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where will they go now?

>>12754530
ohio

>>12754530
>Catalog
They'd be better off somewhere like Austin or in the midwest

>>12754534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_MZKaZqNTw

>>12754522
They don't hire locals. They just import soibois from SF and colonize your city with faggotry. That's what happened to Seattle since 2000.

Plenty of box sorting niggers available in the south.

>>12754522

The good old NIMBYism at work.

>>12754522
I'm surprised they pulled out. Sure there was a lot of local opposition, but that kind of thing goes away pretty fast. Just throw money at the local politicians, or fund their opponents.

reminder that most of the minorities welcome the new job prospects and its the liberal whites that are against it.

>>12754522
>(((free)))

wish my cucked state had the balls to tell amazon to fuck off

t. virginiafag

>>12754648
Yeah... The article was a fun read. The usual suspects of grafting labor leaders, crooked city council, and our newest young communist ideologue just fucked NYC out of 25,000 jobs and $27billion in tax revenue.
The far left dems are trying to spin it as a win, but just WOW. What a fuck up.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>high paying jobs

Fuck off with your bullshit. As someone that lives in Queens this would have just flooded the area with a shit ton of minimum wage jobs while simultaneously driving housing up even more than it already is. Not only that, but our fucking transit system is collapsing in on itself, and Cuomo apparently can't afford to throw billions at that but has enough to give Amazon tax benefits?

Just fuck off I'm glad it blew up in his face.

>>12754656

The only reason Cuomo and co can afford to do this instead of sucking Bezos' dick is because it is fucking NYC.

Its mostly the super left cucks that opposed this shit, the popular opinion is in support of Amazon, because of the job prospect that it would bring to Queens, instead of everything being centered around Manhattan. It would also significantly accelerate LIC's development.

>>12754522
lmfao I see the agenda to dumb down the population has worked

>>12754715
Cuomo wanted Amazon. He's a fucking jackass that responds to the failing transit system with "why don't more people just drive into the city :^)"

>>12754712
>not taking away something (tax benefits) is the same as spending something

Stupid nopants faggot

>>12754712

And guess what you can do with the 27 fucking billion in tax revenue? Improving public infrastructure. Now you're out of the jobs, tax revenue, AND get to keep the failing transit system. Bravo.

>>12754715
yeah great more minimum wage shitty jobs for billions in tax breaks

kill yourself dumb faggot

>>12754568
Its true. But it made me a millionaire since I bought my house in Seattle nine years ago.

>>12754522
NYC was a head fake by Bezos all along.
NYC is old news.
The future is in Asia, Seattle, SF, and LA. Once Cali goes full open border after Trump, there will be so much excess labor and excess coke to fuel a major boom.
That's where Bezos intends to be. Was his mistress in NYC or LA? Come on goys, read the signs and plan accordingly.

>>12754753

>3 billion in tax break from pre existing program
>for 27 billion in tax revenue

I see that math if not your strong point.

>>12754522
I am so fucking mad right now. I was going to become a very rich man. My parents own an apartment building near there and would have seen revenues skyrocket if this had gone through. Fucking socialism. All that hard work for nothing.

>>12754774
>implying amazon pays tax

retard

>>12754806

>Amazon employee dodge tax just like Bezos.

Yes, they pay a shitload of tax.

>>12754799
>Hard work

>>12754522
Why should the state concede to the demands of a private company? That is socialism at work, a truly capitalist country would not offer incentives to support a private company but maintain non-intervention from any form of government oversight.

>>12755045
>implying that cities shouldn't protect property values and property investments

>>12754712
>As someone that lives in Queens this would have just flooded the area with a shit ton of minimum wage jobs
This would have been been hq. Not for box sorting minimum wage workers but high paid software engineers.

Yes it would have raised housing prices because NYC fucking hates development and resists it everywhere as much as possible which keeps supply from growing to meet demand, so that instead of rising supply we have rising prices.

If you want housing to be cheaper, then vote out the liberal assholes who want rent control and affordable housing and then just let developers turn (relatively) sparsely populated, highly-demanded neighborhoods like Chelsea, west village, Greenwich village, east village, into something resembling midtown Manhattan.

