/biz/ - Business & Finance

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>>12267795
16

16

>>12267795
I mean 25. Oops. Didnt see that multiplication symbol at the end.

GIVE YOUR ENERGY TO THE GOLDEN BULL

\O/

DIVIDENDS ARE ALSO YOUR FREN

25

>>12267785
The answer is the golden bull run

>>12267810
21

15

imagine shorting the bottom

>>12267785
bear kid = 10
bear head = 5
2 lemons = 2
1 lemon = 1
5+1x10 = 15 (PEMDAS)

>>12267785
25

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

wait i have autism it's 15

this be sum gay shit

>>12267795
>>12267808
>>12267802
>>12267806
>>12267810
wrong. there's only one of that yellow thingies in the last pic. there are countless variations of this shit.

>>12267829
shit, didn't notice the 2 lemons turned to 1.

15? Or wat

Well I've been in cash for 3 weeks, time to buy back in?

Is it time to short the VIX yet?

Remember folks, bear markets have violent upswings and downswing.

Not out of the woods yet.

They are throwing the kitchen sink at thing. So many record buy orders going into close. Someone is obviously trying to pump this market. When they stop, things will get ugly.

I could have had my puts for half price had I waited. I doubted their audacity. Who throws money on a fire to delay the inevitable?

Good to know I'm the first (and only) non-retard.

>>12267849
I'd say so
Maybe wait and see how Monday goes if you're still cautious

>$2k CTL short immobile
>$1 from getting assigned on my SPLK call spread expiring today

>>12267852
S&P 5000 within 2 years

>>12267852
Trump is doing the China method.

>>12267854
>>12267825
you're forgetting someone

Is TQQQ gonna keep going up /b/ros?

>>12267857
do you listen to this real loud when you're parents are gone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXkXyRWyPQ

>>12267852
>Who throws money on a fire to delay the inevitable?

Macro economic strategy is pretty much kick the can down the road and try to fix things before you get to the can again.

>>12267879
you've got 5 minutes to close it.

>>12267785
Order of operations

B+B+B=30
B+b+b=20
b+p+p=9
b+(p*B)=?

rref([ [3,0,0,30];
[1,2,0,20];
[0,1,2,9 ] ])

=
[[1,0,0,10];
[0,1,0,5 ];
[0,0,1,2 ] ]

b+(p*B) = 5+(2*10) = 25

>>12267907
there's only one lemon in the bottom picture
the lemon is the bottom image is p/2, not p

>>12267907
you fell for one of the oldest tricks on the internet.

>>12267852
bahaha ur bonkers!
GEt a load of htis guy!

can someone just cash out this friday already for fuck's sake. 1 more hr of this shit fucking hell

>>12267907
there's only 1 lemon on the bottom bud, so your last function should be 1/2p

>>12267926
>another "bull" market driven by unusually large orders
PPT needs to fuck off with their manipulation bullshit

>>12267885

It's weird how Buffalo Bill looks pretty normal in comparison to the kind of thing you'd see at the average gay parade these days.

>>12267879
Last hour is going to be another 2-3% gain. Pension funds rebalancing.

>>12267785
Order of operations

B+B+B=30
B+b+b=20
b+p+p=9
b+(p*B)=?

rref([ [3,0,0,30];
[1,2,0,20];
[0,1,2,9 ] ])

=
[[1,0,0,10];
[0,1,0,5 ];
[0,0,1,2 ] ]

b+((p/2)*B)=5+((2/2)*10) = 15

also S+M+G = ???

>>12267897
If this is a fake pump it should all collapse within the hour, a pension fund may or may not have hit again

>>12267940
Not sure why I linked that, but meh

Lets get a nice Clean Golden golden bullrun for power hour. Get your golden bull statues and green wojaks prepared

Way to derail the thread OP

>>12267940
>>12267956
Well, I don't disagree but manipulation or not, looks like it's working.

POWER HOUR IS UPON US

>We just hit the 38.2% retracement (at 251.25 on SPY)
>GOLD just hit a 6-month high 1,284.55

BRB turning $10k cash into GOLD

how's the market timing going bro

>>12267978
pretty well thanks

The PPT has now assumed the primary role as conspiracy catalyst. Please continue insinuating that a relatively small turnaround from a 3 month long freefall could not possibly have been natural.

>>12267993
let me tell you about wash trading

>>12267989
t. 4 figure account

>>12267961
And its a clean right hook to the Golden Bull Run's face!

Golden Bull Run is out cold!!!

>>12267785
you can do better than that

>>12267993
just buy the dip bro

lol are you serious

>>12267942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-uYfQieGuI

he's behind his times

>>12267969
s-sorry X_X
me forgot about the malice of humans

>tfw it was a bull trap
>tfw the last two days were an elaborate trick to suck in more bulls to dump on

>>12267785
15

T minus 13 mins till PTT / pensions swoop in to save the day. Maybe.

