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>started lifting 2 years ago
>got a job and car
>started wearing contacts and dressing better
>started using tinder
>present day
>still no friends let alone GF
>still don't want to do anything due to depression
>everytime I go to work or the gym I just get more depressed
>very difficult to get back into old hobbies, feels like I never liked anything in my life

Why did 4chan lie to me?

>> No.12215988

You're depressed because you're always comparing yourself with other people.

>> No.12216001

>>12215988
Checked. This is true anon. Happiness comes from within. You are your only competitor. I hope you find this out.

>> No.12216006

>>12215988
How am I comparing myself to other people?

>> No.12216219

>>12215988

Absolutely true, and this is universal. Comparison is the thief of joy. OP, I guarantee if you were alone for a couple months with no stimulus from the outside world you would discover how easy it actually is to be content. Of course this is pretty hard to accomplish when you're bombarded with images and implicit judgment 24/7. I recommend a week in the woods with no internet to help reset your mind and help you discover those priorities which are inner-driven.

>> No.12216251

>>12215988
Or a potential chemical/nutritional imbalance caused by oxidative stress/environment/genetics.

>> No.12216279

>>12216219
I already did that. I was a hikki for 7 years, and I spent a month in another city with no internet trying to self improve and be social. It didn't do anything. Keep in mind I'm 31, and nobody wanted to be my friend in the pre-internet era.

>> No.12216297

>>12216251
When I started lifting I shaped up my diet. Mostly lean protein with minimal carbs. Lots of vitamin supps too.

>> No.12216298

>>12216279
https://www.walshinstitute.org/
https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/podcast/anti-aging-podcasts/what-is-nad/

Start readin', boy.

>> No.12216304

not having friends is seriously great. the best thing though is a qt gf to wake up to and hold to sleep. i miss those days :-/

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>>12215938
Do you still watch and masturbate to online pornography?

>> No.12216350

>>12215938
Same except i didnt have a job but went to uni.
I traveled to asia and unironically snuggled a super qt nihon girl.
Western women are humorless creatures

>> No.12216388

>>12216341
>dopamine bad
>drugs bad

Fuck off you actual baby boomer.

>> No.12216404

>>12216006
YOU don't even have a girlfriend yet AND you feel like shit every day, WHILE all those normies who are unironically dumber than a bag of rocks ARE CONTENT to suck on the teet of the (((governing authority))) while working towards their own destruction.

>> No.12216405

>>12216298
Fuck off shill. I already payed thousands of dollars doing TMS therapy and Ketamine infusion. Things that are supposed to be magic bullets for treatment resistant depression. Didn't do shit. And fuck you again for trying to blame the victim instead of my friendless environment.

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>>12216388
It's your choice to indulge, but everybody has the right to be informed of what the science says.

>> No.12216436

i am so glad i have been single all these years... allowed me to have more money to invest in crypto.

in a year or two i can retire and find bitches with my new wealth

>> No.12216442

>>12216304
Her body was so warm and soft and smelled nice and I do quite miss the companionship and being able to hold each other on those cold winter nights.

>> No.12216492

>>12216405
If you don't want to read, learn, and admit that perhaps you haven't exhausted all possibilities then you are contributing to your own problem.

Work on that charisma, too.

>> No.12216511

>>12216492
>just pay $5000 for more bogus homeopathy :^)
Yeah,no.

>> No.12216513

>>12216416
>dopamine crqving from sex looks like dopamine graving from drugs

No fucking shit sherlock. What are you trying to tell me?

>> No.12216518

>>12215938
i don't see any mention of getting filthy rich with internet meme monies there, anon
you DID buy the bottom, didn't you?

>> No.12216532

>>12216511
Tried to help, later.

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>>12216513
That you have a porn addiction.

