/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13413388
so based! Look at all those diplomas on the wall. What a chad!

does this fag have absolutely no fucking idea of the discussions and battles that went on during the late 90’s pertaining to the ideological battlefront of “computerz as utopia” away from “big corp n gov tm” only to be retorted by “muh financial institutions tho”. Bitcoin was absolutely designed to topple these institutions and thereby secure the ideological utopian netscape that some group of people believe in.

based

>>13413467
he was in the middle of it you retard

>>13413388
>It’s not a protest against government
It is, though. The precursor to bitcoin was E-gold, which had been raided and shut down.

>>13413475
>>criminality doesnt pay
I can see how Craig would be the perfect embodiment of an upright citizen that in no way is profiteering from criminal, fraudulent or manipulative behaviour.

STIFF
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looking forward to creg getting shrekt in court

>>13413388
He mad

>>13413475
And sold the cypherpunks down the river. What more can one expect from a bread thief?

CSW is to Bitcoin as SCO was to Linux.

Was this part of the whitepaper?

>>13413514
>Falling for the "Faketoshi is a criminal/scammer" meme this hard
He's never been prosecuted much less convicted of a single crime, but I'm sure the Twitterati brainlet brigade is right in this case. The legal system is for fags, amirite?
>>13413524
Can't wait to hear the autistic screetching of people like you when CSW goes to court and all the retarded "influencers" on Twitter get rekt.

>>13413543
>Wahh, wahh, CSW doesn't do everything like I want, he is a traitor to our fringe neckbeard ideology.
Facking morons.

>>13413572
>mining poo
what did they mean by this?

>>13413572
What's the point of any whitepaper?

>>13413582
neither have the “criminals” Craig is referring to.

>>13413600
I'm the moron holding bitcoin at $5557. You're the moron holding chocolate bitcoin at $57.

Still, at least you're being paid to post here. Hopefully in BTC rather than BSV

>>13413629
Illiterate retard.
>>13413653
Meanwhile in 2012 on bitcointalk:
>lol, I'm the moron holding gold at $1300. You're the moron holding digital foolz gold at $13. Everyone knows that the higher the price of an investment, the more it will go up!
Enjoy living out the rest of your NPC existence.

Get in here for your daily dose of hopium >>13413573

>>13413653
yeah I get paid 25 cents for every post.
It costs $7 for my boss to transfer that 25 cents.
Soon I'll be able to afford to send my bitcoin to coinbase... I wont have any left over but oh well.

>>13413710
Get paid in BSV. Then you either have to wait 60 blocks to be sure you don't get reorged, or lose 20% of what it's worth because its plummeting so fast (assuming you find an exchanged you can sell on)

>>13413687
Yes sir, you did the needful, many moneis will come to you sir

>>13413747
>"HURR DURR, make sure you don't get reorged."
>Thinks that a reorg means your transaction doesn't get confirmed.
>Doesn't understand the game theory behind mining.
It's honestly embarrassing at this point. The cleansing cannot come soon enough.

>>13413572
50% OMEGALUL

>>13413687
same shill fag so same response to your brainlet IQ

>>13413786

>>13413572
now I see why coingeek is shilling bsv so hard, kek

>>13413831
Coingeek is owned by Calvin Ayre, the billionaire who has supported Craig for a really long time.

Here's a video of Ayre talking about Wright and his behaviour:
https://youtu.be/qVUY3G8_ViM?t=615 10:15

Here's a quick rundown on Ayre:
Calvin Ayre built the online gambling empire Bodog in the early 2000’s, which eventually had 16 million customers and made him a billionaire. Shortly after the U.S. enacted legislation regulating online gambling in 2006, several high-profile online gambling executives were arrested. But Bodog, still headed by Ayre, was virtually untouchable because it had no presence in the U.S. and he was a Canadian citizen with no assets in America. Ayre soon sold Bodog’s online gambling business and retired from the industry. He was eventually indicted in 2012 by the U.S. Attorney for Maryland for offering gambling services to U.S. customers between 2006 and 2012 but federal prosecutors dropped all the felony charges in 2017 after Ayre pled guilty to a single misdemeanor charge.

>>13413987
>Coingeek is owned by Calvin Ayre
okay, now I understand even more and I think biz's bsv shillers are getting paid, no way anyone is that fucking stupid

>>13413987
>for a really long time.
well, since 2015 at least. maybe i shouldnt call that "a really long time". though 4 years are almost half of bitcoin's existance.

>>13414024
you do your thing bro

>>13413987
>>13414036
I thought you were anti-bsv anon relating to this >>13413987 post, then I saw your name, kek

how is that >>13413987 supposed to be a good thing?