>>12755086
Nope, the state shouldn't have to maintain the property values and investments of private individuals

>>12755087
It's not a partisan thing. City governments restrict development because it benefits those who are smart enough to invest in the city. If NYC went full Kowloon Walled City on us then property owners would just bail. No one wants to live in a slum.

>>12755142

There must be a compromise between that and spawls of single family houses you see everywhere in Queens because of zoning.

Recently they started cracking down and fining small time home owners who convert their ground level basement into apartments and rent it out. Because of the fear of getting fined, the home owners pulled back, which drove up rent prices for everyone. After a lot of bitching, they are finally willing to allow home owners to rent out ground level "basement" apartments a long as it has full sized windows and a sprinkler system, but it seems to be limited to the Brooklyn area for now.

>>12754806
the 25,000 people who would have gotten six figure jobs there would have paid income, property, sales, and other local taxes.

>>12754534
Please fucking this so bad as a Columbus resident PLEASE make my real estate explode

>>12754522
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. new york leftist politicians self-induced-BTFO

Why didn't they just go to Detroit or something? They could have basically bought the entire city.

>>12755338

Because Detroit is only filled with niggers. NYC have much bigger talent pool to hire from. Ranging from minimal wage spics to the highly educated.

>>12755338

Jeff used Detroit as a pawn. Stay poor.

>>12754771
when i worked at amazon, they had a map of color-coded map of the country showing where and where not to build new sites based around tax revenue
CA was very low on the list. Appalachia, the midwest, and the south were the most recommended places to build
Maybe it will be different for a massive HQ. They could probably get some sweet tax breaks somewhere that isn't NYC

>>12755380
Bezos wants to be close to centers of national power, thus why they are continuing on with the alington county HQ which is 22 minutes away from DC.

>>12755405
that would make a lot of sense
they would probably save a ton of money opening in NOVA over Queens and use the 2nd hq as their conveniently-located lobbying arm. it helps that WaPo is right down the street instead of on a different coast.

Wouldnt it be funny Bezos did this bc of Trumps Buddy at Equirer leaking the Nudes Story. Doesnt Trump basically run NYC for Decades now

>>12754727
Your first experience with a liberal?
They just want to flaunt the victim status and cry for jobs.
Not actually to get the job.

>>12755491
Fucking lol dude. Just no. Flyover detected

>>12755491
imagine being this much of a MSM sheep

gotta hand it to Bezos,

wont stop pinching pennies even as a billionaire. Im honestly impressed by his stinginess at this point.

Good maybe they will go to rural American town that actually needs the jobs

>>12755353
Detroid would have just imported H1-Bs retard

>>12754799
This is why Trump let the crustiest crack heads he could find squat in apartment buildings to scare away shitty tenants in the '80s.

As a New York business owner I feel the pain. This state fucking sucks because of every little tax and hoop to jump through to do business. Cuomo and deblasio are ruining New York for what it was. Giving away everything to niggers who do not want to work and illegals.

>>12755762
whatever dude im not a burger - could be far fatched

>>12756147
State Senators, city council and the fucking cunt congresswoman were against it. Cuomo and de Blasio were actually trying to get this through without the red tape though de Blasio showed how spineless he is again by blaming Amazon and not saying shit about the asshole small time politicians.

>>12754799

>landlords

hah, get fucked.

Hilarious how being anti starbucks anti amazon is all the rage now. They offer better pay and benefits than like 95% of comparable businesses out there.
If you don't have a college education/connections you can't really do better.

>>12756334
Save up and buy your own goddamn house if you don't like paying rent. Fucking ungrateful tenants.

>average biztard is proud to have his tax money used as a bribe to get corporations to move to his area

Wake the fuck up, these mega corps literally force cities to bribe them the most with tax breaks, subsidies etc to convince them to move in. Then they drive up the cost of living and import pajeets to fill all the jobs.

>>12756460
I'd rather my tax dollars be used to increase my home's value more than for anything else honestly.

