/biz/ - Business & Finance

It's a long investment btw

https://medium.com/holochain/holochain-reinventing-applications-d2ac1e4f25ef

>>12538951
Basically you will be able to use it to rent out computing power and storage space. Aka hosting but decentralized. It's actually good, don't listen to fudders wanting a lower price. Fuck even I want it to crash so I can pick some cheap ones.

>>12538951
https://medium.com/holochain/perspectives-on-blockchains-and-cryptocurrencies-7ef391605bd1
https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/holochain-the-perfect-framework-for-decentralised-cooperation-at-scale-2/2018/07/26
https://holo.host/whitepapers/
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/holo-take-back-the-internet-shared-p2p-hosting-community#/
https://github.com/Holochain/holochain-proto/wiki/FAQ
https://medium.com/h-o-l-o/holo-the-evolution-of-cloud-computing-57a0a281b88b
https://medium.com/h-o-l-o/holos-erc20-token-hot-and-mutual-credit-cryptocurrency-holo-fuel-6d8b6d3938d6
https://medium.com/holochain/holochain-reinventing-applications-d2ac1e4f25ef
https://medium.com/h-o-l-o/agent-centric-digital-identity-5314d507f0ab
https://blockonomi.com/holochain-guide/
https://steemit.com/crypto/@elysium-renegade/an-extensive-review-of-holochain-a-different-kind-of-cryptobeast
https://hackernoon.com/wtf-is-holochain-35f9dd8e5908
https://cryptobriefing.com/holochain-code-review-and-distributed-computing-thoughts/
https://smartoptions.io/hodl-that-12-beam-me-up-holochain/
https://www.ouishare.net/article/fixing-the-internet-how-holochain-wants-to-change-the-way-we-interact
https://www.ouishare.net/article/holochain-the-beginnings-of-a-brave-new-internet-vol-ii
https://www.investinblockchain.com/holo-promether-partnership/
https://humm.earth/why-holochain/
https://www.dw.com/en/move-over-blockchain-holochain-is-coming/a-46203245
https://medium.com/h-o-l-o/introducing-the-commons-engine-9818315214f0

>>12538951
just buy more and NEVER EVER DYOR

5 cents eoy.

If you believe in decentralized currency (e.g. where money is trustless), then you should look at HOT, its basically a decentralized vision of the world wide web. Tim Berners-Lee, father of the Web came up with a similar concept recently, see https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/09/tim-berners-lee-is-on-a-mission-to-decentralize-the-web/

If HOT can pull this off, it (may) be worth billions.

>>12538966
How does it compare to iExec on the computing side? Does it do cloud computing, is computing done offchain, are the computations validated by other nodes?

Sounds to me as a doesitall project that hasn't tested anything yet.

Bought it for memes but Im thinking on getting more.

>>12538951
>Can someone redpill me?
It's a meshnet with its own cryptocurrency. The end.

Worthless as far as I'm concerned. Meshnets always fail.

>>12538951
I will tell you what it is.
And holoshills will hate me for it.

Imagine a piratebay.
But instead of torrents it has dapps.
But there are no dapps.
And it wants you to pay for every search you make.
But you really don't have to do it either.
This is holochain.
Greatest PND of 2018.

Shills will defend this.

>>12539006
that's skycoin you mongoloid

>>12539021
But its 2019?

Climb out of your basement

>>12538951
that's a big pump, all in linky here, did my own research on holo and it's legit but i can't make myself buy some, should I sell a few linkies for holo so whichever moons first I can get more of the other?
also can you please shill it to me? is the project feasible? I know hashgraph have a voting mechanism they claim solves the byzantin general problem, holo as I understand it goes the same way as hashgraph, my question is if hashgraph is so much better than bitcone, why isn't it used more? same question for holo, I can see the oracle problem being solved because link's white paper is legit and the ideas work and just need to be implemented, the question is can holo really succeed in making a decentralized internet (or a small one at first) and at the same time be cheaper than AWS or other cloud providers? I doubt people care about decentralization that much if it means paying twice the price you'd pay for aws

>>12539120
how many link you have? cant you at least buy 1m holo?