>>12268033
thats ok, more responses means bump limit reached sooner
which means a new OP sooner

>i-i-i-if the market isn't going up nonstop in a straight line, we must be in a bear market

Good thing that one anon got his mom to sell the very bottom

>>12268035

>>12268052
>>i-i-i-if the market isn't going down nonstop in a straight line, we must be in a bull market

>>12268005
5 I'll have you know

>>12268013
THE GOLDEN BULL RUN IS IN TROUBLE!!

she needs to move but the Bear's last punch has left her stunned!

Is learning Spanish a good use of time as an American?

>>12268043
ZH reporting a major order hit the nyse but it may be a headfake

>inb4 zerohedge

>>12268035
Worst investor sentiment ever recorded, worse than at the very bottom of 2008

All the retail rubes already dumped

>>12268052
>the market has been going down for 3 months but we're not in a bear market

>>12268066
that picture is like more than half of /biz/ in one picture... some kid and his shit coins

fugg we're ending red today aren't we

>>12268074
being bilingual is a good skill to add to your resume, especially if it's Spanish

>>12267795
>>12267802
>>12267806
>>12267808
>>12267810
>>12267823
>>12267829
And you guys pretend like you know markets and financials and shit while you can't even do basic math.

>>12268077
a bear market is defined as a decrease of 20% or more without a recovery for at least 2 months
the market has already started to recover

>>12268102
see >>12267846

>>12267993
>certain stocks which are either consumer staples or are tech/biotech that are backed by Govt, reached FDA approval, etc. are driving today's growth with big market orders
>other stocks are still in free fall, hence the jaggy ass lines and volatility today

Yep you're right. Totally natural. PPT is a myth and the Administration literally saying they were getting the team together a few days ago was just all of us having a mass hallucination.

WHY DO YOU KIDS CARE IF WE ARE BEAR MARKET

JUST AVERAGE YOUR COST DOWN, THESE ARE CHEAP AF QQQ AND SPY RIGHT NOW

buy and hold until your 10 years from retirement kids

this fucking market man what the fuck is going on

>>12268013
you dare challenge the bull
watch this

>>12267970
>Powell trying to shrink Fed balance sheet and slowly ease the pain from an asset bubble
>PPT reinflating the bubble by dumping bonds and buying stocks, confusing markets

In the short-short-term, yes it appears to be working. But in the long-run it's a recipe for disaster. And if it's not the PPT, it's some state pension that's gonna go bankrupt once the market corrects and we're in bear territory

>>12268090
spanish is a disgusting language and so is everyone who speaks it

>>12268102
i honestly didn't even try.. i was just throwing out numbers...

>>12268113
but onlee da short turm matturz

1 year is too long of a timeframe for them to comprehend, let alone 10

>>12268124
what if you learn it to shout insults at the Spanish?

>>12268113
Because humans are monkeys. Logically a bear market means BUY BUY BUY and HOLD HOLD HOLD since chances are it's going to go back back up but humans are emotional creatures and when they see their stock go down they freak out

>>12268112
>Getting a team together means they pumped the market
>Definitely wasn't to reassure people that liquidity wasn't the issue

Move to the bilderbergs next.

>>12268113
>>12268126
>>12268154
Why do nu-boomers not understand that some people don't give a fuck about retirement?
I'll be a millionaire by wagecucking alone when I reach 70. It's almost a mathematical certainty.
I'm trying to snowball my way into wealth so I don't have to wagecuck all my life.

>>12268154
but it ALWAYS GOES UP

and lets say the permabears are right and we stay down, well in that case the economy will collapse and it doesnt matter if you lost all your USD in the markets, nobody else has any USD or will take it for goods or services ANYWAYS

investing is the only logical decision to ever make

Now this is pod racing

back to smug bear posting it is

>>12268140
borderline acceptable

>>12268109
>>12268125
It's okay, at least you're right about based divvies, and LCI is still going green, so after all, it's good.

>>12268074
just wait a few years for the babel fish to be created

>>12268102
can you?

The Big Succ

>>12268188
>posting bears on the dow jones being flat

>>12268168
it's so that someday you'll be able to buy a Corvette you won't be able to enter

>>12268168
best way to snowball your way into wealth is investment, retirement or not. what are you on about

>>12268167
>there are no instances of governments trying to manipulate the market for political ends
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday
oh

NO STOP DUMPING

The only thing I regret is not being able to buy more divvy stocks at the bottom

>>12268216
>wasting your money on useless shit like expensive cars

>>12268198
strawberry = 1 and thats all i can deduce from this

>>12268221
AHHH NO PLEASE

>>12268219
>Conspiracies happen
>Therefore this conspiracy happened

>>12267993
>t PPT

Based pension baggies fueling the next phase lower

>>12268117
>Now watch th-----

crazy vol my man

>>12267785
we can deduce that 1 beargirl is 10 by dividing 30/3
we can deduce that 1 bearhead is 5 by (20-10)/2
we can deduce that 2duck is 2 by (9-5)/2
but we cant deduce that 1duck is 1 by assuming that half of 2duck is 1, maybe 1duck is so rare that it is valued 1000

>>12268205

how mad must the pumpers be right now? how much money have they lost?

