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Does he have one? Surely he's not stupid enough to believe that Tesla will actually deliver real self-driving cars any time soon. He keeps making absurd claims in public. I have three theories about Musk and none of them fully make sense to me:
1) He is a sociopath who lies while fully knowing that he is lying.
Problem - surely he understands that this would only get him into deep trouble fairly soon.
2) He is stupid.
Problem - he is smart enough to have gotten this far.
3) He has gone insane from buying into his own optimism and bullshit.
Problem - then why do his lies seem so carefully calculated?
What am I missing here?

>> No.13447832

becoming a company celebrity like steve jobs or bill gates. you keep hearing about him instead of his company.

>> No.13447852

>>13447808
im not sure if this guy has had plastic surgery but it honestly looks like someone fucked his face up

>> No.13448039

>>13447808
Full self driving is already here! It's just waiting on regulator approval.
Take the time to learn about what you hate, how it works, and why the screeching media are wrong about Musk.

https://youtu.be/Ucp0TTmvqOE

>> No.13448077

>>13447808
Where did he come from?
He didn’t create PayPal he bought he from someone else as it was taking off.
There is a lot of mystery surrounding this guy.

>> No.13448151

>>13448039
Would you be comfortable getting driven from a given random house in SF to a given random house in LA in a car that has the most advanced currently-existing self-driving technology and no steering wheel?

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I'll explain

Elon actually works for the government. Special activities department, but whatever right.
He's got ONE (1) job: make the world PUBLIC think one guy is responsible for US space dominance.
That's his job. Okay?
It's called a psyop. I won't bore you with details. And it's the NSA that runs the real space programme with the Navy, but again just minor details, you don't get to see ANY of that. But regarding Tesla...
... Tesla is basically propped up by the govt in exchange for Elon providing his services.
It's his job to be a "thought leader" and have as many people as possible, especially the young, believing everything he says.

So there you go
Free secret information.
On a monogoian basket weaving forum.

Can I interest you in some rheinmetal ag shares?

>> No.13448622

>>13447808
Tesla is going to deliver real self driving cars soon. do you even know how deep neural nets work, how they are trained, etc?

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>>13447808
What trump is for politics, musk is for corporate america. Just a big fuck you to the sacred cows.
>fuck shareholders, ill just tweet out that we may be going private
>im building tunnels
>diver guy is a pedo
>ipo price $420 because dude weed lmao
>my companies are never profitable but im exploiting this system of bullshit to expose the tech we have avilable that is being suppressed
>who do you think owns (((the media?)))

>> No.13449338

>>13447808
Musk is Tony stark while Jeff bezos is literally lex luthor.

There will be an animeresque endgame fight to the death on one of their final bases on mars in 2043. In which bezzos uses a near endless number of mind controled wage cage work cucks vs musks self igniting battery powers.

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>>13448622
I cannot wait for quadruped sex robots that are legal to fuck. I am tired of fucking dogs.

>> No.13449590

>>13447808
Tesla's a public company. Part of his job is to pump the share price.

Maybe public companies were a mistake. But that's its own bag of worms.

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>>13447808

>> No.13449938

>>13448622
I'm a software engineer. I don't know that much about ML but I know enough to understand that Musk is full of shit or delusional.

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>>13449938

> ((I don't know much)) about ML or computer vision

> BUT HE'S FULL OF SHIT


Logic doesn't seem to be your strong suits anon. Do you just build websites or something or some gay design shit?

>> No.13449956

>>13449938
>I’m a software engineer and I know more than musk
Fucking millennials these days

>> No.13449958

>>13448151
yes, because it's safer than humans

>> No.13450003

It's not that I know more than Musk about ML, it's that Musk has a reason to lie about how advanced it is, whereas I don't.

>> No.13450005

>>13447808
He wants to get his ass to Mars.

