/biz/ - Business & Finance

Network pricing: https://twitter.com/dadi/status/1100404644533039104

Node earnings: https://twitter.com/dadi/status/1100804627820355584

Also inb4 hurrr durr they copied 200 words from sonms whitepaper two years ago: https://medium.com/dadi/community-update-c3df86acb1e0

Lmfao, because biz loves buying after something has already 5-10x. Apparently you can get buy orders filled on bitfinex using hidden and scaled.

>>12896275
SONM is fucking cool too. I'm buying both.

>>12896455
Buying is kind of hard, no sellers, but yeah hidden and scaled on bitfinex or wait for some larger bid on kucoin. I bought 80k yesterday, was some work but not that hard

>>12896473
sonm is def also something to look out for, although I don't think they have any security concept

>>12896505
Hard to have security in a decentralized compute cluster. Basically anyone can be low level jacked into the hardware without traceability. Reputations can help, but it's not a perfect solution.

>>12896518
DADI and also RLC use SGX (or similar trusted execution environments), which should be good enough security.

What I particulary like about DADI is that they do auto-scaling of workloads, which means that work and also files are distributed on different nodes by default, and based on the load requirements. So in that sense its much more ahead than RLC or sonm, where you can only rent a single node.

>>12896533
stop talking shit retard.
Node is server/pc, you buy resources from a pool where the task gets distributed.

>>12896560
Good job of calling me a retard, when you can't even formulate a coherent sentence.

>>12896578
you are retard if you do not understand from my post that pool consist of unlimited amount of nodes. so fuck off you hired shill

>>12896533

Is it best to compare to like RAID striping/cloning but spread out on a network?

Concept seeks very interesting. I was listening to the cofounder of Salesforce talk about edge computing and 5g, but he's doing it with video encoders or some shit

>>12896636
Nah mate. You just didn't understand or care to understand what I meant with auto-scaling.

Because I'm here so you can learn, here's what autoscaling is:

AWS Auto Scaling monitors your applications and automatically adjusts capacity to maintain steady, predictable performance at the lowest possible cost. Using AWS Auto Scaling, it’s easy to setup application scaling for multiple resources across multiple services in minutes. The service provides a simple, powerful user interface that lets you build scaling plans for resources including Amazon EC2 instances and Spot Fleets, Amazon ECS tasks, Amazon DynamoDB tables and indexes, and Amazon Aurora Replicas. AWS Auto Scaling makes scaling simple with recommendations that allow you to optimize performance, costs, or balance between them. If you’re already using Amazon EC2 Auto Scaling to dynamically scale your Amazon EC2 instances, you can now combine it with AWS Auto Scaling to scale additional resources for other AWS services. With AWS Auto Scaling, your applications always have the right resources at the right time.

It’s easy to get started with AWS Auto Scaling using the AWS Management Console, Command Line Interface (CLI), or SDK. AWS Auto Scaling is available at no additional charge. You pay only for the AWS resources needed to run your applications and Amazon CloudWatch monitoring fees.
https://aws.amazon.com/en/autoscaling/


sure in RLC you have a pool of nodes. But you can only send one task there and have to specify how often it is executed. And thats fine, RLC is not designed to host websites (its for long term compute tasks), while dadi is specifically for web-services

>>12896649
Well RAID is for storage, which DADI also does in a distributed way (DADI Store),

but yeah, if you host a website and say you get 1000 request, the network will automatically spin up 100 nodes to serve these requests in parallel

>>12896657
Yup, edge is def one of the most exciting developments in the CS next to deep learning right now.

This has a good overview of what services are on the network right now:
https://twitter.com/dadi/status/1100004542102548482

>>12896706
>>12896686


This is like free money rofl. I saw that monocle and versus are running on it. Will they be paying for services with DADI? Or is that unknown.

>>12896759
Basically it is, yeah. But /biz is to busy fapping to traps and losing money on LTO and other pnd's lol

Yes, they pay with DADI or with ETH/BTC/USD which is internally converted to DADI and bought off the market to pay nodes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DADI/comments/90elu8/join_our_vp_of_tech_james_lambie_and_principal/e2q6sbq/

>>12896825
I know Own (CHX) will be doing a similar business model for their clients. People scream "scam", but it's actually more generous than typical business models since a lot of revenue is going back to the community and users. I think YouTube and Instagram were the first profitable models, and these new decentralized networks will be a newer way.

>>12896981
Yup, after having convinced myself that we will not see a bull market of stupid money like 2017 again, I have been thinking about the criteria that projects need to succeed long-term

For me, (besides having a great team and existing clients) the main point is the alignment of customer, company and investor interests.

For DADI I have found that they should have a self-enforcing positive network effect, once the ball starts rolling:
new customers -> more network profits -> incentives new nodes to come online -> supply is reduced by node staking -> price increase

that way node operators and token holders are also incentivised to spread the word about DADI. win win win :)

>>12897167

I'm with you. This sort of project seems like one of the only useful usecases in crypto/blockchain. Sure we will have stable coins, ETH, and BTC as a separate hedge currency, but mostly everything else will be vaporware.

any working website that is using this?

>>12897242
Monocle and versus.com for example
And also the dadi.cloud website itself

>>12897289
So how is this supposed to work exactly? Because who-hosts-this.com says dadi.cloud is hosted by vultr.com.

dadi is a scam.