Support is now resistance. Lube your butt holes bulls.

>>12268232
strawberry = 1
orange = 5
pear = 239
grape = infinity

i learned how to get lemon at one point in my first intro calc class, but I forgot because I'm a Neuro major and don't really need calc for anything

NOOOOOOOOOO I NEEDED THIS MONEY FOR MY NEW YEARS PARTY

>>12268056 kek that not even take 30 mins >>12268221

This is the Feds fault. They need to stop wilin out. It’s scaring away the boomers.

>>12268239
>calling an occurrence a conspiracy to discredit it
weak sophistry fampai

>>12268285
AAAAAAAAAA NOOOOOO ;_;

>>12268210
>>12268218
I've started trading with chump change 3 months ago and I'm up about 50% (mainly by shorting AMD and AMZN and a bit by longing dude weed).
Admittedly it's a short time frame and it was definitely mostly luck but as I said I don't give a fuck about retirement.
I'm not a retarded permabear, though. I do intend to go long once I think the bottom is in and I do add another thousand bucks every month. At least that's the plan.

>>12268298
a conspiracy means that people conspire to accomplish something

>>12268298
>If it's going down it's natural
>If it goes back up it's the PPT

Where is the PPT right now? Asleep?

P-P-PPT-sama!!! Help!!!

Short
P
Y

Long
C
I

>>12268198
lemon and eggplant are both irrational u dick

>>12268324
The PPT has forsaken us for our wickedness and unbelief
Doubles say they come back

>>12268355
:O

>>12268355
thank you based comfy

>these desperate bears and emotional bitch longs

closing .1% in the red means nothing, retards

>>12268304
based

>>12268350
that doesnt mean it's unsolvable

e^(i*pi)+1=0

>>12268355
Yes

>>12268198
The definition of watermelon and cherry is false.

>>12268324
>spx magicaly can't get back bellow 2480
>where is PPT
watching, waiting

>buying the deadcat bounce

>>12268363
>1-day look-back
The only retard here is you

>>12268363
hey bro
https://streamable.com/p4xjo

HOW THE FUCK DO ANYONE NOT LOSE MONEY TRADING THIS RIDICULOUSLY VOLATILE MARKET

>>12268395
closing your positions when they're profitable.

>>12268395
The PPT is here bro. You should have had calls when you heard. We all did. It was so obvious.

There must be quite the brown log in there today tho.

>>12268403
Or park your shit in short term bonds and live a more productive life

God damnit, I’m off Robinhood for good. Scamming swindler like bastards. I had put options for JNJ expiring today. Robinhood sold them automatically without my order at the absolute lowest price, and the price went up 15% within 15 minutes after.

Complete bullshit. Imagine how much profit they made off that fraudulent order flow. Unbelievable.

>>12268395
when you see any one side on /biz/ getting cocky and complacent bet against it.

>>12268393
i dont even blame that individual, society has pushed him to feel this way. this behavior and mental illness has been encouraged.

>>12268413
I THOUGHT WE LIVED IN A FREE MARKET CAPITALISM
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>12268423
I think working in front of a computer 4hrs per day kicks ass. I do whatever the fuck I want and occasionally make $2k in a day while wagies grind.

>>12268395
>lose money
its only a loss if you sell

protip: don't sell at the bottom

>>12268324
We're approaching the end of a working day,and they are also likely given a set amount of money to work with. If selling outpaces PPT purchases, we go down violently at the end of the day since the PPT big orders all come in at periodic intervals.

>dat last minute rally at MNGA
that anon was right...wtf

>>12268428
they probably sold because you dont have enough money to have the shares "put" to you at the strike price. either get more money or dont hold to expiration without a proper margin account.

is it possible to sell a covered call option itself and not need to sell the underlying stock? I need to learn how to do this before the next bull run and just sell covered calls of KO every week for some extra money

>>12268466
What a kike response. Of course they should automatically sell off your shit at the lowest price anon, it’s your own fault too! Fuckers.

>>12268428
You realize you can close your position when it's profitable ye? If that wasn't possible for you due to Theta, maybe don't be a fag next time and buy weeklies

PPT went bankrupt?

It's 60 assholes wtf is wrong with you all

>>12268481
sounds like someone doesn't understand what puts and calls actually are. you want them to hold to 4pm for you? oh markets closed. it's a contract you dumb shit. perhaps you should understand the contract before you use them.

2480 magically broke.

