/biz/ - Business & Finance

>Result 3:
https://www.docdroid.net/NGm5t4e/1-5147965646574714903.pdf#page=133
Looks like the first time it was recorded that Sirgay owned the domain was on Oct 22, 2014
>Result 4:
http://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax.ca/forum/general-discussion/chainlink/
Boomers discussing Chainlink

>>Google search: “”chainlink" smart contract type:pdf”
>Result 0:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Habil_Kantur/publication/327337886_How_smart_contracts_can_change_the_insurance_industry_-_Benefits_and_challenges_of_using_Blockchain_technology/links/5b88e717299bf1d5a7334313/How-smart-contracts-can-change-the-insurance-industry-Benefits-and-challenges-of-using-Blockchain-technology.pdf?origin=publication_detail
Page 101

>> Google search: “"chainlink" oracle type:pdf”
>Result 0:
https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/fern-token-sale-prod-documents/public/fern-whitepaper.pdf
“Unsigned data from an external source contains no proof of authenticity, and thereisan inherent risk of interception.This interception threat is mitigated by a network of independent oracles that witness and sign the data, acting as a trustless bridge between the data source and the blockchain smart contracts (e.g. ChainLink [12]).”
Ctrl+f toyota
Ctrl+f chainlink
Ctrl+f
These guys seem like a big deal, but their dumb enough to not secure their S3 buckets :|
https://appliedblockchain.com/
Look at the site of the company making Fern. Look who they’re partnered with. They’re using CL (based on their Fern Whitepaper)

>Result 1:
https://www.fordham.edu/download/downloads/id/11907/blockchain_fall_2018_mark_r_patterson.pdf
Page 5

Fin

It's all so bothersome anon. Wake me up when we hit something reasonable.

>>13422845
>>13422853
>>13422869
>>13422883
kill yourself

>>13422922
Live stream plox

Just stop. You’re not gonna get rich over night or make an incredible unparalleled return off ChainLink. Buy Twitter stock if you want a good return.

>>13422965
Pipe down, pajeet. Humans are posting.

Thanks op for keall the ducks well fed.

>>13422922
>>13422933
>>13422965

Listen Rakeshes....
I'm gainfully employed, have a kid on the way and bored at work.
Figured I'd share findings...

>>13423006
>>13422971
I can dig deeper if y'all don't want to, but I think what I got is good enough

>>13422845
Breadcrumbs kek, you think this is 2018? We are over this bs, link is a scam just fucking sell phaggot

>>13423058
Hello timo

>>13422845
will I make it with only 5000 link?
I mean, 1 million usd for 5000 link.

>>13422853
>Looks like the first time it was recorded that Sirgay owned the domain was on Oct 22, 2014

Since before ETH was launched. Dang.

>>13422971
Interesting.
IBM data power+ESB...

ESB reaches EoL in 2020...
https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/printableversion.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/6/897/ENUS913-276/index.html&request_locale=en
They're recommending people move to IBM Integration Bus and WebSphere Service Registry & Repository.
(Links to both are at bottom of the above link)
>Nice find, anon.

Check out their video on Data Power Gateways...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzlcp8DmQps

>>13423108
Well, not exactly.
ETH was being discussed on multiple forums back then.
However; it is goddamn impressive.
>t. I bought when it launched and sold WAY too early....

>>13423076
Buy moar if you can.


>>13423058
You should invest in CLC, as you're their target demographic.

>>13422971
>>13423019
Ok...so you make investment decisions off of pictures of cubes that look like a logo, by pressing “control f” on random documents to see if they contain the words “smart contract” or “ChainLink,” and from people on an anonymous website telling you that a start up with an ERC cryptocurrency is going to make you rich and will change the world in “ways we can’t even imagine”....but we’re pajeets? Good luck with that method, you’ve clearly been wildly successful thus far.

>>13423323

Linkies are reaching incredible levels of nescient childishness.

2017 is over. Buy Twitter stock. Watch how much better Twitter equity performs versus ChainLink for the next five years.

>>13423323
You clearly didn't read any of the links I provided. It's far more than just referencing the project. Learn to read, Kumar.
See
>>13423342

>>13423363
TWTR is a pile of shit and you know it.
A good percentage of their users are bots.
Once the ad companies figure this out they'll pull and spend money elsewhere.