>> No.12216561

>>12216251
>>12215938
Basically OP, smoke meth in moderation
Problem solved

>> No.12216574

>>12216388

Smells like addict COPE

>> No.12216705

>>12216543
What if I have an addiction to the internet in general based on this image

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>>12216705
Yep, you've hit the nail on the head. Somewhere along the revolution of the Internet, we lost sight of ourselves. Nicholas Carr in his book The Shallows noticed that even he himself a renowned author had a difficult time sitting still and reading a book. Good news is that the brain is malleable and with time and discipline, you can restore your brain back to equilibrium.

The reason why pornography and masturbation are so potent is that they hit at the core limbic system of our brain. Hence the addiction is that much more powerful and a detriment to our well-being. Research: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/research/

>> No.12216782

>>12216405

Looks like you haven't done any serious self reflecting at all. If people don't want to be your friends the problem is you. Tough luck.

>> No.12216944

>>12216782
What am I supposed to self reflect on? I was being myself and it wasn't working.

>> No.12216964

>>12216543
>>12216574
>>12216741
Addiction is a symptom not a cause. If people had girlfriends they obviously wouldn't need to look at porn.

Here's a nicely produced video that sums it up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg

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>>12216964
>Addiction is a symptom not a cause. If people had girlfriends they obviously wouldn't need to look at porn.
Friend. Nobody is entitled to a girlfriend. Just because you lack X doesn't justify an addiction. You've never made a definitive statement that you broke free from your porn and masturbation addiction. If anything, you're making excuses for it. Just because you spent some time in the woods with no internet doesn't mean you're magically porn-free. Are you addicted to pornography? See this >>12216543 and cross-check yourself for the four C's.

Here's an informative educational video backed up by scientific and academic research that proves the harmful effects of porn and masturbation addiction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oFVOJf0TzY


Remember, the first step towards recovery is admitting you are addicted.

>> No.12217051

>>12215938
I'll be ur friend anon

>> No.12217071

>>12217023
I've already done nofap, it just makes me feel incredibly horny all the time and frustrated at the fact I don't have a girlfriend.

>> No.12217078

>>12215938
You fell into the trap. You are still the same unsuccessful person inside, you have just changed the superficial stuff about your appearance and your belongings. The answer is in you, not in what you look like, not what your possessions are.

>very difficult to get back into old hobbies, feels like I never liked anything in my life

You're finally growing up, this is a good thing, not a bad thing. Fuck 'hobbies', put that energy into yourself. Don't get caught in the bullshit numbers game of how you need to be X height and have Y income and Z car

>> No.12217097

>>12217078
OK, so what am I supposed to put into myself?

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>>12217071
This isn't NoFap. NoFap is a bunch of psuedoscience bro-science. These are real scientific studies pointing out the harmful effects of online porn addiction.
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/research/

>> No.12217180

>>12217097
Become a person worth knowing. Most people are just egos these days, they are hollow, there is nothing inside of them. This is why they are so materialistic... it's their only means of comparing themselves to one another. If you are hollow inside, if most other people around you are hollow inside, then the only way to differentiate one another is by having a more expensive car, or a hotter girlfriend, or a better job.

Do good things for others and expect nothing in return. When you see something bad happening, do something about it, even though there's nothing you're going to get out of it. When you can do that, you will have something real inside of you.

Don't take advice from stupid narcissists on the internet, especially about how to feel about yourself.

>> No.12217192

>>12217180
except women and normies love narcissists

>> No.12217217

>>12217180
I was always a person of my conviction. It was wasn't attractive to people. And I already volunteered and helped people, it didn't do anything.

>> No.12217242

>>12217192
Hollow ones, maybe. Not everyone is like that though. But if you've been demoralized by all the 'blackpill' shit you find on the internet, then it's easy to have your perspective about the world skewed.

There are good women out there, but they're not easy to find. You aren't going to find them on Tinder. You might not even find them on Facebook. Not every woman is some disgusting slut who spent her 20's in clubs and bars, there are women with souls out there.

>> No.12217273

>>12217217
You have tried volunteering at the local homeless shelter?

