/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12204897
#2 Physical Silver is a Hard Asset
Of all the investments you own, how many can you hold in your hand?

In a world of paper profits, digital trading, and currency creation, physical silver stands in contrast as one of few assets that you can carry in your pocket anywhere you go, even another country. And it can be as private and confidential as you want. Physical silver is also a tangible hedge against all forms of hacking and cybercrime

>Canadian maple leaf
Top kek only buy american silver eagles

>>12204905
#3 Silver is Cheap
What if I said you could buy a hard asset at 1/70th the price of gold—and it would protect you just as well against crisis?

That’s what you get with silver! It is much more affordable for the average investor, and yet as a precious metal will help maintain your standard of living as good as gold. If you can’t afford to buy a full ounce of gold, silver can be your ticket to holding some precious metals. This is also true for gift-giving. Don’t want to spend over a $1,000 on a present but would like to give a hard asset? Silver just made it more affordable.

>>12204958
Canadian Maples have the 9999 purity, most everything else has 999 purity at best.

>>12205007
#4 Silver is More Practical For Everyday Small Purchases
Silver isn’t just cheaper to buy, but can be more practical when you need to sell. Maybe someday you don’t want to sell a full ounce of gold to meet a small financial need. Enter silver. Since it frequently comes in smaller denominations than gold, you can sell only what you want or need at the time.

>>12205022
#5 Silver Outperforms Gold In Bull Markets
Silver is a very small market—so small, in fact, that a little money moving into or out of the industry can impact the price to a much greater degree than other assets (including gold). This greater volatility means that in bear markets, silver falls more than gold. But in bull markets, silver will soar much further and faster than gold.

Here are couple good examples… check out how much more silver gained than gold in the two biggest precious metals bull markets in the modern era

>>12205036

>>12205068
#6 Silver Inventories Are Falling
Governments and other institutions have traditionally held inventories of silver. But today, most governments no longer hold stockpiles of the metal. In fact, the only countries that warehouse silver are the US, India, and Mexico.

Look what’s happened to those inventories since 1996.

Government Silver Inventories: Down 73%

A big reason governments don’t hold a lot of silver is because coinage is no longer made from the precious metal. But as you’ll see, silver is used in industry to a much greater degree now… so if future industrial needs are difficult to meet, governments will be ill-equipped to support those needs.

>>12205084
#7 Industrial Use is Growing
Believe it or not, you don’t go one day without using a product that contains silver.

It’s used in nearly every major industry, from electronics and medical applications to batteries and solar panels. Silver is everywhere, whether you see it or not. As Mike says in his book, “Of all the elements, silver is the indispensable metal. It is the most electrically conductive, thermally conductive, and reflective. Modern life, as we know it, would not exist without silver.” Due to these rare characteristics, the number of industrial applications for silver has skyrocketed. In fact, industry now gobbles up more than half of all silver demand.

Silver is used in a wide number of industries and products, and many of those uses are growing. Here’s a few examples…

• A cell phone contains about one-third of a gram of silver, and cell phone use continues to climb relentlessly worldwide. Gartner, a leading information technology research and advisory company, estimates a total of 5.75 billion cell phones will be purchased between 2017 and 2019. That means 1.916 billion grams of silver, or 57.49 million ounces, will be needed for this use alone!

• The self-heating windshield in your new Volkswagen will have an ultra-thin invisible layer of silver instead of those tiny wires. They’ll even have filaments at the bottom of the windshield to heat the wipers so they don’t freeze to the glass.

• The Silver Institute estimates that silver use in photovoltaic cells (the main constituents of solar panels) will be a whopping 75% greater in 2018 than it was just 3 years earlier.

• Another common industrial use for silver is as a catalyst for the production of ethylene oxide (an important precursor in the production of plastics and chemicals). The Silver Institute projects that due to growth in this industry, 32% more silver will be needed by 2018 than what was used in 2015.