>>12756460
>have his tax money used
It's not our tax money. It's tax money that Amazon would have had to pay. I'm not sure "forced" is the right word either; it's really more of a trade off. They have a reduced tax burden as an entity, but they greatly expand the tax base overall.
It's all good though. We all have different perspectives on the matter. Amazon's perspective was to take their ball and go home.

>>12756460
>Amazon moving into queens would have caused property values to spike beyond the already ridiculous existing prices.
>Could have sold to some rich pajeet and retire to Florida the way many New Yorkers strive for.

>>12756482

>needs daddy government to protect his investments

>>12756500
>>12756501

>government should intervene in the economy when bourgeois property holders can benefit

Ah yes, that rugged American capitalism I always hear about

>>12756530
As opposed to government intervening to protect poor fags' right to live in rent controlled hell holes that they more often than not fucked up themselves?

>>12756580

Property owners are some of the biggest welfare queens around

>>12754737
>Amazon pays taxes

>>12756530
Not even sure why I got a (you) there... Whatever you're talking about is unrelated to the point I made.

>>12756602

>can't read

>>12754684
>$27billion in tax revenue.
NYC offered Amazon to not pay taxes, that's why people were mad. Amazon would give $0 in direct tax revenue.

>>12756590
Are you calling them welfare queens because they collect rent like niggers collect welfare? What an interesting psuedo-intellectual opinion. Don't be upset you're poor and can't buy property and that your family seems to have come from nothing who doesn't have any passive income wealth.

>>12756590
I had no idea rent dodging apartment destroying debt ridden tenants weren't on welfare.

>>12756639
I don't want to be a total dick and reply with a sarcastic "thanks for clearing that up, d00d", but I don't really know what else to say.

>>12754684
I personally don't want amazon in my city as it brings tons of ONIONS.

>>12756786
First sensible argument I've seen all thread.

>>12754522
what a bunch of retards
the modern fall of rome
human decadency at its finest

>>12754522

>amazon
>high paying jobs

pick one

>>12754522
>high paying jobs
>Amazon
Really now?

>>12754522
They weren't going to be high paying jobs. Stop taking the capitalist propaganda.

>>12754799
What about the current tenants would would be forced out by unaffordable rents? Or are they irrelevant?

>>12754737
Neoliberal retard detected.

>>12755380
Appalachia needs jobs way more than NYC does.

>>12756639
Why does one of the most prosperous companies in the country even need tax breaks?

>>12757066
It doesn't need even one tax break. I passed the CPA exam and know what I'm taking about. They have plenty of NOLs, and the full expensing of depreciable assets is more than generous to them.

reminder that good ideas do not require force
amazon would not exist—or, at least, would entirely be a force for good if it did exist, however big or small it may be—had it not have been for coercion and force

>>12754771
>hispanics
>excess labor
the only way you can plan accordingly for this if you are white or if you're a productive non-white (looking at the japanese and chinese) is to try to form or join a private ethnostate relative to your race, and to escape the welfare dollar with cryptocurrencies

>>12757049
There's a really big Amazon distribution center in Kentucky. That's the one that Bezos apparently used to work at undercover sometimes. Whether it is bullshit or not, I have no clue

beaners are so fucking ugly

>>12757049
>Appalachia needs jobs way more than NYC does.

No one there can pass a drug test.

>>12754522
Please Bezos come to PA so I can make 60k cleaning toilets

>>12757124

Fuck no. Traffic is bad enough

>>12757101
>the only way you can plan accordingly for this if you are white or if you're a productive non-white (looking at the japanese and chinese) is to try to form or join a private ethnostate relative to your race, and to escape the welfare dollar with cryptocurrencies
Snow Crash tried to warn you man

literal Amazon shills ITT lmao

>>12757036
Who gives a shit? It's just gentrification. No one simply has the right to live in a place just because they live there now. Your house is not promised to you. If you can't afford it, move out. You can't afford to live there anymore.

