?

>>13972813
Better not pee on my couch

Japs pumping USD/JPY. They're trying to stop the bleeding lol.

>>13972828
It's the tenant that cooks meth in your home and tries to sell it to you

Here is another bubble that's busting in Canuck land. In 2008, somehow we avoided a collapse of our housing market and our market exploded thanks to cheap credit and foreign investor speculation. It is turning now and some houses have lost 20% y/y.

Basically we have the US housing bubble in Canada and it is much bigger. Millennial were basically priced out of the market and had 0 chance to afford housing.

>>13972875
I been holding RY puts, I want that Canada bubble to BLOW up, not slowly deflate

how many canada houses do u own?

>>13972875
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-04-16/college-kids-are-living-like-kings-in-vancouver-s-empty-mansions

>>13972875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBQHXjL4lSE

i wonder why
could it be because you can buy citizenship by investing a relatively low amount in canada? Thanks chinamen

Reminder we haven't found the bottom until a third of the posts ITT are pink wojaks

>>13972866
Do BOX chart plz

>>13972917
Just bought calls on PWJK in preparation for the next boom

>>13972958
My friend at work kept telling me to buy YCRB and GRJK calls on margin
This nigga getting liquidated lmao

>>13972917
ahh the good old days

BUY GOLD!

>>13972917
>it's the Molly gets sexually assaulted by Binky and Ralph and starts cutting herself episode

Is oil gonna go down in a straight line forever?

>>13972976
F

>>13973009
certainly seems like it ; (
I want some oil price SPIKES
can't the saudis and russians cut production to zero and iran blow up a bunch of tankers?
I mean cmon, who can make money when oil goes under $50/barrel

>>13973009
Yes, oil & copper is the biggest leading indicator of declining demand. Many us shale companies are leveraged like crazy and will go bust if the junk bond market blows up.

oil prices declining rapid -> us shale cash flow declines significantly -> corporate bond downgrades to junk

>>13973009
trump is going to start war with iran to prop up oil prices in an attempt to revitalize the market

WE GOLD STANDARD NOW NIGGA
HEIL TRUMP! HEIL OUR PEOPLE! HAIL BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!

>>13973009
40-45 at least

>>13973070
donaldo wants low oil prices though :(

we have to hope for Iran themselves to decide to chimp out

cmon persia I believe in u

>>13973053
Falling oil prices are bullish for EM's. The oil that won't be purchased in the U.S during a recession will be bought up elsewhere and should make oil trend upward eventually.

>>13972955
Too busy watching futures, oil, gold, and yen.

Should have been here earlier man :(

I'll do it again next weekend if I'm bored.

>>13973112
er no, the US or Israel will just use another false flag to start the war

Hindu^ism scriptu^res: CONSUMING COW DU^NG AND URI^NE: Agni Purana 279.41-44 “…powder of Vidanga taken with the urine of a cow, should be known as a strong vermifuge…” Tr. M.N. Dutt..............Baudhayana Dharma Shastra 1.5.12.38. He who is bitten by a worm will become pure on bathing (daily) during three days and drinking (a mixture of) cow’s urine, cowdung, milk, sour milk, butter, and water boiled with Kusa grass.

>>13973144
It was looking like that a couple weeks ago
I haven't given up hope in Israel doing something shady to make it happen, they definitely know they have to start the war before the end of the trump presidency.
but it might be put off until the winter or next summer.
It might be put off to help trump during re-election.
if he starts a war with Iran now, people will tire of it through the next year.
he needs the sudden war fervor to be high, with videos of drone strikes and F-22's fresh on the news to get people to vote for him and win re-election.

So Iran war coming soon, but makes more sense to the major players to put it off until next year

>>13973144 (dubs!)
>>13973188 (also, dubs.)
>Israel gets hit by an (errant?) missile from syria
>announces strikes on military targets
FINALLY
why are we just letting Iran do whatever it wants in there?

>>13973258
>>13973258
>>13973258
NEW THREAD

Who here enjoying the Trump-Tariff Triple Top? Everyone got their fiat ready for the sweet 35% dip we're about to experience?

>>13972718
you dont play earnings in any type of markets, unless you have insider info

>>13969175
degiro