/biz/ - Business & Finance

mass fomo

this is typical right before a dump anon

Tink bout eit
suply need to kep up wit demand or price go sky high
so volume go up 2 keep wit price
it very simple and normal just mean it helthy coin :)

>>12575018
what about when volume continues increasing but price stays the same

P & D coin

Was copy / paste of Safe Network.

How is Holochain any different than Maidsafe & Safe Network?

https://safenetwork.tech/

In terms of concept and what its trying to accomplish.

Sounds like Golem is similar too.

I don't see what is supposed to be so great about recycled ideas & copy/paste coins.

>>12575122
They're not at all similar. What's with your autistic spacing?

It means that it’s close to dump.

>>12575189
>It means that it’s close to dump.
Why?

>>12575122
>P & D coin
>Was copy / paste of Safe Network.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
Bro get the fuck out LMAO, the levels people will stoop to to try to fud Holochain is fuckin comical. WEW lad, that was good. Keep the jokes coming.

>>12575122
>Maidsafe
Literally 5 years in the making and nobody fuckin using it. If this isn't trash then I dunno what it...what has this been doing for the past 5 years?

Maidsafe is literally still in Alpha LOL. 5 YEARS IN ALPHA STILL....This is like comparing Binance to COSS. No way in fucks hell did Holochain try to bite Maidsafe's infeior steamy shit they can't even deliver. Try again tho.

>>12575122

Are you craig?

>>12575122
this fud is getting pathetic

>>12575122
>Maidsafe
TOP FUCKING KEK

>>12575498
Ceptr is a decade old yet most of the ecosystem is still conceptual. The project thats furthest along is a fucking ERC20 token.

>>12575628
>The project thats furthest along is a fucking ERC20 token.
Holo has a github

>>12574964
HOLO makes wet life great again
synths btfo for now

>>12575694
wut

* Github active AF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F17qOyaN7wM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLf-QpUTtpc

* Mozilla connections
* Several ETH genesis wallet loaded up on HOLOCHAIN ICO (a.k.a: ETH devs or mega whales who bought ETH when it was just pennies). I trust these guys to see an opportunity early before anyone else and it seems they have been on the ball. The fact HOLO is top 30 on CMC just goes to show these "genesis" wallets holders can sniff a gold piece of shit from a mile away.
* 2,000+ hardware boxes sold. Name any crypto project that presold that many mining boxes before mainnet. There hasn't been any.

>>12574964
lots of volume

>>12575837
>* 2,000+ hardware boxes sold. Name any crypto project that presold that many mining boxes before mainnet. There hasn't been any.
Skycoin?

>>12575485
isn't holochain supposedly 15 years in the making or something, does anyone use anything created by arthur brock or his sidekick eric?

>>12575603
LOL the state of pajeetoken

>>12576151
No it's not 15 years in the making. They are internet OGs though. CEPTR and METACURRENCY have been active for about 10. You use Arthurs work when you use most modern devices because he worked on early AI/ML.

>>12575837
>* 2,000+ hardware boxes sold. Name any crypto project that presold that many mining boxes before mainnet. There hasn't been any.

Also they literally fucking allow you to buy these boxes (boxes which cost them real money to make) with the HOT token. That's how much they believe in the value of their future currency, they are giving you actual hardware in exchange for their own tokens.

Will this dip back down to 30 sats? When should I buy in?

>>12574964

the only legit warning you'll get, it's wash trading to make brainlets think people are fomo'ing.

anyone thinking Holo is anything but shit has bought in late and are trying to reassure themselves they made a good decision buying it, they're about to get left behind with heavy bags

good luck anon

>>12577337
This is the dip

>>12577337
36-38 if you're lucky. If btc eth reverse the dump it'll probably pump again

>>12577348
Based and truthpilled. Holo will be worth ~5 sats by Feb.

>>12577362
>>12577348
daily reminder

>>12577348

Yeah why can't anybody else see that holo is a big fat scam. Its gonna go to zero

holo 2h chart looks like its just retraced a bit and continues journey. look those earlier jumps, its just repeats itself.