>> No.12217289 [DELETED] 

>>12217273
I just said I did volunteering.

>> No.12217297

>>12215938
Are you fit tho?

>> No.12217300

>>12217273
I just said I did volunteering. I hated it. I felt like a literal retard doing it everyday.

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>>12217289
My bad, for some reason I thought that was another post. Have you tried reading the Bible?

>> No.12217311

>>12217297
I put on 20 pounds of lean muscle mass while maintaining a 13% body fat ratio.

>> No.12217317

>>12215988

Lol this old tale.

Spoiler: comparing yourself to other people is part of the human condition. Telling people not to do that you might as well just tell a person to stop breathing.

OP needs pussy, friends, and some alcohol

>> No.12217321

>>12217307
>swaps out one retarded idea with an even more retarded one
Stop peddling your bullshit in my thread.

>> No.12217337

>>12217317
>OP needs pussy, friends, and some alcohol
This except I don't drink. Pussy and friends seem impossible to attain for me though.

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>>12217321
Why not, you're pretty much out of options by this point.

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>>12217337
>Pussy and friends seem impossible to attain for me though.
Good news is that Jesus Christ is not impossible to attain. He offers you a free gift of salvation.

>> No.12217408

>>12217340
>>12217345
Yeah, because it worked so well for you that you're no longer posting on 4chan with the rest of the depressed losers. Oh wait...

>> No.12217418

>>12217311
So you ugly then?

>> No.12217419

>>12217023
Too bad acting like a normal human being is liable to get you imprisoned these days.

Oh well. At least we should thank the Boomers for inventing sex in the 1960s.

>> No.12217423

>>12217337

Well drink then! It will help with the other 2 issues!

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>>12217408
Whoever said I only posted on 4chan?

>> No.12217451

>>12217418
That and I'm 5'4.

>> No.12217489

>>12217451
Well fug. Move to Asia or some such? I think that's common advice on internets for shorter gentlemen.

>> No.12217490

>>12217451
I'm sorry anon, see what you can do about improving your looks. You need to adopt an alpha personality that commands everyone's attention with your presence.

>> No.12217571

>>12217490
I can't really improve my looks without entering surgery at this point. And you can't fake an alpha personality, everyone can see through you and makes them like you even less for being inauthentic.

>> No.12217579

>>12217451
lil short nigga bet you cant even ride the lil kiddie rollercoaster bitch nigga. fuck the bumper cars too nigga, only thing you can ride is the kiddy swings fuckboy.

wheres my gold coins you lil leprechaun ass bitch

>> No.12217583

>>12216304
>not having friends is seriously great
how so

>> No.12217601

>>12217451
Idk man. The truth is your personality probably just stinks. If you're fun to be around people will gravitate towards you. Maybe try some mdma.

>> No.12217614

>>12217601
I'm just being myself though.

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>>12217023
>Nobody is entitled to a girlfriend.

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>>12217601
Or try reading the Bible.

>> No.12217627

>>12217571
Not really. Take on leadership roles. Firefighter, police, military or coast guard, or become a missionary that helps the true underserved. People that matter will look up to you.

>> No.12217637

>>12217601
>personality probably just stinks
aka, people have nothing to gain from associating with him

>> No.12217642

>>12217627
>Firefighter, police, military or coast guard, or become a missionary

I'm not low IQ.

>> No.12217662

>>12215988
This also nice digits. Op’s problem is inside his head unless he is deformed somehow. Im skinnyfat manlet neet and even I have a qt3.14 gf.

>> No.12217676

>>12217662
>It's just inside your head that no one wants to talk to you!
What did he mean by this?

>> No.12217677

>>12216279

Being alone in the woods is qualitatively different than being "alone" in your room in the city. Trust me, it's a huge shift in mental functioning.

>> No.12217683

>>12215938
get a bf

>> No.12217696

>>12217642
But you are butt fucking ugly. Can't have the world without some sacrifices anon.

