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>> No.12336519

>>12336511
imagine thinking that wealthy people actually pay taxes

>> No.12336532

>>12336511
this is why crypto was invented, so retards like this can't steal everything you have

>> No.12336542

>>12336532
literally this. i would not mind taxes if we all paid a flat percentage rate but the fact rich people get taxed MORE as a percentage is fucking ridiculous.

>> No.12336563

>>12336542
Rich will be defined as anyone making over 100K and then government fees will be attached to anything and everything, and all of these lucrative building contracts will go to the close friends of politicians

>> No.12336570

>>12336511
Gasyourself you filfthy commie

>> No.12336609

It should be a law that no individuals tax burden can go over 15%

>> No.12336662

Bullish for monero

>> No.12336684

>>12336511
Taxing anyone over 50% is an unsustainable tippingpoint. No one would go for it.

>> No.12336687
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>>12336662
I think you meant x-cash, which is a fork of mine to with many advantages

>> No.12336706

She makes the same face as Bernie does in this pic.

>> No.12336724
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12336724

When George Harrison wrote "Taxman" in 1966, the line "one for you, nineteen for me" wasn't a joke; the Beatles were literally taxed 95% under Wilson's Labour government.

And where was Britain 10 or 20 years later? In a fucking ditch.

>> No.12336752

>>12336511
70% of what? total wealth?
70% more on what rich already pay?
70% more on earnings what are already paid?
or just straight sell 70% of your factory wee need your money now?
why they never explain?

>> No.12336763

>>12336724
If I can’t be rich no one else deserves to be rich. Everyone should be on an even playing field you cracker. It’s time for progressives to do their job. Blumpf can rot in hell

>> No.12336774

>>12336542
You dont know how taxes work. Everyone pays the same for the same bracket you idiot. If a rich pays more percentual is just cause a part of his income is in a higher bracket. You think going to mcdonalds or a nice restaurant should cost the same? No. Shame shit with tax brackets

>> No.12336804

>>12336511
I'm still reeling from this idiot being elected. Imagine thinking pollution is our biggest pressing issue.

These people ought to be tied down with their eyes held open and forced to watch basic economic educational films until they understand how fucked their ideology is.

>> No.12336853

>>12336519
the top 1% pays roughly 5-10% of the overall tax income in a country. If you were to double their taxes, you should see an increase of tax income for the state at around 10%.
If she limits is to "the super wealthy" (top 0.01%) i recon that she at best would get 1-2% more in the government coffins through taxation. - which is still a lot of money.

Obviously, there is a big risk that the elevated taxation on the super-wealthy will cause some of them to leave the country, in which case you could actually have a net decrease in tax income, if sufficiently many of them move to another country.. Peter Schiff has talked a lot about it, i think he lives in Puerto Rico, and then he live around 6 month a year in the US.

>> No.12336863

>>12336804
They're basically overgrown children

>> No.12336909

>>12336511
Do people not know how taxes work in this thread?
Their are brackets, everyone gets taxed the same amount and if u make more then the bracket, then the surplus gets taxed higher.

>> No.12336958

>>12336774
That’s his point. There shouldn’t be progressive tax brackets where higher income is taxed at a higher rate. The rich will still pay a nominally higher amount with a flat tax rate, say 15%, when it is applied to their higher income. Progressive tax brackets punish the middle class more than wealthy, as most of the super wealthy only pay capital gains on investments

>> No.12336980

>>12336519
Imagine being such a small minded brainlet you dont realize that the wealthy people pay most of the taxes via payroll, property, and capital gains.

>> No.12336986
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>>12336774

>Imagine being this naive

I made six figures as a single white male last year and my effective tax rate is below 20%, accomplished through legal means. If the government forces me to pay 50% the way they do in shitholes like France, I have multiple options for taking my income generation off the books.

This is all going to collapse. Accounting for future obligations, most Western governments are broke Right Now. We are essentially running up the credit card debt trying to sustain the unsustainable. Then you have retards like this bitch who think the answer is to make it even worse.

Buy gold, buy crypto, buy real estate, learn a skill you can sell for cash in person .

>> No.12337022

Federal tax brackets don’t make sense anyways as they aren’t adjusted for regional cost of living. $100k/year in Arkansas and you are living like a king, in Silicon Valley you qualify for low income housing (not kidding, look it up).

