/biz/ - Business & Finance

It kind of amazes me how the stock market can pump and dump so hard like this 20% drop we've seen this month.

I mean you gotta figure 90% of the money is boomers 401ks just auto deducting on every paycheck. It's not like crypto where there are degenerate gamblers sitting at their computer 24/7 daytrading all day.

Why /pol/ cucks still think this silver spoon dumbfuck is playing 88D backgammon is fucking beyond me.

>>12235067
why do people even invest in pension plans anymore? they are never going to get even a fraction of the money they put in back.

>>12235105
>why are people stupid?
:^)

>>12235105
If index funds are paying you back fractions of what you put in 50 years from now civilized society has probably collapsed and it wouldn't matter what you would have done with your money anyways.

>>12235038
basically bobo of the century

>>12235069
Because they are delusional anon.
They are unable to look in the mirror and ask “did I make a mistake?”
So they will forever cope with their mistakes by convincing themselves it’s just “too complicated for you to understand” or that “(((they))) just want to make trump look bad”.
The first step to improving yourself is to admit your mistakes. Trumplets just can’t let go and admit that trump is an idiot and markets are reacting negatively to his antics.

>>12235242

But see, here's the thing. I voted for Trump in the Republican primary because I thought "there's zero chance of this assclown winning and Ted Cruz might win my state, so I'll vote Trump to fuck up Ted Cruz's campaign". I can look in the mirror and say that was a terrible mistake and I didn't fully consider the consequences of a knob job like Trump picking up steam early on in the Republican primaries and that the party might fall in line behind him if he did. I'm partially responsible for what's happening right now, which is part of why I care so much.

These guys though.. they're all fucking in.

>>12235322
At least you can admit your mistake anon, learning is the most important part of life.

I didn’t vote for trump but I remember kind of being happy when he won. For some reason the anarchy excited me. I enjoyed watching the system take a dick and mainstream normies getting wrecked. A big part of me wanted to see that trump victory. Now I look back and feel like a fucking idiot. Clearly the system we had was actually beneficial to us. I didn’t realize it could be so much worse until it happened.

>>12235242
>>12235322
And this is the thought process of blue pilled NPCs

>never ending lefty incel brigades

Christ, you kids been doing this for a few days, ever get tired? Oddly /biz/ has been largely free of politics, but in comes the left wing retards spewing refuse.

>>12235322
>>12235242
I voted for trump as a human hand grenade thrown into washington. I never once expected him to do any of the things he said he would do. Maybe the wall but thats it. He has mostly been a disappointment. Still better than hillary though.

>>12235680
Because politics is currently having a massive impact on the economy. I’m a republican not a “lefty”. There’s no brigade here, when politics is having a massive impact on the topics discussed on /biz/ there will be politics discussed on biz

>>12235038
The Fed kicked it off this time, along with the uncertainty of the Mueller shit dragging. Couple that with housing bubble 2.0:The angst of the Boomer, the student loan bubble, QE that went on far too long, and the fact we are long overdue, and we're set up for a real shit show.

>>12235713
>I voted for trump as a human hand grenade thrown into washington.
Thing about this nihilistic "nothing really matters, just fuck washington up" bullshit is the people feeding tendies to your NEET ass actually lose things of value, such as their jobs, when the economy tanks

>better than hillary
The choice was between a dishonest but competent schemer and a dishonest and incompetent scammer
At least the former CAN do something right

>>12235798
>t. Shareblue shill
Yeah bruh 2scoops etc.

>>12235930
Hahaha oh man.

Hilary had no major accomplishments in her Senatorial career. Her tenure at State Dept was disastrous. That's a good indicator she's unqualified. On top of her being a raging alcoholic and ethically corrupt.

Plus something about having TS/SCI and SAP classified intelligence on a private server in her own home, on which someone from her staff had to manually transfer the data onto it. I know if I left the SCIF with any classified material, I'm going to have a bad time.

Yeah bro totes qualified. Please, kill yourself, your shilling lessens the IQ here.

classic breakout pump n dump. Gonna drop to 20k and then consolidate to 22.5k until 2020

>>12235038
Pump'n'dumping the entire US economy is a pretty reckless thing to do unless he has an escape strategy to get him and his money to China or Russia.

>>12235984
>"B-but her emails!"

>>12236060
Typical low IQ response that trivializes the losses of sources and methods. IC systems are designed to minimize inadvertent disclosures. Yet the IG found over 30+ cases of classified information, not just "emails" as you incels claim.