>>12577696
here's the image. looks like an healthy correction and up we go

>>12577696
the whale cartel is conditioning us to fear perpetual fomo and to panic at the very thought of selling our bags lest we miss out on the next pump.
I'm guessing we going for 50 sats tonight and then another correction that will be above the last ATH, ensuring that even those that sold the top last time get burned.
When we're finally docile and compliant enough to just let it happen, that's when we'll see the true pump they have in store for us.

>>12578137
>conditioning us to feel perpetual fomo*

>>12578137
Based and red pilled

>>12577378
What is this

>>12578137
I don't understand this whale game. Are you saying they are conditioning those to sell like they've been doing the last few times at the top and then some will get burned huge when it ends up pumping like crazy? I don't get it

>>12577262
nkn

fuck HOT, dump that shit and buy QNT

>>12578276
no, they're conditioning us to be too afraid of selling and to hodl tight instead of disrupting their pumps by trying to swing trade.
That way they can get a far bigger pump with on much less volume since more and more of us will become long term hodlers and take our tokens of the table leaving only the normies with their fresh money and other whales to deal with.

>>12578344
Why would they care to condition us to not sell while pumping the price?

Seems like they are doing us a favor? Why?

>>12578354
they're not so much doing us a favor, by letting us fomo in, not only are we helping them pump their bags but we're also locking up more and more of the token supply by becoming hodlers and bringing in fresh money when we shill our bags.
You have to remember that the whale cartel has been accumulating their bags for close to a year, now they're moving on to the pump phase which is why you saw such shameless whale buys like the one that pumped 25% in a couple of minutes.
attention becomes hype, hype becomes fomo, fomo becomes profit for them.
Anyway my theory is shit after all, they've just allowed us to touch the previous ath of 37.
still, someone please shop the holo logo into the cenobites hands, thanks.

Its over abandon the ship

>>12578578
RIP

>>12578578
>teehee

>>12578611
Fucking whales, one day I'll fuck you in the ass I swear it

I know this is about P & D but...

Holochain has no privacy features? or does it?

You will have to do KYC to use it?

If so, I doubt you will be really owning anything.

Don't be conned into these pseudo truths about how this will "free you" to own your data.

It will be controlled by Ceptr LLC.

>>12579068
it has privacy features
you do not have to KYC to use it, you do need to create an identity if you want to be a host but it can be an anonymous identity that maps only to a digital signature so you can enter in the reputation management system, it doesn't have to be connected to any irl identity.
Ceptr wont control shit you dumbass, ceptr is just the foundation that created holochain.

>>12579466
>
Why is Holo a good investment `?

>>12579525
pic related

>>12579466
anyone with enough brain power to read the "white papers" at holochain or ceptr website will immediately feel a sinking feeling of despair upon realizing it is a bunch of hippie dippie gobbledeegook about making a meme network that will "mimic human neural and biological structures", I'd say about 4% of this nightmare architecture "network" is even functioning

and you have to buy an overpriced rasp pi to get full access to developing on their "opensource" core.

>>12579628
see, this is what I mean by insanely easy to disprove bullshit.
not could you download an early version of holochain for about a year now, you can already build holochain apps on it.
meanwhile anyone with half a brain can check the holoport store and realize that you're lying your ass off about the raspberry pi and that most holoport models have an x86 processor.
as for the hippie part, only gullible fools think groundbreaking technology is made by mba in suits, it's always the weirdos that move things forward and the all the successful unicorn startups are have the fucking weirdest assed ceos and teams.

>>12579687
>can check the holoport store and realize that you're lying your ass off about the raspberry pi and that most holoport models have an x86 processor.
>as for the hippie part, only gullible fools think groundbreaking technology is made by mba in suits, it's always the weirdos that move things forward and the all the successful unicorn startups are have the fucking weirdest assed ceos and teams.

yeah sure put youer trust in tranny devs see how it turns out pajeet and keep worshiping that dead kike who was too "smart" and "creative" for chemotherapy so he died like a bitch

>>12579715
t. Rural and suburban retard

>>12579715
what utter bollocks are you chattin' 'ere m8

>>12579687
> shit spelling
I really need to stop drunkposting

>>12579577
>dApps
you do realize though that dApps are completely worthless unless LINK succeeds in delivering decentralized oracles, right?
without trusted oracles dapps are limited to kitty fuckery and other ponzi scams

>>12580522
an oracle solution really isn't that hard dude, it's just people putting data into a computer, fucking calm down bro jesus

>>12580553
okay, so why are smart contracts or dapps not being used anywhere in the world currently? why are they only being used to trade shitcoins for btc and vice versa?
explain in your own words why you that is, and why oracles haven't been done yet if it's not that hard

>>12580574
Oracles exist, and smart contracts are being used for gambling as one example

>>12580580
...so they're being used for illegal purposes?
that's not an "use". that's equivalent to kitty ponzis except even worse because it's illegal.

