/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>13131165
Fuck me I can actually believe this

>>13131165
>streaming food revolution
Streaming services only work because the marginal cost of serving a new customer is near zero after the fixed costs of producing the content are paid, dum dum

and what does this have to do with [redacted]?

8/10 good LARP I kek’d

>>13131165
i could see this happening but there's no way it'll be this expensive, $40/month taco bell subs is very likely

>>13131165
This only works for digital goods because they are free to replicate after they are made. It wont work for food

>>13131165
How much drugs are you on to make this realization. I can actually see this happening. Not sure about 2022 but seems possible. Good stuff

>>13131165
OP thank you for this dank af thread

>>13131165
I'd pay for a sub to nigger and kike free zones.

>>13131165
Based time traveling

>>13131190
True with digital services but not physical services. Your favorite artist does not have to re-record a song each time you hear it to sustain his royalties, but if you want a slice of pizza from your favorite restaurant that pizza must be made fresh and consumed in a finite amount of time so right now the high price of food produced monthly adds into account the loss from NOT selling the food and having it go bad netting zero gain. In other words serving a new customer creates less waste because producers need to produce CONSISTENTLY and produce way more than what is needed

Also growing a massive subcription base will influence what is produced simply from "trending" foods further eliminating the food waste problem.

>>13131328
None of that gets around the fact that producing and delivering a unit of food costs money, and in this business model you aren't charging per unit of food. There is no incentive for your customers to limit themselves to less than $200 in raw materials worth of food per month, and every incentive for them not to, even if they end up wasting food.

I guess only one Leroy in the projects needs to order fried chicken then for the entire community..kek

>>13131328
Where did you hear this or what made you think of this. Pretty interesting

what sort of cuisine should we expect from taco bell?

>>13131349
To elaborate on this, you might think there's no incentive to waste food, but there are always incentives to do stupid shit if it's free and you benefit in some small way. For example, I'm not sure what I'm gonna want to eat tonight, so why not just order one of everything on the menu since it's the same price anyway? Hell, I'll get two of everything and do a good deed by giving some meals to some homeless guys. Maybe some extra tacos for my dog.

They already have food subscription services that bring you portioned out meals weekly/monthly.

>>13131349
The rule of law will limit the consumption and hording of food. These services will put out ads making horders look bad, having so much food in your house will be unmanageable you have only so much space, people buying $10000 of dollars of food per month will be reported to local authorities for selling food without a license and waste will be expensive to have, it already is expensive, have you tried to throw away a mattress legally? People will leave it to the service to handle the storage simply because of the hassle, just look at the t shirt industry, 10 years ago everyone tried to print out their own shirts on youtube channels and sell them themselves, now they just send evsryone to zazzle and just collect a check, hassle will be too expensive to deal with in the future.

>>13131165
This would actually be a good idea for a startup and you could even donate the meals from failed deliveries to the homeless or something like that for sympathy points. However the first to do it will most likely be places that focus on fitness or balanced meals, not fucking Taco Bell.

>>13131242
This. It's not as viable for perishable, low margin items like food.

>>13131416
You don't need hoarders for this system to not work. You certainly don't need anyone ordering $10000 of food per month. All you need is the average customer to order $201 worth of food per month, and you're out of business. Idgaf about your ads, what law are you going to pass to stop my behavior as described in >>13131407?

>>13131165
Sounds like an interesting movie. Pitch to neflix, anon. Tell them 4chan approves.

>>13131165
What coin is this?

>>13131407
Food is different mentally. You dont try everything at a buffet, you stick to your faves which is everyone elses faves, when is the last you gave a homeless person water? Its free. You are correct, people will do stupid shit but it gets old quick and you eventually just get the same thing. You might try the mcrib when it comes around.

>>13131458
I actually buy two bottles of water anytime I’m in a 711 one for myself and one for the homeless dude out front...it happens slightly more than you realize that people give out free stuff to homless.

>>13131165
Fuck my life. Tell me more senpai. How to profit from this?

>>13131458
It sounds like nothing I say is going to convince you, but your business model is effectively a slight variant of "free food for anyone who asks". I guarantee after the initial novelty wears off in a month the first thing you're gonna see is people setting up "soup kitchens" using your service, and now you're feeding the nation's homeless for free. What are you gonna do, make it illegal to give away food? Your understanding of human psychology and economic behavior is very naive if you think this has anything but a 100% chance of failure within a year.