>>13413687

>>13414094
Just posting the info, I'll let you decide if it's good, bad or irrelevant.

>>13414304
okay, I think it's bearish af

0.0102
mass suicide at 0.009 ?

>>13414293
based

>>13413388
>It’s not a protest against government, it’s a method that over time will replace SWIFT with something that cannot be easily bypassed by criminals or even governments.
A couple of chinks can reorg this shit with minimal effort, no hashrate, no security
KEK

>>13413388
So at what point will Bitcoin Core or BSV ever have any actual use cases besides "hold onto it and sell it for useful currency"?

Alt coins have completely taken over. BTC is a hold, digital cold or whatever fucking meme you want to call it. BCH and BSV are useless.

This drunk pretentious faggot isn't Satoshi and no amount of retroactively editing blogs or shilling anonymously on 4chan will convince me he is.

If you believe he is Satoshi despite him never demonstrating control of Satoshi private keys, you are a gullible brainlet who should stay out of crypto for your own sake. Your IQ is too low for anything except index fund investing.

Now seethe.

by who?

>>13415270
aside from him not being satoshi...

... who the HELL writes like that
it's just one big faker show even back then
>muh study
>muh wine
>muh nose of tobacco leaf
>muh nutmeg bechmel
>muh Handel
>muh latest SANS course
>muh I have purchased online (LMAO)
>muh screen with my wife.... LYNN

>>13415270
>IT WAS CRAIG'S SECRET PLAN ALL ALONG! HE WAS BLATANTLY SLANDERED! THEY ACTUALLY HACKED ARCHIVE.ORG TO SLANDER CRAIG, HAVE YOU HEARD?

Oops haha looks like your man's a fraud

Never trust a drunk and never trust an australian

>>13414293
>Building a third layer on top of the rickety shitshack that is LN.
*Inhales*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*cough* *cough*
*ahem*
AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Friendly reminder to all SV chads: in the future when some socialist faggot is on the Talmudvision kvetching about how *unfair* it is that some people got rich from the worlds first fully functional programmable hard money, remember all the NPCs like >>13414293 who didn't get it - remember why these ignorant masses who didn't do their homework and skulked in the comfort of the herd deserve nothing less than a life of servitude for trying to drag down all of humanity, through nothing but their sheer stupidity.

>>13415314
yeah his writing is full of fedora tipping cringe, it's difficult as fuck to read more than 1 or 2 lines without experiencing actual physical pain

>>13413489
That's why he made Bitcoin legal and applicable with laws, so it would not be shut down. And it didn't.

That's why Craig Wright is a genius, and if you want to break the law you go to jail. Have a nice life!

>>13415314
It's how a professional bullshitter talks. You can spot them a mile away if you've worked in finance or tech.

>>13415386
Are you a late arrival to crypto or something? They've been trying clamp down on bitcoin for years before the current bubble. It's just that little can be done other than regulating exchanges.

>>13415345
>describing yourself

>>13415400
He's just a bullshit artist, goy. You shouldn't look too deeply into anything he says. tRuSt Me!
>>13415428
Yeah, it's almost like the can't LEGALLY SHUT DOWN BITCOIN ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN RULES. I'm sure that was just an incidental feature of the design though... probably just a coincidence!

>>13415443
>CSW is supported by the masses/mainstream
Imagine being this dumb or desperate to maintain your narrative.

>>13415428
No they haven't even JP fucking Morgan is getting into crypto, and there's almost no government hostility towards it, it's a mainstream industry now.

They couldn't subvert it by law, so they subverted it by code and social engineering instead. That's why we have the Blockstream kikes who intentionally crippled the entire chain and made sure it couldn't scale. Now they are trying to recreate the current banking system through Lightning so they can continue scamming the goyim.

That's why there is so much opposition to BSV and Craig Satoshi Wright, because it is actually the original Bitcoin that is outside of kike control, and unburdened by block limits and toxic code like segwit and RBF.

Satoshi is back, and he's mad as hell.

>>13415491
People have been arrested for exchanging bitcoin for dollars, people have been raided and gotten their bitcoin confiscated, bitcoin has been involved in criminal cases long before the masses even heard of it. If bitcoin could have been entirely confiscated and destroyed by the authorities, it would already be done in 2013 right after the Silk Road case. The authorities simply can't do anything about bitcoin as a currency. 'Bitcoin laws' mostly apply to exchanges now.

>>13415559
>Thinks "governments" are all well-coordinated and the actions of a few LEOs are at all germane to the "legality of bitcoin"
Fucking turbo brainlets get out of my bitcoin.

