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>>12572302
Definitely don't take Xanax ever.
Picture everyone in a Sergey shirt.

>>12572302
https://coursehorse.com/nyc/classes/professional/communications/public-speaking/overcome-your-public-speaking-fear

https://www.udemy.com/overcome-your-fear-of-public-speaking-today/

>>12572330
I have low self esteem so that doesn’t help. How do I stop feeling like everyone is better than me? Especially when I’m a friendless virgin loser?

>>12572382
they are better than you, which is why no one is going to care what you're talking about in your presentation. their eyes will be completely glazed over as they think about their own priorities, which isn't you.

there, that should help.

nobody gives a shit about you say what you need and get out

99% of public speaking anxiety stems from narcissism

>>12572302
Propranolol saved my life op. Look into it

>>12572385
Yeah but what if they’re all paying extreme attention to me because it makes them feel good about themselves? Knowing at least they’re not a loser like me?

Not caring about peoples opinions but caring about what you actually like and enjoy. There are a lot of likeminded people. Don't put stacy on a pedestal she is just a worhtless whore with some good looks so she will feel good from 20 to 30 after that she falls off hard.

Look at the attendees foreheads in the first row, mid row and last row.

>>12572302
Practice talking out loud and raising your voice everyday and when you’re ready get a couple of people to listen to you and make sure you can do great when it’s time to give the presentation. I believe in you fren, I went through the same thing recently, albeit on a much smaller scale at a community college kek.

>>12572302
Dont drink or take any drugs.
I smoked weed before one once and it was a complete nightmare.

Just prepare and practice every day until you can fucking sing your presentation.
The biggest confidence booster is being well-prepared.

Damn... pepe is starting to get fat.

>>12572302

you gonna shar some of that pissa fren?

>>12572731
Don't worry fren he gave me some cola I'm sure he will give you pizza

>>12572302
Practise many times until you can redo it from memory (you said it's short). Don't memorize phrases but the outline and what you want to get across. Phrase things as you go each time you practise it. Then you'll have a good understanding of the ideas and are used to making up text as you go which may help if you get stuck, interrupted by a question, etc. Read basic advicr on presentations. Not too much text on slides, speak freely, know the material, be prepared. Knowing your stuff helps a lot. The first few talk may still kinda suck but you'll get there with practice.

>>12572406
I second Propranolol, it's a beta blocker.
essentially means that your brain is still freaking out and it doesn't fundamentally change how you are thinking or acting, but it blocks the physical symptoms you are experiencing such as nausea, high heart rate, sweating. This makes doing things like public speaking somewhat bearable.

source - I am diagnosed with 'general anxiety disorder with panic' and still function in a professional environment, even though it's really fuckin difficult.


>>12572302
OP pls consider getting formally assessed for anxiety disorders, being nervous is normal but not to the point of crippling insomnia and nausea days before the act.

>>12572302
>"im just gonna grab a slice real quick bro"
how do u respond?

>>12572406
>>12573234
here's a third for propranolol. i went to see my physician to talk about performance anxiety and he was writing the prescription before i could even finish my story. turns out the dude uses it himself anytime he has to present at conferences, etc. KEK

PHENIBUT PHENIBUT PHENIBUT!!!

>>12572302
Don't jerk off. Practice your speech in a relaxed state as much as you can.

You can always not do the speech and take the hit.

>>12573248
It was used a performance enhancing drug for shooters/archers/any sport that requires a steady hand. It's widely banned at high levels now, but it's a testament to it's effectiveness and safety.

I do a lot of contract jobs which require interviews, I pop 40mg 90 minutes before and I can make it through without too much trouble.

Makes me pretty tired though. I made the mistake of taking about 30mg before going out to a work function, forgot about it and had a few beers. I had to take a cab home early and fell asleep, very lucky I wasn't robbed.

>>12572302
beta blockers and benzos probably would work wonders for you, but you need to check with doc cause they can be dangerous, for example if you had low blood pressure to begin with. anyways, you got social anxiety disorder, it only gets slightly better with experience of public speaking. but clinically the difference is that it does not get super better, like normal people who gets little anxious they get over anxiety in social growds and public speaking with experience

Take valium. I've used this shit every time for speeches and even in job interviews. I get the job every time and the speeches go great. Don't take too much though or you will appear drunk.