>>12268445
I made $500 yesterday but could’ve made a lot more if I had set my sell stop a bit lower. Fuck this gay shit it’s annoying. Grinding is less frustrating.

>>12267785
People finally stopped freaking out about TLRY and its back baby - next stop 100 by Friday!

>>12268482
I can’t close my position when RH closes it for me in advance at the least profit possible now can I?

>>12268324
bearing the weight of countless bags

>>12268503
Yes I want them to hold to 4pm for me, because at any time up until close I can buy the stock to sell for the intrinsic or sell the option. They deprived me of both available courses of action.

>>12268472
of course, as long as you "buy to cover" the call prior to expiration if it's in the money. otherwise let it expire worthless (i.e., you made money on it)

>>12268291
Hey Faggots,

My name is Jerome, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are poor, retarded, degenerates who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass charts. You are everything bad in the the economy. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any profits? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of their gambling addictions on weekly options and chinese scam stocks, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than buying BGFV at $9.50.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shorts. I'm pretty much perfect. I am Chair of the Federal Reserve of the United States, and hand picked by President Trump. What investments do you make, other than "buying the LCI dip because of muh share structure and epic short squeeze"? I also get mad gains, and have a banging hot interest rate (I just did some rape hikes; Shit was SO crash). You are all faggots who should just liquidate your portfolios and apply for a job at McDonald's. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It's me and my FED Funds Rate.

LCI saving my day.

>>12268508
if you want to wait to do boss's bidding, you have no one stopping you.
Just don't work at a <$1b prop firm, if it's not your account, it can be gone overnight.

>>12268511
You don't seem to understand how to trade options, good luck.

WHO HERE /NIBBLIN/?

>>12268568
already nibbled at lower prices, waiting for new lows to put more money to work. otherwise i'll just wait.

>>12268547
The fuck don’t I understand? What about options trading implies that a broker noted for royally skimming off order flow should arbitrarily sell my options at the worst point right before a large increase in value? Tell me what I am missing.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>12268603
They explicitly state on their site... they close your position 1hr prior to market close on expiration day. You have no one to blame but yourself. Also usually 3rd Fri expiry options exercise sat on other broker. Just a heads up for your noob ass

>>12268610
Today was a bear trap.

CLOSING BELL THEME

https://youtu.be/jkPoCZJ__LY

How based am I, smg?

>>12268632
3/10

>>12268632
bretty based, your pepe needs a stick to hit bitches with too

>>12268632
Based, redpilled, and gay af.

>casual totally natural last minute pump
nice try PPT

>>12268622
Fuck I got trapped ..bought SPY at the last minute

DING DING DING DING DING DING

Splendiferous day for trading the dude weed. Lots of overextensions I could safely take profit on. +6% for portfolio today and bolstered my cash position back up to a nice comfy 40% for taking advantage of continued volatility.

Feels real good.

>>12268622
>>12268675
It's called a bull trap.

>>12268686
>>12268622
it's a trap trap
SPY 260 by next Friday

>>12267785
it's 15 you fucking chimps

>>12268685
rec me some weed memes to look at

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do this week? I’m up .03% today. We’re going to a Romano’s in Lemay Township, wherever that is

>>12268723
Green day over here

>>12268723
not trade today ;_;
volatility scaring me desu

>>12268723
Up 7.3% this week
Profitable on VTGN and WTR again, will hopefully break back into 1k again soon

today was meh

when the bull run continues in the end of 2020, i'll be set for big gains

>>12268723
I waited for this post so I could share my hilarious and rigged CTL short... Better be 5% gains on Monday. peace

>>12268198
>>12268232
>>12268277
>>12268350
>>12268371
Watermelon/Cherry = (e+pi)
(assuming cot^-1 is using radians)

Watermelon = (e+pi)*Cherry
Cherry = Watermelon/(e+pi)

since e + pi is irrational, and if Cherry and Watermelon must be integers, then

Cherry=0
and
Watermelon=0


dropping the integer requirement would make them simple expression though

>>12268698
>assuming one yellow pig = (1/2)*(2 yellow pigs)
ISHYGDDT

>>12268723
up $600 thanks to VXUS

>>12268745
Do not hurt Bowsette!

>>12268766
;)

>>12268776
Bowsette is n-not that muscular!
And girl Mario is also hot

>>12268723
Up .79% thanks to based Disney saving me from SPYD and JPM

>>12268343
Nah. This period is like the 2000s crash. There's a few years of sideways market ahead.

>>12268824
>>12268810
>>12268776
>>12268766
>>12268632
welp.. looks like the thread is going to shit for the day.. happy weekend yall

I'm dead. Gonna hold F a little longer but as soon as dividends are cut it's over.

I got my first DRIP partial shares on SPYD today and feels so fucking good

>>12268700
>rec me some weed memes to look at

K. I remain most bullish on US based companies. Most of these trade on the Canadian CSE and OTC in the US due to federal legal issues on account of the dude weed being state legal/fed illegal.

