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12318426 No.12318426 [Reply] [Original]

Apple's crash is not funny.
People are losing life savings.
Have some compassion Edition.

>I'm new to the stock market, what stocks should I buy?
Before you buy anything, make a brokerage account and read investopedia articles and/or the books in the OP list. If you don't have a broker, you can't buy stocks, Ratsu has the IQ of swiss cheese, and if you blindly buy things without understanding how the stock market works or doing any research on the individual stocks you're buying, you will lose money and it will be entirely your fault.

List of popular brokers:
https://pastebin.com/mrSchZPg

List of basic stock market terminology for newfags:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

Real-time market news:
https://thefly.com/index.php

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free in depth technical analysis charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Data:
https://pastebin.com/y9PRQLR3

Earnings Report Calendars:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

Basic rundown on lean hogs:
http://www.theoptionsguide.com/lean-hogs-futures-buying.aspx

Suggested books:
https://pastebin.com/jgA5zTuC

People who need to work on their compassion:
>>12315973

>> No.12318460
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this is going to crash campbells soup further isnt it

>> No.12318463

What's the most NPC thing you've heard someone say recently?

>> No.12318467
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>>12318460

>> No.12318468
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LGTS....

>Apple

>> No.12318469

>>12318463
the stock market is just a gamble

>> No.12318475

>>12318426
>loosing life savings
Lollllllllll
I only lost 100$ and this shit is gonna rebound too.

>> No.12318476
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>>12318463
>buy the dip

>> No.12318481

>>12318463
From my sister:
>haha why are you saving for retirement now? You do that when you're old

>> No.12318494

Short
P
Y

Long
C
I

>> No.12318510

>>12318494
meant for >>12318463

>> No.12318512

Hoping for a rotation to value and defensive sectors like healthcare and utilities

>> No.12318519
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>>12318207
>implying most people care about practicality
Good to know, thanks. But that really puts a damper on my interest in 5g. So it'll be like super fast Bluetooth?

>>12318471
Yeah man I'm 16% apple, 84% cash

>>12318155
Crypto seems like bullshit to me. How is it different from buying in to a pyramid scheme and hoping more people buy it after you?

>> No.12318525

Aapl hasn't introduced an innovative idea since Steve Jobs died.
>inb4 face recognition.
That was already available on android. Also Samsung is releasing 5g in the fall and will be on everyones christmas list. Apple wont release until 2020.
They lost their edge.

>> No.12318540

>>12318519
>So it'll be like super fast Bluetooth
no, it just means it will need more infrastructure to make it work (so invest in the people selling the infrastructure)

>> No.12318542

>>12318519
>Yeah man I'm 16% apple, 84% cash
Oof.
It was so ridiculously overvalued, vulnerable to both recession risk and trade war risk.

>> No.12318545

>>12318525
I dunno, the way they deprecated commonly used features and made their fucktard user base pay more for peripherals was pretty smart.

>> No.12318559
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Trying out a new doohickey widget on trading view today. Pivot point indicator dealio. I like it as it allow me to quickly identify most of the notable highs and lows on a chart for any given time frame. It defaults to a period of 10 which I think is a little long for my purposes. Trying it with 5 instead for now.

>>12318494
>short spy
>long lci

y-you know lci is probably going to go down if the S&P goes down... r-right?

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>>12318426
We will have compassion. Yes... we will have compassion, when you and all your gains have perished — and the works of your quantitative easer to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar, bullcuck, and a corrupter of men's fortunes. You hold out your hand to me, and I perceive only a finger of the claw of the jew.... Even if your war on me was just as it was not... even so, what will you say of our national debt and the children that will suffer from it? When you hang from a gibbet at Wall Street for the sport of your own bankers, I will have compassion with you.... A lesser shortseller am I, but I do not need to lick your hooves. Turn elsewhither. But I fear your bull run has run out of steam.

>> No.12318587

>>12318481
YIKES

>> No.12318588

>>12318577
Holy fuck, you bear larpers are pathetic
Embarrassing

>> No.12318591

>>12318542
Yeah, it hurts now but I don't think they're out of the game. Maybe my iron hands will pay off.

>> No.12318604

>>12318591
If you're ok with waiting another 10, 20 years, maybe.

>> No.12318616

>>12318467
ah.. It hurts really bad..

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I've got a problem /smg/ I'm fairly successful with my options lately (saved up around 90k) and I've noticed different habits developing in terms of degenerate behavior. When I was working my dead end minimum wage job I never had these problems but now that I have a steady stream of dosh flowing in I've smoked, drank and fucked more than ever. I even ordered a hooker for the very first time after shorting AAPL and felt like I needed to "reward" myself. I feel like such a fucking pig, can someone please help me? oh oh and also, I started vaping...ughhh I need help.

>> No.12318633

>>12318559
>y-you know lci is probably going to go down if the S&P goes down... r-right?
it doesn't always happen like that in the market... i understand where you're coming from.. but it just doesn't always happen like that.