Anyway.
Dothereum will enable better scaling (sooner) than ETH will have (for a while--until Release1). They're also using LINK.

For some reason, I thought this would get more traction.
Back to the memes, then.

>>13423638
Thank you for your contribution anon. I appreciate it

And remember lads, CLC who want to raise money off of linkies hands with their scam ICO are responsible for dumping Link and the constant Link - FUD on this board. These people will use OUR funds to dump on us again and again. They CANNOT be trusted.
You ought to NOT give them a single cent of your hard earned shekels. We cannot support this outright scam in the Chainlink-ecosystem.
Just buy more Linkies instead and you will be golden..
God bless

>>13423638
Everyone's waging, including me. Wait until after 5.

>>13423717
Understood.
I'm waging as well...

This is the first time I've seen one of these threads and though, "This is pathetic."

I hope you stinkies figure it out some day.

Smart contracts alliance has been around for a while, but doesn't seem to have any public connection to ChainLink:
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/chamber-digital-commerce-launches-smart-contracts-alliance-1573063

https://digitalchamber.org/initiatives/smart-contracts-alliance/

Did you really find a Chainlink connection, OP?

>>13423400
You’re retarded if you don’t think Twitter is going to grow massively in the next three years

the type of delusion link has grown to.

>35 million tokens and no business model.

let that seep in

>>13422845
How does any of this suggest ChainLink is a “good investment,” and not an entirely speculative play that you googled? You don’t have much money, do you?

>>13422845
What happens when mainnet hits? Will I have to exchange my ERC tokens for something else? Or will mainnet use the same token?

This is the last time I'm mentioning this. This board is too dumb for breadcrumbs.

>>13423808
The user base might with India and other countries gaining internet adoption. Not sure how well that translates to value though

>>13423919

Honestly this.

>>13423919
In other words, buy LTC because Normie money will flow into it and make it moon, and then laugh at the poor NEETs here for running the ChainLink nodes that enabled you to get rich off of LTC, got it.

If you think that excerpt suggests anything otherwise, you need to revise your cryptocurrency investment strategy if you’re trying to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible. ChainLink will not “moon.” No one is speculatively chasing a “decentralized oracle network token.” Litecoin on the other hand...

>>13423919
bullish

>>13423926
If you don’t understand how Twitter is valuable...yet you’ve bought ChainLink tokens...you need to KYS and hope you respawn with a brain that functions better.

>>13424019
Desperate.

>>13424049
How do you figure?

Every time a coin pumps on Binance, it doesn’t cause BNB to pump simultaneously. IF ChainLink is even used for a fraction of these transactions (which is not guaranteed) why would that bid up the price of ChainLink? What is your logic?

This WILL unarguably bid up the price of Litecoin.

>>13424031
Ahh yes, the old kill yourself and hopefully respawn with better kit strategy. It really reallly tickles my asshole what I do in videogames, pajeets do in real life.

>>13424114
Because this is just an example of what Chainlink is going to be used for wit many more to come and not The Big Thing that's finally going to make it moon you pathetic retard.

>>13424049
Genuinely confused by your supposition that this would cause anything but an increase in volume of transactions over the ChainLink Network. Why would you choose to make a speculative play on a token that isn’t mentioned over one that is already being advertised and surely will be to customers when available??

>>13424134
What “Big Thing” is going to make ChainLink “moon.” Do you have an actual answer to this question or do you just repeat it and hope? I hold a bag of ChainLink but I dumped a lot at 55c because the next movement was obvious. I don’t think you realize: “adoption” doesn’t cause many things to moon. Adoption usually causes a regular (usually slow) increase in value: even for network products. Speculative hype causes “mooning.”

>>13424139
>>13424180
Fuck off already nigger I'm not here to convince you.

IF ChainLink garners use cases and proves to be a valuable tool for companies...it still needs to prove that it is worth $200M...let alone $1B, $10B+. If APIs in total are worth a ridiculous number like $1T in total...how and why does ChainLink garner a huge fraction of that profit share by adding that much value to the users of the network?

>>13424196
In other words, you don’t like taking a realistic look at the odds of your ChainLink lottery ticket? Why don’t any of you faggots actually like discussing the project you love so much. Pretty pathetic.