Curaleaf, Cresco Labs, Trulieve, Green Thumb Industries, Acreage Holdings (I'm iffy on these guys but they're pretty big and have a lot of licenses), iAnthus/MPX Bioceuticals. One other with a shitty chart but could be good at some point in 2019: Charlotte's Web

I made the best gains on Tetra BioPharma today. It's a conventional biopharm meme focusing on weed based conventional pharmaceutical sales route (clinical trials, Health Canada/FDA approval, DIN get).

>>12268350
lemon is 1

is tehre any sort of calculator out there for back testing how DRIP would have worked out? i want to know how many shares of for instance MSFT or KO I would have if i had bought 10/50/100 when I was born

>>12268856
thanks friend

>>12268878
it’s called a financial calculator, you can google one and use the inputs on whatever website

>>12268868
oh shit nevermind it's not

>>12268878
Microsoft excel and basic math skills

>>12268896
rate of return is everywhere, but i mean more i would like to know exactly how many shares and partial shares i would end up with after splits

its not really necessary information, i am just curious what 100 shares of something over 2 decades turns into after splits and constant DRIP

i just sold off loser EM funds and went heavy into ICLN in my 401k. am i a retard?

>>12268906
Yes just buy the SPY not novelty bullshit

>>12268632
p based

>>12268905
solve for interest and divide by fv (the current price of the stock)

>>12268885

You betcha. I forgot about Harvest Health. CSE ticker is HARV. It will probably retrace down on Monday. Spinning top today off a gap up.

>>12268906
Its not bull. You want big, large gains. I like SP500 because it gives THICK gains. Big bull. Golden Bull. Oil, Emerging, weak and limp. No bull

>>12268920
Based and frogpilled!

Who is, in your opinion, the worst trip?

>>12268723
>Got out of AMZN past week or so at $1490
>Fealt FOMO all day from it's chart
>Didn't buy back in, feel satisfied watching it fall in afternoon

To be honest it follows indexes too much, $100 swings on it are not that huge % wise
Better to use the money buying smaller stocks/ETF's , so I have more liquidity to trade with

>Sitting on $1700 cash
So real % gains is closer to +0.65% gain from stocks today, so not bad

Happy I didn't FOMO sell my short hedges today

>>12269026
everyone apart from me

>>12269029
> more liquidty
>$1700 cash

lmao, i hope you meant at least $17,000

>>12269026
pendulum by far

RKG egregore was getting bad though

>>12269029
sounds like a case of weak hands, Its never wise to expect fridays to be green since people cashing out for the weekend.

>>12269035
I turned 1k into 10k in less than a month trading penny stocks
It's difficult but possible.

>>12269026
Gay anime poster is worst overall by far

Communist has his head stuck furthest up his own ass though

Baggy is GOAT, LCIguy is close second
Comfy is best for shit poster though

>>12269035
Check the screenshot, I clearly did not
But here's your (you), free of charge

Yay! My pension monies from a former wageslavery gig came through in to my locked retirement account today. I can't contribute money to it or withdraw any until I hit the age limit but I can trade inside it. Looking to put together some kind of boomer dividend and ETF type portfolio on it. Not at all my wheelhouse as far as the stock market goes so I will have to do some research first.

>>12269079
apple and knife are constants so change would be 0

>>12269050
RKG is still here all the time, she just can't namefag because she gets banned on sight

>>12269070
Obviously it's weak hands, but idk how to fix, especially with so much free time in the day

>>12269071
Proofs? (Also how Mr hacker-man?)
Durring school times I don't have time to check market durring the day

>>12269112
>he goes to school
YIKES
you've already lost the game..

>>12269026
Pendulum

>>12269026
RKG was the best, I miss her.

15 or 60

>>12269158
But Anon she's still here! Look at this poster
>>12268033
>>12268073
>>12268259
>>12268285
>>12268745
It's RKG

>>12269106

obviously, i think she has been OP 9/10 threads this week

but the lack of namefagging is a refreshing change of pace compared to the cult of white (sheep) that (she) used to collect (to ruin the posting quality of the entire general)

you can't deny that posting quality has improved dramatically since she stopped namefagging


>> she just can't namefag because she gets banned on sight
Good

>>12269179
dill is vastly more powerful than tommy could ever hope to be

>>12269106
why?

>>12269133
That's where you're wrong kiddo
>My total overall debt is $0.00

>>12269079
I have never met a commie that wasn't stuck up their own ass though. I mean communism is literally a religion based off of post-economic theory so of course he is, but whatever. I just wish there were communists who could at least separate and be against the gay SJW crap while still being commies but that group is as small and insignificant as right-wingers so we're in for a good 40 years of trannies reappropriating our property with the help of the US ZOG.