>>12580608
Oh, so you're a cuckold, then

>>12575498
HOT is also currently vaporware, so that doesn't explain how they are different.

>>12580574
New tech takes time to really show what it can do. It's already very technical, but it's combing A.I. with crypto and automated smart contracts connected to apis that at the touch of a button can initiate all kinds of executable actions.

>>12580623
so you admit to not having an argument? well I suspected as much.

>>12580640
What are you trying to say with your post? I know what smart contracts are, you don't need to explain them to me.
My initial point to >>12579577 was that saying "dApps are a reason holo is a good investment" is idiotic because you're relying on two things: LINK or something else succeeding in delivering decentralized oracles and then holo succeeding in delivering a dApp platform. You're doubling down on your gamble layers.

>>12580641
>oh wow that's like illegal so that's even worse than a scam!
take your couch fainting elsewhere you low-IQ ninny

>>12580688
>13 posts in the thread
>not a single one of them holds anything of substance
I suggest you stop posting, you're lowering the quality of the board with your babbling

>>12580716
>le postcount meme
it's my thread
>lol no substance
said in response to me criticizing your non-argument... at which point you said I didn't have an argument

are you mentally ill?
gonna just ignore you from now on heh

>>12580739
Yes, it's "your" thread, but the only people delivering anything worth reading to it are people like me. You're just a leech.
Now stop posting, brainlet.

>But isn't that... illegal?!

>>12580672
Holochain : https://medium.com/h-o-l-o/heres-holochain-in-100-200-and-500-words-509818aa3c88

>Instead of watching coins, we keep an eye on accounts. Invalid transactions (increasing balance illicitly) simply get rejected by the network.

>This eliminates the need for consensus, and that allows us to make our computing much more efficient. We reckon it will be at least 10,000 times more efficient than Ethereum.

>Distributed hash table (DHT) is a thing that allows you to download data from your neighbours. With a DHT, I ask peers on the network, “Who has the file with the hash 23ae47x?”, download chunks of it from whoever has it near me, and then combine them to form a full file.

No Oracles needed mate.

Holochain requires KYC

You'll be owning anything *but* your data.

>>12580574
because blockchain isn't agent centric like holochain, which allows any holochain agent to be an oracle

>>12580608
>so they're being used for illegal purposes?
If you are under 18 then yes. Are you under 18?

>>12580841
I love how this is the new brainlet fud, but being agent centric doesn't mean KYC, your identity on the holochain is just a digital signature, there's nothing forcing you to tie that digital signature to a meatspace identity.

>>12580890
>kyc
get fucked holofags
>teehee

>>12580812
>Invalid transactions (increasing balance illicitly) simply get rejected by the network
>This eliminates the need for consensus
sounds centralized to me, unless "the network" is decentralized, but that would mean there is consensus.
sounds like a bunch of buzzword honkey to me that hopes to draw in hapless investors to lose their money.

>>12580926
I don undestand this at all, i just want money to buy house

>>12580858
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-15/u-s-now-says-all-online-gambling-illegal-not-just-sports-bets

>>12580890
>I love how this is the new brainlet fud, but being agent centric doesn't mean KYC, your identity on the holochain is just a digital signature, there's nothing forcing you to tie that digital signature to a meatspace identity.
lol this
tfw you have to explain the most basic things to these brainlets

>>12580945
>I don undestand this at all, i just want money to buy house
how much are you aiming for in terms or euros / dollars?

>>12580890
They already stated you'll have to use KYC

>>12580950
damn, guess i cant gamble because US bans it in every country. fuck

>>12580968
why the fuck do you keep lying anon, why are holo fudder the dumbest and easiest to spot of them all?
I'm sure you can provide a link for their statement can't you? (of course you can't you lying idiot)

>>12580958
Im from baltics so need 150k eur

>>12581027
um excuse me sir HOT requires that you have stinky feet and prove it via KYC process, it's right there on the website. Get off of /biz/ if you can't do basic research kthnx.