And this is coming from a native New Yorker, look how close I am to where the new Amazon campus would've been. It's getting too expensive here, I'm being gentrified out. I have a decently paying 65k job, and the mortgage for a 750sq ft 1 bedroom LIC apartment which goes for around 750k would be 90% of my salary. What am I supposed to do, complain? No, I'm planning to move to the Carolinas in a few years.
Life has no guarantees

>>12756460

Name one actual good reason someone should move their business to NYC nowadays.

>>12757109
>implying NYC isn't druggie central like every other big city on the east coast

>>12754522

The comments are hilarious. Everyone that knows business is like, "hah, what retards" and everyone who's a dipshit is like, "But pay muh taxes".

Stay poor, faggots. Work for yourself and stop asking the government to rob people for you.

>>12754522

but why?

free CS courses is a lot of fun. it is cheaper than cinema and got coffee

>>12757226
The only people who supported this were landlords, boomers, and lib tech soi boys.

>>12754530
I hope they come to Anchorage Alaska.

>>12757218

No where near as bad as West Virginia and Ohio - everyone is on opioids

>>12754534
>>12754555

based

Ohio is boomer central, would unironically make a great place for Amazon drones

>>12755314
Anon I'm very likely to move to Columbus/Groveport area very soon, and I've never been once. What are some decent areas I should look for a reasonably priced/decent quality apartment?

Amazon ruined Seattle and will ruin whatever city is unlucky enough to land their shitty HQ2. I hope they fucking close their campus here so their shitty employees will finally fuck off.

>>12757211
The demand for weed is at a all time high in the city.

>>12754522
>High paying jobs
I applied to amazon at a hiring event, nobody was getting offered a cent over minimum wage.

>>12757868
These aren't warehouse jobs.

>>12754684
>$27billion in tax revenue.
Bezos got a deal to avoid taxes even more than he normally does.

>>12757871

Doesn't matter. Even if you are a salaried officecuck, you are still Jeff's slave

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-worst-parts-about-working-at-amazon-according-to-employees-2015-8#you-dont-get-the-kind-of-lavish-perks-you-see-at-other-tech-companies-like-google-or-facebook-2

>>12757923

>Muh perks

Go work for fucking Google then, oh right they don't want you. Amazon isn't a fucking tech company it's a delivery service, just because it's big and online doesn't make it fucking Google.
God I hate wagies so much.

>>12757942
Amazon Web Services

The only part of amazon that makes $$$

>you just fucked yourself out of the worst paying, most demeaning wage slave jobs you could possibly have!
>too bad!

Yeah, wow, damn. What a shame, guess you'll have to go take those piece of shit jobs literally anywhere fucking else.

New York is l i t e r a l l y too good for Amazon. Governor's pissed because it would have looked good for his numbers, can't blame him. It would have been demeaning piece of trash jobs for the people though

>>12757226
New York is New York for a reason. Your fucking flyover State is an unknown, anonymous flyover State for a reason.

that's all I'm saying.

>>12757390
I hope they do too. It would be amazing for Alaska, and amazing for the rest of the traffic congested US.

>>12755087
It'd be really cool if Amazon actually helped people living in the Midwest with those high-paying software developer jobs without forcing them to move to New York where they'll get stabbed by "thugs." A "high-paying" software engineer salary in New York is lower-middle class anyways.

>>12754806
They don't pay federal but I haven't seen anything about them not paying state tax.

>>12758161
>>12758151
>flyovers refuse to invest in education or even fucking roads
>wonder loudly why companies like amazon refuse to consider setting up campuses there

>>12758194
>flyovers have no fucking money because coastals have been making a point of trying to consolidate all power into NYC and LA as much as possible.

Boy I sure can't wait to work in Chicago, the USA's murder capitol, in order to make 65K a year.

>>12758198
Beats making $27,000/year in Kadoka, South Dakota.

>>12758198
Stay away from the ghettos and you’ll be fine honestly. The crime rate is so high because of black on black crime.

>>12758292
How are most zoomers just coming out of college supposed to stay out of the ghettos of Chicago?

>>12757101
What if you're mixed European and Middle Eastern but basically just look brown, but you already made it by moving your entire networth + loans into BTC in 2013-2014?

I doubt I'd be allowed in an "ethnostate" but I already made it anyways...?