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NOBODY LISTENS TO MY TEARS FUCK

How did you fuck it up op

It happens, there will be other opportunities

>>13228063
>Other candidates
You were never going to get the job. The trick to getting a job is to find one no one else wants.

>>13228063
You sent a thank you email right?

>>13228216
...no. should i? it feels to soon for a follow up

>>13228157
they asked about the gap in my resume and i fucking told them i suffered from mental illness this past year so needed time off. FUCK I SHOULD HAVE LIED

>>13228063
I had a place deny me and say they were pursuing other candidates only to call me back for another interview a few weeks later. I took the other job I interviewed for.

>>13228336

>told them i suffered from mental illness

you deserve poverty, idiot.

>>13228063

>i fucked myself again

stop fapping

>>13228336
>>13228410
Would it be a good idea to instead of depression say that you were freelancing, running a home business, taking care of family, and investing in cryptocurrency?

>>13228336
>told them i suffered from mental illness
You might as well have told them you like to strangle hookers and make cool lampshades. Same effect.

>>13228301
Not a follow up, a thank you. Its polite and professional. You thank them for their time and reiterate how interested you are in the position.

Thats it. 2 sentences and it immediately differentiates you from the other candidates.

>>13228336
I feel you OP, you were in a tough spot. Learn from this, in the future just say you were laid off, had some cash in the bank and decided to take a break from work for a few months.

I have a feeling you'll get another interview soon, just keep your chin up and apply else where.

Just apply to other jobs OP. who gives a shit, its just one company. Now you know not to say something like that again. Look for ideas on what to say for resume gaps so that you have a proper excuse now.

>>13228463
no it doesn't. they've already decided if they want to hire you within the first 5 minutes of the interview. if they didn't want you, a thank you note after the interview isn't going to sway their mind.

>>13228502
Maybe if you work in retail or service where theres a massive number of applicants.

Any professional company hiring something like an engineer cannot make a decision in the first 5 minutes. Theres too many factors to consider and typically it comes down to 1-3 candidates and any little thing you do to make yourself stand out helps.

>>13228336
Next time don't be insane.

>>13228540
i'm an engineer, the field is flooded with new grads. every single job i've ever gotten, I knew 100% by the end of the interview that I had the job. There was no doubt because they were talking about offers and when I can start and all that shit.

>>13228336
Would you hire you? Seriously record yourself on camera answering the questions and ask yourself if you would hire that.

>>13228575
Im sure you are, and your one interview experience does not mean anything because they could have been desperate. Not all companies operate this way.

>>13228336
Welp time to move on OP. Never be honest about shit like that. lesson learned I hope.

>Interview with a company that's doing a big hiring wave, trying to bring on a bunch of people at once with my exact skillset
>They're a mid-sized company in a small city within two hours of a much larger city, so attracting smart/ambitious people who even want to be there at all is a genuine concern they're open about struggling with.
>The interview goes swimmingly, the rapport with the interviewer stays strong throughout and my pitch is tuned-in exactly to the qualities they say they're looking for.
>I'm told I'll hear back from them shortly (1-2 days, they say) about the next interviewing stage.
>It's now been a week of radio silence.

IF THE STARS CAN ALIGN AND I'LL STILL FUCKING LOSE, WHAT EXACTLY AM I SUPPOSED TO FUCKING DO?

Things may actually end up alright but god damn this waiting is absolute agony.

>>13228634
4 successful interviews, ~12 failed. add "writing a cover letter" to dogshit stupid advice
the only good advice is to shotgun apply to everything, and eventually you'll be the type they're looking for, where they already want to hire you before you start talking.

Most of the time they're thinking "i probably don't want to hire this person, but I'll interview them so I have 3+ choices".

>>13228637
follow up dipshit they want to make sure you're seriously interested in the job.

>>13228670
just fucking stop. this is also bad advice.

>>13228063
You're not diverse enough anyway.

