/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13941479
>RLC was a biz whale pnd shitcoin

/thread

>>13941479
Wait a minute there nolinker, you're telling me that

>despite hating LINK you monitor the price religiously and make a thread as soon as there is any movement
>develop novel and intiutive FUD plotlines using the most up to date information you constantly seek out
>dedicate your creative energies to editing maymays with LINK branding
>have LINKtrader, GitHub, Gitter, pivotaltracker bookmarked so you can keep up to date with the project you hate
>actively participate in a LINK discord or telegram group
>know more about LINK than any other project, even more than stinkylinkies themselves.

Have sex my dude

weak bait. kys faggot

>>13941551
>no rebuttal
>>13941571
>no rebuttal
>>13941581
>no rebuttal

You're all doomed.

Repeat after me, There is no trustless solution to sybil attacks.

Dump all your bags before others realize this.

>>13941862
iExec's PoCo algorithm is the only trustless solution to sybil attacks.

>https://medium.com/iex-ec/poco-series-2-on-the-use-of-staking-to-prevent-attacks-2a5c700558bd

>>13941479
>LINK is made obsolete by itself

>>13941937
>KYC required or be sybil attacked
It must be true that LINKfags don't know how to read or understand anything about technology. No wonder all of you act like you're in a cult.

>>13941882
A whale can still do a sybil attack. Even a discord group of 100 individuals in agreement can sybil attack that shit coin even if it has KYC.

KYC doesn’t stop individuals from organizing to perform malicious attacks.

>>13941479
JUST HAVE SEX DUDE

IT ISN'T HARD

>>13941963
Good thing most of the circulating RLC is fairly distributed. No one can do a sybil attack on it and no KYC is required, unlike LINK. Also, no one can agree to do a sybil attack with PoCo because they would lose everything in the process.

KYC definitely curtails the possibility of a sybil attack, but you're giving up your privacy in doing so. That is the major downfall of LINK, and why it will ultimately fail.

RLC is the last ETH-level moonshot in crypto.

>Sybil attacks
Threshold Signatures

>>13942023
Threshold sigs have nothing to do with preventing sybil attacks. It's incredible how delusional and uninformed linkikes are.

Bump to save some of you from losing all of your money by believing in an echo chamber cult.

>>13941479
thanks, just sold 20k

it cost 50 cent to check price of ethereum coin with chain link coin

>>13942111
Checked.
Also, RLC's dOracle could check the price of ETH before LINK's oracle could. Food for thought.

Link will 1000x from here to end of year

>>13942149

You're late for the dump fren

>>13942149
Highly doubt it. I guarantee whales are already positioning to sell after they 4x'd. It'll dump down to zero after they realize it's either KYC or get sybil attacked.

Lost 40k on these two shitturd scamcoins last couple weeks

>>13942229
At least RLC has huge upside potential. LINK is pretty much dead in the water though. Hopefully you have more RLC than LINK.

has anyone an actual argument againt sybil attacks on chainlink?

>>13942264
2 days posting this and I haven't seen one yet. Probably because they know it's either KYC'd nodes or get sybil attacked.

The only argument I've seen is "muh everyone will KYC anyways" which goes against everything crypto stands for.

>>13941998
No one would Sybil attack RLC because it's a no name shitcoin that nobody uses

>>13942291
Posting this too and haven't seen one either. They scream "FUD"

>>13942329
>no rebuttal
>baseless ad hominem
yikes my dude. iExec RLC will be the most used technology within 4 years. iExec based AI and machine learning is going to be huge.

>>13942329
getting desperate linky

>>13942346
/biz/ strategy with LINK was fucking retarded.
Coins live and die on hype.
You want LINK to moon? Should have been hyping it to normies right before the blogpost.
Now the blogpost's out and Sergey has realized he's too retarded to fix the problem LINK has set out to solve.
And NOW /biz/ wants to pump the coin.

Hello RLC shill.
i was considering buying yesterday, but still unsure.

What about threshold signatures biz has? why is wveryone hyping it?

What about all the partners LINK has like swift?

What about how rlc has been dead in the water for so long while LINK gains?

why would RLC go up now if its been dead?

and how do you refute this link shill ITT >>13939348 who says not to worry about KYC?

>>13942361
Why will iexac ai be used so much? I need specific for the use cases. Doesnt seem like it will outweigh the use cases of decentralized oracles

>>13942291
Chainlink isn't crypto its middleware

>>13941479
RLC is a shitcoin, buy FTM and FSN anon

>>13942406
Are you retarded or just dishonest? LINK was made for crypto, it should harmonize with crypto's purpose.

