/biz/ - Business & Finance

Bullish LINK, neutral HOLO.

Why? I spent (and currently spend) countless hours researching FUD/shills on chainlink, so I actually have an understanding of how likely it is to succeed (or not). I put a small chunk of my portfolio in NKN a few weeks ago. I did some (light) research, and decided it was worth a shot. I'm also mining on the testnet.

I don't have time to research HOLO on top of all I'm doing (job, personal projects + LINK + NKN), and I'm quite happy with my portfolio, I'm not interested in other projects right now...

t. 43k LINK Marine

Have you seen HOLO's devs? Lmao

>>12624045
Their whitepaper sucks. Do they even have a testnet? Or is this holographic blockchain just a good idea people WANT to get excited about because they can buy millions of the supply because “if it only goes to $1 I’m a millionaire!” while in reality they’re just fronting the cost for someone to spend their time rearching a new technology which may or may not work and on top of that may or may not be adopted.

Another thing. The best tech doesn’t always win out. And holochain could look on paper to be super awesome, but once applied people might just not like it and not use it. They have their own interests at play too. What do I mean by that? Tomorrow someone could introduce the greatest blockchain ever with infinite scalability and no fees. But will anyone even use it? What if I want to do smartcontracts. What if the economics of the system don’t work? The point is, timing can be everything and the whims of the people will decide.

I’ve been wrong before tho. I thought tron was a scam but it’s still puttering around I guess.

t.12x Link wallet

>>12624045
1.LINK is the only mania ICO token that has any viability.
2.Holochain is a straight-up fucking scam. If you're not in the group don't bother.

>>12624950
how is holochain a scam. legitimately interested

>>12624962
It's a scam because they raised money for something they know they can't accomplish. Much like if you raised money to train for an olympic 100m sprint.

Holochain is a scam

>>12624985
Holochain has the Mozilla CFO backing it...do you honestly think someone of that caliber is going to attach himself to a scam

>>12624445
Smart man. My folio is all LINK NKN and HOT although HOT is by far the smallest portion. Looks like it has potential but it already pumped so high the gains are limited from here and there are still a lot of question marks.

>>12625032
He's not backing shit he gave them a 10 second "this looks interesting" sound bite and that's the extent of the relationship

>>12625032
>Holochain has the Mozilla CFO backing it.
You mean Jim Cook who was fired a year ago?
https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/22/mozilla-gets-a-new-cfo/
That guy?

>>12624045

I’m bullish on Holo because I think it could be a new paradigm. Even if it eventually busts, this coin was designed and marketed for a Tron or VeChain-style parabolic run into the billions. There are just too many marketing points behind it to fail right now.

LINK is a good idea, but that’s it. Devs own 2/3 of the supply, no working product, all the “partnerships” and “breadcrumbs” are nothing burgers. It’s middleware in a space where no actual
platform can scale for adoption, so it relies on one of them scaling, then Smart Contracts actually catching on, then developing a working product, then actually defeating competitors (yes, it has them) to become adopted itself... and then the devs still have 2/3 of the supply to dump on you and suppress the price at any time. The only thing really making LINK worth considering right now is the deluded community on here who look for any excuse to shill it.

>>12625032
>bitcoin is just an application built on blockchain
>I'm pretty excited by all your ideas of peer to peer applications
These are the words of a guy who doesnt have a clue. The average biz pageet is more of a blockchain expert than Jim Cook. His "endorsement" (read: mild interest) is worthless.

>>12625032
>>12625111
I wonder if he was fired for using Mozilla's brand to shill bags of shit?

>>12625115
Even if Holo is a new paradigm, you have companies that are slowly getting into and becoming more blockchain friendly...do you honestly think they'll ditch blockchain for something that is supposedly better in theory? Most companies will not, this is why I think Ethereum and Chainlink is a winning combination.

I’m bullish on link and neutral on holo but I think either side should at least hold a suicide insurance bag of the other. So 1k link and 1 mil holo minimum. Used to have 2 mil holo but sold it for link in October. Next link pump I’m gonna buy some holo again for sure.

>>12624445
Price prediction in 5 years, Link Marine?

>>12625032
>>12625182
AHEM.
Maybe instead of samefagging strawman arguments with yourself you could roll out that apology you owe me?

>>12625032
>>12625182
TING TING TING
AHEM
Holoshill? Where have you gone? Why did you pretend to be a chainlink shill for one post and then disappear?
Could it be that you fucked up?.....

>>12625115
>The connections are all fake

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Blockchain/Getting-API-Data-for-Azure-Blockchain/m-p/202291#M258

Will cryptlet serve as a decentralized oracle network ? Also can we integrate with 3rd party oracle solutions such as SmartContract (www.smartcontract.com) ?

Yes, the intention is to allow cryptlets to solve this issue in a decentralized manner. We are still implementing exactly how we want to design the system, but it currently is in private preview with some customers. We'll announce when it is ready more broadly.

Microsoft will offer chainlink as their blockchain solution. Its still being developed though.

Cryptlets is a whitelabel for chainlink. They claim its open source but provide zero code. The box in pic related looks almost identical to chainlinks old logo.

Cont.

>>12625115
Chainlink infographic for reference

>>12625115
You think its all a giant coincidence?

>>12625115
How will these companies get their data on the blockchain for smart contracts?