>>12205096
There are a lot more examples like this, but the bottom line is that due to its unique characteristics, industrial uses for silver continue to expand, which means we can reasonably expect this source of demand to remain robust. But that’s not the whole story… unlike gold, most industrial silver is consumed or destroyed during the fabrication process. It’s just not economic to recover every tiny flake of silver from millions of discarded products. As a result, that silver is gone for good, and limits the amount of supply that can return to the market through recycling.
So not only will the ongoing growth in industrial uses keep silver demand strong, millions of ounces cannot be reused. That might be a problem, because…

>>12205109
Silver supply has fallen three consecutive years, the first time since 1991-1993.

As much as two-thirds of silver mine supply comes as a byproduct from base metal operations (copper and zinc, for example). But these other sources of supply will clearly have an impact on the availability of new metal coming to the marketplace. These realities have set the stage for a peak in silver supply. If demand stays at current levels, it will be difficult for everyone who wants silver to get as much as they need. And don’t look now, but…

>>12205116
#9 World Demand is Growing
Global demand for silver is growing. Virtually all major government mints have seen record levels of sales, with most already operating at peak production. Surging demand is nowhere more evident than China and India. These two behemoth markets have long histories of cultural affinity toward precious metals. And with their populations growing (the opposite of what is happening in the West), their tremendous appetite will continue.

This kind of demand doesn’t happen in a vacuum. Sooner or later there will be consequences when surging demand meets crimped supply—and those consequences are all positive if you own the metal.

>>12205135
#10 The Gold/Silver Ratio Favors Silver
Last, the gold/silver ratio (the price of gold divided by the price of silver) can give clues about which metal might be the better buy at any given time. Especially when the ratio reaches an extreme…

The gold-to-silver ratio averaged 47:1 during the 20th century. It’s averaged about 61:1 in the 21st century. So a ratio at or above 70 is in outlier territory and thus makes silver a good buy relative to the price of gold. You can see that the ratio sank to almost 30 at the peak of the bull market in 2011. It reached as low as 17 in early 1980. This compression in the ratio shows just how much silver can outperform its cousin gold. It also confirms it is undervalued compared to gold.

• Add all up the reasons and silver just might be the buying opportunity of the decade.

It’s hard to find an asset with a greater distortion between price and fundamentals. Not only is it a good hedge against crisis, the price will be forced up by a perfect storm of fundamental factors.

>>12204958
i really don't understand why people are like this. the maple leaves are purer and have less of a premium over spot.

Imagine buying Shiny rocks that produce no yield or protection against downturn when Bonds exist

Put back on your tinfoil hat and leave this buisness forum

>>12205231
Imagine not reading the thread or giving valid arguments on a japanese anime shrimp farming board and wasting everyone’s time

AYO BREAK ME OFF SOME OF THAT SHINE ROCK NIBBA

If Trump fires Powell gold and silver will have massive gains

>>12205469
Yup cause it's shiny and it's a rock

>>12205514
No it's because gold and silver are historical stores of value and Powell being fired means the interest rates go back down and the money printing presses start up again. A Powell firing could also bring about a collapse of the dollar which is again good for precious metals.

>>12205566
yea historical cause it's shiny as fuck nigga

>>12205607
Diamonds are the hardest mettle

>>12205017
>muh purer coins
>0.0009 purer
Top kek its literally a 1 cent marketing gimmick you serf
>>12205209
>muh cheaper coins
They’re cheaper for a reason, they look like shit and have less value then an ASE because ASE’s retain value when spot drops off a cliff. If spot were to drop to $10 I’d still be selling ASE’s at 50% above spot at $15. Good luck selling literal shitcoin maples at that price. ASE’s low mintage population adds to its value. Maples are in surplus hence why they’re a cheaper coin premium.

shine rock is da shit
fukkin racyist gobermen is givin yall that fake paper shit. fukk that shit yo. shine rock is da real shit
it gots shine, it gots values and da chicks get crazay for it. get sum now fool!

>>12204958
>>Canadian maple leaf
>Top kek only buy american silver eagles
You are an ignorant dingus.
>America, fuck yeah!!! Canada bad, America, fuck yeah!!!

>>12204897
Give this a shot, its pretty convenient. www.onegold.com

>>12205887
kek nice argument retard, try and rebuttle this>>12205713

>>12205968
American gold & silver eagles are a joke in the rest of the world. You can't give them away in China because of inferior content.
You ignorant dingus

>>12205968
Also, I stack bars, Monopoly coins are for boomers & therefore a joke.