>>12581035
>Im from baltics so need 150k eur
fuck dude, that's more expensive than many parts of the US

>>12581027
Because https://twitter.com/rgrpark/status/1089818959690399744?s=21

>>12580995
So your great investment plan relies entirely on the fact that holo will provide an US-illegal gambling platform that will be popular and succesful, and will somehow increase the value of holo tokens?
Why don't you just buy FUN in this case?

>>12581049
Im living in top 5 city - by expense teehee :(

They also copied piper coin. (pic related)

Holo isn't anything new or great, if anything worse because of KYC which they already stated will be required.

>>12581060
kek he's desperate
>>12581064
>Why don't you just buy FUN in this case?
FUN is garbage, a centralized platform built on Ethereum and nothing more

>>12581078
well thank g-d it's hidden from the hoolis xD this is awesome

>>12581027
>>12580968
I'm holo supporter, and yes, as a host you will have to use KYC. You have to use KYC to be in lkine with international and local regulations and laws. Holo is not solution to privacy, nor is Holochain, they state many times that they are simply building these frameworks. Can you build anonymous applications that run on Holochain and use Holo, now that is entirely possible. Saying that Holo hosts will have to use KYC is not FUD, nor is it a bad thing, it shows they've rsearched this and their tech is in line with legality, and they know what they are doing.

>>12581132
>I'm holo supporter, and yes, as a host you will have to use KYC. You have to use KYC to be in lkine with international and local regulations and laws. Holo is not solution to privacy, nor is Holochain, they state many times that they are simply building these frameworks. Can you build anonymous applications that run on Holochain and use Holo, now that is entirely possible. Saying that Holo hosts will have to use KYC is not FUD, nor is it a bad thing, it shows they've rsearched this and their tech is in line with legality, and they know what they are doing.
Part of this derives from the fact that brainlets don't even understand the difference between HOT, Holo, and Holochain—they think they're all the same thing.

>>12581078
Holochain as an idea has been in development for 10 years. Google metacurrrency archive, and you will find 10-11 year old blog posts desrcibing these ideas being discussed that you claim Holochain has stolen. Go shill your shitcoin somewhere else, nobody cares.

>>12581060
>rgrpark
lol, I thought he necked himself a long time ago

>>12581132

I'm sure less desirables may target the ready-willing (like you) first to steal your identity.

But don't worry.

>>12581132
holo hosts only have to use KYC *IF* and only *IF* they want to cash out through the holo reserve account.
there's nothing stopping a host from working over tor and cashing out through a dex

>>12581064
you asked why are smart contracts not being used anywhere, you were told they are (gambling), you sperged something about them being used for illegal purposes. I told you gambling is not illegal (as there are more to the world than only US). nothing else

>>12581167
What the fuck are you talking about? When did I say Holochain requires KYC. I spoke about Holo Host, you down syndrome shill. I said Holochain is not privacy solution. Holochain is not anonymous, this iswhat Mathhew Schutte, developer of Holochain has said. Holochain won't require KYC, but Holochain is not privacy solution or anonymous. You sound like someone who just learned the difference between HGolo and Holochain and now you think you understand everything about this project when in truth you know shit.

>>12581218
why are you targeting me with your vitriol, good sir?

Own your own data....

YOU DON'T OWN SHIT WITH HOLO

JUST A BIG TURD HOLE THAT'S GOING TO SPIT SHIT IN YOUR FACE

IT'S DUMPING UPWARDS.

>>12581073
>Im living in top 5 city - by expense teehee :(
are the women hot virgins at least
eastern europe is full of hot virgins right?
tell me /pol/ didn't lie to me

https://www.tradingview.com/x/g276UEWT/

Unless this goes back down to 1000gwei I lost 12% of my stack by selling @1300. Fuckkkkkkkk.

>>12582591
that's more like 6%

price action is due to bakkt leak
>>12581724

>>12582612
>>12582591
So, moment of truth is upon us. Are you buying back in? :^)

>>12583425
>>12582591
still here bro