>>13415345
rofl

>>13415590
>>Thinks "governments" are all well-coordinated and the actions of a few LEOs are at all germane to the "legality of bitcoin"
Ah yes the actual actions of governments mean nothing but apparently the jewish conspiracy has far more global coordination and reach to put an end to Bitcoin, according to (You)

Based /pol/ """intellectual""" here to set things straight and slobber all over his keyboard while educating us bluepilled sheeple.

>>13415590
Because that's what happened to E-gold and, later, Liberty Reserve. Those two were used in the same way as bitcoin (bitcoin actually had a larger scale), but they were eventually shut down under money laundering charges, and their owners were jailed. Bitcoin, not so much.

>>13415707
>Being wise to the JQ must mean you browse /pol/ and believe in a Jewish conspiracy.
Point and laugh at the moron, kids.
>>13415694
Here's your (You), third-world namefag.

>>13415736
>Still doesn't understand the fundamental legal difference between bitcoin and e-gold
Well I guess if you don't get it, it must not be true!

>>13415766
Prove you aren't a Rothschild shill right now bluepilled cuck. You can't. That's what I thought.

>>13415781
>bot.exe has encountered a critical error and needs to shut down.

>>13415778
There's no difference other than that bitcoin can't be shut down. If it could (or if it was a single tangible entity in the first place), it would have been charged for illegal money transferring and money laundering too.

>>13415788
Found the lizard person mossad JIDF shapeshifting Rothschild shill. Does netayahu pay you to gangstalk by the hour or by the person, Moschel?

>this is how insane and retarded you sound to someone with all their faculties who hasn't been psyopped by Joshua Ryne Goldberg to the point of mindrot on /pol/ btw

>>13415819
Yeah, the fact that there is no central issuer is a legal as well as a practical obstacle to any effort to shut it down, but it is not the only difference. The e-Gold guys, as the issuer, did not understand the legal landscape, complex as it is, and predictably got shut down. The fact that they were centralized is only part of the equation. They could have survived a lot longer if they had had the same level of legal savvy as, say, one of the current regulated exchanges.
The point is that bitcoin was designed with the law in mind, not only in terms of enforcement but in terms of the actual letter of the law. Had certain design decisions been made differently we would have seen indiscriminate miner arrests by now.

>>13415862
Stay triggered, incoherent and incapable of melding with board culture, shithead.

>>13413653
>using btc for payments

Yikes

>>13415900
>board culture is why i'm a mentally ill nutjob!
Whatever you want to call it, loser.

>>13415887
Bitcoin was never designed "with the law in mind". That's bullshit you're pulling out of your ass.

>>13415914
>Tries to derail thread with faux schizo-posting
>Fails miserably
>"You're mentally ill"

>>13415941
Great argument. You win, sirs!

>>13414293
BSV has more adoption than Lightning.

>>13415942
Wasn't a derailment attempt, more like a reality check for you for how retarded you sound. Seems like you'll persist in your detachment from reality for a while though.

>>13415954
Reliance on the law goes contrary to the original cypherpunk vision, where the law is code and code alone. So the law is simply not a variable here.

>>13415559
>He actually believes bitcoin is illegal LMFAO

Oh wow better now tell anyone you have bitcoin in your portfolio or you might go to jail hahahahahaahaha imagine being this retarded

>>13415491
This. Gas Blockstream kikes and their NPC s oys who've never read the whitepaper.

>>13415981
>being this triggered by the barest hint of le dank /pol/ memes
Keep bumping the thread, you butthurt retard.

>>13416012
I never said it was, I said it can't be rendered illegal because there's no one to hold accountable

>>13416000
Well if acknowledging the law goes contrary to your fringe ideology, I guess its just not important in the real world either.

>>13416023
>reddit newfag from /pol/ doesn't know what sage is
Go back

>>13416061
>Reddit newfag from /pol/
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>13413572
No but it's was inevitable from the beginning.

Satoshi said:

"[...] as the network grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to specialists withserver farmsof specialized hardware."

"Those few nodes will bebig server farms."

https://twitter.com/pepoliopo/status/1120634774945697792?s=19

>>13416061
>sage a thread talking shit
>get a reply from someone not saging
>thread gets bumped

You can't explain that!

>>13416101
one retard can only bump a thread so often, once every 5 minutes or so

>>13415225
https://bsvdevs.com
116 listings.

Most are proof of concept tools which show the possibilities and capabilities of uncapped original Bitcoin.

>>13416091
>kek
Reddit meme. Proved my point

>>13415428
They can't shut it down, it's legal. The first ever legal digital money.