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I meant to ask in the old thread what is this anime in the op. looked apex comfy.

>> No.12318654

>>12318545
I suppose there is some truth to this but the wow factor of new phones just isnt what it used to be.
5G could be a game changer though. Those kinds of speeds could potentially replace home internet if tethered to a router. Problem is coverage will take a while.
I still dont get why they introduced the 8 and X at the same time. Should've focused on one phone and maybe a slightly more econo model like with 6s, 6c.
Also why arent mini projectors on phones a thing yet?

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>>12318616

>> No.12318656

>>12318588
You sound like you lost a lot of money in the past 3 months.

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>>12318656
I unironically wish I would lose all of my money
Money corrupts...

>> No.12318684

>>12318622
I dunno man, you were supposed to like make a new years resolution to quit drinking, cocaine, benzos and banging different hookers all the time like me.

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>>12318588
you sound like you just woke up from three month coma and havent looked at a chart yet

>> No.12318689

>>12318622
You need something to discipline your time. Find a part time job, start working on some kind of project, writing, researching, art, learning some skill. Develop a schedule.

>> No.12318703
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>>12318426
Made bank shorting China through YANG ETF last month. Feels good man.

Any other anons with a bear strategy on China?

>> No.12318707

>>12318622
>>12318679
these whores are disgusting

>> No.12318712

why is everyone suddenly bearish

>> No.12318720

>>12318689
I've gotten so lazy though
I wake up
Make myself a very sugary cup of coffee with a mixture of york peppermint patty creamer and an oreo creamer and make a big big glass of it
play some fortnite while staring at my charts (I have dual screen) and then when I lose my game of fortnite I look at which stock I want to short on that day

I also gamble on penny stocks as of late
some retard anon told me to invest magnegas a couple of days ago so I bought 100k shares and well I'm losing money on that and unironically don't care

wish I would lose it all..

>> No.12318723

>>12318712
mostly due to recency bias and the fact that we're in a bear market

>> No.12318724

>>12318712
Apple news. It's a good indicator that the bull is about to begin tho.

>> No.12318730

>>12318712
topic creator defines market sentiment.

>> No.12318732

>>12318679
ignore >>12318689
If you want your life style to change you have to change things in your life man, but that doesn't mean you have to become some mindless slave drone like this commie faggot. Just fucking take some fucking control of your impulses and do what ever you want. The key is to think twice act once.

>> No.12318733

>>12318712
stocks are dead
real estate is about to feel the squeeze too
gold and silver will wane and die (gold will be sub 400)

>> No.12318737

>>12318712
>Dow drops 3k in a month

>Wh-why's everyone bearish guys?

>> No.12318746

AND IM FREEEEEEEEE

>> No.12318747
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>>12318712
its almost like we're in a bear market

>> No.12318750

>>12318732
you're probably right
can you believe I was so close to actually paying these whores to defecate on me
I'm so glad I said no...idk what's happened to me that I've fallen so low but It's time to change my life

ty anon!
ty /smg/!

>> No.12318752

>>12318646
Yuru Camp

>> No.12318756
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>>12318622
>you have been visited by the choad gremlin of shrivelled peckers
>reply shoo shoo to this image or loose 5 inches off your dick

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>>12318426
BUFFETT SOLD APPLE

>> No.12318765

IF EVERYBODY IS BEARISH, BE BULLISH

BE GREEDY WHEN OTHERS ARE FEARFUL

BUFFET SAMA RISE UP

>> No.12318766

>>12318712
Everyone's a fucking shill and the bears shut up when things go up and the bulls shut up when things go down. That way nobody is ever wrong.

>> No.12318771

Is apple just going to keep nosediving?
Should I buy in now?
I've never done this before.

>> No.12318774

>>12318762
Old man has lost his touch, must not be paying the right money for inside info these days

>> No.12318781

>>12318762

sauce?

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>>12318712
Aapl just revised their outlook from pathetic ro abysmal. Everyone is in full speculation mode as to what it all means. So yeah shit will inevitably tank tomorrow because squeamish boomers are at the end of their cycles and their balls have shrivelled into raisins.

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>>12318765
youre right
green day tommrow

>> No.12318791

SITTING COMFY IN SHORT TERM BONDS HERE BOIS

>> No.12318800

>>12318771
you should probably first stop and make yourself a plan. otherwise you should realise, you are gambling.

>> No.12318806

>>12318782
ima make so much money going long volatility and SQQQ. I might lose on the DUST, but who fucking cares 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

>> No.12318815

>>12318752
thanks friend

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OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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>>12318762
>BUFFETT SOLD APPLE
holy heckies its REALLLLLLLL
hahahahaha

>> No.12318827

>>12318720
Well it's that laziness you've got to turn around. Human beings need purpose in life, we need to feel like we are being productive towards some goal.

You loose that discipline, and succumb to total laziness and boredom, you become the slave of your lowest impulses instead of the your highest values.

