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Why did we stop using real money?

>> No.13702396

(((jews)))

>> No.13702547
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>>13702396
fpbp
/thread

>> No.13702562

>>13702547
that's when they start MAKING UP money

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>>13702396
On second thought, FP youre retarded. The brackets are redundant.
>>13702376
OP just watch this. Its long as shit but worth it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbarjpJhSLw

>> No.13702590

>>13702376
If it's pegged to gold they have a hard limit on the money supply. With that gone they can lend out the same dollar 10 times while at the same time leasing out all the gold in their reserves while still claiming to own it.

>> No.13702622

>>13702376
>Why did we stop using real money?
it's hard for the government to steal enough real money without the people rebelling.
With fake money, it's easy. The government has turned everything into a racket.

>> No.13702724

>>13702622
Notice how we are working more even though we are exponentially more productive than 50 years ago?

Do you really think it's because our technology did this, or the perverted accounting of (((float fiat)))

>> No.13702752

Pretty easy to change the backend once people are used to paper.

>> No.13702773

Because we went bankrupt to international bankers

Everything is credited through your signature. Loans are usury. All the money in circulation today is fake

Mandell House Quote google it. 1933 was when this system was implemented

Its why im HUGE on Bitcoin. Most persons (slaves) wont believe me. Bills (commercial liens) sent to your mailbox are spelled the same way like a dead man's on a tombstone is.

You don't speak the same form of English that lawyers and bankers do. Why teach your slaves your language (proper syntax of english)

>> No.13702787

>>13702376
The civil war is when free banking ended in the US

Take with that what you will.

>> No.13702789

>>13702376
Went off the golf standard

Hyper inflation was only a when, not if

>> No.13702802

>>13702789
Gold*

>> No.13702809

>>13702582
was jesus mad at the money changers (those charging high prices converting between difference currencies) or the money makers?

>> No.13702810

>>13702773
If you read the 14th ammendment of the consitution in proper syntax of english (legalese) it made us all equal by making ALL OF US slaves. Sections 2, 3, and 4. It's /x/ tier conspiracy level shit but its true. 33rd congress of the U.S. sold us into slavery

I rather be a person than a dirty jew

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>>13702773
>You don't speak the same form of English that lawyers and bankers do. Why teach your slaves your language (proper syntax of english)
Can you explain this more?

>> No.13702836

>>13702773
i agree with that, but hedge with other cryptos as well as silver

>> No.13702846

>>13702810
is that the whole "I am a free person of the united states" vs "i am a united states citizen"?

>> No.13702868

>>13702810
>>13702846
sorry i mean something like "i am a sovereign of the united states"

>> No.13702920

>>13702846
No. Every document from the government is written in proper syntax instead of plain english.

I have no clue what you're mentioning.

In black's law a person is a debtor in commerce. We're all considered vessels in commerce. This system was creates by very smart lawyers.

What is a vessel? Is it a human being or a ship? It's both.

What is a certificate? Gold certificate? A certificate is money, right?

Just like a boat or a ship you, as a VESSEL, was born in your mother's water. You went through a canal and before you could leave a CERTIFICATE had to be signed by the doc (doctor).

LIKE A SHIP BEFORE YOU COULD LEAVE A CERTIFICATE HAD TO BE SIGNED BY THE DOCK.

It's word magic anon. English words have different meanings in lawyer speak

>> No.13702941

>>13702868
Proper syntax is pretttyy difficult to learn, but its not impossible.

God speed

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>>13702809
>And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;
>Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.
>And he taught daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the chief of the people sought to destroy him,
>And could not find what they might do: for all the people were very attentive to hear him.

>ye have made it a den of thieves.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984877999718895616?s=19

https://streamable.com/m2wx4

If you want more detail: http://www.liberius.net/livres/Money_manipulation_and_social_order_000000317.pdf

>> No.13703013

>>13702832
Im not trying to derail. You either believe it or you don't. We did go bankrupt to bankers and that's why we stopped using real money. I went to prison for this information. I gave up my only resource for this.

Talk to someone old and ask them about those times. They'll tell you all about it.