>> No.12337024

>>12336763
I hope you get hit by a bus.

>> No.12337090

>>12336511
fuck wymen

>> No.12337106

>>12336958
above 10% it's theft.
mongolia has the most based tay system, 10% income tax 10% capital gains tax 10% corporate tax 10% vat. every tax is 10% basically. and that's pretty tolerable and simple.

>> No.12337126

>>12336774
>percentual
Pretty sure this isn't a word and the entire point of his post is that there shouldn't even be tax brackets. Fucking brainlets.

>> No.12337280

>>12336980
Payroll tax, medicare, medicaid, state taxes aren't paid by employers, they're withheld from employees and paid to the government based on their tax schedule. The employer pays no amount of your taxes.

>> No.12337304

>>12336563

I have a wife and kid. Our household income is about 110k before tax.

I promise you we are not rich. We both drive used cars and live in a 200k home.

After mortgage, food, insurance, car expenses, baby expenses, we each have about 6k to 8k left at the end of the year which goes towards a retirement plan.

100k is the new normal if you have a kid or kids.

We literally can't have another child or we would have to live on the street. I'll prob get a vasectomy soon.

No larp.

>> No.12337324

What if we stopped giving handouts to Israel and Africa?

>> No.12337368

>>12337324
you think that's a significant amount? foreign aid is usually minuscule amount compared to the upkeep of bureaucracy.

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>>12336511
>poor shit
>wants rich people to be taxed

>> No.12337535

funny how poor people jump at any chance to dick suck "rich" people. Because are so poor they think their middle class income is rich. $100k is not rich. that is literally average in 2018 post trumpflation, rich is having 1,000,000,000 dollars. and you quality is life doesn't change much if you have 1,000,000,000 or 100,000,000. Billionaires should pay at least much tax as the middle class making $100k, and actually much more. 90% tax rates make sense for billionaires. Average people making $100k should be taxed in the 20-40% ballpark. that is logical.

>> No.12337558
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12337558

>dirt poor neets defending billionaires because they think one day they will become rich too

>> No.12337607

>>12337304
>we each have about 6k to 8k left at the end of the year which goes towards a retirement plan.
Only the rich can afford to save that much for retirement! Pay your fair share!

>> No.12337615

>>12336519
YES YES YES YES
i love socialists
they will make us all rich

>> No.12337667
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>>12337280

Jesus, don't give internet advice on shit you don't know. Not only does your employer withold the 7.65% from your check for social security and Medicare, employers have to pay an additional 7.65% on top of that into the system. So in reality your payroll taxes are 15.3%, but politicians know you are all dumb niggers that can't math or logic, so this stupid system continues to rape your wallet weekly.

>> No.12338160

>>12336752
They want a literal wealth redistribution scheme.

>> No.12338192

>>12336511
how people arent seeing the storm coming and not dumping their weekly paychecks into gold/silver and crypto is beyond me.
just like venezuelans, the people who arent preparing now deserve to be go hungry.
ill feast like a fucking king when these socialist take over and destroy the economy

>> No.12338230

>>12338192
You'll be imprisoned for suspicion of cryptocoins possession and you will die there. No socialist is good, they're all are scumbags just like commies.

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>the rich leave the country
>"we have to stop the rich from leaving!!!"
>people have really suggested this
so i guess you get human rights unless you're rich

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12338276

> She doesn't know what the Laffer Curve is
> She majored in economics from BU

Either understand basic economics or don't ever comment or participate in politics.

>> No.12338299
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12338299

Taxes are actually good for the economy. What the libertarian fascists don't want you to hear that in the 50s when our economy was booming we actually had marginal tax rates as high as 90%. As that corporate tax rate has gone down, so has our economy.

>> No.12338308

>>12338276
These hack politicians don't care about being right, they care about how many people rally around them. That's kind of how you succeed as a career politician

>> No.12338314

>>12338299
The 90% tax rate in the 50s was applied on an inflation adjusted income of $4m. The top 1% paid a lower overall tax rate compared to today.

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>>12337280
>the employer pays no part of employees taxes

>> No.12338403

>>12336511
>>12336511
God I want to fuck her so badly.

>> No.12338416

>>12338403
I would sexually degrade her in so many ways.

>> No.12338432

>>12338230
there are still rich people fucking bitches like roman kings in venezuela as long as we dont go khmer rouge year zero we will be okay and quite frankly theres too many guns for that.