>> No.12217709

>>12217677
aka, "hell is other people"

>> No.12217712

>>12217696
Aside from the fact I have no interest in that shit, you do understand I'm 31 right?

>> No.12217808

>>12217712
I don't know anon, so far your constant self berrating/pity attitude makes you come across as an insufferable faggot. Maybe you need to get past that first, I don't know. Good luck though, I really hope you come through!

>> No.12217818

>>12217808
Where am I asking for pity? Thanks for nothing though.

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>>12217818
Jesus Christ loves you for you who are. I know it's hard to comprehend, but He knows every hair on your head and much more. There is real power in the Word of God. Read the Bible and see what God has for you in store.

>> No.12217838

>>12217818
>Where am I asking for pity?
>Thanks for nothing though.
jej

>> No.12217915

>>12217833
>If I just keep spamming his thread, maybe he'll suddenly convert :^)
Looks like being a christian turns you into a retard with no self awareness.

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>>12217915
I'm not asking you to convert, I'm asking give Jesus Christ a chance.

By the way, you're still posting here, so I will keep reaching out to you in response.

>> No.12218315

>>12215938
Your personality is shit.

>> No.12218327

>>12215938
>waaaa why did pursuing goals others set for me leave me feeling empty waaaaa
Maybe think for yourself instead of listening to the fags here? You really think there aren’t happy people who haven’t done a single thing you mentioned? There are, because they live on their own terms.

>> No.12218331

>>12217935
piss off wanker

>> No.12218349

>>12215938
what the fuck. this isn't /fit/. go post your blog feels over there.

>> No.12218364

>after crypto is dying, /biz/ goes from /r/ cryptogeneral to /r9k/-lite
Fuck this gay board there’s literally nothing here about finance or business. Also, if you’re so “depressed”, what motivated you to make a thread? It took thought and effort. It’s almost like you’ve spent nearly a decade getting your dopamine fix from feelings sorry for yourself on the internet and pursuing superficial “self-improvement” instead of actually making efforts to be better.

>> No.12218382

>>12215938
become like a kid. start a second childhood of sorts. pick up a musical instrument with no judging or bullying yourself for being not a virtuoso at first. and you still have your adult self to do the parenting this time around. the kid will die when you become great at the instrument and you will have blossomed into the person you want to be. as if you haad a perfect childhood. you are your mom and dad this time around, my son.

>> No.12218404

>>12217427
Are you that weirdo Malaysian dude? Asking for Jesus

>> No.12218441

>>12215938
If you are depressed, take anti depressants

>> No.12218454

>>12216574
being an addict is misunderstood. its about beating the neurochemical factory into submission daily. about choosing EXACTLY how you want to feel at any moment you choose. stims will make motivation an irrevelent issue. you have a bottle of magic motivation pills. and any addict worth his salt is MASTER of his habit. you underestimate how good some smarter addicts are at managing this shit. its like ocd autist science to them. to be perfectly titrated, dosed and measured down to the mnute, down to the .001 of a gram using scientificly percise measuring instruments. i put myself against any pther peer in my feild at my work and my addiction allows me to hypercompete and go above and beyond what nodrugs copefags can go. sorry english fifth language you pasty cousin fucking bastards

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>>12218454
This

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>tfw dropped out of university after 2 to become a wagecuck
>been through a few shit customer service jobs between periods of being a NEET and going into another job im January
>fuck all money and savings but live in a sharehouse with friends. Have a good sized group of friends that I actually like and there's no drama or BS because almost all are dudes
>Don't have my drivers licence, have bad vison but don't wear glasses or contacts
>no gf and last date/physical contact with a girl was 3 years ago. Haven't touched tinder/dating sites because I can't force myself to try to not be myself to impress some roastie who thinks "random adventures and travelling" are actual interests or hobbies
>have my small stack of link after getting back into
>enjoy /v/ /a/ and /tg/ hobbies, rotate between them as one gets boring or declines for abit.
Anon just don't bother with caring about how normies act and figure out what you actually enjoy yourself. The person you're stuck with for your entire life is you, so you better figure that shit out