>>12318732
>>12318750
Disciplining your time doesn't make you a mindless slave drone. Very few people can just make their lives better via sheer force of will, if you can do it more power to ya. But if you can't, you got to learn how to manipulate your material circumstances and necessity to get the psychology you want.

>> No.12318833

>>12318821

GIVE ME THE SAUCE!

>> No.12318841

>>12318821
sauce

>> No.12318843

>>12318821
Sauce? Nothing on google.

>> No.12318850
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>>12318833
>>12318841
>>12318843
@_@
me lied, just wanted for meme ;_;
pls forgive me

>> No.12318866

>>12318850

cunt.

>> No.12318867
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>>12318781
He didn't. Berkshire increased it's holding in apple by half a million shares in Q3 and owns over 5%. Buffett will never sell.
Pic related is from an hour ago.

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I was gonna buy aapl puts after robinhood cleared my deposit.
Fuck.

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>>12318712
Embrace the bear.

>> No.12318879

>>12318850
>memeing
All memes should be fucking killed
I hate them

>>12318815
No problem fren

>> No.12318881

>>12318850
nigger

>> No.12318882

>>12318850
I really think we should get a social media/news presence for /smg/ to spread fake news like this over the world. how come only the big players get to do that type of thing. As a side note buffet selling you're shares is a literal death note for any company.

>> No.12318886

>>12318750
kys you dicklett freak

>> No.12318893

It's no surprise that Apple disappointed. I can do everything I need to do on an Android phone costing less than $200. Why the fuck does anyone need a very expensive iPhone anymore?

>> No.12318895

>>12318867
so tech's fucked at open, financials are fucked at open, which mean spy is fucked at open, which means volatility to the moon and more chain sale cheapies?

>> No.12318898

AMRN has been given a stock price set at 35 per by research analysts at Cantor Fitzgerald. After hearing nothing new from the company or the drug for a while this gives me renewed hope that there are no more nasty surprises lurking. It's no secret that I have the majority of what little money I dumped into the market in AMRN. (Dis,S&P 500 fund, & T are the other major ones).

Come on FDA fuckers, green light this already. Waiting for the mega Profit load is killing me. Didn't take you fucks long to green light Viagra did it?

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>>12318850
compassion much?

>> No.12318909

>>12318898
I'm hoping that faltering tech stocks will prompt a rotation to defensive sectors like healthcare and utilities

>> No.12318911

>>12318463
I love firework!

>> No.12318918

>>12318895
It means we're buying the fucking cheapies at open like this morning same routine

>> No.12318927
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>>12318895
All signs point to that anon but Im still scared to pull the trigger on anything big. The fucking china shit has me spooked, like i short the fuck out of everything and some "breakthrough" in talks happens. Eveything is just so fucking spoofy.

>> No.12318931

Thoughts on VXX calls?

>> No.12318932
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omegakek

>> No.12318940

>>12318918
When my DUST drops im adding to it, hurray for cheapies.

>> No.12318942

>>12318893
Just for the status symbol or the brand I guess. I guess you can argue that there's some better games and apps on iOS, but if you just wanted a cheap phone you could go for a low end Android device anyways.
That's not to say there aren't expensive Android phones though.

>> No.12318950

>>12318931
time to do that was power hour, shit's going to gap and fall, you can get some puts at open if you want cheapies though

>> No.12318962
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>>12318867
holding FAZ and SQQQ
when SQQQ spikes i’ll roll it into FAZ also
first the techies fall, then the investors who were dumb enough to buy them

>> No.12318963

Cheapies is best bet. Shorting this market when a deal(or progress) on China trade can happen at any time is a risky proposition.

>> No.12318964
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>>12318850

>> No.12318974

>>12318962
Sound strategy anon.

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>>12318932
what about these circles?

>> No.12318985

>>12318950
Cheap SPY puts, this fucking panic is gonna go insane.

>> No.12319009

All FAANG companies should be burned to the ground

>> No.12319012

>>12318980
It has to completely cross then lead to a recession to be listed on the chart which means we will all die shortly, per CNBC's narrative.

>> No.12319028

>>12318985
Apple is already down like 35 or what ever percent from its September high, how much lower can this FUD possibly push it?

>> No.12319029

>>12318932
>>12318980
memelines on the tele

>> No.12319043
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Berkshire will announce on their next report that they have ditched their Apple shares over Q4, dont worry.

>> No.12319055

>>12319028
100USD easily this year. At 90USD it may be worth looking into it, but only if they fired Tim Cock.

>> No.12319057

>>12318765
Lmao

>> No.12319061

>>12319028
Long term I see no reason for apple not to recover, they still have a strong brand.
This is a fuckup like the apple watch launch, which they did fine in recovering from.

>> No.12319079

do you guys think the bogleheads will start panicking and dump passive? there’s so much capital in index funds nowadays

>> No.12319080

>>12319061
Yeah right only that the Watch is a tiny part of operations, and the extremly overprized iPhone they cant sell anymore is 60% of the company.