>> No.12338453

>>12338314
That is just flat out not true. The fact is that higher taxes are better for the economy and you cant stand that facts have a left wing bias.

>> No.12338485

>>12338314
yeah cuz they hid their money retard. look at france. HIGH tax rate yet the rich just goto monaco and fuck off to the french socialists.
alot of these champagne socialists screaming for 70% tax rate are going to be hiding their money in various assets.

case in point
Dominique Strausskahn Net Worth is $10 Million. Dominique Strauss-Kahn is a French economist, lawyer, politician, and member of the *******French Socialist Party*******, he has a net worth of ---->$10 million.<-----

>> No.12338494

>>12338416
Please scroll trough Latinas getting throated at any given site. I know her from there lmao

>> No.12338497

>>12338453
What's it like being a fucking brainlet

>> No.12338500

>>12338453
>higher taxes are better for the economy
This is not a general rule and for the most part, is actually false. There is an optimal level of tax depending in many factors in a particular economy. This optimal level is not always "high" or even above 20% for the vast majority of economies on the planet.

>> No.12338501

>>12336511
95% is better. coward

>> No.12338520

>>12336774
Brainlet. Have a (you) for effort

>> No.12338521

>>12338299
the 1950s aren't anything like today.

>> No.12338527

>>12337558
>pay more taxes
>government pisses it away baby sitting single mothers and refugees, paying out multi billion dollar crony contacts, and starting wars for the benefit of Israel and Saudi Arabia

>> No.12338535

>>12338521
the 50s also had way less regulation

>> No.12338558
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>>12338527
>billionaire jews pay less taxes
>they now have more money to subvert your country and push for refugees and starting wars for the benefit of Israel

>> No.12338578

>>12338558
You can raise the tax rate to 99% on billionaire kikes. You think they're going to pay their fair share?

>> No.12338587
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It begins now

>> No.12338595
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>>12336662
This btw

>> No.12338603

>>12338527
You forgot the billions in farmers subsidies so they produce millions of tons of corn that are left to rot

>> No.12338605
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>>12338578
>we shouldn't make billionaire jews pay more taxes because they wont pay it anyway

>> No.12338634

>>12338308
This is why democracy is a false god

>> No.12338641

>>12338521
You are right it is different. We had high taxes and a booming economy. Now we have low taxes on the rich and our economy is tanking. Not hard to figure out what we should do.

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>>12336511
based and REDpilled

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>>12338605
No, I'm saying it would be more logical to just eliminate them.

But as it stands USA is a ZOG shithole and more taxes are just going to feed the beast making manufactured wars in the mid east to send refugees into Yurope and subsidizing sub 80 IQ mongoloids to breed like vermin.

>> No.12338703

>>12338678
more taxes = more wars = more social justic crap = more migrants = more taxes repeat

while this is happening
the economy will goto shit but stocks may still go high.
this is bullish for crypto. I suspect crypto will really shine in 5 to 10 years
which debt levels of america are too onerous and the demographics are too shit to do anything about

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>>12338678
>if gov gets more powerful the jews win
>if corporations get more powerful the jews win again
>resistance is futile dumb goy

>> No.12338714

>>12336662
and zcash

>> No.12338737

>>12336752
because its not a valid policy. Its political marketing to keep the spotlight on herself since shes completely irrelevant policy wise and one rep among 500

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>>12338711
>>if gov gets more powerful the jews win
>>if corporations get more powerful the jews win again

Implying there's a difference in Weimerica

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>>12337368
>foreign aid is usually minuscule amount compared to the upkeep of bureaucracy.
True. And yet, that bureaucracy is largely in place to prop up ethnostates like Israel.

Funny that.

>> No.12338810

>>12336511
If you unironically are worried about income taxes then you are doing it wrong.

>> No.12338829

A high marginal tax rate will entice high income earners to take on more risky investments just to lower their tax basis, as a silicon valley wage slaving code monkey, desperately looking for angel investors to fund my retarded start up idea so that I can escape this hell hole, I need all the help I can get. This guy agrees with me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rksd80-FCAw

>> No.12338840

>>12337280
Stop spreading lies.

>> No.12338850

>increase tax rates
>boomers put money into crypto to avoid taxation and get gains
>Everything moons
Sounds good.

>> No.12338857

>>12337304
100k+ per adult, not total.

