/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12531907

you can make money...

>>12531907
nobody cares about you and your 10 ruppes. Fuck off.

>>12531936
>>12531973
>>12532070
I still dont see why i should..

>>12532088
Listen, fuckface. For months after ICO I've wrote many 2000 character posts educating brainlets about Holochain and Holo. I did this to pump my ICO bags, but also to genuinely make the /biz/ neets see how good this project is. Where the fuck were you back then? If you're not a newfag, I'm willing to bet you were one of those faggots that were spamming "hurr durr scam, hurr durr feet, trannies, SJW" while disregarding all the legitimate talking points.

TL/DR: all the people that could explain this project to you and answer all your questions have stopped giving a fuck. This board is dead and it's not worth the effort for some random /biz/ fag. We'll probably start shilling again when this board is flooded by normies in the next bullrun.

Protip: no helpful brainlet around here will be able to give you "actual good reasons to buy this shit" because it would take multiple posts explaining concepts like mutual credit, no global consensus and why this is important, asset backed and value stability of holofuel and so on. Stop wasting your time and go read the greenpaper, then fuck off to reddit to have your basic questions answered and then fuck off to the Mattermost channels to have the really complicated questions answered.

Decent tech, awful for investors.

I am expecting a lot of volatlity from now until the swap. A decade of planning and years of build work are converging.

>>12532277
Holochain is actually quite good for holochain application providers. Should make them a tidy profit. These providers will end up being acquired by corporations over time and poilicies will be tightened. Quite good. All the wealth being created on these platforms will end up going to the application providers. Token holders either take some profit early enough or get cucked.

>>12532277
>awful for investors
let me guess, you listened to their AMAs during ICO where they told you not to buy this and expect to get rich. Many autists got BTFO back then because they couldn't get the hints that they were just putting up a show for the SEC.
>we've priced our ICO to leave room for at least 100-1000x growth in value, but don't buy this cause you won't get rich
>we designed it to be price stable (after it pulls a motherfucker of a bullrun), so don't buy it
>we are not a security
>*wink wink*

https://medium.com/holochain/perspectives-on-blockchains-and-cryptocurrencies-7ef391605bd1
https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/holochain-the-perfect-framework-for-decentralised-cooperation-at-scale-2/2018/07/26
https://holo.host/whitepapers/
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/holo-take-back-the-internet-shared-p2p-hosting-community#/
https://github.com/Holochain/holochain-proto/wiki/FAQ
https://medium.com/h-o-l-o/holo-the-evolution-of-cloud-computing-57a0a281b88b
https://medium.com/h-o-l-o/holos-erc20-token-hot-and-mutual-credit-cryptocurrency-holo-fuel-6d8b6d3938d6
https://medium.com/holochain/holochain-reinventing-applications-d2ac1e4f25ef
https://medium.com/h-o-l-o/agent-centric-digital-identity-5314d507f0ab
https://blockonomi.com/holochain-guide/
https://steemit.com/crypto/@elysium-renegade/an-extensive-review-of-holochain-a-different-kind-of-cryptobeast
https://hackernoon.com/wtf-is-holochain-35f9dd8e5908
https://cryptobriefing.com/holochain-code-review-and-distributed-computing-thoughts/
https://smartoptions.io/hodl-that-12-beam-me-up-holochain/
https://www.ouishare.net/article/fixing-the-internet-how-holochain-wants-to-change-the-way-we-interact
https://www.ouishare.net/article/holochain-the-beginnings-of-a-brave-new-internet-vol-ii
https://www.investinblockchain.com/holo-promether-partnership/
https://humm.earth/why-holochain/
https://www.dw.com/en/move-over-blockchain-holochain-is-coming/a-46203245
https://medium.com/h-o-l-o/introducing-the-commons-engine-9818315214f0

>>12532223
Pretty sure I recognise you from your posts.
>thnx for posting all that stuff in the past btw, and more importantly ignore faggots

>>12533243
You're welcome based early buyer. I know I made some /biz/raelis happy with my FUD dispelling magic. It's my way of giving back to the community. What happened was that I knew about Holochain months before the ICO, thought it was a great project but at that time there was no way to invest in it. Months went by and I almost forgot about it. One week before the ICO ended, a decent man made a thread on /biz/ informing us about it. I instantly remembered it and bought in. If it wasn't for that guy I would have missed the ICO. Some people on /biz/ are alright and this was the main reason I was redpilling people about Holo in the early days. If it were up to the regular /biz/ psychopaths many people would have missed the train.