>>13424244
>um actually chain stink is bad because of this hypothetical scenario i just made up so you should sell just like i did
Cope. Don't buy back in.

>>13424280
The situation I proposed is the only non-hypothetical situation. I’ll buy back when I can make a profit. I’m not into losing money because I’m emotionally tied to an asset.

>>13422845


Love this. Thank you anon.

Great research on Chainlink.

This feels very much like the early days of Ethereum.

>>13424244
>Why don’t any of you faggots actually like discussing the project you love so much.
Why should I? I spent over a year trying to inform people. Now the board is the worst it's ever been and any attempt at defending LINK is met with a wave of copy pasted FUD. Not going to bother.

>>13424234
Blockchains and legacy systems will be using APIs for smartcontracts. We know this. So how does it give the LINK token value?

Its part of the Chainlink tokenomics.

LINK tokens are used as collateral value. Smartcontracts will use Chainlink nodes that carry a % value of LINK to the value of the Smartcontract. So yes, you can start a node without LINK but no one will use it. High value smartcontracts or any contract that has value will use nodes that carry the same or a % of value of LINK.

>>13424454
It's possible collateral required could be low.

If 1000+ nodes are contributing then maybe you don't care if they have collateral staked. Maybe that many nodes are so unlikely to be attacked or malicious that collateral is useless. And maybe 1000 nodes without collateral will do the job cheaper than some number of nodes that put up collateral.

>>13423740
https://www.perkinscoie.com/images/content/1/6/v2/164979/Smart-Contracts-12-Use-Cases-for-Business-Beyond.pdf
Yes, Page 44

>>13423808
Cool, dude.

>>13423898
Busted. I'm a broke 10yr old. Good job, Scooby.

>>13423919
Yes. People here are dumb as fuck. I saw this, too. It's great news.

>>13424280
Don't feed the <70


>>13424454
He's an idiot.
If he doesn't understand the concept of collateral+liability with high value contracts, then he hasn't DYOR enough.

>>13423919
You'll mention it again a thousand times in the next few weeks. Not buying your bags.

>>13424430
This is the true /stealth mode/, whittle away at the passionate people who want to inform others until all the new friends think it REALLY is a scam

>>13424430
could you please just fuck off

>>13424496

The whole point of collateral is to act as insurance against bad actors not just an attack, people giving false data.

So there is no way a $1 million dollar bond will use nodes with no collateral.

The derrivitve market, which Chainlink is aiming for, is worth Quadrillion. Think of the implications of the LINK token price if smartcontracts with LINK oracles capture just 1% of that.

>>13424521
No.

>>13424504
Good, don't buy. You don't fucking deserve link.

>>13424508
but your poor and there is nothing released, it actually is a scam

>>13424536
Cool, dood.
What you holding?

Also, look at reserve.org if you haven't already

Holy fucking shit, are there actually new fags here who dont know this crap? How many times has link token and fundamentals been ironed out? This must be fucking faggots intentionally trying to get (you)s at this point. Everyone here knows this shit. There is nothing nee to be discussed. This was done 2 years ago and all last year.

Do we actually have new fags or what?
I genuinely think LINK has faded to obscurity now to the point onky the old guard are gonna really get it. There will never be the caliber of discussion already had again

>>13424549
wouldn't want to miss out on that sweet -20%

imagine still holding this scam instead of selling it before it bleeds to 5k sats
buy bat idiots it will moon this week

>>13422845
>>13424544
>>13424536
>>13424499
Based. Thank you for sharing freely in spite of these absolute niggers.

kek /x/ thinks Sergey is a hillbilly white trash serial killer

it makes me happy to know that no one ITT will ever make it

>>13424580
t.

>>13424605
yeah, sorry, -50%

>>13424585
>Buy the top of 30 day 100% pump idiots

Seems legit, bought 100k

>>13424620
Desperate.

>>13424620
If you're down 50% on link then you deserve it, truly. That's a fucking feat.

>>13423638
I read all of it anon

>>13424560

Im 95% in LINK, 5% in LION.

Reserve.org has a great Chainlink mention.

Hows that project goin? is Coinbase still moving forward with this project?

