/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13810333
Wtf are you talking about?

>>13810333
you live to see another day OP. congrats

Normies get nervous about you being nervous. You get extra nervous because they act strange and seemingly hostile towards you. Then you expect that from strangers too and you act nervous by default. The cycle continues.

Your childhood fucked you over good. We live in a society.

>>13810333
get ahead of the game and become an hero

You can't get fired from a mental asylum anon

>>13810333
nice trips pussy

>>13810344
He posted yesterday I think about being nervous and walking by his boss' window all day or something knowing the next day he had a meeting with her, and he thought he was for sure getting fired - something to that effect I believe.

>>13810333
Are you the guy from yesterday

>>13810374
Yeah. Instead I got screamed at, literally screamed at, for 90 minutes straight. It hurts worse to be honest. They said things like "DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND SOMEONE TO DO THIS JOB?!" so apparently finding a replacement who is willing to put up with them on short notice is hard. If I left today with no warning it would fuck them up for like 2 months. This is a school remember.

>>13810374
>tfw I now know what you're talking about
The way some people use 4chan is amazing. No back story, not once telling us he was the anon from yesterday.... just straight to the point like we were all supposed to understand

>>13810355
This has described a good number of interactions in my life, honestly.
Knowing that I'm going to intentionally quit on them as soon as I can helps me get through it though. I nearly broke out in tears 80 minutes into my verbal beating today.

>>13810407
What is your role? What do you do at the school?
Give us a good back story and we should be able to help a fellow anon out.

>>13810417
One time I posted something on /adv/ and 7 months later someone remembered me and my entire backstory. Every time I posted something even slightly related to it one or 2 people said they recognized my style of writing and knew who it was. It was incredible for me. This was like 4 years ago though.

>>13810424
I'm a teacher. I'm afraid to give too much away but I am a teacher and it's not in the USA but I am a US citizen. I'm not some weird English teacher either.

>>13810407
hey, at least you now know what they were on and on about.
little less stress, and maybe a little more motivation to find a different gig if you're worried about them looking for someone new

>>13810417
i picked it up straight away

>>13810436
More specifically what have you been doing as a teacher?

Don't worry Kim, Trump still loves you even if Xi and Abe is yelling at you

>>13810446
How long are you on biz?
I'll browse here for about 2hours a day at a maximum.

>>13810407
Use this as leverage. Demand stuff or just tell them to stop fucking screamng

>>13810439
I am 100% quitting as soon as I can though. I have a very long list that I've consistently thought about on my 2 hour commute every single day for the past year and I am committed in this decision.
They of course had a reason to be mad at me, something I had apparently done while teaching (nothing weird or inappropriate, just a confusing way of teaching the lesson apparently that I thought would work but apparently was too challenging). But I don't actually intend to be a teacher anymore. I took this just to "get a job" because I couldn't find anything else over 5 months of looking.

Essentially they've decided to meet with me like this almost every day for the next few year, actively monitor every lesson I try to implement, keep them for records, and watch/record as many as possible. Only me, nobody else in this school. They consider themselves a really prestigious secondary school but still, this amount of stress every single day just hurts. And they have 1 really nice girl who just asks me stuff like "hey... this is probably really stressful for you huh? If you want to talk about any of it, I'm here to chat if you ever need me." It's very weird for me and it's clear this isn't a good match for me anymore.

Sorry for "reddit spacing," this is kind of a big point: The reason finding a new job is so difficult for me is because it means relocating my wife and kid and that takes some time.

>>13810407
Who cares? I don't give a fuck if people yell at me. It's not my problem.

>>13810407
I'm glad I don't work in an environment like this I'd take it outside of work there would be school administrators having accidents.

>>13810463
>>13810446
For some clarity so people here don't think I'm just complaining, another coworker who's been here 4 years told me "I'm quitting this year. [our mutual boss] has been actually abusive, screaming and lying about me in front of the entire staff for years. I have therapy and medical records to prove all of this. I just want to get back at her so badly." I had to talk her into not doing anything to get back at her, that "once you leave here, you won't ever have to contact anyone here again, including me. It's so much better just to walk out the door and let them panic that someone's gone."
She told me this after like an hour of time chatting privately at a staff event. She's a little weird, sure, but the boss here really is horrible. Same one who shouted at me.

>>13810565
she was right, you sound like a fucking pussy. you missed the chance to team up with your co-worker to fix the problem

>>13810586
I actually didn't think she was THAT bad at that time.

>>13810407
Unless you're in the military getting screamed at is extremely unproductive and stupid. You did good quitting but go job hunting fast, garner coins before the big dump happens so you can buy cheapies.