>> No.12218634

>>12218550
I'm opposite
>hate people
>start hating "friends"after topps 1 year
>live alone in studio
>buy coins
>only pleasure is pussy
>hobby is fucking every girl on 1st date

>> No.12218709

>>12218550
>The person you're stuck with for your entire life is you,
based advice

>> No.12218782

>>12216388
>You cannot even finish a book because your brain cannot get high from slow releases of dopamine anymore

>> No.12218950

>>12218327
Being a NEET is living on my own terms. But it didn't win me friends or a GF.

>> No.12218953

>>12218364
How is it superficial? What else could I possibly be doing?

>> No.12219041

Fucking hell dude. Your self loathing is cringe af.

>> No.12219075

>>12217345
This site has turned to such dog shit.

>> No.12219090

>>12219075
It's always been shit newfag.

>> No.12219158

>>12215938
Lifting wont cure your autisem

>> No.12219161

>>12219041
Where do you see self loathing? I'm just pointing out how the shitty self improvement meme is a scam and a lie.

>> No.12219220

>>12218382
How will that get me friends?

>> No.12219308

>>12217709

Exactly. Your self-conception radically changes when it's not being refracted through the eyes of others.

>> No.12219391

>>12216279
go /out/ young man

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>>12217273
>and by this, he means "smoking meth in moderation"

>> No.12219432

>no fap cult spamming their bullshit again
Ive fucked 15 girls in my life and fap everyday.
theres nothing wrong with porn you nimrods.
>muh T levels
there are studies that show that T levels RISE during long masturbation sessions

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>>12218634
r u me m8

>> No.12219497

>>12215938
Happiness is not a realistic goal. Life is struggle and happiness is dependent upon too many things outside your control. Be grateful for your pain and try to be a better person. It's all anyone can do, really.

>> No.12219501

>>12215938
becuase 50% of males never have kids or sex with non pro or hambeast why did u rhink you were not in that 50%

>> No.12219590

>>12219497
Even though the number of unhappy and depressed people is larger than it has ever been before, at the end of the day, most people aren't, and as far as I can tell seem to enjoy their lives.

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>>12215938
I never really compare myself to other people, I just get it in my head that I don't have any friends to go out with so if I go out I'll probably do nothing, spend money, feel even more lonely and then come back home still friendless. I run through that simulation in my head feel like I shouldn't go out then I don't and just lie on my bed in the outfit I put on to go out and then smoke a half pack chug some vodka and then wake up at 2am cursing my damned cycle of shit. I think my brain is shutting down, I don't even find women sexually attractive much anymore, I can't feel anything but a pit in my stomach, I don't use the internet much, I usually just sit and stare which causes me to think about how much I hate decisions I've made and I'm slowly inching closer and closer to an heroing. I really need to make some friends but can't seem to do it like I used to, no matter how much I connect with someone I always have a voice in the back of my head that says "they would be bored with you in 5 minutes, why even try?" I can't seem to express my feelings to anyone, hell there's a 50/50 chance I'll delete this message too

>> No.12219706

>>12217321
>wahh muh life sucks
>don't tell me about jesus
Well there's your problem.

>> No.12219722

>>12215938
go to raves, take mdma

>> No.12219726

>>12216297

Dude you're 31. People are too busy with kids/career at this age to give a shit about havin a cold one with the boys. Don't take it personally. You'll find a gf pretty soon if you put yourself out there

>> No.12219733

>>12217571
Even if you don't believe it, just keep telling yourself mentally everytime you see a woman in public "she wants to fuck me" Do this until it becomes habit, some confidence will be a byproduct.

>> No.12219756

Smoke weed and take some shrooms.