>>12235038
Thanks Donald !!!

>>12236093
>"B-but Hillary is unqualified!"
>Elects a moron and failed businessman
>"B-but she's morally bankrupt!"
>Elects a con man who has paid off women for sex, has ties to the mafia, is under investigation for colluding with Russia, and on and on
>"B-but her emails!"
>Kushner, Bannon, Preibus, Ivanka, Miller have all used private email servers for classified dealings

Try harder stupid

>>12235930
>competent schumer

KEK... he's a fucking slimeball jew you idiot.

>>12236150
Is this bait?

Using private email to conduct official business is allowed, pending agency permission and as long as it complies with record keeping laws. Kushner et al. have complied with record keeping laws, hence why it's a non issue legally. But that doesn't matter to you since you're just flat out lying at this point.

>conflagration of classified information and unclassified work
Brainlet


>Russian collusion
Embarrassing. The DNC paid for false intelligence from an MI6 official, written by Russian trolls and 4chan. Yet, muh Russia. Honestly, if Muller had any sort of information we know it would have been presented by now. That and people like Paul Manafort, Bannon, et al. would have been charged.

Also,
>brainlet thinks "collusion" is a crime
Lmao christ, you guys really grasp at straws.

>>12235038

>thinking a sitting president ever has anything to do with economy

Boom and bust cycles are inherent to capitalism. they don't go away. that's basic capitalist economics.

>>12236296
>tax cuts don't affect the economy

>>12236270
>W-wait a minute, somebody is calling me out on my talking points
>Maybe if I call it bait and shout "Brainlet" they'll believe me
>I-if I pretend like Ivanka's emails weren't classified maybe it'll be ok
>"M-Mueller hasn't finished his investigation yet so nothing is fishy. Those other guys locked up doesn't mean anything!"
>"W-wait collusion isn't illegal so having my guy win with the help of a foreign country is fine!"

>>12236296
>buying the "current presidents don't impact the economy" meme

The economy is the result of decisions made one hundred years ago and ones made yesterday. To say theres a set time limit of years to see the economic impact of a sitting president is absolute nonsense probably made up to make people feel like they have no control over their own lives.

>>12236329
How stupid are you?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/ivanka-trump-used-a-personal-email-account-to-send-hundreds-of-emails-about-government-business-last-year/2018/11/19/6515d1e0-e7a1-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html

Have you even read, much less comprehend the news?

>spokesman for Lowell, acknowledged that the president’s daughter occasionally used her private email before she was briefed on the rules, but he said none of her messages contained classified information.

Vs

>sent or received were “marked classified.” The FBI later determined that 110 emails contained classified information at the time they were sent or received.

Yeah, how my dick taste? Literally mental gymnastics at this point for you to keep making stuff up.

>collusion
>Collusion” is not a cognizable federal offense. Politicians seek dirt on other candidates—the dirtier the better. That is what “opposition research” is all about.
>Saikrishna Prakash is James Monroe distinguished professor of law at the University of Virginia.

>>12236428
>I-Ivanka said she didn't do anything wrong, why won't this guy believe her!
>I-I'll call him stupid, heh that'll show him!
>H-he's doing mental gymnastics, not me. I bet if I mention my dick that'll show him!
>"But but look the oppo research happens all the time. All candidates get help from Russia!"

>>12236377
>>12236325

the cycle happens regardless of governmental intervention. keynes shows ways to reduce the devastation caused by the busts- through governmental spending. But, never has this cycle not happened.

You can explain the boom/bust cycles with land speculation. So long as an economy allows for the leveraging of land as collateral for loans- we will get boom/bust cycles.

Would be nice if you faggots bothered to open an economics textbook.

>>12236484
This reads like someone that just took Econ and thinks it's anything but a soft science. The government can exacerbate a boom or a bust. In our case, it looks like Trump is going to cause a collapse where there should've just been a bust.

>>12235038
So you're saying tax breaks for the rich DO pump up the economy
>hmm interadesting. B-but I thought that didnt work, liberal zoomies?

>we have unironic Hillary hens on /biz/
the absolute state...

Buy Monero

https://youtu.be/FeNYjYA2lVg

>>12236652
>Unironically supports a reality TV star with multiple bankruptcies and shady dealings for president and continues to support him after two years of idiocy
the absolute state...