>> No.12338859

>>12337667
...what the fuck

>> No.12338883

>>12337304
>doing after tax contributions at that income level
Yikes

>> No.12338949

>>12338850
This. If 4chan wasnt stupid, everyone would all go all in on crypto and then meme Madame president into office in 2020 on the promise of her increasing taxes to over 50%.
It'd lock in a crypto bullrun post inaguration and probably make everyone million and billionaires overnight.

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>>12336853
>>12336519
the top 1% pay about 35% of the total in the US which is more than the bottom 90% combined...

>> No.12339027

>>12339001
If you are a one percenter and you pay anything near that you are a fucking retard. Even Romney pays just 14%

>> No.12339081

>>12339027
they paid 35% of all federal income tax revenue, not 35% of their income, brainlet.
try reading the words.

>> No.12339112

Anything below 70% top marginal tax rate is an act of theft against the middle class.

>> No.12339117

>>12339001
>Source: (((IRS)))

>> No.12339124

>>12339081
My bad I assumed you were attempting to make a relevant point. Turns out you were just obfuscating the issue.

>> No.12339128

>>12339001
This is worse than I thought. Take in 90% of all new income but pay 35% of taxes. What a joke

>> No.12339169

>>12337022
Only sensible post ITT

>> No.12339192
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12339192

>>12339124
or you're an actual retard and didn't read what I replied to you dumb nigger.
>>12339128
its right there in the chart kek, they made 19% of the total income and paid 35% of the total income tax revenue.

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>>12336511
I want to fuck her so bad dudes

>> No.12339393

>>12339380
>ywn take her on a date and show her the value of crypto
It hurts

>> No.12339441

>>12336986
No one is trying to tax your shitty wage at 50%, they're talking about taxing people who make over 10 million dollars a year 50-70%.

>>12339380
This is literally any liberal girl at a college in a city? Did you go to school dumbfuck?

>> No.12339468

>>12339441
>tax 50-70 percent at 10 million
... so what happens when youre on the edge of 10 million and you've earned that money by trading assets and thus dont actually have 10 million in the bank? Should you just be forced to liquidate everything immediately at market price and lose even more money trying to find a way to pay the tax man?

>> No.12339477

I wouldn't mind socialism if it was for a white ethno state

>> No.12339482

>>12339468
Capital gains aren't income.

>> No.12339493

>>12339477
Too bad there are so few white people in the world. Anglos need to breed more.

>> No.12339506

>>12339441
>This is literally any liberal girl at a college in a city? Did you go to school dumbfuck?

Yes because i live in the USA, you presumptuous retarded faggot. And also, i don't date white women i date black cunt exclusively

>> No.12339520

>>12336986
Imagine thinking the government is after your peanuts lol small change motherfucker

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>>12339380
>>12339441
I think socialists are trying to meme her as being sexy because an average latina woman looks better than 99% of pink haired hambeasts wearing problem glasses in their camp.

You can find tons of Latina Catholic church girls who look as good as her in the South if that's your thing. Pic related my gf stay mad virgins.

>> No.12339566

Wealth disparity is just a symptom of the main problem that we're infested with a fuckton of sub 90 IQ brainlets who pump out babies regardless of their financial situation. Jobs are becoming more and more complicated, and AI is replacing most retard-level careers which could previously net you a house and a couple kids. Increasing taxes would just lead to more and more of these fucks reproducing and leeching off the system. The problem is that these people are simply too stupid to live today, and certainly too stupid to live 20 years from now.

>> No.12339581

>>12339482
You poor naive child

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>>12339566
Checked.
We need a sensible system that prevents the trash from reproducing. Deflationary currency + no more gibs will do the trick.

>> No.12339592

>>12336511
Just make it a cash tax. Any income above $200,000 that isn't invested should be taxed 95%. Fuck you if you're making that much and not investing it back into the economy, even into something as meager as treasuries.

>> No.12339606

>>12336511
So the rich are just going to move out of the USA? Oh well here in Europe we'll take your brain drain. Germany will rise again. Uber alles.

>> No.12339611

>>12339592
fuck off retard. You'll kill the whole economy like that, because nobody will even do the fucking effort to earn that much. You guys are so fucking dumb you should honestly consider buying a fucking rope

>> No.12339624

>>12338453
Is this bait? Im sorry sir I cannot tell.