>>13131165
I can imagine vegan will push this to gradually get rid of meat

>>13131458
>when is the last you gave a homeless person water? Its free
Thread is lit

>>13131165
Thanks for the idea, faggot. I know what to burn my crypto gains on.

>>13131349
Thats exactly what buffets do.
But 200 a month is obvioisly way too cheap unless its literally shitty bread and soda.

>>13131473
You could have dynamic throttling. As you order more the food becomes lower quality, as you near the limit of reasonableness you get food that goes out of date in a few hours.

To everyone saying that this wont work because food isn't a great fit for "streaming" and some will take advantage I AGREE but it will happen because the infrastructure and most importantly the logistics are already in place. People WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SYSTEM just like people get things from amazon thru mail then report it as lost costing amazon millions, but there are too few name brand foods and too few fast food conglomerate for them to not band together ( in the beginning) and offer this kind of service, its only a matter of time which leads me to my next post.

>>13131515
>Thats exactly what buffets do.
No, it isn't. Buffets are "all you can eat", not "unlimited food". There's a very important distinction there. You're not allowed to take food home, and in buffets where that rule isn't explicit that only lasts until people start doing it a lot.

>>13131165
Any chance of Wendy's offering something similar? I don't like tacos, although I do like their burritos.

>>13131165
surprised this doesnt already happen

>>13131528
It's not a matter of "some will take advantage". Your business model is fundamentally broken. Sorry bro

>>13131518
Yeah but that's not unlimited food anymore. Once you start putting caps on the food you're asymptotically approaching the kinds of meal delivery services we already have. Some limited food variants of this could be workable maybe.

OP is the rare person on /biz/ who actually understands business.

>>13131571
He’s creative but he doesn’t understand business if he can’t see the obvious flaws in this

>>13131242
Edit: actually the only way this would work is if we find a way to 3d print food at a much cheaper cost. Then you would probably be shipped the ingredients mothly and given the bluprint to pront the food yourself on your printer. Probably like buy an ips and getting a modem, you might enter a subscripting and given the printer

Around this time banks will be offering an alternative to college for the first generation after millenials, Capital One, Synchrony, and Citi will promote "live for free" 401k accounts. instead of going to college join the workforce or the army and save up $100,000 over 10-15 years paying into this account in order to produce a 6% yield to cover supscription costs (around $500 a month) dividends are PAID MONTHLY FROM THE DAY YOU ENTER THE WORK FORCE OR THE ARMY and continue until you reach the 100000 savings in which you can continue saving and retire. Of course 10000 a year out of your paycheck is quite a hit , especially after taxes, but also its like renting and saving at the same time. Banks would be raking in money hand over fist monthly from this low risk loan. Got fired? Not working? The bank gets its half off your unemployment then penalizes you for 10% of princple one you decide to go back to work or remove the money( like a standard 401k)

This will spark something called the backpack movement. Basically people can move around freely and not get stuck in one physical place, hotels will become part of suburbs, air bnb renters will have listings on suburbs to earn cash, young people will be content with traveling the country with nothing more than whats in their backpack and the entertainment on their phones. This will create a materialism shift where product producers will be forced to hyper advertise to compete for subcription usage. Businesses will realise a person can only eat so much in a day, live in one place at once, choose one drink to sip or one place to go at a time. This will create the ultimate change in human society, pay to choose or pay to use economy. In order for the top 1 percent to maintain wealth they will need to cater to the majority, because all of the mechanizms of wealth require work and consumption, but once the majority becomes complacent with public transport, solar energy, and all the free food and shelter they can 1/2

Get too, what the sons and daughters of materialism baron which made their fortunes off cars and furniture will have to compete in subcription services with other mega companies for profit, just like cellphone services today. Soon everything becomes unlimited. Ikea releases unlimited furniture, choose them for your home and they will offer services you would not believe! Just because they have your exclusive business for the month. Its already happening in the car industry $1450 a month you can choose from 5 different brand new models from cadillac to drive including a coupe suv and a sedan, you call and they will change the car to what you want in 24 hours DELIVERED. Next year hyandai will be offering the same thing. This kind of desperation will ne necessary because the next societal shift will cause making a living very specialized: automation.