>gives corporations huge tax cut
>they use it for stock buybacks instead of raising wages

JUST

>>12236579
>So you're saying tax breaks for the rich DO pump up the economy
Only the stock market, and only temporarily.

>>12236677
kek, absolutely seething that you won't get to turn this country into South Africa until 2030 now.

>>12236695
Skip along back to icing your butthole after those midterms big boy

>>12236702
Don't worry, you'll get to ruin it eventually. Patience, comrade. La Revolucion has only been delayed temporarily.

>>12235069
This. No one likes to admit they’re fucking dumb

>>12236707
Oh Chief, head back to the kid's table and leave the politics to adults

>>12236739
Look, you can get back to unlimited migration, more wars, etc. in 2024. Calm yourself.

>>12236753
Nothing says revolution like electing a moron who can't implement his agenda with control of all three branches of government.

>>12235069
>>12235242
this. they feel like a holy knight fighting the forces of darkness and evil while they are like don quichot overreact to wind mills.

>>12236537

>soft science

the state of plebs.

>government

1. op mentions president- why are you talking about government in general now? 2. Your second sentence isn't disagreeing with what I've said. 3. Trump isn't responsible for the collapse- land speculation is and always will be in a capitalist economy (without public ownership of land).

>>12236922
>The reaction of someone whose entire degree has been called into question
The president is part of the government you dolt.

Go back

to Reddit

with your

Reddit spacing

>>12236864
Lol this...embarassing, Trumptards BTFO

>>12235833

>Fed kicked it off
>QE
>Meanwhile the Fed has been raising interest rates

What's it like in your world?

>>12236022
China is the new globalist hq

>>12236969

imagine having having eyes so unstrained by a lack of reading, that it's unbothersome to read single spacing.

>part whole fallacy

pack it up lads, we've been owned by someone who neither reads nor reasons.

you plebs are so amusing

>>12236270
Spotted the Trumpcuck

>trump pump and dumped
>not the 8 years of stimulus cheap money printing during obama years

Can someone tl;dr what the fuck is happening with you guys? And why is everyone talking about the total collapse of the American economy from less than a week?

Non-Merican here

>>12235038

>>12235038

why risk the dump when you can just pump it until ure done with being president?

>>12237573

The Treasury Secretary and the President accidentally incited a panic during an already volatile market, and now the President is firing the Treasury Secretary in the hopes of holding him up as a scapegoat. He's probably going to fire the Fed President too.

>>12236864
Wow, it’s almost as if Trump is not a neocon and came in to office with a completely different agenda than many of his Republican “””””””Allies””””””” in Congress.

I’m sure Trump is shedding many tears about losing the House to Democrats when the vast majority of congressmen that got replaced were the ones who didn’t ride with Trump anyway, while the Congressmen whom actually asked Trump to campaign for them kept their seats.

>>12235069
Implying pol thinks that. Only alt-light idiots do, and they have given up already. Pol, which is mostly white nationalists, find little to agree or praise Trump on.
Dumb fucking kike.

>>12237620
How did they both incited panic exactly? I am sure it was anything but a mistake right? Is there a reason behind it?

>>12236707
Lmao fucking rekt. This.
Enjoy your Mexican and nigger neighbors. Hate has no home here!

>>12237653
Like most situations, it was probably started by machine learning hedgefunds. One exit scams. Then another, then another. The the ones without machine learning do, and then boomers are stuck holding bags.

>boomers fomo in
>wait until its holiday season and boomers are busy at home
>start the dumpening

why are you guys complaining? this is bullish for millennials fuck boomers

>>12237653

The President is publicly attacking the Federal Reserve because its chairman won't kowtow to him politically and the chairman is doing his duties instead of following the President's political agenda. The President is suggesting that in the near future he will arrange for the Federal Reserve to be headed by political lackeys who are not independent.

If you know anything about the banking system you know that this is very, very bad. Mnuchin made it worse by coming out and talking about irrelevant shit to reassure the market. Like, man, why are you telling me we have enough reserves? Nobody was questioning that until you started assuring us about it.

>>12236473
You can only go so far with mocking until you start to look like an idiot.
Write a coherent sentence or stop shitting up this thread.

>>12237686
Holy fuck get a load of this ice cold and Jewish take. Next you are going to start talking to me about Russian bots and threats to democracy and probably fag rights.