>> No.13450020

>>13449956
>>13449956
read his recent tweet about how his cars are 500% less like to catch fire than ice. %00% less of any incident doesnt exist there is only 100% less and that means zero. HE doesnt even know basic math. His twitter profile bg is a cgi rocket render just like all the space shit they claim is footage. hes not an engineer nor does he know even 8th grade math % calcs. Its a joke he has so much money. the cars are cool and all but hes a fakey flake by his own words

>> No.13450035

>>13447808
What do rockets, gigafactories, solar power, autonomous vehicles and white Africans have in common? We're going to Mars, bitch! In Musk We Trusk.

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>>13447808
neuralinked

>> No.13450061

>>13447808
He wants to elevate humanity. You can call him arrogant or say he's all about his ego, but I think he's genuine about it. You need a big ego to have that as a goal. I'd like to see people on Mars before I die, so he's got my support.

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>>13450061

>> No.13450075

>>13449448
Fucking disgusting, IT'S A HAND NOT A HEAD

>> No.13450146

>>13450051
based
my bet is that musk's neuralink backfired and he's now under the control of some malicious third-party. he eats lion paws.

>> No.13450161

>>13447808
Most neets believe him because they dont drive. Go to the best cities in the usa and look at their roads. California literally ran out of funds and had to scam the tax payer for road funds with the .20cent tax hike this year. Go to any roads that lead to the airports. Theyre in really bad shape. But I dont care I started short selling and learning it more profitable specially since companies like tesla relies on their fans emotions.

>> No.13450162

>>13449951
>>13449956
A neural network is basically a universal function approximator plus gradient descent optimization. Since it is a UFA, it can theoretically compute any function (well, to be precise, not literally any function, but close enough for most purposes) arbitrarily well given enough hardware. But so can many other approaches - the UFA of typical neural networks is relatively cheap to calculate in hardware, however.
So this is what neural networks are.
Is the current state of neural networks advanced enough that cars using them can be honestly called fully self-driving?
No, and it's not even close. The best NN-driven cars can basically drive fairly well in optimal conditions, that's about it.

>> No.13450164

If you follow Musk's innovations it basically is a world that relies on solar battery power. Musk doesn't believe fusion is going to work.

>> No.13450170

>>13448039
Nigger and railguns are here but expensive as fuck and super heavy. Same here. The infrastructure would require massive taxes. You think you can get those taxes approved in say 10 years. Now remember everytime you bring it up in a election the opposite candidate will detract. Neets are oblivious to the real world.

>> No.13450172

>>13450050
If he can grow hair on that dome he can grow crops on the red planet.

>> No.13450174

>>13447808
It's all three. You're not missing anything- "startup capitalism" has been captured by delusional celebrities

>> No.13450193

>>13449938
Main developer of PyTorch disagrees with you on this. He claims that they are way ahead of Uber, and possibly catching up to/passing Waymo.

>> No.13450209

>>13450193
Neither Uber nor Waymo are anywhere close to having fully self-driving cars by any non-marketing definition of "fully self-driving". Even if Tesla is ahead, it means little.

>> No.13450427

I'm a software developer familiar with deep learning, I tried applying it to crypto in 2017. I've been working on training networks which render/simulate playable games. I watched the 2 hour presentation the other day, nothing unbelievable was stated or presented. They've got the data to train the networks to recognize the environment well enough to drive the car. It was inevitable someone would get there first and they presented a data collection method which is good enough to have gotten them there.

>> No.13450527

Elon makes toys. Toys that are crude immitations of black tech. The breakaway civs have ruined mankind by witholding the life improving stuff since tesla as to profit from suffering rather than renaissance.
Musk is deeply offended that everyone just tolerates for instancs the diesel tractors which cripple cities with terrible air quality, to deliberately ruin everyone's health, while keeping this legacy economy/jobbes alive due to the fact that the shit sucks. Resistance in the wire makes their luciferean light, they are burning out your innocence. Boomers literally are the product of leaded gasoline. People (cattle) are stockholmed to poisoned systems because the economy is dependent upon crazy inefficiencies and 'negative externalities'. Do as thou wilt, as the opposite of the 'Prime Directive'.

>> No.13450609

>>13447808
He gives me a jordan belfort vibe. Maybe he's just on drugs and his company is committing securities fraud

>> No.13450621

>>13448209
How do you explain the SEC going after his ass?