>> No.12219768

>>12219722
No friends to go with to a rave. Don't have access to mdma due to aforementioned lack of friends. And who goes to raves at age 31?

>>12219726
>You'll find a gf pretty soon if you put yourself out there
It doesn't really work that way since every social event I'd have to attend alone, which is extremely unattractive to women.

>> No.12219772

>>12219669
I would recommend a social hobby like Jiu-Jitsu, at least then you'll have an excuse to socialize.

>> No.12219775

>>12219756
Weed didn't do anything, no access to shrooms due to no friends.

>> No.12219785

>>12219772
He'll just become the weird quiet guy no one talks to. Speaking from experience.

>> No.12219795

>>12219785
That was never my experience and I'm introvert as fuck. Many people there are into it for the same reasons.

>> No.12219807

>>12219795
Then you're not as introverted as you think you are.

>> No.12219820

>>12219785
Yeah don't listen to these fuckers about taking drugs that's the 19 year old plan. Social hobbies are great people do them partially to make friends. Try kick boxing if you're ripped you really just need to put yourself out there

>> No.12219834

>>12219768
you don't need friends to go to a rave with. and nobody fucking knows if you go to a social event alone, just go to a bar by yourself and have some drinks or take some drugs and talk to people. a lot of people won't want to talk to you, that's fine. you're not going to get anywhere unless you get over your fear of failure. you will fail, multiple times. everyone does. the ones who succeed are the ones who move through failure.

you're just afraid, and you've built up a mental construct that is trapping you. nothing ventured, nothing gained. go fucking travel in asia or something.

i'm 31 as well and i often go to bars/clubs/other countries by myself and i've got an entire novel worth of stories of amazing experiences with great women and great friends made along the way. the difference is I don't make up bullshit excuses like attending social events alone is unattractive. what kind of bullshit is that?! own who you are and quit shooting yourself in the foot. take a look in the mirror and identify what the real problem is.

>> No.12219840

>>12219807
Lool ok dude, being too autistic to make friends isn't something to brag about.

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realized i go through periodic stages of autism where i focus on something in a desperate attempt to improve myself/find a new hobby, but then give up and try something else

>consistently got /fit/ for almost a year, then dropped it almost entirely and am now gross again
>spent a month on /g/ researching PC parts and ended building a 2k PC that I don't even use that much anymore
>spent about 8 months researching and investing into shitcoins and learning about crypto before just deciding to cash out and forget about it
>even spent some time reading the bible some time back and trying to go to church regularly, dropped that too

it's like i'm hopping from board to board on 4chan trying to adopt a new sub-culture but failing or just losing interest after some time. i don't know what's wrong with me.

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Try taking creatine since you are into lifting? It is proven to boost energy levels and intelligence and relieve depression. And you won't develop tolerance unlike stimulatory drugs like caffeine or modafinil.

Also, how are your sleeping habits like? I recommend you sleep early and wake up early.

>> No.12219919

>>12219870

You'd better gradually cash back in, or you're going to want to kill yourself in a few years.

>> No.12219947

>>12219919
am i supposed to believe the bear market is over?

>> No.12220029

>>12215938
You need a goal or hobby, something compeitive that you can work to be the best at (if you can make this your job even better).

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>>12217601
Yikes

>>12217451
JUST
That's literally the source of all your problems, RIP.

>> No.12220280

How not to be alone the guide:
Apply 1 or more of these :

1.Smile
2.Be humorous / funny
3. Smell nice
4. Tell people what they want to hear ( I don't like this one)
5. Listen ( most people don't mind talking and talking forever if someone is listening)
6. Love yourself (OP fails miserably at this one hence will be alone until he stops hating himself and feeling pity for himself)
7. Have money
8. Look attractive
9. Be helpful
10. Satisfy peoples needs
11. Be a good talker
12. Have a nice voice
13. Have a good skill to show off ( works mostly at younger circles)
14. Believe in yourself

Women decide during the first 10 seconds they meet you subconsciously if they will fuck you or not. You can change this for them later in but it's hard. Pick up the I'd fuck him hints and you won't need to unnecessary spend a lot of energy on turners.