>>13424536
What do you mean by “capturing 1% of the derivatives market?” What is that supposed to mean? It’s not like...exchanges “capture” derivative values. Why would part of a derivative’s value go to ChainLink? I could see it maybe creating some value, but what is “capturing a %” of a market??

>>13422845
thanks fren

STEALTHMODE MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!!

>>13424572
That’s what I don’t get, all of this shit was discussed in 2017

I could understand if the market for chocolate chip cookies is $100M per year so you want to “capture” some of those customers...but what does that mean for the financial instrument market? You hope that they use ChainLink for part of the contract? Why would that “capture” X% of the contract value?

>>13424741
Catch aids.
>>13424742
Don't remember the links OP posted back then.

If someone wants to step up his autismo-game
https://ahrefs.com/blog/google-advanced-search-operators/
Keep /quality biz/ clean fags

>>13424772
Obviously I was referring to the semantics of link ya dip

>>13424536
REMINDER THE LINK PENALTY DEPSIT CAN NOT AND IS NOT INTENDED TO PROVIDE INSURANCE TO CONTRACTS

CONTRACTS THAT FAIL TO EXECUTE PROPERLY CAN NOT BE VERIFIED BY CHAINLINK AS THE NETWORK WILL ALWAYS DETERMINE THE WAY IT EXECUTED AS THE CORRECT EXECUTION EVEN IN THE EVENT OF A NETWORK ATTACK FAILURE OR BAD DATA

IT IS NOT COLLATERAL AND IT IS NOT INSURANCE

>>13424719

smartcontracts will be capturing much more then 1% of the derivatives market.

but this is what I mean.

Look, this has been discussed but maybe its still not clicking for a alot of people

Smart contracts will not work without decentralized oracles feeding it data (derivatives example). Any kind of market data...... gold, interest rates, oil, etc etc etc..

Smart contract creators will want insurance via LINK collateral just in case oracles try to feed bad data to the smartcontract to create an advantage to one side of the participants. If they send bad data the smart contract creator can penalize the LINK node buy taking the collateral if a party of the SC was wronged in some way.

Get it now?


going back to 1% of the derivatives market. Yes, banks and fintech are all moving towards automating their derivatives via Smartcontracts. They have no other choice because it is cheaper and more trustworthy. People, keep in mind what the value of a world powered supercomputer on auto is. LINK token is the only token in crypto that is designed to capture the value of connectivity to and from blockchains --> legacy systems.

LINK is like investing in the internet in the 90s accept this time HTTPS is token and the bigger more useful the internet is the higher the HTTPS token price goes.

BTC devs aren't stupid. A lot of features aren't on Bitcoin because they just don't work. Decentralized oracles do not work.
Everything gets sybil attacked and how do your prevent that? Centralized reputation providers, wow great, might as well trust a centralized oracle in the first place.

1:24:15 https://youtu.be/etRUrqF-CYQ?t=5055

>>13424836
Yeah but it's new info and imo warrants being brought up and discussed to OP's credit.

>>13424884
Pack it up boys, we’ve officially reached the limit of human creativity and innovation. Decentralized oracles will never work, just give up

But to answer your lame fud, trusted execution environments, bitch

>>13424692
Not that I have located so far.

>>13424572
Been on this educational cartoon forum since ~2005.
Been on /biz for ages. I'm able and willing to help the newfags make money.
>>13424742
I'm the faggot that found most of the crumbs back in 2017.
It's important that as many of us make it as possible.
>>13424814
Cheers

>>13424884
Whether people like it or not chainlink is the ONLY decentralized oracle solution close to launch.

We can debate whether it is perfect or not but that's a useless conversation because no matter what everyone deploying smartcontracts will use them. And that is the point, usage.

Bu the way

"Anyone that solves oracles will be worth more then crypto itself"

- Richard Heart

Hint: chainlink has come the closest if not completely solved oracles

>>13424884
>Centralized reputation tracking

You're clearly sub 50.
Someone is working on reputation and will release it this year.
Open source.
ANYONE will be able to run reputation nodes.

It's all so tiresome

>>13424964
>>13424890
Strap me in, I’m rock fucking hard, ready for lift off

>>13424964

You are not educating new friends. You are just giving free (you)s to faggots trying to fud for fun.