>> No.13703019

>>13702920
i heard all that in a youtube documentary by a great speaker like 3-4 years ago
would you happen to have a link to that video?

also, here's what I was referring to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement

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>>13702832

>> No.13703059

>>13702376
Gold standard is inferior to Keynesian economics.
Have fun with your gold stack when asteroid mining of gold begins.

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>>13703019
I never understood how a sovereign could also be a citizen when you're your own authority. Pic related

I fear thats misinformation thats put out to confuse persons. There's a lot of negativity surrounding that buzzword

>> No.13703194

>>13703059

>missing the point so hard
>it's better to just inject debt into the (( our )) controlled manufacturing industries goyim, it will make the money flow towards (( the people )) consumer industries, don't forget to let the quantitative easing to flow too, trust me, economy works like that

>> No.13703217

>>13703194

>meanwhile we will use that debt to buy gold and silver, but don't get too nervious goyim, it's just to create jewels haha, it's some family tradition nothing serious, it means nothing, accumulate cash and pay debt please

>> No.13703237

>>13703194
Stop being poor.

>> No.13703348

1913
1973

>> No.13703408

>>13702773
Lawyers argue over letters.
Jesus was like a Neo figure in that he knew the Letter (Jewish code) better than the gatekeeper Pharisees (Agent Smiths).

Syntax rules are only real because they prescribed minutae codes where the slaves are made to feel shame when they break them.

Sidestepping the matrix of money (debt and credit) is what they have done but prescribing slave rules for everyone else.

Pick your pill wisely

>> No.13703503

>>13703013
>I went to prison for this information.
story time.

>> No.13703544

>>13703503
This, cough it up >>13703013

>> No.13703611

To put it simply; Real money has fallen out of favor due to one, it's easy as fuck to cheat the gov outta taxes. You get paid all in cash, long as you don't put over 10k at a time in the bank then the bank don't gotta report that transaction up the line, and thus to the irs. Plus theirs no way for the Govt to track how much you really make in a year if it's all in cash. Why do you think bars and shit is so much in demand? Cause they are mostly cash only business. It's a safe bet that however much the owner reports on income to the irs to keep them off his back is only maybe half of what he really makes in a year.

The Govt knows this, so they are doing everything they can to make cash disappear. Also banks don't keep hardly any cash on hand anymore compared to even 10 years ago, not due to robbery attempts or shit but to keep people from going back to using just cash.

>> No.13703671

>>13703611
The reason people fuck up is that they go nuts with it. Flash loads of cash around like its nothing, buying expensive ass cars/homes/etc with nothing but cash is gonna raise a red flag to the irs to put it mildly. But if you spread it out over time, keep it low key, no one will be the wiser.

>> No.13703677

its amazing how dumb and ignorant everyone here is about money. literally the only bullshit you can spew is
>durr muh jeww muh hyperinflammation muh printing

>> No.13703680

>>13702396
Fpbp

>> No.13703704

>>13703059
Commies get the fucking rope, anon. Repent now.

>> No.13703738

>>13703611
Also now due to all money being basically "ones and zeros" it can be tracked real easy. The IRS knows how much you make due to direct deposit and W-2's your employer has to report to them each year. They know how much you spend due to people using debit/credit cards/online payment transactions. They see you pulling out loads of cash each month from your bank they'll start to ask why. They see how much you dump into your brokerage/retirement accounts. In short, your fucked.

>> No.13703824

>>13702396
Fpbp

>> No.13703826

>>13702396
Imagine being this much on a Nazi incel

>> No.13703908

>>13702582
based. I was going to link OP to this video.

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>>13702376
If we were still tied to a gold standard, then wouldn't that have limited our ability to grow economically? Isn't having trillions of dollars in fake money a good thing because it helps the economy grow? I feel like if we were still on a gold standard that we would have hit an economic glass ceiling by now.

>> No.13703964

>>13703921
Spending a trillion dollars you didn't have means government is supposed to cut a trillion dollars from another part of their budget.

Making the fed a private bank and then removing the gold standard means that the monetary cronies have no one and nothing to be accountable to

>> No.13703991

>>13702376
because banks were already finding ways to circumvent it anyways, and having a fixed monetary base is shit for helping us out of financial panics and crises

goldbugs are retarded

>> No.13704026

>>13703991
Every financial crisis in modern times is a credit crisis. CREDIT. It's not hard to figure out.