>>13131699
True, it becomes a marketing issue after that, but cereal has shown use we will eat anything if its marketed to us no matter how little it looks or tastes like real food

>>13131416
Rule of law would obviously enforce the contract saying you can get unlimited food for $200 when you buy the subscription.

Also, why wouldn't Taco Bell's competitors simply buy one subscription, then order 100 million Cheesy Gordita Crunches and drive them out of business.

>>13131832
Your acting like Unlimited means Unlimited in business, try to go to olive garden and order 1000 breadsticks or a moes and order 1000000 chips or chicfila and get more than 5 Polynesian sauces. Lawyers will keep cheapskates in check

>>13131755
>>13131811
Overall, based on this and the OP, I get the sense that you have the idea that everyone can get huge amounts of stuff for very little money if you do a lot of subscription plans. Doesn't seem realistic, if there were enough stuff to go around for everyone to get as much as they want, we might as well forget about money and just switch to communism since the underlying problem of communism has apparently been magically solved in this scenario. Maybe in 30 years with massive automation and 3D printing...

"Heavy users" will be throttled just like heavy data users and it will be perfectly legal

>>13131912
>>13131937
Then what does "unlimited" even mean? You're backpedaling on the entire core premise of your idea

>>13131699
>Edit
kys

>>13131931
Correct! Massive automation and 3d printing was exactly what my next post was about. Basically we come to a point where we can mass produce on a scale that the human race has never achieved just in time for the majority not to afford it and creating a generation that no longer values material things, instead consuming entertaiment( by the way artist are not immune to automation, there is good reason that disney is buying all the entertainment, they want to collect a lifetimes worth of entertainment and repackage it for consumption throughout a persons life in future generations) and living in digital worlds where they can "have" and "do" anything. Eventually War(complete with robots covered in logos like nascars) will tip the scale and natural resource scarcity will cause the infrastructure to collapse. Then slavery will return but I'm sleepy so Ill leave it at that. Good night, I'll be back tonight

>>13131946
I mean Unlimited how a sucessful phone company would use Unlimited, use what you want but if you use too much expect to get throttled, its still unlimited but we reserve the right to manage your unlimited plan in order to better serve you as well as other customers on the network. You would want your service provider to throttle abusers so you can have fair service right? You dont have to accept the terms just get service somewhere else

>>13132018
Well, if you get the automation and 3D printing first, then the rest of your ideas would be more plausible.
>>13132058
Sure but you started your OP with
>unlimited food. period.
Now we're talking about caps on the amount of food. Those caps would obviously be related to the amount of food Taco Bell can actually produce and how much it costs. So why would turning it into a subscription service enable anyone to get more than $200 worth of Taco Bell for $200? And if they don't, then you aren't actually getting any economic benefit from the streaming plan, just a lot of administrative overhead.

OKAY YOU FUCKING FAGGOT TIME TRAVELER, TELL ME WHAT THE PRICE OF BITCOIN IS IN 2022. GO AHEAD, I'LL WAIT.

>>13131699

They are already 3D printing food. Beyond Meat & Impossible burger. Welcome to the future. If you aren’t investing in these things. Never gonna make it.

>>13131349
not to mention one subscription can feed a small town or commune if unlimited

>>13131165
on a scale from 0 to taco bell food streaming, how high are you?

>>13131931
3d printing is not efficient at all it is fuck expensive unless you are making custom pieces

>>13131165
where'd you get these ideas? are you an analyst or insider? it's pretty novel i haven't read it elsewhere and put this way.
>>13132116
it makes sense look at all the ubereats, skipthedishes and doordash kind of companies everywhere.
and look at the meal prep companies (those are so bad right now because they cost too much and are incredibly wasteful, plus they make you cook and clean up the mess; whereas if i cooked myself i usually bulk up the portions).
if you combine those two together... food chains entering into this kind of business they solve both problems that currently exist with these two current services.

>>13131946
Holy fuck you’re so fucking dumb. Unlimited never means unlimited in business. Just get the fuck out you retarded newfag

>>13132163
then what does unlimited mean exactly if not unlimited?

>>13132116
>someone produces insightful thought
>u on druggzzz mannn
Typical crippled druggie

>>13132080
Sorry "UNLIMITED FOOD. PERIOD." is copy. You know theres always fine print.