>> No.12319084

>>12319043
Hi, My name is Todd Combs, a Berkshire Hathaway Hit Squad has been sent to your location. Thank you for your cooperation.

>> No.12319088

>>12319080
Hm
Point taken.

>> No.12319110

>>12319079
No. They don't time the market.

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>>12318850
Best post of the year

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>>12318712

Apple news and S&P touching but not breaking resistance today.

>> No.12319161

>>12318577
Checked and based and redpilled

>> No.12319179

>>12319122

What book are those quotes from?

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Thank you leveraged bear etfs for the sweet, sweet gains you are about to bring

>> No.12319187

who the FUCK is jack bogle and why should I gaf about some boomer

>> No.12319203

>>12319187
Do you even english bro?

>> No.12319204

>>12318850
Wow what a dank memer you are, English-as-a-third-language anon!

I think you'd fit in great with us over at /s4s/!

>> No.12319205

>>12318980
i'm laughing at the memelines not at the memelines' arguments

>> No.12319207

>>12319179
Mormom

>> No.12319209

anyone pissed at apple plunge? couldn't take that shit and sold. fuck, down 20% overall for the year. there's no sense to this shit

>> No.12319216

>>12319203
gaf is give a fuck rtard

>> No.12319226

>>12319179
Zur Elektrodynamik bewegter Körper

>> No.12319244

>>12319216
I just asked if you english bro. I don't "gaf" about your faggot 15yr-old terms.

>> No.12319251

>>12319226
Keep it in english, Mohammad.

>> No.12319254

Recession confirmed. SPY is going to 150. Sell immediately on open unless you want to hold bags for 10 years. SPY futures already -1.30% and freefalling. QQQ -2%.

>> No.12319256

>>12319244
not english, I'm american

>> No.12319259

>>12319209
I hope it goes to $100. Then I'll buy.

>> No.12319266

>>12319187
He is the father of index funds and promotes chad style market matching instead of virgin undershooting.

>> No.12319270

>>12319244
>>12319216
ladies calm your tits, we're watching apple blow the fuck up and getting roound 3 super extra awesome cheapies.

>> No.12319274

>>12319251
On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies

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>>12318980
Looks legit anon.

>> No.12319281

>>12319270
that's what they said about FB but I bought that shit at 201

>> No.12319285

>>12319256
To answer,
>John Clifton "Jack" Bogle is an American investor, business magnate, and philanthropist. He is the founder and retired chief executive of The Vanguard Group

>> No.12319306

>>12319259
Maybe it'll go to $130-140 at worst. I have a feeling people are going to start buying now that its low.

>> No.12319308

can they just open the market for like 5 minutes real fast? Call it a "glitch" or something? I wanna move some shit around real quick.

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>>12319308
Ill call my guy.

>> No.12319368

>bought 800 shares of SQQQ 30 minutes before market close
>Apple BTFO right after

oh YES

>> No.12319375

>>12318481
Good to know its not just you in the family who's retarded

>> No.12319381

>>12319368
you'll probably grab a g-note tomorrow.

>> No.12319382
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Also this

>> No.12319393
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>>12319381
Not sure what that means but ooga booga get dat money ye ye skkrrrrrrrt

>> No.12319404

>>12319368
I opened SQQQ calls an hour before we closed. I can't fucking wait for tomorrow.

>> No.12319408

>>12319393
Notes are paper currency. In the metric system, G is short for giga-, 10^9 or a billion
Basically, it means you're gonna make a billion dollars today.

>> No.12319421

>>12319408
CORRECTION:
Tomorrow. You'll be a billionaire tomorrow.

>> No.12319427

>>12318540
>(so invest in the people selling the infrastructure)
how do i find out who that is?

>> No.12319431
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>>12319368
>be tomorrow 8:30 am
>president calls morning press conference
>after a long overnight phone call with President Xiping, I am happy to announce we have agreed to a framework for a new trade deal.

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>>12319421
YE YE OOGA BOOGA GET DAT MONEY YE YE (I only regret not buying the full 2,200 shares that I could have)

>> No.12319456

SQQQ TO THE MOON!

>> No.12319463

>>12319431
not happening

>> No.12319464

okay so what did AAPL do to make Jewish overlords mad?

>> No.12319475

>>12319427
UNIT

>> No.12319479
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12319479

Getting uglier by the minute

>> No.12319490

>>12319464
They tried to make money with communists.

>> No.12319496

>>12319464
Chinese are the Jews of East-Asia. Apple made them mad by swiping a ton of juicy blueprints for chip fabrication. Funny how they don't like being on the victim's end of IP theft.

>> No.12319497

>>12319479
Literally just shot up like 100pts (dow)

>> No.12319508

Imagine if America actually had to manufacture things again.