Laat but but not least: Go outside. 4chan is poison if you can't handle it. This place isn't for everyone.

>> No.12221105

>>12215988

Based. Compare yourself to the person you were yesterday and try to be better. Never compare yourself to others or unreasonable standards. Just be a better you every day and you will get there anon.

>> No.12221708

>>12216741
This book should be required reading in every highschool in America.

>> No.12221804

>>12217935
people who convert to religion at their weakest point in life are pathetic, don't encourage that

>> No.12221840

>>12219870
what you're doing is perfectly fine but you lack depth. The ideal scenario would be to have one long-term commitment and 1-2 short term commitments toward random interests

>> No.12221856 [DELETED] 

>>12220280
tldr make sure people have something to gain just by claiming to know you to other people

>> No.12221919

>>12215938
You’re depressed because you go on 4chan, and you go on 4chan because you’re depressed.

>> No.12221947

>>12215938
OP I know this will seem like crazy advice but PLEASE look it up and consider it:

Eat meat.

Eat animal meat with plenty of saturated animal fat on it, especially beef/steak. Try eating liver too.

These foods are monumentally important to human nutrition. Cholesterol and other vitamins from the fats and organs of animals are crucial for all functioning processes of the body, and even if you're superficially fit, the body may be insufficiently supplying other processes.

Depression is NOT a normal feeling. It's only normal today because people have such shitty lives including especially their diet. Look up the mood changes of people pursuing carnivorous diets.

>> No.12222022

>>12215938
How do you guys not get disillusioned with others?I feel cynical towards others.Is it normal I don't feel bad being alone,
>tfw go through cycles of absolute demoralization and absolutele willpower /motivation

>> No.12222342

>>12219834
In any case, I've been to bars and clubs and I didn't want to associate with the people there. Kind of felt like killing everyone there.

>> No.12222396

>>12221105
Read the OP post one more time.

>> No.12222419

>>12220280
I'm not most of those things at a fundamental level, and everyone can see through you if you fake it.

>> No.12222426

>>12220280
How to love one self

>> No.12222481

life is how you dress it up, make her a pretty bitch and enjoy yourself.

>> No.12222509

>>12219947

No, that's why I said gradually. Do it over the next year.

>> No.12222627

>>12217579
Man shut the fuck up.
I was 5'4 until I was 17 when I finally grew to 5'7 (which I'm still a little insecure about). Being extremely short is the worst thing possible for a guy. There's nothing you can do about it, and society and women don't respect you, no matter how much you try to prove yourself.

>> No.12222828

>>12222627
actually true
> I'm 197cm, walking with my 9.5/10 176cm gf
> see short guy, or guy that's with girl higher than him
> laugh
I was thinking a lot about it this week, people often care too much about shit like dick size, being fit etc. but I couldn't imagine being a manlet, it has to be so depressing kek

My advice for you would be to get money, unironically becoming rich gives you dopamine highs and brings unimaginable confidence and drive for life. You won't know unless you start grinding OP.

>> No.12222835

>>12222828
or get an asian gf, all chinks I know are around my waist and their chicks are even shorter

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Hey OP, sounds like you have a lot of free time. Buy yourself a shitty old jeep and restore it... something like a Jeep CJ, TJ, or an IH Scout. Learn how to how to turn nothing into something.

t. gen-Xer

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>>12215988
Blue pill ID checked
Babbys first bad day. Just wait for The depression when you start comparing with yourself from the previous years.