The kind of caved in wojack you must be to think unelected people can do whatever the fuck they want is mind boggling.

Jews are raiding biz heavy tonight.

>>12237736

What's sad to me is that I can't always tell the difference between people trolling and people who say this without trace of irony because both exist.

>>12236296
wall street deregulations didn't help

Ok so how do you think we would be right now if Hillary were in office?

>>12237806

The economy would still be stalling but there wouldn't be flashes of panic causing downswings either because of or exacerbated by a lack of confidence in key executive branch actors.

>>12236473

>>12235930
>wanting a first female president
>wanting it to be Hillary
Surrender your testicles please sir

>>12235105

pension plans? what are you talking about?

>>12238413

I've heard this thrown about. He kind of means 401k but not really.

Hi Shareblue!

>>12237643
do you have a single fact to back that up? did we purge the neocons?

>>12235713

I'm not disappointed at all - there was nearly 0 chance of the wall etc actually being built...yet. But the Norks at the bargaining table? Withdrawals from the Middle East? Motherfucking Space Force? Exceeded my expectations actually. And the Overton window? Successfully moved to the Right. Populist movements across the globe, normies discussing Israeli money in politics & the evils of global corporate culture, & even more and more normies saying "Fuck Islam". This is just a straight up astroturfing-black pill thread by butthurt leftcucks that wish to suck daddy Soros semen a little harder. Cope harder faggots, you've seen nothing yet.

>>12238766

He doesn't have a magic wand. The real purge is once a sufficient percentage of normies (on both Left and Right, because the Left continuing to advocate pro-corporate globalisation is just incredible doublethink) have witnessed the (((Deep State))) dragged into the light, with it's agenda to make "Brave New World" a reality laid bare. Then we can have DOTR and the neocons will get what they deserve. No more wars for Israel (and the other rulers), no more neo-colonialism, no more corporate plutocracy masquerading as freedom.

>>12235493
Trump is an asshole and is making America look like a clown but I still absolutely LOVE seeing lefties losing their fucking minds on a daily basis over every single thing this guy does. Seeing these seething pussies cry their eyes out almost makes it all worth it.

>>12236428
Trump is a treasonous fuck and so are you. Traitor dogs like you will be summarily executed when Mueller hands his findings down.

Look at all these leftypol faggots on here
as if no one can see through this shit

>>12235984
Donald Trump's grandfather rans whore houses. His father was a slumlord who sold little Donny's tender pink ass to Roy Cohen. Trump is a conman who never earned a single thing in his worthless life. Has filed for bankruptcy protection six times. Steals money from charities. Wants to fuck his own daughter. Sucks up to Israel when not tonguing Vladimir Putin's asshole. And despite being leader of the free world, he has plenty of time to use Twitter to spew drivel. He's a loser and no matter how much money/fame/power he has, he'll never be loved or respected which are the things he craves most of all.

Meanwhile his supporters are cockroaches whose hivemind runs on fear, hate and stupidity and worship a cartoon frog while supporting a fake President because they're fake Americans who have no convictions and will say/do anything to justify their position at any given moment. This is why they spent DECADES railing against Russia but are now perfectly happy that their idol is in the pockets of a fascist dicator who MURDERS critics, dissenters and political opponents. This is one of the reasons why Trump sucks up to Putin, because he admires that sort of power, the other is that his credit rating is soo terrible that he's been recieving money from Russia and China for decades. Of course he could prove me wrong by releasing his tax records but that will never happen because it would prove his treasonous activity against the United States of America and reveal that his supporters are enemies of the USA and everything it stands for!!!

He's a silver spoon fed trust fund sniveling coward. Only people who voted for him are retards who remember the 1980's being the last good era of the USA, not realizing that it's people like Trump who sold the country out with NAFTA and Free Trade which is why their jobs got shipped to slave labor countries. Proof that Republicans/Conservatives are complete and utter fucking cretins with subhuman I.Q.'s!!!FACT!!!

>>12235038
https://explorer.dcrdata.org/tx/9098c8f219d49ccf7ea592b422385ae85c1844bc23f4faad27ab4cfbc3496dc7

imagine this reality
>boomers not saving for retirement, have to spend longer time in the workforce
>boomers who were smart enough to plan for retirement now out of a lot of money, need to stay in the workforce for longer
GG to us young people expecting jobs.