>>13810629
Haven't quit yet. They don't know I'm going to but I can tell they're lying when they said "We're trying to train you to be a leader here for YEARS to come."

>>13810417
Stupid brainlet. His last thread was yesterday. How did you forget so soon?

>>13810518
This much stress from being a teacher at a secondary school.

Women shouldn’t be managers of anything

>>13810646
Guy, you ever consider that you're 100% wrong and simply paranoid?

>>13810333
Right now, you're in a very delicate "deal" with your employer. They need you and can't replace you but you're not exactly what they want. You need your job and don't like them but you want to quit and know that they'll fire you if they can. Each party doesn't trust each other and will shoot once they get a bullet. They'll shoot once they find a replacement and you'll shoot once you can leave. Until then, you both have to play the pretend "best buddies at work and we want to help you and everything is good :)" (Delusional lies/gaslighting/drinking the koolaid) charade. This of course, is just really awkward and stressful for any sane human, so I don't blame you for feeling this way.

This is just business, anon, the Wild West. Every man is for himself and most will throw you away like garbage if they need to, don't take it personally and play the game back at them and grow thicker skin.

>>13810417
>he doesn't browse every day
ngmi

>>13810333
Is there an HR department you can speak with? Being screamed at is threatening and a fireable offense. Hostile work environments in todays society are a no-no.

>>13810663
Yeah I really have. I'm not wrong here. Yesterday I was overly paranoid but today pretty much confirmed they would absolutely fire me if they could. I've seen 5 people be fired here in the past year, but they were easier to replace than me. I'm right about this.
>>13810662
The kids I teach tense up like a plank whenever this person talks to them too so it makes it even harder. I've talked a lot to these kids because they're basically the only sane people in the school and the administrators acting like this gives them real stress too. Hard to explain what it's like having every action I do at work monitored like this because people think that as long as I'm doing the job correctly, what's the problem? But every time I teach something I have to sit for 15 minutes of feedback or so and in a fairly large staff and was clearly hired at the last minute when the last guy they had ran out overnight and never called back. He ghosted them. I'm the rookie of the entire staff and this is why they're doing this. Starting to see why the last guy did that.

>>13810663
Teaching is government contract work that is highly cutthroat, cult-like, and operates like the bourgeoisie. The admins have all the power and them and their little buddies get to do what they want while being protected under heavily lobbied gov regulations, public moral high ground, connections, and seniority. If you don't fall in line with them then they get rid of you.

>>13810646
Don't drink the brainwash drugged rhetoric (Indoctrination). Find a new job first then quit.

>>13810663
* I don't think it would be bad for you to talk to your manager peoples and explain to them Why you feel like they are about to fire you and to then ask what you could do to improve the situation.

If you have convinced yourself they are firing you
even though clearly they didn't fire you
then you do not have a clear picture of what expectations they have of you. If you do what you're supposed to do, you wouldn't worry about being fired or not.

Anyway, hope you'll find something better after your 8 months.

>>13810709
There was a higher boss here but something happened to them, seriously, that prevents them from being accessible to speak with for a few months. I know I sound vague but a smart person could make a reasonable guess where I am if I say more. Basically the stressed out person shouting at me in front of the rest of the staff is her own boss temporarily.

>>13810732
>Teaching is government contract work that is highly cutthroat
This is what it feels like. I haven't had enough other jobs, just 1, to really compare though. We are literally contract workers though and there is "Firing Day" once per year where this woman tells us each "re-signed" or "fired" for next year and that one day nobody wants to talk with each other.

>>13810333
haha great larp op

>>13810446
I am sure you did champ. We are all so proud of you.

>>13810739
I think teaching well and being good at it is a skill, not something I can just "do" anymore. Because even when it seems like I've done everything right when they actually watch me teach they get upset about questions I answered or things I said naturally in a lesson. So you might think "just stick to the lesson exactly, almost like a script" but then I got scolded for being not fun enough and too bland. I know there are great teachers out there, but it just feels like there's no winning for me here. I've even watched the "great teachers" here sometimes but from my perspective, they're making mistakes too but because it's just me and not the boss watching nobody cares. I'm sure it is a skill and I just don't get it yet, but because I apparently lack that skill, kind of, I can't seem to tell what makes a lesson good or bad anymore so I'm doing what I think is best to help them learn and hoping the boss likes it.

>>13810765
I'm a possible would-be teacher in Chicago (Still contemplating going into it but I think I might go into something else), and every year teachers have a, like you say, "firing day", where they will go through the teachers and decide who made it into their club (Who they like), and then fire ("let go") everyone else, since they're all basically contract workers. Happens most in CPS (The public state schools) where the admins have even more power.