>>13415559
They arrested them as drug dealer and tax avoider, not Bitcoin users.

>>13415736
Wrong
> Those two were used in the same way as bitcoin
Those two were illegal. No transaction history = illegal.
Bitcoin is legal cause it's pseudonymous instead of anonymous

>>13416122
Dank af, mate.
>>13416142
>"kek is a Reddit meme"
>MFW

Hello sirs would you like to trade your bitcoin for some real bitcoin

>>13416173
It is a reddit meme that only underage faggo redditors use. You not knowing that it's a reddit meme is a sign you need to lurk moar or just go back

>>13416061
>>13416142
>>13416194
Samefag glownigger/blockstreamcore. Remember to filter, boys.

>>13416243
>newfag still posts on a static IP, probably from his home connection
Sure is rebbit in here. None of those posts claimed to be a different person, moron.

>>13416158
Bitcoin transactions can be obfuscated by the used of mixers, the wallets are not tied to IDs and it can be used for illegal money transmission in the same way as Liberty Reserve. It's just that you can't control bitcoin much, so there is not a single body to be charged with money laundering. If he existed, he'd be in jail.

>>13416180
>ID
Not today, schlomo

>>13416265
The use of mixers on btc is cost prohibitive these days. Bch has it built to wallets now with cashshuffle.

>>13416258
>Calls everyone in thread schizo
>"Muh multiple IPs so the big bad men can't track me"
heh

>>13416258
Everyone paint and laugh at the called-out bad actor doubling down.
Literally the scum of the earth

BTC is dated tech with no clear solution to underlying issues. CSW isn't Satoshi though. I bet he'd have had more success by not claiming to be Satoshi.

>>13416265
Mixing services are illegal, not the Bitcoin which is mixed.

Any money can be used for illegal stuff.
These illegal stuff is illegal, not Bitcoin.
Bitcoin makes it even harder as every transaction is tracked. Only idiots would use it for illegal shit

>>13416465
>Mixing services are illegal
Never heard this before. Got any sauce on that?

>>13416465
Well, bitcoin still facilitates those things, which is enough to be charged. If there was a single person or entity accountable for bitcoin, they'd be in trouble as illegal money transmitters. But since there are none, you can only go after individual violators.

>>13416521
>bitcoin still facilitates those things, which is enough to be charged
Ask me how I know you are not a lawyer and don't even play one on TV.

>>13415491

noob to crypto.

so the kikes are trying to corrupt Bitcoin? How? post more info pls

>>13417033
https://hackernoon.com/the-great-bitcoin-scaling-debate-a-timeline-6108081dbada
Read the part where the author cites the now-famous BitAlien post. If you have time read the whole article, it is excellent and reading it will put you far ahead of even a lot of OGs who haven't been paying attention.

>>13415957
lies lightning has way more than 500 users

>>13415491
>because it is actually the original Bitcoin that is outside of kike control

https://medium.com/@craig_10243/the-immovable-8aa39ee04515

>In 2007, there was no housing crisis yet. That came later. So you see, although everything had been set in 2007, it wasn’t until 2008 that things started to come to a head. At that stage, bitcoin was basically complete. So, I’m sorry to “burst your little bubble” but bitcoin has nothing to do with the collapse of Lehman Bros nor with the subsequent bailout. Unfortunately, that was badly timed. The reality is bitcoin is not anti-bank, it is not anti-government and in fact it is not even anti-central bank. Most importantly, it can’t be made to be.

>The reality of bitcoin is that it creates a system that stops many of the problems we’ve had in the world. Right now, the Russian government avoids sanctions. They are building their own network but the truth of the matter is that they still rely on SWIFT. The big problem here is that SWIFT is terribly insecure and very simple to bypass. So, imagine a system that is immutable that even governments can’t bypass. One that pulls them into order. One that stops criminal activity as it can be traced, tracked and those violators brought to justice.

Craig Wright is the kike you dumbass.
He wants to create a global currency that's endorsed by the state and make all of the competitors illegal.

>>13415470
https://medium.com/@craig_10243/the-immovable-8aa39ee04515

>Bitcoin was created as a means to ensure an immutable audit trail. In time, this will be linked to logins and much more. To start, it provides an anti-money-laundering trail that cannot be altered. This is enough to ensure privacy while also ensuring that anonymity cannot exist.

>This is enough to ensure privacy while also ensuring that anonymity cannot exist.

Wow, I bet kikes are scared shitless.
A centralized global currency in which any transaction can be subpeoned so they can identify the identity of the person?

>>13415491
>craig is irrelevant
Kek

>>13416329
BCH...bitch?