PREP THE BEAR

>>12269071
Damn dude ur taxes gonna be a bitch if u cant sustain it.

>>12269221
because her name derails threads, then derails future threads too

when 120/300 posts in a thread are larping blogposts and replies to the blogposts, is it really a stock market general anymore?

>HCLP 50% up after hours
Hmmmmm

>>12269079
Pendulum's not so bad, I'd rather be surprised with clicking on an image to find hot guys rather than dismembered limbs.

But I agree, comfy has the best post quality.

I may be a bit arrogant sometimes but only time will tell if its warranted or not.

>>12269050
What happened to the tarot posts you used to make, I enjoyed those

>>12269237
What do you mean post economic theory? I'm working off stuff that's closer to classical econ than anything else

>>12267785
70

>>12269321
wat

>>12269237
his discussions arnt always bad, and he tends to try to backup his arguments with logic (sometimes)

but his tendency to turn every conversation into a lecture of why Marx is g*d is annoying at best
especially when a flaw in his logic is spotted, so he just moves the goalposts instead of moving on to a new conversation

and his massive blindspot for a couple fundamental flaws

>>12269326
thats sundown not me
he is currently driving to meet comfy so that they can lose their virginities to eachother, unless saltlake city meetup was Dec 21st instead of today

>>12269371
Guess its a bug in my stupid app. Google doesnt show it.

>>12269341
Sorry, I meant to say post-Industrial economic theory.

>>12269378
oh, ok
i remember sundown posting that image with the same filename, so I thought you were him

what stonks are you holding at the moment

>>12269414
check the archives, i post positions a few times a week

(im like 40% cash, 40% stable dividends at the moment)

If you are buying individual REIT for high yields, consider the following ETFs
ETFs with similar yields to risky, small cap REIT are just a no brainer. They spread out risk and offer a more consistent source of income. Examples: (Data from TDA)
MORT: 8.13% yield
REM: +9% yield
KBWY: 8.62% yield
IVR:: 11.59%
Other examples of sustainable larger REITs with little to no debt and actually have a sustainable EPS to DPS are
NLY: 11.8%
MFA: 11.9%
I'm sick of Seeking Alpha articles by (((pros))) recommending microcap REITs with shit financials and mediocre yields to me. When you're company is triple leveraged with debt and you're still paying a dividend that's twice the amount you make per share, how is that a safe bet??
The article that triggered this melt down is:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradthomas/2018/12/28/the-10-best-sleep-well-at-night-reits-to-own-in-2019/amp/
These are not actually """safe REITs""", in fact the most basic of FA would indicate they are trash.
The author barely puts any effort into this, then shills his PPV blog where he puts out similar garbage
This is unaccebtable, and all these (((experts))) need to hang

>>12269434
This post has so many spelling and grammatical errors but I'm typing at 200 wpm so I don't care
How do these faggots sleep at night recommending this shit? Billing high risk garbage REITs to boomers and clueless zoomers to shill your own blog, then getting published in a quasi-respectable publication is insane
Seriously, run the listed REITs through finviz and the stats on them are abysmal
WHO PUT THESE PEOPLE IN CHARGE, DO THEY EVEN HAVE AN EDITOR

>>12269378
I can take him seriously until he tries to take on any social issue, usually backed up by some sort of quack social scientist. Again it goes back to "you might be able to convince me of your economic theory, but your social policy repulses me."

what does small spec mean

>>12269434
D-did comfy just make a well composed and on topic post? I think I need to lie down.

>>12269479
>How do these faggots sleep at night recommending this shit?

nobody is obliged to be recommended anything
when someone buys a stock solely because someone else told them to without doing any research of their own, they're the ones responsible for their own lack of knowledge
nobody is responsible for another person's financial decisions
they aren't being forced to buy those stocks, they voluntarily chose to
to imply that it's the article writers' fault for recommending bad stocks is to imply the readers have no agency

>>12269178
poor RKG ;_;
miss her

>>12269502
speculators with small (under 7 inch) penises

>>12269502

>>12269431
this has rapidly come to be one of my favorite memes

Remember when there used to be jobs for college graduates that weren't fast food?

>>12269431
based

>>12269479
>How do these faggots sleep at night recommending this shit?
cozily in a bed worth more than your house