Nowadays it's actually funny seeing /biz/ do a 180 on Holo. The FUD back then was criminal. Even today I'm not sure if people were genuinely retarded or they were just trying to accumulate. By the looks of it they were just filling their bags while shitalking.

>>12531907
Because it can run dapps that function and act like fast normal apps.

humm.earth is a good example

Then on top of that you can host an app on the users device if you don't want to pay the network so anyone can launch an app as long as it gets some traffic

thousands of nodes will spring in action when holoports users go live. think about that, thousands of instant AWS nodes. Hopefully the expansion rates will skyrocket. This will be a major threat to Amazon AWS.

>>12533541
where are we headed in terms of sats. just bottom line it, based anon. le when moon face

5 cents eoy. Easy money.

>>12533720
250-500 sats mid year.

>>12533775
>250-500 sats mid year.
Utter delusion

>>12533720
I don't do price predictions cause I genuinely have no idea. I used to be a fundamentals type of guy, spending days researching the projects, the markets and all that. What this crypto market taught me is that fundamentals don't necessarily reflect in the marketcap and they might never do until there's real adoption. Hype drives everything. Unfortunately for me I can't "invest" based on hype cause I increase my chances of getting BTFO by some PnD. What I do nowadays is I'm trying to invest in projects with fundamentals that also have a chance at their 15 minutes of fame. Now when it comes to fundamentals Holo is godlike and by the looks of it it will get a chance in the spotlight at some point:
>high supply with cheap coins makes brainlets wet (see XRP and TRON)
>easy to explain to normies even though it's actually hard as fuck to understand properly (muh AWS competitor)
>cool name
>has some meme magic and /biz/ support behind it (if that counts for anything?)
>team is well connected in SV so there's a very high chance of partnerships, at least on paper

What I genuinely believe is that at this point it's undervalued as fuck. It will go beyond 1 billion marketcap or I will eat my dick faster than McAfee. 10 billion might happen if the FOMO gets real and we get some big partnership like Mozilla or Netflix. Anything above 10 billion I remain skeptical. On the other hand this retarded market pushed XRP to 144 billion at ATH so nothing surprises me anymore.

TL/DR: lol dunno

>>12533861
>partnership like Mozilla or Netflix
>Netflix
lol whatever

>>12533720
we need to break free of the 40 to 50 sat range, once that's done and whales can't just sit back an profit in one sat increments this shit is going parabolic.
when the public testnet is released and you start seeing the shitload of apps available, you can be sure it's going to consume most of the crypto market cap before exploding into a new holochain ico bubble.

>>12533994
it's already dumping, this p&d shit isn't going to work in 2019. sahgayroo.

>>12534005
>up 15% just the last 24%
>dumping.
I'm sorry you missed the moon rocket I'd wish you better luck next time but this is probably the last 1000x of our lifetime.

>>12531907
This would have mooned so hard during the golden bull. ICO buyers still got a good return but it won't go much higher than this. Just like every coin in history it will dump on mainnet and then continue to slowly bleed toward $0 as people realize nobody is using it and the last remaining moonboys lose interest. In reality there is Zero reason to use this over AWS despite what bagholders tell you.

>>12534050
>it will dump on mainnet
joke's on you since there's no main net. They haven't even announced a date for main net. It's just typical vaporware shit a la skycoin.

>>12531936
Soooo you're saying that it's already popped and there's literally no point in buying?

Why would we spoon Fred you reasons to make money? If you can't figure it out for yourself then you don't deserve it. Shilling Holo will do nothing for anybodies bags. You're either in or your not , the neets lunch money on here won't make a difference to the price.