Boom and busts are not a natural part of capitalism

>> No.13704119

>>13702376

>Why did we stop using real money?

Our decades of big gov't spending finally caught up with us. Of course the gold standard officially ended when Roosevelt attempted to steal all of it. At that point, it was as good as dead, they knew there wasn't enough gold to successfully expand the money supply. So they just made it up. By 1970 it simply became obvious to the rest of the world who wanted gold back. No can do boss.

I think it's less conspiratorial, many empires towards their end started using more types of metals for coinage. The problem of supply compounds upon itself with a finite resource, particularly in the past with limited technology. You can't keep a growing gold money supply forever.

>>13703921

Technically yes. You're on the right track.

>>13703964

But it's not so simple because the material itself is finite. It takes a lot of time and labor to produce it. Paper is near infinite and digital is infinite.

>Making the fed a private bank and then removing the gold standard means that the monetary cronies have no one and nothing to be accountable to

Eh. I mean it's chairman is appointed. Theoretically the gov't could remove their monetary powers at any time, as it is written in the constitution. It's somewhat like contracting it out. It's quasi-public, not really private. It's not like the CEO of Amazon is elected by the senate.

But more into theory I think all debt based systems will implode eventually. Your ability to create more debt will always outpace your ability to produce stuff to buy. Eventually everyone must be in debt just for the system to survive. Gov't, corporations, municipalities, and people all up to their eyeballs in debt just to stave out the debt monster. All debt based systems consume themselves. Save all you want, the debt will come anyway. It has to grow or die. The debt has to grow or your economy dies.

>> No.13704133

>>13702376
Because gold is heavy and fake paper money is easier to disperse.

>> No.13704264

>>13704026
so why were they even more prevalent in the late 1800's?

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>>13703921
> Isn't having trillions of dollars in fake money a good thing because it helps the economy grow?
Technically yes but in reality you are just stealing from future generations who are born into servitude. It's no wonder so many young males are checking out of society, why should they be bothered fixing this eternal mess?

>> No.13704644

>>13704264
Are you trolling or serious?

>> No.13704721

Okay, /biz/, help me out here. If money were backed by gold, couldn't they still print as much money as they wanted? Wouldn't it just mean that the quantity of gold that one dollar represents would decrease as the supply of dollars was inflated? So the only way to maintain economic strength would be to stockpile gold, right? But how does the competition for gold by governments actually promote commerce as compared to the current debt-based model?

>> No.13704728

>>13704644
how far back do we have to go? gold-backed money is shit, full-stop

would you like to return to the wonders and quality of life of the 1600's?

>> No.13704731

This thread full of conspiracy theories and childish lack of knowledge on the level of Flat Earth is still up? No wonder /biz/ is trash.

>> No.13704834

>>13704728
>technology didnt improve your life goyim, it was us fractional reserve bankers!
What a retarded faggot you are.

>> No.13704864

>>13704834
Do you even know what fractional reserve banking is? Fractional reserve banking existed centuries ago when they had gold coins as currency

>> No.13705325

>>13704864
it existed when gold was stored in vaults, with papers saying "i have X gold in this vault"
over time, the owners of the vault can print out papers saying "this is good for X ounces of gold from Y vault"
they can give out more papers than there is gold in the vault, and no one is the wiser until everyone comes to redeem their papers

>> No.13705458

>>13704119
I have a hard time with the finite gold argument. I mean I know it's capped and mined. And there's not enough to represent the "amounts" on our books.

But I then look at the debt skyrocket after Nixon. This debt gorge has ended up malinvested across the system and it's hard to even keep track of.

In hindsight, I wonder if, all else equal, we wouldn't have grown out of the gold standard. It would have tampted down on enormous, useless debt by the government for useless shit. A standard like that makes it harder for govment to waste it on whatever their pet project of the month is.... and that's what has been going on for decades

>> No.13705770

>>13702809

He was mad that a place of worship had become a market. He wanted the worship in one place, and the market in another. Jesus had no problem with money, andwas in agreement that people who benefitted from the services of kings and emperors should pay tax, as the taxes were due.

>> No.13705791

Can someone redpill us on LEGALESE please

>> No.13705824

$1000 in cash will last me a couple of months. $1000 in the bank lasts me a week. It's easier for me to spend when it aint physical