>> No.12224274

>>12216006
You tell us anon
>>12216297
good keep going now you need to seek spiritual gains read more
>>12216405
you are the one creating your own vitriolic cell you need to let go of negative emotion or channel it into productive efforts which it seems you tend to do
>>12216511
who said you need to spend money?
>>12216944
again you need to look inward and seek spiritual gains and inner peace and tranquility
>>12216964
stop indulging in fantasies and living in grandiosity. by perceiving you deserve more you feed your ego and drive an unrealistic sense of self https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD0cNRsJugg&app=desktop
stop chasing what you want and start wanting what you've got
>>12217071
you don't need to no fap but limit it to once a week at most
>>12217097
put in positive emotions and energy. PMA positive mental attitude is a soft skill game changer anything the mind can perceive the mind can achieve
>>12217217
perhaps you were self sabotaging for reasons we or even yourself are unaware of
>>12217337
why do you think that is exactly?
>>12217408
are you projecting what makes you think we are depressed and or losers?
>>12217451
>>12217571
it seems like you hate yourself on some leve in regards to things you cannot control. learn to live with and enjoy that lack of control and practice self care
>>12219161
you self deprecate in many of your posts not in humor but in caustic self harming ways mentally

anon send me an email I wouldn't mind chatting with you in depth sirprinceo@live.com a throwaway but I'll check for a response

>> No.12224337

>>12215938
>Why did 4chan lie to me?
You could litetally be the nicest most interesting guy on earth, if your social skills suck you'll die alone without any friend.

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>>12217451
> 36 posts by this ID
> oh by thew way I'm 5'4 gyuse
You just could've told THIS right away.
There is no help man.
No way out,
It's ogre.
They say just find a shorter girl bro.
Who the fuck would even consider putting such a curse upon his children.
The only chance is ...by some miracle...getting a 5ft11+ ugly fat landwhale.
As I've said...it's unironically ogre.

>> No.12224716

>>12215938
Gym doesnt work because you're not getting natural light and fresh air. Quit going immediately and start going jogging and lifting weights in your back garden. If you still play video games or watch porn then quit them as well. Start reading books, enjoying nature and appreciating what you do have.

>> No.12225309

>>12215938
Op don't get fooled by the title, take your time to listen.

WERALLGONNAMAKEIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYyogRigLEk&t=727s

>> No.12225451

This is a bit of a long shot but may help you.
The normal IQ range for two humans to understand each other is 30IQ points. Outside of that range mutual understanding becomes difficult to impossible.
Thankfully IQ is hereditary so for most they are born into communities with ultra high IQ (140+) and have other individuals they can communicate with.
However, there are always exceptions. 140+ children born into poor/low middle communities often find themselves isolated and unable to relate to anyone. They often don't do well in school due to poor social skills and a focus on rote work. Since they never meet anyone they can relate to, they end up assuming they are unique in the world. Generally, their life sucks because even if they can get into a better environment their preconceived notions of others and lack of social skills prevent them from communicating with other 140+ individuals.

If this is OP, the best bet (and probably impossible) is an attitude change. A recognition that OPs view of people is colored by his unusual circumstances. The attitude changes then need to be followed up by actively seeking to enter more intelligent communities.

>> No.12225475

>>12215938
You gave it 2 years and already trying to give up? Yeah sure mate start smoking, go NEET and start getting fat. Surely with that mindset you will get wealth beyond belief and all the thots bcs nobody likes more than a fat jobless NEET loser. Think anon...

>> No.12225722

>>12219220
Can you imagine someone who plays the piano or accordion REALLY WELL being left out of "the gang"?

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>>12217451
There it is

>> No.12226207

>>12218782
>everyone that watches porn or any other instant gratification hobby/vice are shackled to only enjoying those things
Imagine being this retarded

>> No.12226394

>>12223011
I work in the auto industry, so I know exactly how colossal a money sink your idea is. Having a car hobby is one of the biggest things keeping young people poor.

>> No.12226454

>>12225722
Where is this hypothetical gang of people looking for an amateur 31 year old pianist?

>> No.12226480

>>12225451
I already went to college. I didn't feel like I fit in any better since most people conflate education with career training. I was looking for smart people with ideals and I didn't see any of that there.