>> No.12319509
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>>12319475
>I'm already invested in UNIT

>> No.12319513

S-TRIPLE Q TO THE MOON
FINNA DAB ON A NIBBA
SMOKE SOME ROCK, PULL OUT MA GLOCK
CAP THE NASDAQ IN THE DICK
BITCH MA WALLET GETTIN THICK
YE YE
OOGA BOOGA
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

>> No.12319520

>>12319463
He's basically going to say that though. He'll claim to have made substantial progress on either China's trade negotiations or on talking down Powell.

I wonder how many algos get bullish based on his nonsense.

>> No.12319527
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12319527

>>12319509
Nice fren :-) I've got nothing for you then.

>> No.12319534

>>12319496
everything relates back to China.

>> No.12319537

>>12319496
You're going to wish the Jews were actually the conspiracy you think they are once the Chinese are done restructuring the world in mao's image.

>> No.12319558

>>12319520
It's a real possibility. He will say anything to stop the bleeding.

>> No.12319563

im REALLY REALLY enjoying these cheap SSO QLD SPY QQQ purchases I'm making

>> No.12319586

>>12319537
>kike detected
you are parasites
your people actively undermine the goyim and seek their destruction, look up the kalergi plan you fucking kike
I hope the chinks murder you all along with the niggers

>> No.12319592
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12319592

newfag here
are memelines really a meme? I was about to read a technical analysis book

>> No.12319616

>>12319592
It depends. Do you view horoscopes as a credible source of information?

>> No.12319624

>>12319592
meme lines are great until you get a binary event and you have to make new meme lines, but then like 6 months later everybody forgot what caused that candle there and it's all factored into the meme line like its a cyclical thing except it was actually an anomaly and not truly part of the natural and organic lines of the meme.

>> No.12319635

>>12319592
Then read it. Are you afraid you might learn something?

>> No.12319640

>>12319592
the ichimoku cloud works

read up on it, you dont need to trade with anything else

>> No.12319652

>>12319490
developing their economy is really biting back.

>> No.12319703

>>12319640
Does this work well with swing trading?

>> No.12319716

FUCK PENDULUM EDITION

>> No.12319738
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What’d you guys do to the market? Lol

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>>12318476
unironically, this is why im buying the dip. the banks will teach us one way or other. be a good goy.

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>/TECH'd/
I WANT MY MONEY BACK

>> No.12319765

>>12319738
comfy didn't sell his tqqq so the whole fucking world has to suffer texanon.

>> No.12319771

>>12318463
>Golden BULL

>> No.12319777
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Been ignoring the market for the past few days, since the 90 day purchase ban.

Check top of thread and see apple crash. Look it up and apple is actually down over 7% in after hours. JESUS. I only have 1000 dollars in microsoft at a price average of 101 dollars but I think I might sell tomorrow even though its the only thing in my portfolio. If Apple is crashing this hard 3 months into the bear market still we are all fucked if holding stocks. Kinda glad I have to wait three more months hopefully then things will be more settled

>> No.12319781

>>12318712
>suddenly

>> No.12319795

>>12319777
Based MSFT is the only thing that hasn't been gay these past three months. Everything else is just a big piece of shit.

>> No.12319801

Are you guys turning bearish on the whole market just because AAPL tanked for 1 quarter, even with their warchest of billions of dollars? Get a grip.

>> No.12319808
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We are in the second dot com bubble... Boo hoo, they don't innovate and only spy on us to rig elections and sell targeted ads... Maybe boomers need to feel some pain...

>> No.12319810

>>12319801
Market leaders suddenly underperforming is bearish signal anon.

>> No.12319820
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12319820

let it burn

>> No.12319821

>>12319592
it's an art not a science

>> No.12319828

>>12319801
Tim Cuck accidentlied the whole warchest on chinese whores and fentanyl, that's why he sent out the press release so that when you see the report it won't look as bad.

>> No.12319840

Samsung STRONK, invest now. Getting ripped from the teat of the eleven godesses was the best thing that could have happened to them

>> No.12319841

>>12319801
we are 3 months into a constant down trend and apple went from like 230 to 146 in two months. Not to mention big money has been consistently pulling out of semi conductors all year

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>>12319624

That's true but you are supposed to take in to account possible anomalies like that when drawing meme lines. There are two main schools of thought for trend lines in swing trading: 1. you must connect the peaks/bottoms precisely or 2. you take an average along the peaks/bottoms such that the line is more representative of the long term trend. #2 is by far the more popular for active swing and day traders.

It's important to understand that trend lines are understood to be a general thing for traders to identify to their own satisfaction that a trend is consistent or has broken down in some way such that the old trend line is now invalid. You change your trend lines on a regular basis to most closely reflect the actual price movement. Key support and resistance lines are the much more critical price levels to watch, in comparison to trend lines. Personally, I identify my trades initially based on trend lines, but my buy/sell orders are heavily weighted towards price behaviour around support/resistance lines.

>> No.12319854

>>12319738

I din do nuffin.