>>13810417
This isn't fucking reddit, you're expected to be in the loop or figure it out. We don't spoonfeed people and fuck niggers and kikes.

>>13810431
>>13810431
I remember you. How are things now. Get yourself back up and running?

>>13810842
They have this official check-in where they check on everyone's classes and do some interviews before that day that's supposed to be "the only time you are officially judged," a typically performance review kind of. But I've been "reviewed" over 50 times this year. It just doesn't make sense any more.

>>13810812
I feel you completely anon. It's because "teaching" is not a hard-skill anymore; the women and welfare state have turned it into a soft skill with 0 competition. That's why education is garbage and looked down on today, because frankly, it is and should be. Anyone can be a teacher as the certifications and education programs you have to go through are completely devoid of any solid facts and hence, easy as fuck and pointless. This is why the teaching field is so heavily over saturated with complete fucking retards and most of your teachers growing up were skill-less dipshits who taught out of a book and not their brain (They don't have one).

This means bro, that they can really say whatever the fuck they want about your teaching and justify in some fucked up way with mental gymnastics. It's not about you being a good teacher, it's about whether they like you or not and if you think and teach like them. If you do, you're a "great teacher". If you don't, "you need to work on...", "try to engage the students...", "well you did X, but not Y".

>>13810460
Jesus OP. If you are going to repeat the comment question in your own post at least green text the thing. Your post reads like you asking yourself the question. Ruins my ocd when scrolling

>>13810886
Nice try but those threads were about some completely different things, relationships and my now wife.

>>13810562
>m'accident

>>13810889
It's because they don't like you and are being overly critical of you so they can find a reason to can you.

>>13810916
Oh sorry. I must be thinking of someone else. You the guy with the micropenis or the guy caught his wife with her brother?

>>13810896
>the certifications and education programs you have to go through are completely devoid of any solid facts and hence, easy as fuck and pointless
I agree with this after speaking to so many of them and being bombarded with conflicting opinions, especially about what activities kids are capable of understanding, it all just seems like a mess and it's clear they're all just using buzzwords when it's convenient for them. They actually quote studies when talking to me and I've looked up their studies and they are 100% of the time just pop-sci garbage like "how to get students to revel in their mistakes" articles. I majored in a STEM field.

Anyway the favorite line I ever heard from my boss was "There's a stereotype that girls aren't good at math which we obviously want to avoid perpetuating. So when you make the ones who aren't strong at solving math problems solve them in class, although you don't realize it, you're perpetuating the idea in their heads 'i'm not good math. I'm not good at math.' Try to avoid that." Basically she's saying not to let students who are bad at math solve math problems because it will only reinforce the idea that they are bad at math. I could make everyone just "learn through games" instead but I really thought about how backwards what my boss said to me that day was.

>>13810990
I really need to go back to /adv/. Surely it's not all relationship and cheating-on-my-boyfriend bait threads anymore...

>>13810436
Like I told you yesterday, you’ll never get fired anon. Teachers are basically unfireable.

>>13811019
Almost 1/3 of the teaching staff was fired here last year. This isn't the USA and there is no union here.

>>13810746
Document each instance with time, date, witnesses and what was said.

You have to build documentation for HR or a lawyer if need be.

>>13810999
I completely agree with you about the jargon bullshit and the math example you brought up. They don't teach kids or fix anything, they just use jargon to hide behind the insane practices they actually perform to cover-up or ignore what they're supposed to be doing for children.

OP are you the guy from yesterday with 35j in crypto and 130k in the bank? Also your boss is a woman?

>>13811071
Yes and it's 160k in crypto, thankfully. Yes she is and I am completely certain I would have had a better time with a male boss, but it's not like I didn't realize this when I signed up for the job. I stupidly put myself in this position.

>>13811019
There is a controversy right now where a teacher at my old school was flirting with and texting students and they can't fire him because technically he did nothing illegal lmao. Based Chad

>>13811300
Yeah.. this country wouldn't give a fuck if there was anything illegal. They fire people for anything, legal or not.

Imagine letting someone give you shit for 90 mins when you have leverage. OP learn to stand up for yourself and don't let this sit on you what the actual fuck. You have to earn respect. Nobody will respect you in life if you behave like this. I work in a very competitive industry (finance) where people scream at other people all the time but god damn you have to DEFEND yourself or it will never stop, especially if you hyve LEVERAGE. Go to her and demand an apology and a raise. If she does not deliver fucking quit.