>>13228063
>MY FUCKING AUTISM FUCK
Survival of the fittest. No one wants a sperg who spends all day on 4chan.

>>13228336

RIP

>>13228336
Oh

Every job I've had except one I followed up on twice before I was finally hired. The market is in the employees favor so you have to show you're still interested or they assume you are leaning towards the other guys.

>>13228336
Next time tell them you had an unexpected death in the family and had to take care of your grandma with Alzheimer's

>>13228681
>hurr im a engineer
>dont send a thank you or follow up thats bad!

You sound like some retarded boomer whos salty about young people taking his job. Stay mad grampa.

>>13228757
you're the one giving boomer tier advice dude. tell me how many times its made a difference for you?

>>13228733
if it was in the employee's favor, wouldn't they be the ones trying to follow up with you?
>gee I guess we didn't really need to hire anyone, no one followed up so we'll just not hire

>>13228757
In his defense, being really pushy about following up really is one of those things that almost every boomer tells you to do, but then almost every boomer gets mad at you for doing to them when you want them to hire you.

That being said, I think the fact that they *told* me a range of days I'd hear from them and then I gave them several days past that before I phoned in will in fact come across as appropriate in the relationship I've already started building with the interviewer. So I'll do it, even though it's usually a bad idea.

>>13228834
following up after a week is fine, i'm just very doubtful it makes any difference.

>>13228834
Ive gotten a second interview from a follow up call. Ive even had hr reps ask me to follow up in a week if I dont hear anything.

You do it once and you do it at least 1 week after the interview. Or do nothing like the actual boomer in here is saying so you dont even have a chance.

>>13228898
what's the point of inviting you to the first interview if they're just going to forget about you afterward?

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>>13228301

You abso-fucking-lutely send a thank you email!!! Are you fucking kidding me?!?!?!

>>13228336

Repeat after me: continuing education courses

>>13228464
>in the future just say you were laid off, had some cash in the bank and decided to take a break from work for a few months.
Dear fucking god no. OP, do not listen to this guy. Listen to this guy instead >>13228434

>>13228757
>h-hey it's just me again, I know you would've reached out to me if there was anything to say, but could you reach out to me if there's anything to say?
>Oh, right. S-sorry for wasting your time

>>13229421
Dude just stop. I've had to hire guys onto our devops team and that's the lamest shit. Don't give me another BS email to check in the morning just because you think you have to. That's like tipping your gym receptionist. You think it's nice but it just looks fucking weird.

>>13229920
Isn't this a "know your audience" thing, though?

If your contact in the company is the kind of guy who you think might be up shitposting on /biz/ on a Thursday night, obviously he's going to think you're autistic for going through those formalities. But older people eat that shit up, because they're boomer assholes and getting a thank-you email is just enough to stroke their email while not being intrusive enough to get them reaching for their favorite one-liner about "entitled millennials".

>>13230019
Stroke their ego*

>>13228336
just say you "traveled the world" and "opened up your mind to new experiences" that will get the normies excited

>>13229421
ok...I...I did it. I sent the email. I hope this isn't just boomer hopium. Please be right anon. I don't want to fuck any future prospects with this company.

Go full autist mode on them. Call every day, send at least 10 emails, meet the hiring manager in the parking lot for a follow up, offer them link

>>13228336

Sue them for discrimination

seriously

>>13230019
Boomers are the ones who hate it the most. Remember, boomers did NOT enter the work force run by boomers. They give advice of what worked for them (on the workforce leaders of their time, their previous generation). That does not mean that the advice they give works on them. Boomers detest weakness. They want you to be beneath them but still be strong, otherwise you're not an asset.

>>13230077
keked and checked

>>13230124
>Boomers detest weakness.

I'm calling bullshit on at least this part. Boomers are *notorious* for seeking to select for just the right amount of weakness/mediocrity to avoid hiring anybody bright enough to threaten their position, or who might have better prospects in a year or two and just leave. They have no use for strength, they just want a good monkey who will sit in the cubicle, not break anything, and never leave or look for a promotion.