>> No.12319856

>>12319801
Nothing personal
There is no reason why the market should be up, other than blatant manipulation.

>> No.12319874

>>12319810
You're assuming that MM are bearish, so, what is wrong with the financial market? If they just want to collect the dues, then they will attempt to trick the population with a fake recession signal, then buy out the retail's bags to obtain even more compounding securities compounding their banks as the interest rate increases which makes buying later less attractive.

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12319890

buffet bought high and got dumped on lol

Is he ever right at picking tech stocks between this ibm and intel he is just bad

>> No.12319895

>>12319890
he also bought a lot of oracle LOL

>> No.12319903

>>12319890
haha boomer faget. Your world is over smug old fuck

>> No.12319907

>>12319890
my boomer parents are huge buffett fans. i will admit that this schranfreude is somehow delicious. i still do not think that aapl doing badly justify buying puts on qqq for example.

>> No.12319909

Will Apple still exist in ten years?

>> No.12319910

>>12319890
Imagine losing $2.8 billion and you're just like "dam, we'll get em next time"

>> No.12319917
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12319917

knock knock

>> No.12319920

>>12318724
you retard, everyone including Michael Hudson is saying the next crash is going to end America.

>> No.12319923

>tech goes down
>so as a result literally everything else goes down too
Regulate silicon valley

>> No.12319935

>>12319909
they could stop turning a profit tomorrow and could live 30 years off their current assets.
They're not going anywhere.

>> No.12319937
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BTC is not private or fungible.

What use does a large corporate entity or institution have with a coin that can be analysed through chain analysis so that their competitors, foreign governments, or other bad actors can analyse all of their transactions data?

Information leaked includes relationships, supply chains, profit and loss information, accumulated wealth, and more.

For people serious about Business Monero is the answer. Data mining will be a serious issue for commercial deployments.

https://youtu.be/FeNYjYA2lVg

>> No.12319943

pls answer >>12319255

>> No.12319953

>>12319943
Usually, not always, but usually, lower USD = higher Dow

>> No.12319956

Hello stock frens

I hope you are all well today

t. fren

>> No.12319957

>>12319890
He should go back to making music about being a redneck and getting cocked in margaritaville

>> No.12319958
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>>12319920
lets not be dramatic.

>> No.12319959

is this the culmination of a decade of stock buybacks from QE fiscal policy?

>> No.12319961

>>12319943
It means you should have put your money into something that earns interest.

>> No.12319965

>>12319937

BTC is fungible...

>> No.12319972

>>12319956
Thanks, its about time we see some COMPASSION around here

>> No.12319979

>>12319890
Has Buffet ever panic sold?

>> No.12319986

>>12319937
>>12319965

Retarded discord cryptofags post scripted conversation....in /smg/

>> No.12319991

what would happen if Buffett market sold however much Apple he has

or market sold anything else raelly that he has billions of

>> No.12319997

>>12319840
how do you think the price fixing suit will affect them? and i just realized looking this up that micron is also implicated, which makes me feel better about selling it tomorrow and probably replacing it with SQQQ or SPXS

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>>12318577

>> No.12320035

>>12319991
probably tank apple to a good price

>> No.12320043

>>12319991
You see he doesn't do that, he's actually got lots sitting on the bid and ask at different levels and adjusts them.

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>>12318577

>> No.12320084
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>>12320029
>>12320079
FUCK YOU BOBO

>> No.12320091

>Apple's crash is not funny

Are you fuck wads day trading or what, it's been a year of steady rise

>> No.12320093

>>12320043
Nah Berkshire swaps them out then the market either 'hodls' or sells it

>> No.12320096

>>12319586
Kek I love how incel rage and these infowars retards have so much overlap. Is it the lack of a father figure, for a terrible relationship with mother?

Oh no, I bet that was to Freudian for you. Another Jewish conspiracy I bet.

> I wonder who is behind this post.
>radical feminists ruined everything.

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>>12320091
It's not funny, but I don't care since we're going to get cheapies again. This right here though, this is fucking hilarious.

>> No.12320120

What's a cheapie?

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>>12319956

howdy fren. doing dandy.

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>>12320096
I have curly hair, will I be able to pretend I'm a Jew?

>> No.12320138

>>12320120

price goes down, shares cost less, meaning they are cheap, cheapies, cheapy cheaps.

>> No.12320150

>>12320120
>>12320138
It's part of the sell low buy lower strategy.

>> No.12320172

>>12320120
Ur mum is a cheapie lmao

>> No.12320223

>>12318895
>financials are fucked at open
Anyone care to elaborate? What's the deal with financials?

>> No.12320250

I think the markets will end positive tomorrow. I unironically think we are back in a bull market.

>> No.12320258

>>12320223
Those interest rates aren't coming down any time soon, and someone is going to pay against those debts banks issued.

>> No.12320260

>>12320250
PPT might make that happen but why do you think we are in a bull market?

