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>>13255046

>>13255063
Communism is also slavery you fag

>>13255046
Hard mode: Defend the merits of modern capitalism without invoking the communist/socialist cop-out.

So do you want infinite money
Or free stuff

>>13255046
Slaves don't get to go home at night and never have the ability to purchase computers, tablets or cell phones, which you are using one of these devices to post here right now.

>>13255078
free market capitalism is a mechanism to value discover all the thing
trough "capitalism" you can value discover the true value of an individual and allocate the appropriate resources
the killer app of capitalism is the silent death of 2% of the population per year, you effectively implement eugenics based on merit
also you offer to the top performer the ability to arbitrary choose what is to be therefore fulfilling them and curbing any and all subversion

another killer app is the ability to expand on credit and to subvert "others" mostly by taking away their top producers

>>13255075
with capitalism you have a choice though...lazy people will always be lazy no matter what, hence wageslaves

Capitalism is corruption. A dirty neet like me is rich and does nothing, while the wagecucks (majority of the world) hate their life and suffer because they are too brainlet.
Slavery however exists in any type of society. Because we humans are fucked up in the head in more ways than one.

>>13255078
Easy. Government regulations in the market are not holding any ground for the idea of capitalism. Capitalism starts with the free market. And you can see the results of that gov intervention = black markets, or gov funded monopolies.

>>13255046
Slavery to have the freedom to choose if you want to make money and live confy within society, or bug out and head to the mountains and live the life without money you want? Society and/or the government is not responsible to take care of you, maybe your parents were until you were 18 after that you are your own man, take care of yourself. And in US of A you are free to do so by many different ways. Capitalism = freedom to choose.

Every ancient society that have thrived had free market at some point and low regulation on the monetary system (just like USA 100 years ago), and every society that imposed any sort of regulation and/or put some kind of fiat system instead of pure gold/silver turned to thrash very soon (Rome, Egypt, 15-17 Century EU etc.)

Poor bait. Capitalism is the best thing around, its not the best system for brainlets and lazy commies, but if you are hard working or smart guy you will live just fine. Also if you are working minwage and still cant cope, lower your expectation and life means. There is easy and free calculators online for you to checkout if you are better off getting mortgage or to rent. And again, min-wage is for people without skills, by the age of 30 you should be able to make at least double of what you've made in your 16-18's, and thats even if you are retarded.

>>13255137
Work itself doesnt have any value, if you are a leech and just mooch off some gov program, you are exactly the case why social programs and gov interventions doesnt work. Hence communism will be full with people like you.

And if you are just smart enough to get by with some minimal efford, you are the reason capitalism is good, you get paid by the value you bring to the society around you, and the custumer is the direct judge on your work.

Labor and work (and the labor theory) is something that could be meaningless or super cheap. If you dig ditches in your backyard 24/7 you will starve to death, if you go down the road and ask for a job at the site they might pay you little more than min wage, but you wont be able to make a career out of it (probably).

Try washing dishes, if you are doing it home and not in a restaurant you are starving again.

The value you bring with your work/skills is very relative to the situation you are in. No one is responsible for your miscalculation.

And if you really think humans are fucked up, capitalism is your best bet, because central planning is doomed by that statement and by the many times its been tried.

desu after interacting with a lot of malevolent plebs, even from my own family, i dont really give a shit about underpaying stupid drones since i own a business. i try to help the smart, hard working and respectful types and the rest can die of starvation as far as im concerned.
so its a good system actually. you will get ahead if you put yourself out there, think and put in some work. you dont even have to be a genious, you just have to plan a bit and have some with about how you are going to do things in a profitable way.
only weakness of the system are the poor and rich leeches on society. trust fund babies and lazy pothead scum who get by by adding nothing of value to the world, or even just investing in a smart way.

>>13255046
It's easier to move up socioeconomically in Capitalism than it is in any other system. In Socialist continents, like Europe, the only way you can move up in the system is to steal and cheat other people. And Communism, forget about it. There will always be a group at the top that has more than everyone else, which also happens in Capitalism, but at least in Capitalism, you have a much better shot at one day becoming one of those assholes at the top.