My best interview I showed up in a freakin polo and jeans. All the other dudes were wearing suits and had briefcases. It was for a developer position at a start up company.
The thing is that I already had a job that I liked and I just went to this interview out of pure curiosity because I thought their idea was interesting.
I went in there totally unprepared and just started asking questions. Me and the interviewers just sat around for to hours just talking shit. It was awesome.
I didn't expect to get the job at all. But I fucking did. And they let me work remote so I could keep my original job too. I worked for them about a year or so and I am still good friends with those guys.
I don't know if there is a moral to this story or if even helps OP, but what I realized is that I went in there not really giving a shit and it served me well. The hungry don't get fed.

>>13228464
That sounds just as bad to the typical corporate cog HR drone. They want worker drones, not people who take "personal time".

>>13228751
This is also acceptable but say you were ALSO doing a side gig or self employed until she got better or died.

>>13228654
this, statistically you are almost always a backup because they interview 100 people for one stupid "talent" in this flooded market

>>13229440
Nope, this is another shot in your own foot. They will ask for proof first thing.

>>13230248

Then you just photoshop some community college certificate bullshit and then rock ‘n’ roll.

>>13230210
>I don't know if there is a moral to this story

The moral is "know your audience", with a side serving of "it's ideal to be in a position to walk if you can be". The latter probably doesn't help OP, but the former is always good.

>>13230077
or spend that time finding employers who aren't passive aggressive, are serious about hiring, not trying to waste everyone's times with 5 interviews for your fucking codemonkey job

>>13230049

Good. Dude, you have to think of it this way: an interview is where you’re selling yourself. “Here’s why you’re buying me!” Think of how thick salesmen lay it on with the brochure, the encounter and the follow up. This is the same thing. You’ve got a resume, the meet and greet, the thank you shuck ‘n’ jive, hopefully a callback for the real interview, then the third interview talks money/benefits/other compensation.

>>13230019

This exactly. They eat that shit up.

These other retards can hurr durr all they want, but none of them make six figures and up so what the fuck does it matter what they say and think?

>>13229920

Why are you such a bitch?

>>13230306
Any respectable place will actually call

>>13230374
>Not liking people being bitches makes you a bitch
k cool

>>13230406

Your wealth of coolness abounds, fren. For it must to compensate the lack of actual money your mediocre computer job takes in.

>>13229920
Imagine actually having to work with this person

>>13228336
Always lie. Lie your ass off.

>>13228063

Fill that gap in your CV by expanding your previous work history (lying) for couple of months = problem solved. I have done this several times and never got caught because employers are rarely checking this.

>>13230437
>complains about not having a job
>pissed at someone for having a job

>>13228063
Anon, you're smart. There are other opportunities for you. You will find something better. Every time I've missed out on a job something better has come soon after. Trust man, life is a journey your path is not set.

>>13228336
Eh, look on the bright side.. maybe they'll consider taking you in as an equal opportunity employee, you'll fill their required quota of blacks/disabled/etc.. so long as you can prove that you're competent.. and won't potentially shoot up the place.

I get my hopes up every time I land an interview and feel fucking crushed afterwards for weeks after getting rejected. How do you guys cope with the demoralisation?
5 years of my life wasted on a useless engineering degree, now 50k in debt in mid 20s. Still a kissless virgin loser too.

Teritary education was the greatest tragedy and mistake of my life. I sincerely want to die.

>>13230567
Ill save u fren. What's your major?

>>13230660
mechanical. location australia.

>>13230484

>be Senior Engineer w/ six figure salary
What did he mean by this?

>>13230676
He's just a larping neet anon. Pay no attention to him

>>13230088
this.
niggers, trannies, females get to be hired because of the need for "diversity". why would anyone with mental illness be different?

>>13228697
this is why you normies get shot.

>>13230674
>location australia.
Ar Eye fucking Pee m8