>> No.12320278

>>12320250
I'm not sure it will end positive tomorrow but I do think we are going back up to all time highs in the next year and the low was Xmas Eve.

>> No.12320281

>>12320260
What is wrong with financial market? The only reason that banks would trigger a recession is if something IS wrong. This looks like just a shake out to rekt retail retards.

>> No.12320293

>>12320281
>The only reason that banks would trigger a recession is if something IS wrong
How old were you in 2009

>> No.12320296

WHY DOES IT MATTER WHAT MARKET WE ARE IN

JUST BUY BLUE CHIPPERS AND INDEX FUNDS AND FUCK OFF

20 YEARS FROM NOW THEY WILL ALL BE UP 8-10% ANNUALLY

>> No.12320314

>>12320296
Because I have rent to pay and if the market is bad I can't get a job and I have to withdraw from my positions to pay rent.

>> No.12320316

>>12320296
>having to wait 20 years to gain anything

life is really, really fucking gay

>> No.12320321

>>12320316
Patience is a virtue.

>> No.12320323

>>12320281
Are you expecting some big pop/event like in The Big Short?

The only reason the US economy is high is because of ZIRP and QE. Same with Europe. As IRs return to reasonable levels and credit tightens you're going to see a lot of fat be trimmed. The rest of EMs have already dropped significantly. We'll join them before we get any better.

>> No.12320327

>>12320296
>just wait till you're 47, goy

>> No.12320329

>>12320316
Yes it is.

>> No.12320335

>>12320321
>work hard your entire youth
>by the time you have any money to enjoy you're too old to do anything fun

>> No.12320339
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12320339

Say I sell everything tomorrow at open or pre-market. What do I put it into tomorrow to survive?

>> No.12320345

>>12320323
should also mention yields have inverted, 1-7 and everything in between.

The market has priced in zero rate hikes for this year. What "healthy" economy can't handle an interest rate that barely beats inflation?

>> No.12320350

>>12320321
Don't know about life but this guy is definitely a faggot.

>> No.12320353

>>12320321
Not if you have to spend more than what you are getting

>> No.12320354

>>12320335
>Enjoy a simple life while accumulating wealth
>Retire with no financial worries
>Pass money on to loved ones

>> No.12320358

>>12320335
pfft. if you get too high having fun in your youth you end up dead and don't get to be old and unable to do anything fun with your money. You have to find balance.

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>>12320120
The average man sees a stock that everyone wanted at two hundred dollars or one hundred dollars. A share suddenly declines to thirty which surely is the bottom until it falls to twenty. That is
absolutely the end of the crash.

Then it goes to ten; to nine; to seven. It then
becomes a certainty that this stock, which a few weeks ago was selling for more than two hundred, can't go any lower.

>> No.12320369

>>12320358
>>12320354
>put in life savings
>gain 8% over 20 years
You'd lose less holding USD

>> No.12320371
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12320371

FUCK AAPL
FUCK CHINKS
FUCK CHEETO MAN

>> No.12320378

When are you gonna go all in on apple?
100?
70?
40?

>> No.12320383

>>12320371
I like cheetos

>> No.12320390

>>12320370

>> No.12320393

>>12320369
>8%

Wtf

>> No.12320396

>>12320378
at open, i'ma open an all in bear call spread.

>> No.12320400

>>12320393
>>12320369
Oh wait I'm retarded

>> No.12320403

Up 1k today and still rising. Poorfags BTFO

>> No.12320405

>>12320323
The banks already think that the corporate equity looks good. There's no fat to be trimmed. The pension funds are very conservative with their buys, and I have no doubt that bear fags are gonna be fucked.

>> No.12320413

>>12320354
>not establishing a quasi religious crypto cult that assassinates pedos, satanists and Scientologists by the age of 50
What a gay life

>> No.12320426

>>12320296
How's that compare to inflation?

>> No.12320483

>>12320426
8% annually is much more than 2% inflation

>> No.12320496

>>12320354
>simple life = wageslaving at shit jobs and living like a stray dog
>retire with no financial worries unless the government randomly decides you're the enemy
>pass money on to no one because lmao white people having kids any time after the year 2000

>>12320358
Better to die having fun than live a long life of misery.

>> No.12320518

>>12320496
>He doesn't realize desperate Boomers will lavishly fund first generation life extension technology
>He doesn't realize he needs a self-sustaining mass of capital to enjoy a luxurious 2000-year lifespan.
Not gonna make it (wiped out in the AI wars of 2074)

>> No.12320519

>>12320339
Open a coinbase account, buy ethereum. Transfer ethereum to your binance account. Use ethereum to buy chainlink. Transfer chainlink to a hardware cold storage wallet. Wait 5 years. You're now a multimillionaire, you're welcome.

>> No.12320520

How do I short the NASDAQ on TD Ameritrade?

>> No.12320522

>>12320296
Die boomer DIE

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>>12320519
getting a job at college and I think I'll eventually blow a grand on memelink when I have money. I still need more convincing though.