>> No.12339708

>>12339587

How about something like this: Universal Basic Income is a thing. Everyone takes an IQ test and based on where you're at, you get your money. For instance, let's say sub 90 you get 80k a year, average IQ gets 60k, smart folks get 40k. However, if you reproduce you get nothing.

Ignoring the crazy rise of infanticide, I think it could work.

>> No.12339710

>>12339606
Hope you like Jewish financiers.

>> No.12339715

>>12339708
Then I'd pretend to be a retard.

>> No.12339724

>>12339710
Well when it comes to Europeans we have a jewish vacuum. If they start rubbing their hands together we'll know what to do.

>> No.12339758

>>12339715
and you wouldn't reproduce

>> No.12339793

>>12336909
no, most people here don't earn enough to pay taxes

>> No.12339811

>>12339758
So? What if I seeded some 3rd world babe and have illegitimate children all around the world? I can fly around if I get paid that much for free by the government, especially considering how little money poor countries have. I'd become disciple breeder. Even in America itself I could have illegitimate children. Wife pretends to be retarded until she's 30, has a child, gets her social benefits cut, just move wife to some 3rd world safe shithole and be millionaires there.
Oh man you're so bad at this.

>> No.12339812

>>12337304
you are not rich, we know that.

any new tax reform will go after the .1%, like literally making 1 billion +

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>>12336662
>>12336662
>>12336662

>> No.12339880

>>12338634

That's more or less how it all works regardless. Whether its armored knights on horseback or angry wagies seizing muh means of production rallying men with weapons to your banner is always the name of the game.

>> No.12339902

>>12339811

None of your children would be U.S. citizens. This isn't a quick fix by any means. This would play out over a few generations, making the U.S. an overall smarter, richer country. I could give a fuck about your mixed, foreign, fuck-faced children.

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>>12339566
>Wealth disparity is just a symptom of the main problem that we're infested with a fuckton of sub 90 IQ brainlets who pump out babies regardless of their financial situation.

>>12339587
>We need a sensible system that prevents the trash from reproducing

>> No.12339948

>>12337535
>90% tax rate is logical
that is straight up theft you fucking imbecile. nobody in their right mind would put up with that.

>> No.12339994

>>12339902
As much as you hate sub 90 IQ brainlets you sure aren't above 80 IQ points. Read an economic book, brainlet. You can't just give away everyone large sums of money. UBI would be enough just to scrap by. If you have huge UBI you inflate the dollar, no other country wants to invest in America, everyone stops holding dollar, nations get rid of investments related to dollar ex oil. World plunges into chaos, you give away your countrys leading role in the world. Congratulations you now have UBI. You're a socialist state. You get isolated by the world, you get put against the wall and shot because you did what a socialist useful idiot does. Now for you to not resist and lead opposite side revolution, since you were among the first and bravest to lead USA into socialist future, you get shot. You have just learned about Soviet Union pretty much. Congratz.

>> No.12340014

>>12339914
Even though past solutions to these problems have been harsh and inhumane it doesn't change the fact that they're still problems.

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>>12340014
You misunderstand me fren

The eternal propogation of the refuse is going to ensure humanity dies out on a heap of garbage, choking to death under a polluted sky. Sometimes it's better to pull the bandaid off all at once so to speak.

>> No.12340056

>>12339994

UBI at a lower level of benefit would also get the job done, just to a lesser extent. The only idea I was trying to get across is that we need to subsidize low IQ individuals who choose not to reproduce. This would solve a lot of problems generations down the line.

>> No.12340072

>>12340049

I believe we're better than that.

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>>12340056
UBI but you can never vote and agree to be sterilized

>> No.12340076

>>12340049
This. Every American needs to be killed in order to save the race.

>> No.12340195

>>12339994
Also I don't hate low IQ brainlets. They can't help the fact that they live in an increasingly complex world. The idea of "just work harder" is awful and will become even more ridiculous in the future.

>> No.12340257

>>12339708
This actually isn't a bad idea.

>> No.12340268
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imagine that wrapped around your dick tip

>> No.12340376

>>12340056
I think that everyone should be given equal amount of UBI, fixed by inflation. If you have a job you get extra money you can spend on nice things, invest, create a business. If you don't want to work, you have UBI thanks to which you can survive. This makes fair playing field because of automation and people who had head start. If you're smart instead of working for others you can educate yourself or come up with an invention. Now it's like work to eat which is retarded. UBI would actually birth a lot of smart people who would do what they like and increase competitive capitalism.