>>13942329

Does not help that even the dev team can only say "read the pivot message" and "read the blog post"

I'm not sure what they have in their heads, either they are way too autistic to pull this of, or sergey really does play 4d chess and will btfo us. In any case i do hold a stack, and would be happy to see this working

>>13942361
>your coin is stupid
>my coin is better and everyone will use it in the future because I said so
You sound like every other shitcoin bagholder in the history of biz. Enjoy poverty.

>>13942465
>it should harmonize with crypto's purpose
Kek imagine being this fucking gay

>>13942479
>because I said so
Or because I have a high enough IQ to connect the dots after doing months of research.

>>13942506
Everyone sees you're deflecting.

>>13941479
Could you give a brief rundown of what iExec dOracles are? How are they different from Chainlinks?

>>13942572
DYOR. Read this.

https://docs.iex.ec/doracle.html

>>13942621
>https://docs.iex.ec/doracle.html
Thanks

>>13942679
Welcome. It's a great read. It should open your eyes on the matter.

W-what was that?

>>13942388
amswer my fucking questions shill. what happened to no rebuttles

>https://docs.iex.ec/doracle.html
Oh fuck. I'm halfway through now, and this is actually fucking legit. I've completely discarded iExec until now, didn't even know they were this big.

>>13942745
Painting the daily close

>>13942040
>he didn’t read the blog post
>he doesn’t know

Not a very subtle RLC shill thread. It reeks in here. Delete and try again streetshitters.

>>13942936
You forgot
>he doesn’t understand automatic matching vs manual selection
>he thinks decentralized == anonymity

>>13942936
Point me to where it says in the blog post that anything besides KYC will prevent sybil attacks.

>>13942745
Bagholder cope.

>>13942812
>threshold signatures
They have nothing to do with sybil attacks. They essentially just bring the cost of using the oracle down. The same thing is accomplished with iExec's PoA chain. Everyone is hyping it because they don't understand it and are latching onto it as a coping mechanism.

>partnerships
RLC arguably has way better partnerships. IBM, Intel, Alibaba cloud, Ubisoft, EDF, and more including the literal French government.

>why is RLC down
because mainnet dump, just like LINK is in the process of. RLC is going to pump extremely hard in the next month or two, you can either sit on the sidelines or get in at less than 1x ICO price.

>why would RLC go up
Because for one, it's extremely undervalued, and secondly the usage will gradually increase. The singularity for RLC will come, (I'm guessing mining dApps or something AI related), and I'll make sure to post here non stop laughing at everyone that doubted iExec.

>don't worry about KYC or sybil attacks shill
It's a cope. They don't truly understand how bad this news is for potential link adoption.

>>13942953
More like a LINK destruction thread. I was all in LINK like most here, but after a ton of research this is just something I cannot logically invest in. RLC is a much safer bet.

>>13943028
>he thinks automatic matching vs manual selection will prevent sybil attacks
>he thinks people will KYC
>he doesn't know if most people refuse KYC it will be sybil attacked
>he is coping
Bagholder.

>17 posts by this ID

cope

>>13941479

When Bitcoin first launched as a network, all nodes were essentially KYC - all node operators mining on the network were known persons within the cypherpunk mailing list on Usenet, apart from Satoshi himself. Satoshi entrusted these people during the early stage of the network to test out and discover bugs - Hal FInney, the autistic NEET from Finland and some other proto-NEETs could have literally sybil attacked the entire network at the very start, but they didn't because they were invested in the project ideologically and wanted to see it succeed.

Now BTC is still functioning 10 years later without any sybil attacks.

Pic related

>>13943154
>responding to bagholding linkies including you
>crying about response post number
nice cope fag, thanks for the bump, enjoy your dump.

>>13943185
Cope.
>comparing a closed beta to launched product
Whew lad.

>>13943185
BSV is functioning yea. BTC is the fork.

>>13943200
just think about how SEETHING you are knowing deep down that LINK will succeed over your shitcoin that you have to make a thread and reply to over half the posts in it.

just imagine.

keep coping, i'm sure your literal who shitcoin will surpass one of the most promising projects in crypto.

>>13943261
Just imagine your cope.
Oh wait I can see it from here.
LINK is going to be sybil attacked.