>>12897335
Basically the top-level nodes handle the incoming requests, which is forwarded to the hosts:

You can think of a DADI Gateway as the master node in an ad hoc cluster comprising one
Gateway and many Hosts. The Gateway is the entry point for Consumer requests. It handles
Host authentication, translates requests to Jobs, manages a Job request pool, maintains a
Pub/Sub messaging system and verifies responses from Hosts.
Stargates are identical to Gateways, but come with the addition of a DNS layer - an
authoritative nameserver - that manages domain mapping into the DADI Network; a
Zoopkeeper installation that maintains the VPC; a CLI interface that manages container
deployment to Hosts; and a contract management layer for Consumer-DADI negotiation.

from dadi whitepaper. So I guess the stargate nearest to you (which gets your request) is hosted on vultr

Imagine buying a fucking coin called "daddy"

>>12897389
>So I guess the stargate nearest to you (which gets your request) is hosted on vultr

Interesting! It says choopa for me, and no host was found for versus.com. I could see this being very useful if they could get streaming to work on it.

>>12897397
imagine being on 4chan and caring about the name of a token while clients are lining up in the waitlist because of the 10x price savings vs AWS

>>12897458

Is 100mil the capped supply?

>>12897443
Ha, dadi.cloud is also vultr for me, while versus.com is choopa. Although I'm not sure how reliable this host finding works with decentralized networks^^

>>12897474
Ja

>>12897496

So if this becomes a widely used network, 20 bil seems conservative based on Metcaffe's Law. But, that's IF it gets used and adopted. Seems like they're off to a great start.

>>12897534
That would be nice, because I would be fkn rich then.

But realistically, I see a heavily undervalued coin right now, not only by crypto standards, but also common sense.. they already make $200k monthly from existing clients using their web-services on AWS, which as of today being directed to the decentralized network

>>12897613
>they already make $200k monthly from existing clients using their web-services on AWS

Wtf, does that mean that will eventually go into the network via DADI tokens? Where did you get that number?

>>12897648
Yes, actually a part of it is going into the network right now already. They stated that they can't share the companies which are already switched over to the network because its commercially sensitive information.

Number is from 2017 (https://www.investitin.com/dadi-a-better-alterntive-to-amazon-aws-powered-by-the-blockchain/, search for MRR)

it's too centralized (and shady) desu. better off waiting for something better.

>>12897771

Oh my fuck, $250 bil market, so if they even get 1% that's 2.5 billion. FOMO.

>>12897846
The network itself is decentralized, the company isn't. I don't believe in decentralized or autonomous organizations (yet).

Whats shady about it?

>>12897906

I thought they technically were a DAO or nonprofit.

>>12897906
I can't find a list of stargates/gateways for starters.
And why is the company "making profit"? What about the coins? It's more like a rental service than a decentralized blockchain thingy. Might as well buy XRP

>>12897927
80% of revenue goes to nodes, 10% to ecosystem fund and 10% to foundation (non-profit org)

>>12897936
You'll have to ask them for that list, a network visualization is going up this month, which will include them I think

Only because it uses blockchain doesn't mean it can't be for-profit or needing to be fully autonomous. They said they are commited to fully opening the network to everyone and making the autonomous based on smart contracts, but scaling the network is more important first.

How do you think a project like this would finance itself longterm. Waiting for the tokens to pump and sell-off isn't exactly a long-term viable business model desu..

>>12898042
* making the complete system autonomous

>>12898042

Sounds like a DAO to me. ZEN, ZCash, and EOS are pretty similar, but I don't think block one takes any profits from transactions because they're already sitting on an ETH warchest.

>>12898238

The thing is, after a blockchain is built, the developers can basically lay back and chill. Like Dan Larimer is doing lol.

The decentralized cloud needs to be constantly developed and upgraded, to compete with giants like AWS. So a for-profit model actually aligns interests of investors and company better than non-profit, imho

>>12896217
technicals look terrible. this coin has a ridiculous amount of bagholders. why should this rise?

>>12898667
Yeah fucking chart looks just like this shitcoin (pic related)

>>12898725
Oh wait.

People love buying high and selling low...

BAKA

>>12899036
Yummy dadi

>>12896217
BIZ INVESTMENT ADVISORY ALERT

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>>12900887
Faggot

Huh I thought dadi exit scammed a long time ago

Looks like pretty decent investment actually. Why not on binance though?

Haven't read a single word in here and already know you're all massive faggots. Aelf is much better, just look at the trading volumes. Go AELF!

What does Aelf even do brainlet?

>>12901407
it does cloud & blockchain and its marketcap is 15x that of dadi, so its obvious that its better, you retard.

>>12901428
Holy shit you're legit retarded. Using marketcap as argument, ever. You just made me buy some dadi. Now fuck off with your aelf chink scam

>>12901407
>>12901428
aelf... AELF ??

a literal chink scam with nothing to show for .. ok desu, you do you, but I'm not touching that shit

DADI IS A SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!!!1!!1!!!!!!!

>>12901811
But do explain

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>> 12897613

Read the whole discussion, good shill.

I agree OP, DADI seems to be severely undervalued and this thing will at least 5x-10x as soon as either self-onboarding starts or bull season starts

>>12901890
>>12901930

MASSIVE, MASSIVE, SUPERNOVA FAGGOTS. You will never learn, dadi is scam, and thats it.

>>12902034
>dadi is scam, and thats it.

Think that's been proven wrong at this point.

New MRR numbers come out end of March for us smartfags.

I spread my boipucci for DADI ^_^ desu

>>12902246
shhh don't let them know. we need at least some retards to FOMO in only after it has 10xed

Buying 10k just in case. Thanks based OP.

>>12896217
How many to make it?