You shouldn't limit or punish people for having children. The bigger your population which can sustain itself the better. It means more geniuses, more inventions, more firepower if war breaks out. There's literally no reason to limit non degenerate fucking.

If you let people trick others or get ahead in life easily by faking IQ tests you're no better than a socialist crying out for equality by giving riches to blacks which they will spend for their own selfish benefit. You have to look at the bigger picture, look at the country. Giving UBI by IQ or by any other bullshit metric doesn't make any sense. It's socialist drivel of equality.

>>12340075
Why not just go back to the times when America was the most prosperous then? Enslave minorities, don't let women vote or get a job. Slaves work to be fed, women stay at home, half of population gets cut off from work thus increasing wages of men. Now businesses need to bend backwards to find workers and they pay huge wages because they lack people. Women raise children. You don't import third worlders who would compete for jobs. Also you lower the age of consent to around 12, like back when it was before feminism. You can now have an extremely fertile wife with the best possible eggs in nature. There. Fixed. But we can't go back.

>> No.12340390

>>12340195
Just work harder never works. In capitalism you have to extract money from others through a business or something innovative. There's no other way, honey. So if you live in this system instead of waiting for a change that will never come, why not try to get ahead?

>> No.12340441

>>12338299
If you made 100k, would you be ok with handing over 90k to the government? Do you assume they know better than you what you need?

>> No.12340455

>>12340441
That's not how taxes work.

>> No.12340463

>>12336511
>Starts taxing rich people
>Rich people moves
>Can't pay her expensive stuff
>Country tumbles
>Breadlines

She can EASILY succeed the socialist dream

>> No.12340486

>>12340463
Where would they go?

>> No.12340498

>>12340463
This is what wagies actually believe.

>> No.12340505

>>12340486
Another country, look at Sweden. A record swedes moving abroad because they are taxed too much and crimes are rising, people with money can actually do that you know

>> No.12340517

>>12340455
>Hey why can't rich people just pay more taxes for the fruits of their ideas, hard labor, their money earned and risked through shitty jobs to support the poor leeches of society
A rich person will either move the fuck away (he can buy any citizenship with his capital, take his wealth, factories, taxes and fuck off to Europe) or not do any work anymore and just become one of the lazy fucks because there's no reason for him to work and earn the same amount as everyone. Why innovate? Let's all just be equal and get the same paycheck no matter our job. Welcome again to Communist Russia.

>> No.12340522

>>12339554
You do know reverse image search is a thing, right?

>> No.12340591

>>12340376
I agree with a lot of what you say here, except for the bigger population equals more innovation nonsense. As for the IQ metric, obviously there are a lot of bad IQ tests out there, but if we could establish an extremely reliable one, there is almost no other factor that is more highly correlated to success. And yes, it would be a socialist policy for sure, but it takes a huge illogical leap to jump from opt-in UBI to being lined up and shot.

Your proposed type of UBI doesn't solve the wealth disparity issue and it subsidizes more low-class, low-IQ children. Asking these people to simply "invent something" is ridiculous. Come on man.

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>>12340591
America had such great capitalistic principles that most of the worlds smartest people moved there. American dream wasn't and isn't bullshit. It's system that works. Elon Musk was born in South Africa. A lot of historical figures immigrated there to innovate. It's freedom that lets you become who you can become. As little government intervention as possible.

You want a persons whole life to be judged by an IQ test he took when he was like 18? Think about it. IQ can be improved by solving math problems or studying. It's not set in stone. Would you measure IQ every year? Could a person move up and down UBI brackets? Most people who start their businesses start them after working for someone else and figuring out how to innovate in that sphere. Wealth is naturally distributed by rich people spending it on luxury or food or anything. If you hate rich people so much why don't you create some luxury brand and extract money from the rich through fair means? I'm attaching an image of people who started their businesses later in life. They didn't have enough experience or IQ points because they haven't been through enough shit to figure out what people needed.

I mentioned Elon Musk not without a reason. He was bullied a lot as a young child. Let's say some kind of trauma sets on him because of bullying and he falls into depression, fucks up his GPA or something else. Judging by your IQ UBI theory he's fucked for life because of a shitty start and his bullies got better monetary head start because they weren't damaged and got higher IQ score. How is this fair?