>>13941833
Oh hey, you're the guy from yesterday. Glad to see you are so focused on aggresively spreading this information instead of working hard to capitalize on it. Way to go.

>>13943279
2 years ago the fud was 2 man team, russian scammer
1 year ago the fud was json parser, mainnet never launching, same presentation
today it's sybil attacks

yeah the FUD nowadays is literally nothing compared to what it was. you cucks get BTFO every time. see you in a year nolinker. keep coping.

>>13941833
>You're all doomed.
So are your genetics.

>>13943282
I'm already in position to capitalize from this news. It's just funny informing retards that don't understand crypto and watching them squirm trying to cope.
>>13943313
Example, here. Cope. No rebuttal to core argument. Literal cultist manic delusion.

>>13943313
what happened to $1 sibos 17? what happened to $5 eoy 17? what happened to mainnet q2 2018? what happened to $10 eoy 18?
ALL OF THE TARGETS YOU FAGGOTS HAVE SET HAVE FAILED
EVERY SINGLE ONE
EVERY SINGLE PREDICTION- WRONG
EVERY SINGLE LARPER- WRONG
ENJOY LIVING IN DENIAL

>>13943344
>in position
>not scrapping together every spare moment he can to further take advantage
The amount of time you've spent surveying this thread, yesterday's thread, and the past few like them, belies your 'position'

>>13943371
so I ask, who is btfo other than deluded link bag holders?
don't you have a folder of no linker screencaps you've been waiting to post for 2 years? oh you don't want to? why's that? because all the posts you screencapped are RIGHT ON THE MONEY

>>13943371
>/biz/ is one person

you're the delusional one here.

>>13943408
so you are saying only ONE PERSON out of the entire board said these things or things along those lines?
NOW THIS IS DELUSIONAL DENIAL COPE LMAOO

>>13941966
Based and sexpilled.

>>13943420
i can smell the newfag from here. you found out about LINK through shitposting, long after the real discussions were over. maybe if you were in those threads you would've known what people actually thought about price dates and development dates instead of muh $1000 eoy spamming.

Link holders are the most unintelligent people on this board

>>13943396
You don't know how I move my money, or how much money I'm risking in this space. I am always accumulating bottoms. I'm always looking for the next big thing. I'm always looking out for potential coin-killers. This news is a coin-killer.

>>13941479
Decentralized=\= anonymous nigger

>>13943468
The coin is killed and you still pay attention to it. Nice

>>13943485
Decentralization can equal a form of psuedo anonymity.
KYC is straight up asking to get doxxed or suffer from centralization related disasters.

>>13943094
>The singularity for RLC will come, (I'm guessing mining dApps or something AI related), and I'll make sure to post here non stop laughing at everyone that doubted iExec.
yeah, can you expand on this? Why is AI such a big deal? dApps? so many other coins have dApps too.

>>13943456
I was in the pre-sale and sold sibos pump
I haven't touched link since bro sorry
none of the breadcrumbs you are talking about are legitimate either...

>>13943109
Easy, make kyc only trade to other kyc nodes.

>he sold

>>13943580
RLC is leading the pack in all of these areas. AI is going to be fucking huge in the next 5 years. Like, I'm talking massive. Remember how big and amazing Google was the first 10 years? AI is going to be even bigger. It's going to change the world and make it more efficient. RLC is currently the only decentralized AI capable product on the market.

The dAppstore is going to take time, but the power of RLC is that it can make centralized Apps into dApps.

>>13943522
Decentralized means tamper resistant and natural disaster resistant, not personal data protection, you coping nigger

>>13943722
First thing an AI would do is kill all rlcniggers

>>13943730
>>13943749
This is how I know you're a retard.

>>13943094
>>13943094
>>13943094
Hey man, I know you mean well, but it’s clear you’re not a very intelligent poster and are wasting everyone’s time here. Asking me to provide where it says anything besides kyc will prevent Sybil attacks is shifting the burden of proof from you unable to read to telling me to spoonfeed you proof that is readily available in the blogpost to answer your continued idiotic responses. It literally says the kyc thing is for the initial launching of the network. You would realize that after certain network effects have been achieved, and the amount of nodes has grown to a necessary size, Sybil attacks of the kind to attack this network will be almost impossible if not completely impossible. Decentralization does not mean anonymity, and vice versa, and the immediate launching of a network makes it more vulnerable to Sybil attacks than a mature network.