>>12625471
>>12625486
>>12625497
Stop sliding the thread I want an answer from this faggot
>>12625032
>>12625182

>>12625115
Please help me understand because they all have open source solutions with different names and provide zero code.

>>12625507
Couldn't side chains do the job of chainlink? For all we know, Azure, Hyperledger etc might have a crazy sidechain that already has chainlink capabilities, we just don't know it yet.

>>12625524
>>12625533
More slide. But I demand justice for this samefagging!
>>12625032
>>12625182

Oldfag here. I don't know much about Holo but the fact they sell hardware is a major redflag. Any shit that has a device like a "skyminer"or "holoport" is a ponzi. Imagine you were married and brought home a holoport, "hey honey trust me this will make us rich someday". Ffs faggots. Literally no normie will ever use Holoports and shit.

>>12625559
I hold chainlink but at the same time I don't think holo is a scam, not bullish on holo either but I don't think it's a scam and it has good moon potential. I'm not "samefagging"

>>12625569
Weak excuse. Present your rear for spanking

>>12625533
Chainlink is building a sidechain on polkadot. Again whatever these companies are using is open source so we would have found some open source company coding something similar to chainlink and so far there is nothing better. Nothing with the same level of industry connections. Also why are they using the chainlink cube?

>>12625032
Great minds discuss ideas;
average minds discuss events;
small minds discuss people.

>>12625588
By this logic, all the breadcrumbs about chainlink are also small since most of them involve certain people partnering with chainlink.

>>12625533
Chainlink is building a sidechain on polkadot. Again whatever these companies are using is open source so we would have found some open source company coding something similar to chainlink and so far there is nothing better. Nothing with the same level of industry connections. Also why are they using the chainlink cube?

>>12625621
>Also why are they using the chainlink cube
I get your points but this is just reaching.

>>12624045
Link bull
Holo bear

But you know what do I know?

>>12625091
>>12625032
The guy said he liked the idea and that it has the same "vision" that mozilla (decentralization) he could have said the same about bitcoin but I think that guy had an economic interest in makingthay declaration...

>>12625742
I see...like I said I'm a chainlink holder but I think holo has moon potential...cardano mooned to 20 billion mcap with just a whitepaper.

>>12625757
You do you

>>12625707
Even if all of these massive vompanies are nothing burgers xhainlink is partnered with zeppelin_os which basicly means 95% of all smart contracts running on ethereum will be using chainlink on the back end without even realizing it. We already know ethereum has more industry partnerships than any other blockchain so any of them who want to use ethereum will have to use chainlink by default simply becauae everything runs on zeppelin_os. The connections are too weird for me to ignore.

>>12625802
Even if all of these massive companies are nothing burgers chainlink is partnered with zeppelin_os which basicly means 95% of all smart contracts running on ethereum will be using chainlink on the back end without even realizing it. We already know ethereum has more industry partnerships than any other blockchain so any of them who want to use ethereum will have to use chainlink by default simply because everything runs on zeppelin_os. The connections are too weird for me to ignore.

>>12625802
>>12625821
I agree completely, the main reasons why I am very confident in chainlink is the partnership with zeppelin_os as well as the town crier acquisition.

>>12624045
Bullish about LINK because the tokennomics are so clear. No other token comes close. No one knows half of what gives a token of their project of choice value. 99% of the time it sounds like gibberish when you ask "what gives the token value?"

With chainlink it is clear. more then clear.

Holo? again, I have no idea what powers the token value. there are so many instances of "if ands buts"

So if anyone is big into HOLO. Please tell me. What gives the token value and what makes you think the price can get to here you want it to go.

>>12625757
What is the tokenomics of Cardano. Why do you think it will go sky high. Speculation aside.

>>12625063
What is the tokenomics of NKN? what gives it increasing value?

>>12625991
>Speculation aside.
The only reason lol

Holo is an overpromised project at best and a literal scam at worst. If you really think that half dozen of boomers can pull that off you are naive as fuck

>>12625266
I have no idea. My target is the low three figures area (implied result being a market cap of tens of billions). I think that is reasonable IF the whole crypto market reaches a market cap in the high hundreds of billions.

>>12626370
The ditcom hit golds market cap in december 1999. Crypto hitting golds market cap today would put us at 8 trillion. Gold is rising now though because people are scared the economy will perform worse so golds market cap will be differejt in a few years.

>>12626442

Yeah. I honestly believe those who say the total market cap of cryptos can reach anywhere from 1T to 20T at the top. That implies that there's a potential 10-175X in the market as a whole.

I do realize it seems deluded when written down (or said out loud), but meh.

>>12626496
It definitely sounds deluded but even if we only hit the dotcom bubbles market cap adjusted for inflation and not gold that puts us at 5 trillion for crypto.

>>12625999
checked. nothing special just supply and demand. I like it in the short term because the cap is extremely low, the team is fantastic, and the testnet is super active. not sure about the long term but I'd be surprised if it didn't 10x this year (which would only put it at $70M cap)

>>12624453
This. I can’t move past the SJW shill campaign they put on. Idc about politics but when you go over and beyond to push an agenda it looks shady.

>>12626660
You realize 1 person could 10x it without a problem without any reason behind it other than they can right?

Making sure you know the relationship between a 10x and progress is null.

Who cares if Holo is legit or not, it is still going to pump more than the 37 SATs it's sitting at