>>12269491
yea basically, his posts vary from good and thought provoking, to circular "logic" and pseudoscience terrible at the drop of a hat

his refusal to change topics, and to instead double down when errors are pointed out, are his main faults

still a better quality poster than most people here are half the time

>>12269508
I can produce quality on topic content when I'm triggered against people who claim to be experts while in reality have less knowledge of the market than the average /smg/ poster
These psueds tend to congregate around the morgage and real estate sector of the market for some reason. Check that category of SA, and it's just terrible.
>>12269517
Fuck off you dumb cunt
>to imply that it's the article writers' fault for recommending bad stocks is to imply the readers have no agency
Are you saying that the author has the ability to be completely have zero intellectual honesty, and it's the readers fault for believing him?
When a normal person reads a publication like Barrons, they believe the author has SOME credibility to be writing their. Publications like that lend ethos to the writers argument
All investors should read /smg/s OP obviously and not buy random shit, but believing that it is the readers fault for the author producing bad content on a quasi-respected main stream news article is foolish
>nobody is responsible for another person's financial decisions
No fucking duh you retard, I do not sympathize for small specs who follow these false prophets, rather I dispise mainstream economic sources who publish terrible content like this
>they aren't being forced to buy those stocks, they voluntarily chose to
Did you read any of my post, or do you just have the reading comprehension of a 5 year old?
My gripe is with the quality of the content produced in the REIT and mortgage industry, not with individual investors
You don't have to be a contrarian on everything, this is why you are the worst tripfag on this general. Defending the honor of bad authors who produce bad and intellectually stunted content is retarded. Never reply to me again.

>>12269613
My only fault in posting is my propensity to panic in accordance to the markets.

>>12269378
I think Marx certainly has some problems, but I don't think one of them is that he wasn't anarchist enough.

Rather, he was too hegelian, idealist and humanist. This was where he started out philosophically and he gradually shed these frameworks as he continued, but he never was truly able to escape them. To me, the most valuable parts of marx are the empirical and historical analysis.

If you want to know which theorist I actually idolize it'd probably be Althusser, his Philosophy of the Encounter is probably the only book on theory I actually agree with 100%.

>>12269491
If you're referring to bringing up Zizek and Lacan's talk about sexuality, that's more of an analytical position than a political one. I really don't care about social issues for the most part.

>>12269625
>but believing that it is the readers fault for the author producing bad content on a quasi-respected main stream news article

it's not the reader's fault the content is produced, what I'm saying is that making a decision based solely on the fact that it's a "quasi-respected mainstream news article" make the reader responsible for any losses they may incur

> I do not sympathize for small specs who follow these false prophets
then why do you care what these sources publish

>>12269625
>19 years old
>Professional in the morgage and real estate sector

>>12269651
You truly are the most idiotic poster on this general, I am happy you wear a trip. Your trip is like a gold star in Nazi germany, declaring you an idiot instead of a Jew.
It is apparent you are a 19 year old freshman in college, failing all of your classes that require even the smallest shred of critical thinking, rather you cling to autistic classes that require only memorization.
Listen to me, how many times must I shout this in your brainlet face?
My gripe is with poor quality content being regularly published by "respected" publications like Barrons. That's the entire point of my post.
Now fuck off
>>12269656
I never said I was a professional, far from it. In fact I'm a total brainlet. But if basic research, even just looking at a stock screener sends up red flags about what the author is shilling, should that author be published in the first place?
Thank you for your quality reply attacking me instead of addressing any of the arguments of my post
You often whine about how there is not enough on topic posts ITT, and I'm trying to post about REITs. Do you disagree or agree with the thesis of my post, or are you just going to shitpost about it?

>>12269707
I think that all the analysts spent too much time going to school and not enough time in actual business or trading stocks and are just as retarded as you.

>>12269749
Thank you for your quality analysis of the article listed.
Now be a good boy and shout about your LCI bags

>>12269707
I view stock market advice as like reading the fine print. To make all the best moves, you'd have to do a ton of research every day on companies and never make a wrong interpretation. That's too much for most people. So the stock advisors come in and get paid to "read the fine print" for the users, not to actually make good decisions.

>>12269639
Maoism is the best communism, if you split disregard the "revolutionary"/civil war aspects of his teachings

at the end of the day though no communism will work when nation states exist


>tell rich you are going to "sieze" their wealth, and distribute it to the more deserving
>promise the poor ( and to a lesser extent, those that are "deserving" of wealth) that they will be better off after this revolt happens
>rich fuck off to another country with their wealth
>poor are mad you havnt fulfilled your promises

and bam, you have cascading revolutionary governments and turmoil

the only way to have true social upheaval that is benefitial is to first have the whole planet united under one government

and even then, you need unbreakable checks against corruption, or else human nature will tear apart every benefit you ever had

its basic Game Theory, day one shit (look up Hawk and Dove grid)

hi guys could we all just curtail our autism for a hot second, thanks

what's your honest opinion about the quantum immortality?

>>12269784
irrelevant to ponder, since impossible to prove/disprove until you are already dead

also its a weak plato's cave allegory

>>12269775
where do you think you are?

The GOOS is making its way to the top of my watchlist. Looking at this one real hard for signs of reversal. It'll be a very nice swing if the setup develops just right. Not in yet of course as it is still firmly in death dive channel. Only reason it got killed so bad during the market downturn is that it was trading at a pretty hefty P/E ratio. Earnings have been good the last several quarters running.