Also you nigger faggot, the kyc thing is optional. The early vetting is to ensure technical safety for the nodes. Kys

>>13943597
i love how every link holder nowadays on /biz/ was in the pre sale

KYS newfag, stop LARPING its sad

>>13943109
You are fucking retarded no wonder you hold RLC. I’m going to make this very simple for you. Reputation providers will have registration services (KYC). If you don’t want to participate in them choose another reputation provider. Manual selection means those requesting can pick nodes from said reputation provider. How can it be Sybil attacked when identities are known?

Just like REQ holders, low IQ RLC bag holders got deservedly F R E N C H E D

>>13943819
C O P E

>>13943850
>Reputation providers will have registration services (KYC)
Centralized. Open to doxxing.
>If you don’t want to participate in them choose another reputation provider
Centralized. Open to doxxing.
>Manual selection means those requesting can pick nodes from said reputation provider
Centralized. Open to doxxing.

> How can it be Sybil attacked when identities are known?
Because KYC being optional means that everything you just said doesn't matter.

NO KYC = SYBIL ATTACK
KYC = CENTRALIZED GARBAGE

>>13943856
You do realize you’ve been complaining this whole thread about people not answering your shit FUD, and when someone does you just say
>C O P E
Wew lad. Never gonna make it.

>>13943893
I literally destroyed every argument you had.
Stay delusional fag.
NO KYC = SYBIL ATTACK
KYC = CENTRALIZED GARBAGE

>>13943918
if LINK nodes are going to be operated by huge financial enterprises like SWIFT, why would they even care about being anonymous?

>>13943918
That's right, keep thinking about a dead 'coin'

>>13943722
How will AI be huge? The only thing i hear about AI doing the selfless driving cars and AI waifu anime bots.

Are you saying RLC is going to have something to do with this?

>>13943918
You responded to what I wrote with
> C O P E
If that’s considered destroying every argument I had, then you should put all of your money into RLC.

I can’t wait to watch you low IQ niggers get deported.

>>13943876
>if I say centralized enough times it’ll come true
>projecting my insecurities by calling others bag holders as I hold a sub 100 market cap shitcoin that is bleeding out
>reading the white paper that refutes all my arguments is too hard because I don’t understand mathematical notation or how cryptography works
Make sure to livestream it when you neck yourself.

>>13943947
You want one central entity controlling every node? Centralization is disgusting.

>>13943960
Yeah, link is dead in the water after this discover.

>>13943961
AI can literally "think" about and learn something a human can a million times faster and simulate time learned. IE: AlphaStar beating starcraft 2 professionals at a game they've been playing their entire lives.
So, basically, AI will be able to have billions of years of knowledge about a subject leading to new advances in everything.

>>13943969
Because literally everything you're saying is a massive cope since you refuse to admit the problem of KYC vs no KYC to solve links issues.

>>13943918
>moving the goal posts
Oh first it was both manual and automatic selection were prone to Sybil attacks. Now that I explained it to your brainlet self it’s just automatic selection (non KYC for you brainlet) that’s open to Sybil attacks? Interesting.

>>13944022
manual and automatic selection do not prevent sybil attacks, otherwise KYC would not be the main factor in preventing sybil attacks.

YOU ARE A RETARD LMAO

>>13944058
>31 posts by this ID

>>13944058
Once again. Manual selection is when somebody goes to a verified reputation registry with KYC off chain and chooses their nodes. Who used KYC. So their identity is known. Imagine shilling a crypto while not even knowing what a Sybil attack is.

Ctrl + f chainlink

so chainlink should adopt PoCo algorithm?

>>13944097
ctrl + f iExec
literally the editor and 3rd mentioned coin on that page
imagine the smell
>>13944089
>So their identity is known
CRINGE

is this an iexec fud thread? sure seems like it

>>13944123
Nope. Informing linkies that their coin is going to get sybil attacked eventually or be centralized.

>>13942569
Everyone sees you harmonize with your boyfriend's butthole.

>>13944193
>dom peragnon

>>13942264
In theory everything can get Sybil attacked.

>>13944274
RLC makes sybil attacks obsolete.

>>13941479
Yup, Hedera Hashgraph and Tom Gonser are complete idiots and fell for a meme coin.

Unlike RLC, which has... um... uh.... (help me out here guys RLC is my biggest bag and I need it to pump)

>>13944347
RLC is just superiorly designed.
It's decentralized.
The coins are more spread out in circulation(meanwhile 65% of LINK is centralized)
and the PoCo algorithm is literally sent from God.