>>12539139
I have 44K linkies, to be honest I could sell 2K linkies for 1k$ and buy 1m hot, but as I said my hands have turned to steel when it comes to selling linkies, I'll try but not sure I can.

>>12539087
Riiiiight. Because Holochain isn't supposed to be a decentralized network with a cryptographically protected means of payment. It does not have a dedicated browser, or special conventions for interaction between machines.

https://medium.com/holochain/holochain-reinventing-applications-d2ac1e4f25ef

Guess it's just some magical shit the world has never seen before. How could I be so wrong and assume it's just like every other shitcoin that wants to make a new internet.

Welp. At least they don't require you to buy dedicated hardware from them.

>>12538995
iExec is mostly for computationally intensive shit. Holo is mostly for hosting sites/web-apps and so on. Technically there's no reason why Holo couldn't do what iExec does, but that's not its focus right now. They are different projects with little overlap between them atm. The reason why Holo performs much better than iExec is because it's not exceptionally hard to adapt Holo to do what iExec does, but it's almost impossible for iExec to do what Holo does.

>>12539208
holo does nothing, retard, its an erc-20 token that will never release anything and even if they do it will be yet another dead eth-killer chain like neo or eos or whatever.

>>12538951
I just need this shit to hit 1 penny and I'll have 100k.

>>12539006

It’s not a meshnet. You’re thinking of Skycoin.

>>12539021
You could put it that way.. it is indeed like piratebay where individuals share their resources (copyrighted downloads) with other people.

Holo works in a very similar way, except rather share pirated downloads, individuals share websites & dapps. Everything is hosted in a decentralized manner. Governments, corporations & private businesses with biased agendas would have no authority to remove content they are against because that content has been distributed on thousands of independent hosts. It is exactly like AWS in it's infrastructure (e.g. your content deployed and redundant on multiple servers), however a DMCA take down request will quickly render your site/cloud application useless since ultimately that content is hosted by Amazon. HOLO is free speech at it's finest.

Technology & computing power is growing at an alarming rate. In several countries, 1Gbps internet plans are the norm. All of this "unused" capacity could easily fuel the next decentralized web. Corporations, small business and individuals will one day have more choices. They could choose to host their website/content/cloud apps on private corporate servers (Amazon, GoDaddy) or go completely independent (decentralized) and avoid the hassles of policies, regulation, data collection, privacy issues, etc.

I'd like to think of HOLO as an extended 4chan. Every individual can express whatever they desire in a completely anonymous way, except 4chan's infrastructure is not decentralized. HOLO will change that.

>>12539255
>A more human internet

>Each of us wants to have control over how and with whom we interact. In order to evolve and thrive, our communities must support everyone's uniqueness. Yet today, our online relationships are dominated by centralized corporate web sites.

>Holochain enables a distributed web with user autonomy built directly into its architecture and protocols.


>Holochain enables a distributed web with user autonomy built directly into its architecture and protocols.


Read that paragraph enough now ? "a distributed web" ? HOW IS THAT NOT A MESHNET ?

Fucking pajeets.

>>12539216
The only reason I didn't BTFO your retarded post (the one before this) is because it was so stupid that I couldn't get myself to start a dialogue with a moron like you, but do not fucking reply to me, you subhuman shit. Go shit in your designated street and kill yourself.

>>12539360
wasn't there a holochain based clone in the works?

>>12539361
>MESHNET
fucking mongoloid can't into english
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesh_networking

>>12539381
So? How is this not a description of holochain? Enlighten me.

>>12539361

Because it’s talking about distributed hosting, nota distributed meshnet, brainlet. Are you trying to FUD to accumulate or are you really this fucking stupid?

>>12539396
>Because it’s talking about distributed hosting, nota distributed meshnet
And how is "distributed hosting" different from a meshnet ? I don't know, sounds a lot like a network in which the infrastructure nodes (i.e. bridges, switches and other infrastructure devices) connect directly, dynamically and non-hierarchically to as many other nodes as possible and cooperate with one another to efficiently route data from/to clients.

>>12539411
because a meshnet referes to the hardware layer since at least the fucking 90s.
What you're describing is the topology of the internet but with holo there will be a mechanism for trustless distributed computing without the insane overhead of blockchain.