>>12533647
Do you realize how much computing power and bandwidth a single AWS node has? Even if every single neet on biz ran 5 holoports it wouldn't be a fraction of a percent of one AWS node. I can tell it's all kids and non tech people hyping this shit. If you think a web app with the traffic volume of twitter can be run on a bunch of raspberry pi's you are beyond retarded. Don't even get me started on security.

>>12534050
If you think this one isn't worth the risk, that's on you.

>>12534035
it's shit and it's crashing right now LOL enjoy your shitcoin.

These naysayers probably also called ETH shit too. Stay poor

haha, retards wish it would crash, not gonna happen, maybe on one minute candle try the one hour

>>12534286
t. scam artist

>>12532223
tfw I was there and listened. Would have bought anyway but wouldn't have found out as early as I did. Thanks based earlyposter.

>>12531907
Literally been around and in the works since before Bitcoin was created. It stayed unknown until they decided to do an ICO to kickstart funding for the project. Agent centric type of consensus system. Infinite scalable. Mozilla is very interested in Holo. This started with Ceptr and the MetCurrency Project. Eric Harris-Braun is an OG. The code was reviewed highly by a lot of programmers and tech enthusiasts.

Whats up short term day trading faggot who looks past fundamentals and buys and trades whatever new flavor of the month is. You need to get out of crypto.

>>12533541
how many do you own

dat dump

>>12534127
>vaporware with a 100M market cap in the middle of a bear market
it was maybe worth the risk a month ago. anyone buying at this price will get justed hard.

>>12534665
lawl this

>>12531907

What's a good suicide stack for this?

>>12534680
>What's a good suicide stack for this?
10.000 - cheap and when it hits $1 you won't feel too bad. that's how much i got.

>>12534680
1mil if you got 3 years

>>12534680
1mil

20 mil Holocoaster reporting in, good luck everyone, I'm not selling until a dollar. I've seen too many people mad they dumped this summer already.

>>12534880
This is likely where a lot of the FUD is coming from these days. You can still make it, boys

>>12531907
Nope. Too late. No more shilling of this required, you've had a year. Dyor.

>>12534880
I’ve been buying every week since August. Just crossed 1.3M I’ll keep buying until it explodes.

>>12532088
How about now, OP?

>>12531907
Hope you didn’t retard

>>12531907
ahaha yes buy after a 100% pump and hold my bags sir

>>12531907
You should buy so that when it collapses we can see you post suicide memes and pink wojaks while we tell you to kill yourself.

>>12534195
>the epitome of a biztard

worst timed thread of all time

>>12531907
>Buying during a pump
You literally cant make this shit up never change /biz/

>>12537499
What if it is just a beggining of trx like pump?

>>12537499
This thread was made before today's pump, he was posting shit like this >>12532088 just before it went +40%

>>12537508
Lets hope he bought some of this shit.

>>12537504
DING DING DING DING DING

>>12537499
What if this thread was started before the crazy pump? Oh, wait - it was. Never change, /biz/, indeed.

Because your can fuck insane IG whores from its massive gainz

>>12531936
This is a clear indication NOT to buy

>>12537697
Dont be salty low iq linkie

I've been barely scraping by lately and just have held onto the 75000 HOT I've had since 4 sats. Should I take out a payday loan to buy more?

>>12537835
Never take out loans for a risky investments. That is a one way street to.. well to a living in the street

>>12537835
Too risky, this has as much chance of dropping for a while than an additional pump.

>>12533976
this guy (CFO of Mozilla)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bKwUy1x1A
is also some big dick at Netflix.

>tfw you only have 250k

>>12534122
>imagine buying a holoport
skycoin 2.0

>>12534347
This project has always been known around the real OGs. Simply not the crypto retard schmuck space.

guys......
i sold 80 million HOT between 11 and 17 sats a few months ago
i thought it was a meme guys?

>>12538163
imagine owning 250k trons or something like that. thats more than enough