The idea is whats revolutionary, food as a subcription service. Olive garden already has something similar today with the pasta pass(which had every problem youve mentioned and the same rules I've mentioned) but not enough of a diversity of people go there to make it launch the revolution, its not until those that tweet about free tacos start sharing their "sub hauls" that the ball starts rolling

>>13131165
ok

>>13132114
Same thing with a netflix account or unlimited cell phone or insurance plan or credit car any other service, can be exploited, but fuckin Nancy demands her burrito with no onions and she gets onions and everyone ends up getting a subcription to keep from Nancys bitchin

this + UBI = true communism

>>13132242
Mate, once you build cellular infrastructure and cover its costs, every client is basically bringing you free money. But if you wanna feed em, you cannot sell your cake and have it too. If you can feed 100 ppl with your food pile, you cannot serve 20 ppl more without investing a proportional sum in the pile.
With amendments it might work as as an ad stunt to attract new customers to a conventional store or resto. Say, a store where you can subscribe to 2000kcal a day buy for $30 a day.

How much does the unlimited asian girls to come over and sit on my face when I want service cost?

And do I get a discount for ugly ones or do I get cute ones only?

>>13132643
you will be able to buy a hanging air freshener for your car that smells like asian girl ass (really just ass) most likely.

>>13132653
I am imagining the smell right now

>>13132596
You over estimate how much a person can eat in a month compared to the cost of prepared food.

Lets keep it simple and go with 3 crunchy tacos and a drink (.20 per taco to make plus .04 cents for the drink) thats 57.60 a month if someone dedicated themselves to eating breakfast lunch and dinner at taco bell. To the customer thats $456.30 in food!(1.19 reg price taco and $1.50 drink) throttle the heavy users after $500 menu price to a cooldown clock that limits orders to $20 a day until the end of the month even the fattest most dedicated person will only be able to achieve break even for production costs. $200 of menu price food is at most $30 of production cost.

>>13132643
Unlimited brothel access will be just like irl mfc but with in app purchases like anal. But Realdoll rentals will be more prolific than in-person interaction because the next generation will learn how to spot social cues from movies but not make any of their own naturally because of staring at screens and VR so being extraverted will be a fucken superpower in the future workforce.

Seems much too easy to be abused if it's just a flat monthly fee and all the food you can 'eat'. Be too easy for people to take it and hustle it. But you're on the money with the basic idea of subscription service for fast food/takeout and eventually supermarkets.

I see something more with limitations to mitigate the abuses/drain. They would do the calculations to figure out how to make money off most of the customerbase while taking an acceptable loss from the fatasses/enthusiasts who'd eat it 24/7. I can't crunch the math but they'll bank off the fact that most people won't want to eat Taco Bell or something else day in and day out. So figure out how often the average person will eat there a month and price the subscription and limitations in such a way accordingly. Maybe it's $10 dollars free every day if you pay the subscription. Let's say the average person will eat out at taco bell 7 times a month (30 days). If the subscription is 100 dollars with a $10 dollar max 'freebie' this average person cost you only 70 dollars.

The other reason for there being a maximum to the daily subscribed food is to get their foot in the door knowing they'll spend more than that limit. I hear that's why some grocery stores will sell rotisserie chicken at a loss - they know you'll go in and buy more than just the rotisserie. So you go and get your free $10 dollars worth of taco bell - but you're really hungry today so you order a total of 13 dollars. Maybe if you didn't have that free $10 dollars off you wouldn't have gone to taco bell today but instead gone to Mcdonalds.

>>13132851
You read that right, rentals, anything that cost more than $1000 will be rented because people wont want the hassle of owning anything. Even people will be rentable, happens already in Japan, you can rent a girlfriend, father, entire family!

>>13132869
Taco Bell will offer fattys data to medical firms selling blood pressure medicine at a premium for primo leads. This might be more lucrative by itself than selling the food.

I'm going to go to taco bell and camp there with unlimited asian hookers visiting my unlimited taco booth to service me between 2000 calorie snacks


I can't wait for the future please be real

>>13131473
ok, what about $150/month for unlimited but the food has smart dust and nanotrackers keyed to a consumer’s specific identity?

t. you will live to see someone taken away by TBPD for illegal distribution of his food license

>>13132970
smart dust and nanotrackers would cost the company way more than 150$/month.
A more realistic approach would be an app where every one can become a take-away restaurant. Imagine you cook some food for yourself but you cook 3x more. You can sell the rest to interested people living near you.