>>12539472
>Although mostly used in wireless situations, this concept can also apply to wired networks and to software interaction.

Wikipedia says, you're a cunt.

>>12538951

>Just bought this piece of shit and don't even know what it does.

Sigh...we still have a loooong way down I guess. Literally at complacency.

>>12539363
Keked hard at this, desu

>>12539216
>dead eth-killer chain like neo or eos or whatever.
Antshares vibes here. Buying more.

>>12539153
Go for it anon. 42k link and 1m hot is solid

>>12539185
if you're not at least 50% on holo I don't think you're going to make it.
Holo or link is a binary event, if holo succeeds, link becomes obsolete before even trying.
If holo fails, then chainlink will still be on track for mars

no one is going to use this shit. AWS is cheaper

I just bought in.

How fucked am i?

>>12540897
And faster. And more secure. And has a billion more features.

>>12541010
>a billion features
Something your brain clearly lacks

>>12540988
90% fucked. Just heard from discord whale group: target 600gwei

Davos billionaires cuddling up to Holochain after dropping blockchain tech

>>12541066
post screenshot

Team is SJWs and mixed raced genders it’ll be worth 0.

You think Rothschild built his company into largest steel manufacturer because he catered to niggers?

>>12541320
Wouldn't be the first time

>>12541151
I was in the same whale discord, so I can confirm

>>12541514
post link

Darn it's already dumping :(

>>12541514
pics or gtfo

>>12539120
If you think holo is legit you're too dumb to be a linkie

>>12539363
*snap*

>>12541789
>>12541802
This is what they actually believe

im mega dead everytime i see these fags that bought something that they dont know shit about and just think the logo looks like ass hole

>>12539153
OMG you have 44k linkies and you can't shave off 6K Link for 3milllikn holo?

Dude if link hits 100$ you aren't going to give a fuck that you only have 3.8 million instead of 4.4 million.

Dude seriously hedge your bets a little bit here.

What if holo goes to 10 cents and you have 3 million. And link is still under 1$ for the entire year before taking off.

getting ready for a new daily high again over 900 gwei

>>12542651
>getting ready for a new daily high again over 900 gwei
damn wtf happened tho

>>12542985
Davos bought in

>>12539360
I gotta admit this is a pretty good redpill

Nobody gives a shit about dapps. People are so fucking stupid.

>>12539360
You can already do this on the internet without a gay ERC-20 token

>>12538951
it does stuff with holo stuff.

>>12538992
>(may) be worth billions
Are you retarded? Even if they fail, a publicly well-received attempt to make an alternative to the current protocols of the world wide web would be worth well over a hundred billions dollars before failing. If they actually pull it off, which they won't, it would be worth trillions. But I'm not in here because of the nonexistent chance of them pulling it off. I'm in because the attempt is so noteworthy that it's gonna get a ridiculous amount of investment attention. And this is a real attempt that can actually gain traction, unlike retardation like SKY.

>>12543770
You fucking retard do you understand that end users will not even need to know or care about Holo?

>>12543802
This. Based.

>>12543805
That's exactly the reason why Holo is irrelevant. Why the fuck should Twitter or Instagram decentralize their services, are you fucking stupid? Decentralization is a fucking libertarian meme. Centralisation is good, force is good and laws are fucking good because most of you people are fucking retards.

>>12543802
Actually based
>>12543814
>implying I even care about this other than dumping on normies and getting filthy rich off of it
Twitter and Facebook are not migrating over to this. There are people developing their own social networks on this which may or may not take off. Either way these boomers know how to market their project and honed their image to the point of this being an unstoppable moon mission when CNBC and l*ddit catch on to this.

>>12543802
It's not an alternative to the current protocols. It's not like it's replacing TCP. There's nothing HOT does that the internet doesn't already do.

>>12543859
>Twitter and Facebook are not migrating over to this. There are people developing their own social networks on this which may or may not take off. Either way these boomers know how to market their project and honed their image to the point of this being an unstoppable moon mission when CNBC and l*ddit catch on to this.
Yea right. Social networks with millions of users without Kubernetes, Docker etc.. running on meme DHT networks. hahahahahahahahahahaha

>>12543869
>he doesn't know about Ceptr
lurk more, faggot

>>12543814
I'm wondering (((who))) could have written this...