>>12573286
>clinically the difference is that it does not get super better

yup, i'm diagnosed and generally find that i 'feel' confident in tasks such as interviews or presentations, but I simply cannot prevent the feeling of nausea and increased heart rate brought on by the anxiety. It's an underlying disorder that I've got zero control over.

>benzos
i would strongly recommend to NOT take benzos, they fundamentally change your state of mind and you do become dependent for life.
beta blockers are a much safer alternative and don't require constant medication if you can plan your 'stressful' events a little bit in advance.

>>12572302
Ya you’re not gonna get over your fear in time most likely but if you do presentations a lot, eventually you notice that every single time no one looks at you funny. Plus also everyone else has to do it

OP, stop masturbating. Seriously. Your voice will get deeper, and you will obtain more natural confidence.

check out /r/semenretention

>>12573320
Ignore this. Taking benzos does not get you hooked at all. You have to be a complete degenerate with the set intention of abusing these to become addicted. Moderation is the key. Just don't ever use valium more than once every 4 months because of their long half life and you're good.

>>12573346
The dependence is a small and manageable factor compared to the main issue of it fundamentally changing your brain chemistry.

If there is an alternative of simply blocking the physical symptions whilst remaining 'yourself', and totally uninhibited, then it should be taken.

benzos are a total last resort and should only be used by those who absolutely require it to function.
your description of your use is abuse and while that's your prerogative, it shouldn't be encouraged and especially not given as advice.

>>12573346
Also, saying 'they do not get you hooked at all' is just simply untrue, you can and will build both tolerance and dependence to benzos after weeks or even days of use.
The severity of this will obviously vary per individual, but your anecdotes do not trump medical facts.

>>12572411
Part of the problem is that you're gonna imagine all sorts of shit that just isn't real. Until you go up there and stutter your way through a few presentations, no amount of reassurance is going to convince you that 90% of your public speaking problems are imaginary, and the rest are learned skills requiring practice

>>12573279
40mg seems like a fairly heavy dose? i was prescribed 20mg and that seems to do the trick without any negative effects. i have general anxiety but it's totally manageable, similar to you my issue was that the symptoms of physical anxiety (sweating, heart palpitations, nausea, shallow breating) would fuck with my head space so getting medication that negates the adrenal response was literally life changing.

>>12573341
>OP, stop masturbating. Seriously. Your voice will get deeper, and you will obtain more natural confidence.
are there any studies on this?

>>12573403
tolerance also wanes with time

>>12573443
I'm a big guy, 6'1 100kg with a history of contact sport and a big adrenal response.
my doc said 20-30g should be a 'normal' responsive dose (going out clubbing or a friend/family function with strangers) and 40-50mg should be used for d-day type scenarios such as public speaking or high pressure interviews. This should all depend on 'how i feel' and that one of the main tools I will develop against my anxiety is the ability to predict how i will feel and react to a planned stressful event, simply doing this will take the edge off on it's own.

i have only taken 50mg once mind you, when i was best man at a friends wedding, I also 'had' to drink champagne that day and ended up needing to go for a mid-day nap due to the tiredness.

>>12573486
no, it's all bullshit. nofap and other reddit fantasies and just incels who believe that avoiding a perfectly normal and healthy biological response somehow turns them into alpha males.

orgasm floods your brain with dopamine/endorphins which relieve stress and promote a general feeling of well being, this is best done via sex but masturbation will 'scratch the itch' somewhat, in moderation.

don't take xanax, take a beta blocker an hour before you go up to present. this knowledge has changed my life and unlocked potential i didn't have before

>>12573529
>no, it's all bullshit. nofap and other reddit fantasies and just incels who believe that avoiding a perfectly normal and healthy biological response somehow turns them into alpha males.
>
>orgasm floods your brain with dopamine/endorphins which relieve stress and promote a general feeling of well being, this is best done via sex but masturbation will 'scratch the itch' somewhat, in moderation.
I'm not a retard/incel but I think noporn does help these people, nofap seems like a proxy for that

>>12573545
Ignore them.
Masturbation is a way to make men and women easier to control, manipulate, and lower birth rates. Sex and selling sexuality is also a multi multi multi billion dollar industry.
If people don't fap and see sex as something sacred and not to be bought or easily had then many people lose huge and a lot of stuff is exposed.