Hell i used to fud link a lot but even that is boring now. There is no new information to vet in the fud/shill cycle. Till there is all we have is the same
Fags doing same shit in a bizzare self regulating IQ screen for any genuine new fags.

>>13424853
>Smart contract creators will want insurance via LINK collateral just in case oracles try to feed bad data to the smartcontract to create an advantage to one side of the participants. If they send bad data the smart contract creator can penalize the LINK node buy taking the collateral if a party of the SC was wronged in some way.
Do I want insurance via btc staked as collateral just in case miners try to send my btc to a different address than the one I specified?

>>13425072
Fair enough.
>>13425047
Good shit, anon. Patience.

>>13424964
Why is it important for us to make it?

I AM GROWING TIRED. MY PATIENTS IS GROWING THIN

CANT WAGESLAVE MUCH LONGER. SAVE ME SERG

>>13425205
This question doesn't make sense.

>>13425268
what the fuck, it just clicked.
Thanks for spoonfeed, seriously.

>>13425384
The world is going to get very interesting in the next ~10 years.
It's important that the correct, based, people have money.

>>13426053
How certain are you of this?

>>13426053

more mindless consumerism and hedonism becoming a common thing? seems like just more possibilites to make money. certainly less competition on the job market too, ambition is scarce already.

>>13426215
>ambition is scarce already.
I dont know about that, every dating profile I read says they are 'very ambitious', never see one say they arent ambitious.

>>13426237

hahaha, could be. I luckily wifed up in pre-tinder times.

From what I undertand being "very ambitious" goes hand in hand with being into netflix, "good food" , "good music" and "travel"?

Right now I feel like a complete idiot.
t. 100k link bags

>>13426215
Too much to type....

>>13426157
Quite.

>>13426393
Because you see how retarded the other people who bought Link are? That’s why you never buy to hold in this market.

>>13426393
1 post
tries to fud
where's the effort?

>>13426675
It’s not fud. Been holding for almost 2 years now. Lost 5 BTC in sats past month.

>>13426053
I think about this every single day

express dissatisfaction because of all the bs, get call fudder. After Lit shiller i realised you guys are all scammers, using the same tactics.

>>13427511
Societe Generale issued the first covered bond as a security token on a public blockchain. They were one of the 5 firms that partnered with Chainlink's parent company SmartContract for a bond POC. Wonder what Oracle they choose now?
>ChainLINK

https://www.coindesk.com/swift-startup-winner-demos-smart-contract-trade-5-financial-firms

OP I wanted to say thanks. I appreciate your efforts. You make a lot of people in discord sperg out with this information.

>>13422883
This looks like a class' syllabus. From page 5: "This class will involve a presentation by Mark Oblad, Head of Operations at
SmartContract, the company that offers ChainLink."
So they had Mark as a guest lecturer? Do you think this professor video recorded that lecture? Might be worthwhile to email Professor Mark Patterson

>>13422845
Kill yourself

>>13427860
Chainlink Discord Trannies are the worst trannies that have yet to kill themselves.

>>13428433
>>>13422845 (OP) (You)
>Kill yourself

Brilliant job bumping the thread, fag

>>13423342
>until Chainlink OR A SIMILAR SOLUTION IS AVAILABLE AND TRUSTWORTHY

AKA BE PREPARED TO WAIT A DECADE WITH THE CONSTANT THREAT OF ANOTHER PROJECT OVERTAKING IT

>>13422845
Crypto is a scam. Everyone on biz is poor and retarded. I hope you all get aids.

>>13423363
>shilling Twitter stock on biz
Kek this place never ceases to amaze me. Kys faggot

>>13426053
In what sense? Deeper into clownworld or actual interesting shit like AI/VR/LE. Because both are happening

>>13427860
Fantastic. Clearly they need more testosterone replacement tho if this enough to make them mad.

>>13423740
You're new here.

SXSW 2018

"Are we getting rid of lawyers?"

>>13424499
>Yes, Page 44
Nice. Thanks, anon. I don't know of any other project that fits their description like chainlink does. They even specifically mention triggering off-chain events which I don't think I've seen even the most desperate, me-too, late-coming losers (e.g., Komodo) mention.

We're all gonna make it

Can't wait till my real life can begin

>>13427526
Holy fuck imagine

>>13427860
This. Thanks, OP!

>>13428531
This. Thanks anon!