>> No.12320547

>>12320520

SQQQ

>> No.12320580

me have go bedbye time and cant wait until 300 posts but made this totally cutie thread

so migrate the when this thread am over, or dont
>>12320573

;_;

>> No.12320615

>>12320296
>8-10% ANNUALLY

Not good enough.

>> No.12320620

SPXS put and AMD call

am I fucked?

>> No.12320622

>>12320483
Inflation is set at 2% annually always?

>> No.12320639

>>12320296
>>12320316
>>12320369
>>12320483
Average rate of real return for S & P 500 is roughly 1.2% for the past 20 years. That compares to about 1% for EE bonds and TIPS. If you reinvest dividends the stock return bumps up to about 3%.

>> No.12320652

>>12320580
Why do you pretend you can't speak English?

>> No.12320687

>>12320622
(check'd)
It's closer to about 2.5% but it's generally been on the decline since the 80s.

>> No.12320708

>>12320518
This is my plan. I don't want to be the loser who couldn't afford prolong despite living for 60 years

>> No.12320725

You fags should start buying silver

>> No.12320728

>>12320639
if you bought Jan 1998 and held until now, 20 years, your post inflation return is well over 4%

if your going to post lies keep your name so your useless lie posts can be filtered and ignored by everybody who is making it

im rich because im not you, feels great

>> No.12320749

>>12319959
>be CEO
>buy back stocks for 10 years
>retire w/ $100MM+ net worth

>> No.12320770

25yr old NEET who just inherited 100k and old rundown house.
wat do?
Unironically

>> No.12320779

>>12318463
>From a woman (not about me)
>"oh yeah he's uncircumcised"
>"ewww!"

How is having what God gives you normally weird? What the fuck is wrong with normies here in America?

>he didnt have his dick chopped as baby? LOLWTFWEIRD
Why

>> No.12320785

>>12320770
Hold cash. We are heading into a recession starting tomorrow. Buy in when SPY is -50% of it's current value i.e. 125.

>> No.12320809

>>12320687
>been on the decline since the 80s
Does that include the massive 10 year quarterly infusions of QE?

>> No.12320839

>>12320785
Should I keep them all in 1 bank?
I'll just buy 1 bitcoin now to get into it.

>> No.12320866

>>12320839
>asks for help
>disregard it

>> No.12320897

>>12320728
I was going on december 1998 until december 2018. Using january gets you 4% only when you're reinvesting dividends.
https://dqydj.com/sp-500-return-calculator/
Check for yourself.

>>12320809
The period since the crisis has actually had the lowest inflation rate, keep in mind that QE was occurring in a time when demand was greatly depressed and acting as a downward pressure on prices.

>> No.12320913

>>12320897
>The period since the crisis has actually had the lowest inflation rate
That sounds like nonsense double-speak.

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>>12318426
>Apple's crash is not funny.

>> No.12320966

>>12320897
your also up like 20% annually if you buy every month, which is what everybody should do

of course if your already rich and lump sum invested 20 fucking years ago your still rich it doesnt matter waht you did

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>>12320913
pic related.

>>12320966
Putting in monthly purchases is ideal, but in terms of average returns, that bumps things up to about 6% from december 1998 to december 2018. I believe that's in nominal terms.
https://dqydj.com/scripts/spcalc/sp_500_reinvester.html

>> No.12321181

>>12321105
>>12320913
I think it's probably important to understand how inflation has worked historically
https://www.macrotrends.net/2497/historical-inflation-rate-by-year

It's not that inflation rates were so much lower under the gold standard, it's that years with high inflation were canceled out with years of high deflation. Fed intervention has made it so that inflation is kept low, but at the same time deflation is prevented. This makes it so it accumulates over time.

>> No.12321182

>>12321105
going through TWO full recessions and your STILL making well over 6% on your money if your just willing to purchase monthly, thats basically worst case scenario with a guaranteed return like SPY

>> No.12321183
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12321183

so what are you guys buying with your profits? pic related going to buy a sex doll.

>> No.12321185

Thoughts on Starbucks? Earnings on 1/24.

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>>12318426
>AAPL is kill now
I dont even care that its going to bring the whole market down with it

this company deserved to die years ago, and seeing happen is too good for words

>> No.12321267

>>12321264
>>12321264
>>12321264

NEW

>>12321264
>>12321264
>>12321264

>> No.12321280

>>12321182
I believe that's 3% in real terms, which makes sense since the dividend reinvestment should be calculated in the same way.

I maintain that, given these time frames of 20 years, it's worth it to invest in bonds for several years during late cycle periods, even if you are off by several years, to escape downturns. I'll be running some simulations in R to establish exactly what the difference in returns would be.

>> No.12321292

lol triple thread

>> No.12321296

>>12320897
All that calculator shows me is I can say fuck reinvesting dividends and still get %1 growth above inflation.