>>12238838

Yep. Getting desperate aren't they? Shows how hypocritical they are too - would rather fight to defend the (((capitalist class))) they claim to oppose than get a nice "enemy of my enemy" think happening and help take them down. Getting the mainstream Left redpilled is critical at some point, so I'd have no issues if /leftypol/ wanted to mobilise their side. We could happily murder each other over communism vs nationalism AFTER the parasites trying to turn the planet into a giant favela ruled by Mickey Mouse, Bankers & big Oil are at the end of ropes. But nooooooo, they would rather defend globalists and guarantee the eternal slavery of the poor they claim to defend. Fuckwads.

>>12235067
Trump fight with fed and possible jail for clintons is cause.

>>12238876
anon trump might be everything you've said and more, but unironically he was the better candidate over hillary clinton.

>>12238876
>t. Vote for the Democract party goyim! We'll make everything better!

How do you reconcile being the party of "We love brown people & hate colonialism" with "We want endless war & the ability to use brown people as eternal slave labor" as your actual policy? Disgusting. And nobody gives a shit about "Republicans", 95% of the party are no different to the Democrats, same bosses & master pulling the strings - they're a means to an end only.

>>12238822
If I say this going on three years straight, even though it has been said time and time again there was no collusion between Trump and Russia as well as collusion is not federal crime, maybe I can convince others!

>>12236296
I'm sure imposing tariffs on everyone (even allies) had nothing to do with him or the US economy. I'm sure tax cuts to billionaires has nothing to do with him or the US economy. I'm sure his priorities (retarded resource-wasting wall) and his representation as the leader of the United States has nothing to do with him or the US economy.

/pol/ coping is truly hilarious to watch; almost as entertaining as seeing liberals get assblasted. Can't you just admit that Trump is not a good president and is bad for the US?

>>12236695
What does that even mean?

>>12239222
Zoom out.

>>12239306
Resource wasting Wall? Illegal immigration costs America magnitudes higher every year than building a wall would cost.

>>12239306
>>12239306
>pretending you aren't a liberal
You're very bad at disguising yourself. The wall is a negligible portion of government spending, and his tax cuts were helpful to the middle class and actually screwed over rich people living in blue states.
I hate trump for NOT building the wall and turning into a fucking cuck.

>>12239368
Imposing a gov shutdown and demanding $5B while losing tax money from large corps does not instill confidence in any investor. The wall is cheaper than letting illegal immigrants in (your right), but it is definitely not worth destabilizing your economy trying to achieve it. The wall is just one small part of a large list of reasons that harm America economically. Trump picked a stupid hill to die on. His protectionism is now hurting America.

>>12239383
>liberal
>fucking cuck
you sound perturbed. Can you take 5 minutes to meditate and do some deep breaths before returning to the keyboard and coming up with a proper response? Thanks sweaty

>>12235067
>90%
Not exactly.

And remember that contribution inflows are much smaller than account balances, and either can be shifted out of equities and into bonds/cash very easily.

>>12239258
Not to mention the trade war with China, global slow down in growth, interest rate hikes announced before Trump got elected.
Stop being fucking retards

>>12239437
>but it is definitely not worth destabilizing your economy trying to achieve it.

I'ma stop you right there, chief. It absolutely is. And if you don't understand how demographic death spirals and multiculturalism take down empires like ours, I'll kindly ask you to never vote.

If Trump dawdles any more on mass deportations, much less a wall, we're looking at China kneecapping us with a civil war in ten years.

>>12237838
This, she wouldn't be so focused on pokemon go, she'd be pokemon going to save the country

>>12239544
All empires fall. The ones that successfully integrated and interbred with conquered peoples tended to last longer.

bitcoin will be next

>>12239437
Importing spics is how you permanently destabilize your economy forever. Just look at the countries these muds are leaving and then look at the communities they build within the US. These people are absolute trash and in the long term are cementing a permanent decrease in your future quality of life. Fuck shitskins. I'll gladly fuck up the economy for a half decade of it means throwing these fucking people back to where they came because quite frankly I'm thinking in the long term.

>>12239632
It's funny when an obvious leftist starts counter signaling as a militaristic imperialist that is an avid supporter of conquest. You people are so fucking dishonest and two faced which is exactly why people are so 'paranoid' regarding leftists. You are untrustworthy, backhanded, and slimy.