Equal UBI is the only way. Even rich people don't stay rich forever man. They die and by the third generation their children become poor again (most of the time, look it up). Because of inflation and leeching off their parents success.

Smart people don't stay smart forever. Do you still pay high IQ dude who becomes retarded the same amount of money? Because of some test way back?

>> No.12340867

>>12339468
You don't pay taxes on trades until you close out positions, why do you think this would change?

>>12339506
>Want to fuck a particular hispanic girl
>Talking about how you "exclusively" only fuck black girls

Whatever man lol

>>12339554
Agreed

>> No.12340890

>>12336519
Start making more than 96k or so, even with a family, and you'll see how the government treats the "wealthy".

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>>12339441
>employee payroll tax 7.65%
>employer payroll tax 7.65%
>income tax 10-37%
>state income tax 0-13%
>local income tax 1-4%
Wagies are already being taxed between 26.3% for a basic bitch wage cuck to north of 60% if you're a professional living in one of our communist states. Not including sales and property tax by the way.

>> No.12341050

>>12340857
America is just another hegemonic imperialist power. As its empire dies it will shrink back into the backwater mutt country it always was.

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She's the media's socialist poster child because she's mildly attractive and Latina (wow, Mexicans look like THAT? Blumpf btfo), a farcry from the Tumblr whales who have turned into an absolute meme.

It's too bad she's got the brain size of a peanut and will not survive politics very long once the media stop giving her free attention. She's going to burn out eventually.

>> No.12341061

>>12340857
I agree with you, America has the greatest innovation because of our mindset, not because of a bigger population. That mindset would not change.

As for IQ, it is incredibly difficult to change, and after adolescence nearly impossible. IQ "points" aren't something you gain over time like your super relevant pic. I'd wager nearly everyone on that chart has an above average IQ. If not at least 90%. The point is, if you aren't smart, it's difficult to be successful. That much we know.

The Elon Musk thing I flat out don't understand what you're getting at. If the bullies got higher IQ scores, they'd make less than Elon who's "trauma" somehow made him dumb.

The 3rd generation lose all the wealth bullshit is right-wing propaganda to convince brainlets like yourself that anything is possible. Trump's a good example of someone who still benefits from his granddad's fortune. Wealthy people generally stay wealthy, poor people generally stay poor. This isn't difficult.

>> No.12341083

>>12336511
Welcome to Europe

>> No.12341102

>>12340376
I'm the second poster you were replying to. In no way did you address anything I said in my posts; infant you sound like a massive fucking psued.

Stop wasting everyone's time if you're just going to shoehorn in your reddit manifestos randomly.

>> No.12341129

>>12340890
Start making better financial decisions. You don't need children AND a home in a trendy metro area AND a current model car. Learn to live within your means.

>> No.12341293

>>12341061
America was the greatest innovation because of how lax it was. Only during the last 100 years did your government decide to get into everyones daily lives. Way back you used to be able to hire youth during weekends and there used to be no income taxes before the fed. Everything was libertarian as fuck. How it should be in capitalism. Freedom and competition. Now in America and most of the world government gets into your shit because they want piece of the tax pie because they got off the gold standard and it's the only way to have an equal playing field. If you want better for capitalism ask for less government tentacles. Ask for lesser bureaucracy apparatus for which you pay with taxes and cannot have UBI because of.

You cannot punish smart people with less money. If America innovated with UBI other nations will follow and smart people will find the best place for them. Don't forget the brain drain competition between nations. Some place will pay everyone equally and smart people will leave America.

Trump had the capital, yes, but he didn't sit on his ass with it and lose it all on luxurious lifestyle. He made the money make money. If anything you should be mad at your parents for not giving you the capital that Trump had access to. Now your children won't have capital also. Taking capital from the rich is no way to even the playing field when you have inflation. Rich people invest. Be it stocks, real estate or something that turns profit. It's that simple really. It boggles my mind how Americas fail life on ez mode. Everyone in there has BANK. It's easy to turn profit because everyone is making enough to spend. Try living in Eastern Europe where minimum wage is 450 dollars a month for 40 hr weeks. Everyone's just trying to survive. Or even be born in poorer world countries. Everyone can complain but that never got anyone anywhere. It leads to death and destruction.

>>12341102
I was just showing the best profit option for the nation ignoring humanity.