>>13944384
proof pls

>>13944419
proof of what

>>13944429
>superiorly designed
> decentralized
>the PoCo algorithm is literally sent from God

>>13944384
this is pretty based Q&A im seriously considering throwing 250 k into RLC

If RLC has decentralized oracles too, how is LINK not 0. Why has SWIFT not partnered with RLC if it has everything LINK does.

it doesnt make sense.

Why do we need LINK at all if RLC already has working decentralized oracle

>>13944449
RLC is superiorly designed in every way. Meaning, the potential amount of use cases are infinitely higher than link. From monetizing AI, to datasets, to general compute orders, it is fast secure and cheap from end-to-end. It's the first and best option for verifying off-chain real life events.(look up the iExec robots)

The PoCo algorithm is the main reason why it's superior. It's decentralized in that no one controls the iExec marketplace and people can create their own portals to access it. It's also more decentralized than LINK because link requires KYC for nodes, and LINK's coin circulation is 65% held by the team.

You need to do extra research on the PoCo algorithm if you want to understand why it's sent from God. There are a million articles about it.

>>13944505
The funniest part is RLC actually had decentralized oracles before LINK did. At least released. They even did the "we can get ETH's price" thing before LINK did.
https://iex.ec/decentralized-oracles/

SWIFT partnering with link doesn't mean much when you consider the amount of tech giants that partnered with RLC. I think a lot of the reason why LINK is higher is because of this board being a cult about it.

>>13944525
>>13944547
well. this sounds good to me. fuck it, i might as well invest. all the fud i hear about rlc is that its french

ill just wait an hour though. i want to see if theres anymore convincing fud

>>13944746
They're french-chink. Mostly chads too, except for one of the chinks looks like he has down syndrome but he's actually based as fuck.

I've been shilling RLC for years, there's no real FUD. Can't get much better than 0.7x ICO price unless BTC randomly dumps to hell.

>>13944248
>deflects deflection accusation
I think I broke the NPC's script library

>>13944746
They did post this chart which was pretty shitty.
Volume and price action has been pretty boring for RLC, every time price starts going up it just goes back down.
V3 was hyped but they released with a pretty average video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfIThShzefQ&feature=youtu.be

That's most of the fud I can think of so far. Otherwise, it's true LINK could in theory make RLC obsolete as decentralized computation is basically just one use case of decentralized oracles. It's actually not surprising that iExec is providing doracles since trying to solve decentralized computing ends up having to solve similar challenges to decentralized oracles.

All in all, good idea to have at least a suicide stack I think, but I haven't liked the way they hype things like V2 and V3 only for the release to be relatively underwhelming with price tanking hard after.

>>13944830
To be fair even though they retracted the chart based on it being "outdated" it still isn't false.
I will agree though that volume and price action have always been a bit low for a coin like this.
Yes, the v3 video was a bit underwhelming but IMO what major release in crypto hasn't been underwhelming?
Also, I think most people are overlooking the major thing in that video, the EDF partnership.

I don't think LINK will ever make RLC obsolete. In fact I think it's the other way around. They have decentralized computation on lock. They then make a sideproject oracle in the timespan it took sergey to drive to mcdonalds for a big mac.

My thoughts on the price going up?
This or next month we will see a fucking huge green dildo. There are big players eyeing the coin.

>>13944870
Your thoughts on the price going up are what literally any bagholder under hopium could say. You may be right of course, but 'big players are eyeing the coin' is a meme and you know it. It'll pump if it gets bullish news or adoption grows

>>13944986
It's not a meme when you consider the scope of the partnerships and eventual mainstream attention that it hasn't had yet.

But yes, adoption is everything, and is an inevitability.

I feel like LINK has grown a bit too much, y know? Im looking at all the other coins LINK has shilled, and they havent even reached 100 m market cap

>>13943371
This right here is a man who sold link at 20 cents then saw it explode to over a dollar and is desperately trying to cope with his decision. There is no way a no-linker would know this much about our history. This is a former link marine who lost hope and is now full of cope.

It’s everyone else’s fault but you own, right?
Pathetic.

>>13942375
it was a pretty successful plan honestly. obviously $1 was when everyone should have pulled out though.

>>13945645
Or maybe it's easy to know LINKs history when those words were spammed everywhere in the threat title, you deflecting scammer. Everyone sees how dishonest you are.

>>13946096
*thread title

Hon hon hon dorcle doracle problem baguette and doracles hon hon hon