>>12239701
You might want to recheck your definition of countersignaling but I understand what you are trying to get at. I guess the irony of the “modern United states empire” wasn’t as obvious as I thought it was. And your comment about shitskins makes it pretty clear where your priorities are. Good luck with your wealthy aryan utopia, I’m sure it will be the dominant superpower in the world for millenniums to come.

Spamming boards with leftist lunacy will not lose him his guaranteed second term.
Continue wasting your time now.

>>12236922

>Trump isn't responsible for the collapse- land speculation is and always will be in a capitalist economy (without public ownership of land).

What the fuck am i reading

>>12239437
10 billion was just given to Mexico and central America to assist with blocking illegals. 5 billion is nothing.

>>12235713
>>12238774
This. I am glad he won and dont expect much more. I am pretty happy with some of this stuff that has happened. I dont mind a drop in market as I need to buy some cheapies for my own portfolio. Boomers can keep working and not retire for all I care.

>>12235038
Of course he did
I was saying this since the time he started messing with N. Korea and Iran
Every statement he made moved military stocks and others big time. Insiders would had make billions

Hes a fucking McAffee of conventional markets

>>12240475
>Good luck with your wealthy aryan utopia

You speak as if Western European civilizations and the anglosphere arent the gold standard of the world. Even supposedly "high IQ" gooks mass emmigrate out of their shithole countries to join Western societies built by "wealthy aryans." Fact of the matter is mass immigration of spics will never bring you your socialist Utopia, you will just get another Latin American shithole of pepertual poverty and destabilization

>>12236473
>C-can't even formulate an argument so he resorts to mocking in a dumb studdering fashion

The absolute state of dems. You probably love niggers.

Turn off CNN you soyy faggot.

>>12235930
>At least the former CAN do something right
being able to be legally sworn in wasn't one of them, article 18, you can't be sworn in once you have admitted to destroying federal documents

ineligible for office

>>12239632
Subjugating people during the rise of Rome or importing every kind of European during Manifest Destiny are not relevant situations.

White Americans also don't have the weight of numbers, so we can throw out any Chinese-integrating-steppe-conquerors situations counted in your dumbfuck analysis.

Then we can just look at Austria-Hungary, Lebanon, Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union, or even Belgium (that can't even form a government) to see where your dumbfuck multicultural idealism leads.

>>12235833
>The Fed kicked it off
>QE that went on far too long
wtf dude only on biz or pol do I halfway expect someone to say something so contradictory. I'm still amazed.
>>12237399
I wonder that too. I only envision a kind of bizzarro psychedelic maga trip where all contradictions are kept out of vision in the pink comfy tunnel of muh altright feefees.

>>12235038
No, the Federal Reserve pumped and dumped the stock market. They lowered the Federal Funds interest rate to 0%, which allowed big banks to borrow money for free, they lend this money out to big corporations, who use the borrowed money to buy back their own stocks, which makes the stock market pump. Ma and Pa boomers are not moving the market. So now the interest rate is rising, and it is less profitable to borrow money, so volume dries up because stock buybacks are coming to a screeching halt, these corporations sell their stocks one last time, and kaboom, your 401k gets JUST'D. You can't taper a Ponzi.

>>12236296
Incorrect, boom and bust cycles are not normal, they are caused intentionally by central banks(Federal Reserve). They teach in University that it's natural so that no "educated" person will ever be able to properly address or fix the problem.

>>12237573

Zoomers and doomers are seeing their first correction after the longest march up in valuations ever. This has lead to apocalypse fantasy posting since they "invested" in stupid prepper shit like physical gold, canned air and crypto. Media is also feeding panic but it's typical - market goes down, media trots out the permabears claiming they were right, despite the market being higher than when they first claimed to get out even accounting for the latest losses. Once weak hands get shaken out and data/events show risk was overblown, it will be like the last few months never happened.

Everyone in this thread needs to watch this. This is how the economy really works.

https://youtu.be/WVxWPkMXOmw

>>12237686
>(((independent)))

>>12240807

Does nobody read Henry George anymore? Why the fuck are you here if you don't study economics?

>>12237736
this guy's right. leave the poor russians alone!

>>12235930
I mean if I guess if you want a broad who ritualistically abuses young children. Sure.

>>12239234
Glad there are dudes like you defending the cause
Fuck shareblue
Fuck lefties
And fuck hypocrites

>>12235930
Hillary is competent. But she doesn't have your interests in mind. That's why people prefer Trump. He also doesn't have your interests in mind but he's incompetent to boot.