>>12543906
yea yea we all know it.. I'm an evil Jew, working for Intel, Facebook, Twitter etc..

>>12538951
>Just bought this piece of shit and don't even know what it does
/biz/ the post

>>12543912
KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKEEEEEE

>>12543954
>kike
that's rich

>>12543981
The project is run by Quakers, retard.

>>12543981
Also-
>posting from Firefox
Kek just wait for Mozilla to start backing this

>>12539208
Except holo is skycoin 2.0 fucking HOLOPORTS LMAO enjoy your centralized hardware garbage coin

It makes you rich, so buy it.

>>12544035
>Kek just wait for Mozilla to start backing this
Yea so fucking what? Now compare Mozillas market share to that of Chrome and it's still declining. The only reason I'm using Firefox is because I depend on it.

>>12544063
Holoports are a fundraising scam but are important for bootstrapping the network. Burgers who bought ports in IndieGoGo were allowed to prepurchase 10M holofuel for $1k which was the only incentive to buy one.

>>12544063
Another idiot proves he has no clue how any of this works. Comparing apples to oranges. Good job salty little biztard. Just leave son. This project is for the Men.

>>12544063
seething

Finally Courtney from next door won't have to rely on centralized services like Facebook and Instagram on her iPad anymore.. wait.. she never gave a fuck in the first place.

>>12544090
>>12544106
>>12544109
retards EXPOSED
enjoy your useless hardwarecoin faggots

>>12544132
I will enjoy dumping on Normans at 100x very much sirs. This will be a top 10 coin.

>>12544151
maybe from all the retards shilling it'll go 100x and dump to 0 because it's a fucking useless pipedream coin powered by centralized hardware

>>12544132
You may only keep posting in this thread when you tell us what projects you support. Prove your not a blathering idiot, please.

>>12544155
Go buy RLC you retard. You fucking faggots who think you're too good to make money from hype are retarded.

>>12544155
You people pop up in every fucking Holo thread and move the goalposts every time.
>dumb shitcoin it's going to zero
>okay maybe it'll 100x first, but then it'll go to zero

>>12544182
They hate Holocaust

>>12539497

And my dick says “suck it.” Your point, retard?

>>12541066

Haha. It’s trading well over 800 all day and still pumping. It’s been in the 900s for a while. Some PND.

this shit is going to 1 cent isnt it

>>12544173
RLC will 1000x while HOT pumps 100x and then instantly dumps to 0 once everyone realizes its a scam pipedream

>>12543802

Based and fucking redpilled.

>>12539841
Wat

>>12544317

Beyond that. Far beyond that. Fill your bags and strap in. Holochads are inclusive. We like to add new members to our ranks to get rich together.

>>12544319
iExec street shitter confirmed.

>>12544319
C H I N A H U S T L E

>>12544155
Is goTenna a scam because they sell hardware?

>>12544333
since holochain is agent centric, it's datatype agnostic, meaning any agent can be used as an oracle and the reputation management system will enable you to code a trustworthyness threshold and multiple oracles in a smart contract.
TL;DR, holochain solves the oracle problem by default

>>12544430
What about potential total supply?
I understand LINK is 1 billion and never more. Is HOT fixed at 178 billion too?

>>12543814
t. still seething about Brexit

>>12544503

>>12544499
Holo fuel supply is dynamic. Do some research.

i only have 500k holo will i ever make it :(

>>12544562
if you don't it's because you sold

>>12544578
i wont sell. this is literally the one of the last extremely low sat top 100CMCcoins. probably one of the last to do 1000x

we are in this togerther frens

>>12544430
yes, you anon
>>12544470

*sniffffffffffffffff*

>>12538951
>Buys during a pump

>>12544594
Good lad, we're going to make it bros

>>12544109
shut up prajeesh

>>12544562
You'll make it in the sense that if you were black you would be the richest black person out there that isn't in the NFL, NBA or a very successful crack dealer.