>>12573443
docs like to presctibe beta blockers cause drug junkies dont like em :D also highly effective, pro musicans about 80% uses them and widely used in esports etc. if not banned. half life 4 propranol hours, most other beta blockers for blood pressure and heart issues have 10-30 hours half life.

>>12573529
if you have bp meter or anything you could measure your resting heart rate too see the effect, should drop significantly. some people even get pale from face

>>12573545
Of course it may help some people, but it's sold as a silver bullet solution to make you 'more of a man' and generally perform better at everything in life, it's just not true.

You're right, it will indirectly pull people away from things such as porn addition, but that's a whole separate psychological issue unrelated to the physical effects of masturbation itself.

>>12573578
I see it as more of part of a general lifestyle change which will contribute to overall better health/mental condition, less problems similar to what OP describes, etc. Didn't mean that it was a magic cure to fear of public speaking

Anyway, I gotta try this beta blocker shit, I've been using Phenibut for this

>>12572302
Eat healthy
Get lots of sleep
Practice the speech on camera
Take supplements from Perfect Health Diet
Take saffron supplements
Remember you and everyone there will be dead soon
Remember the entire human race
And all life in the Galaxy
Will one day dissolve into fractured atoms
And none of this will matter
And no matter how the speech goes
Nobody will remember it
Or you
Or this world
You are an ape
You are in a room full of apes
They are ripe for exploitation
Manipulate them

>>12573529
Yep, this pretty much sums it up. I generally take 20mg for weekly meetings (one day a week) and 40mg for my bigger workshops and presentations. The same thoughts will be in your head but it stops yourself from engaging in the fight or flight feedback loop of a quivering voice and shakiness.

>>12573612
ha ha ha would be fun go tell that to someone with clinical disorder

>>12572302
Think of it this way: you know something they don't and it is your job to tell them what you know in a presentation. You are the expert and if you stutter it's no problem because you still know more then they do on the subject. If they should giggle or laugh just ignore them. It is their loss not listening to you.

Might sound gay as fuck, but that's how I got over my fear.

>>12573624
diagnoses, especially of this nature, are largely arbitrary and up to the discretion of the physician lol
tl;dr: it's not a real disorder, faggot
which may either comfort you or anger you depending on just how much of a faggot you really are
:)

>>12573621
only problem with beta blockers is they dont really remove the fear of situtation etc.

>>12573624
Mommy is out of milk, soz m8

>>12572302
Ive done acting in high school and many presentations in college.

Spend some alone quiet time reviewing the content and slides. Get to understand it on a basic retard level. Each slide or whatever will be 1 main idea or so.

Speak to yourself alone and in your head walk around and practice alone print the slides if you have too. You have to build confidence. Watch the NVIDIA presentations done by CEO jensen huoang he takes boring science and makes it easy to understand fun guy to watch. Dont do drugs just build confidence.

>>12573646
>they dont remove the fear

Honestly im totally ok with that, its part of me, I can deal with it like i have my entire life, i just don't want to be feeling the crippling nausea while I do it :^)

>>12573640
>diagnoses aren't real faggot!
>don't forget to take your saffron supplements!

fuck off cunt

>>12573963
t. mentally ill low IQ fucktard
based and redpilled LOL

>>12572302

Remember that all you're fucking doing is talking to people. Talking to 80 isn't much different from talking to one. Stop making a big deal about it and just get up there and tell them what you want to say. Don't worry about doing it word for word. Know the key points (use an outline or even notecards) and just talk.

>>12572302
step 1: prepare your talk/lecture well
step 2: be all out of fucks, those fags are there to listen to you, fuck what they think
step 3: ???????
step 4: profit

>>12572406
propanolol is fucking amazing.