>>12269767
It's almost like it's a utopia that could only succeed in a perfect world

>>12269817
exactly

and we all know how perfect humans are :)

>>12269775
>hi guys could we all just curtail our autism for a hot second, thanks

I would turn it off if I could, chief. It'd be real handy to have a switch for that so I can look like a normie when it matters.

>>12269767
Communism can't exist because its central premise is wrong. It attempts to lift the stupidest and poorest elements of society to that of leaders, then wonders why everything went wrong. It attempts to save everyone (except the people actually capable of progressing society) when we actually need LESS people alive, not more. And worst of all, all modern interpretations of it condone faggotry and social degeneration, so while you're starving and poor you don't even get a high-trust, family-oriented society, you get trannies out on the streets prostituting themselves.

>>12269759
No problem

3 out of 3 aint bad

also.. i'm not going to read some fucking article about REITs since i'm not looking to invest in any REITs since i actually own properties irl.. Reading up on an investment that i have no interest in making right now wouldn't be the best use of my time. Simple economics would teach you that concept.. but i'm sure a 19 year old delivering pizza in the middle of potato fields with a $500 robinhood portfolio knows this... r-right?

>>12269775
>our

>>12269848
>write up a post about actual stocks
>LCI derails the thread with personal attacks
>gets every detail of my life wrong
Pottery

>>12269822
That image would be correct if it showed the government stealing the tall dude's box and giving it to the small dude.

>>12269822
the fun part is when all of them get kicked off the premises for thinking they can watch a free game

>>12269822
One of those conservatives would willingly, without a state issued gun to his head, lift the child on his shoulders.

>>12269833
ITS TRANQUILITY TIME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5wn87lAjHA

>>12269843
you mean doctors shouldnt get the same pay as ditch diggers or fast food cashiers?

you fascist!

>its a real blindspot that too many people like to ignore, on both sides of the political aisle

>>12269861
yes i didnt realize the partisan wording near the top until after i post it

a large part of the problem with it is that everyone has a different internal definition of what is "fair" or what is "right"

one man's justice is not the same as another's, no matter how many parts of their definitions overlap

>>12269876
all analogies break down if you give them enough thought

>>12269885
again, i instantly regret the partisan connotations that image implies

>>12269811
>>12269833
you've got to try
>>12269853
using the inclusive term "our" makes the request far more palatable and more likely to be followed than if I had said "you're" which creates a separation and makes the person you are asking more confrontational.

>>12269876
thats the least of their problems!
they are infront of second friggin base @_@

>>12269859
sounds familiar..................................................................

>>12269917
No problem, my dude.

>>12269918
tone it down, faggot

>>12269917
War happens because everyone has a different idea of utopia. The hippies of the 70s thought that everyone could get along and live in peace by smoking weed all day, then became militant neo-liberals when they realized not everyone shared the same dream. So now they're going to enforce peace and love and hope, whether you like it or not.

>>12269896
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5wn87lAjHA

>>12269950
bite ma banger ya fucking tuchter.

"moooo" thread

>>12269996
>>12269996
>>12269996

hehehehe

>>12269989
this is an english-speaking board

>>12269767
As I've mentioned before, what generally gets moved in capital flight is money capital. Physical capital is much harder to move. Communism is about the working class expropriating the capitalist class, but it's not really about taking their money, it's about taking their role as those who coordinate production. The rich have destroyed the means of production in the past in large wars, but the kind of war that entails is less likely in an age of nuclear weapons and the level of state control that entails.

I really don't think you've shown any of that requires a one world government or some kind of infallible government.

>>12269817
>>12269822
>>12269843
>>12269917
Communism isn't about some arbitrary leveling and destruction of pay differentials or hierarchy. It's about how we coordinate production, where the base of power lies in society. In the most primitive societies, the tribal chieftain, even though he is the strongest and most powerful member of their society, is usually the poorest. Hierarchy persists, but it exists to serve the mass of people. This, is of course primitive communism, and industrial society means that things will be quite different in the future.

As Lange pointed out good incentive structures within enterprises are the same in both communism and capitalism. What is important is not those incentives, but giving workers a say, running production according to the needs of those who are being produced, for, rather than the profit of private owners, as well as giving people more free time as production becomes more automated and efficient.

>>12269917
>>12269968
I should also mention, communism isn't about justice, it's about the iron necessity created by a falling rate of profit, ecological collapse and the irrationality of capitalist consolidation.

War, new societies and economic systems, these things aren't born from dreams of utopia, principles about fairness. These are the surface level, the ideology which covers the underlying material differences produced by state and class power. Hippies didn't cause war over their dreams, and neither did neoliberals. The wars of Bush, Reagan, Thatcher, Blair and the rest weren't done in the names of the neoliberal ideal, they were done out of the necessity of their respective empires and the interests of their respective capitalist classes.