I live in an appartment complex and always thought we should connect the old ladies who have nothing to do but love and know how to cook to other residents nearby. So they can cook for their neighbours making money in the process.

Sometimes I hate the modern world so much

We need another black death or mass societal collapse so we can cull 50% of the population that are just wasting resources and get back to exploring space

>>13133119
that runs into so many food safety and regulatory issues immediately that I have to basically call you a retard

>>13132970
What kind of mental herdal are you trying to jump where you need to invent a trillion dollar identification system!? You do know we don't even card someone when using a fucken credit card right? And thats actual money. If its "Well people will horde and share it with people who don't have any!" When is the last time you downloaded and emailed someone a song?"but thats digital!" What about bought ANYTHING and shared it with literally anyone not in your inner circle of friends and family?

When I was growing up, I used to download every porn video I wanted to watch at work because I had no wifi at home, it was expensive, and I feared that websites would be taken down for offering free porn, but then unlimited phone data came about and I stopped doing that because now its on my phone whenever I want and I no long have to be worried about the hassle of having a porn drive.

What I'm saying happens in the future is that people learn they dont need to horde food in thier house, they just get it when they want it because its more hassle free and liberating, millenials have not suffered famine, yes the boomers will horde some food because they have a sense of family and think it might go to shit, but someone born in 2000 is perfectly content with microwave meals on their own. We are already paying a monthly subscription for the food we eat simply because we need to buy whats around us to live from month to month, and pricing is consistent from month to month so how hard is it to imagine that companies wont take advantage of the infrastructure created by grocery stores and delivery services to stream food!? If you can't see that no wonder why noone has mentioned any of the other things ive said.

>>13131165
Did you just watch demolition man?

>>13133320
Bad news anon. We arent going to space.

>>13133320
be careful what you wish for!

>>13131214
It means im going to beat the living shit out of you when i get the chance

>>13131242

taco bell's cost of food is almost nothing. all the costs are in paying wagecucks and building expenses

>>13133888
Checked.

Linkies absolutely blown the fuck out of the water >>13133888

>>13132087
Any company which does this

>>13133719

What would happen to cryptocurrency.

>>13134222
it'll spike in response to black swan events, but overall will fade out slowly. it is a curio, like Esperanto (the language).

>>13133719
>herdal

>>13133888

>>13131224
Consider inflation

>>13131165
you will never know what its like

>>13133119
woah like Airbnb for ur food.
or like carpooling to work.
obvs gonna be cheaper than restaurants.
hmm now that I think about it is like uber.

Like most of the streaming services limit their accounts to one user at the time there has to be some limits. Like you can order 4 tacos a day, or maybe a specific menu where you can order from. Otherwise it would be too cheap to feed a family of 9 using this service.

>>13134660
yeah it's like uber or airbnb but as anon stated it would be a nightmare with regulations.

Good shit OP but I just can't get over the fact that due to obesity in America, margins for food subscription will be so thin as people will just keep fucking eating and getting fatter and really milking the service. I can't see how this will be profitable unless the subscription is really expensive, at which point, people may just want to do their normal thing without waiting for the delivery.

And also, I don't know if you have delivered for postmates (which I have), it is expensive and adds up.

I do however like your backpack society theory. That actually sounds pretty fucking chill. I could see millennials and zoomers move into that as they realize owning homes are too expensive and don't want to sign contracts. A lot already experienced getting buttfucked by student loans, and may be hesistant to sign another contract for 30 years for a house.

>>13134660
>>13134660
good luck convincing the FDA

>>13131165
holy shit I could unironically see this happening

>there will be parts of major interstates optimized for vehicle automation

LMAO have you seen how shit most of our infrastructure is?

very few subscription services work. very few. most companies flop hard. people want to buy what they want when they want it. hence that game company that came out a couple years back offered subscription based games and flopped hard.

>>13131470
How much good karma do you really need, though?

>streaming food revolution
You can't "stream" food. More accurate to call it a fast-food subscription revolution.

>>13131165
>A year later walmart and whole foods(amazon) will announce a grocery subcription service
you can already get grocery delivery service from Amazon/Wholefoods, you idiot. This isn't new information

>>13133320
>snaps fingers

>>13133888
lol