>>12205968
Canadian Maple Leaf coins:
Are easily recognizable
Are highly liquid
Have legal tender status
Are easy to trade
Has security features
Usually sells at a lower premium over the spot price than the Silver Eagle
Vs
American Eagle Coins:
Are easily recognizable
Are highly liquid
Have legal tender status
Are easy to trade

Also the canadian maple coin is finer therefor more pure than the american and they go for a better price.

>>12206147
>B-but these ones say America & the other ones say Canada. America is more betterer

>>12206123
>are a joke in the rest of the world
holy fuck kek, nice delusion idiot
>i stack bars bc boomers stack coins
Double kek brainlet, boomers stack bars because “more bang for muh buck”, your bar bags will never trade above spot premium. ASE’s will trade over spot premium with ease.
>>12206147
>has security features
top kek
>zero point zero, zero, zero, nine purer
holy shit kek, you actually fell for the “purer” meme?

You plebs need to get out of silver

>>12206231
Exactly, Canada is a faggot numale shithole and their mints are even shittier. Like im going to buy an ugly as shit canadian mint with the queen on it, vs a patrician American Silver Eagle. And let me just support the 3rd world country of canada by buying their silver mint. Fuck canada and fuck the maple.

>>12206343
How are your serotonin levels?

>>12206263
How is this related to europian buyers, I have done my research but you seem to bring a valid argument regarding ASE.
Also why would one buy Amerivan coins over Candian coins since it has more recognition

>>12206368
European* excusé moi

>>12206362
elevated from percs
>>12206368
American Silver Eagles
>look better than any other mint
>are backed by the most powerful country on the planet
>are the most globally recognized silver mint
>hold value above spot premium
>are low in mint population, therefore more rare
>grow in value over time head and shoulders above any other mint because of rarity
Vs
Canadian maple
>less rare
>cheaper
>0.0009 “purer”, actually only $0.01 value differential from .999
>look like shit
>are backed by the weakest country on the planet
the choice is blatantly clear

>>12206449
>cheaper
>higher purity
So as far as melt value (the only thing that matters) goes Canadian Maples are the superior choice. Thanks just bought 100k

>>12206515
This. Silver is silver, the more pure the better. Amerimutts really are fucked in the head.

>>12206515
>melt value, the only thing that matters
>maples are the superior choice
Holy fuck, dumbest post itt by far
>buy mint coins for melt value
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No you concrete level IQ idiot, you buy mint coins for sellback value, not for melt value.

Do you even know the difference between coins and rounds? If you’re buying strictly for melt value go ahead and buy overpriced maples brainlet.

For melt value you buy bars/rounds idiot.

>>12206544
Pseudo intellectual retard, go back to your chainlink thread

>>12206343
NPC Triggered.

>>12206602
You seem upset, friend. Is there something you’d like to get off your chest?

>>12206614
>>12206625
Fucking foreign dipshits always giving out misinformation, then upvoting even more misinformation. Fuck you fake intellectual shitbins go back to plebbit already

>>12204897

Try creating a bitcoin, you make it sound easy

>>12205109
>supply is peaking
i could construct the exact same marker around 1988-1992 and whoops it fucking doubled

>>12206707
I'm a US citizen & a veteran. Also been abroad where the gooks wouldn't buy my eagles bc they are viewed as inferior.
Sorry reality triggers you so hard, get off the chans & the YouTubes & go live life with the other humans a little.
It'll do ya good anon

>>12204958
You're a fucking idiot.

>>12206449
I used to buy some Canadian maples but ever since that faggot Trudeau started running the country I boycott all Canadian products.

>>12206790
Please don't poke the retard

>>12206799
(((Good good, cut off your nose to spite your face)))

just buy wiener philharmoniker
who in their right mind would ever mistrust an austrian

Canadian mint is the best in the world as far as I'm aware

>>12206836
how many 9's of pure is it?

How bad are Bong Brittanias?

>>12206857
999/1000

For all Aus anons you can buy sell and store metals online using the Perth Mint.

https://www.perthmint.com/storage/depository-online.html

>>12206889
>just let me hold your pms for you, they’re totally there
Nice try m8

Silver is the Litecoin of Boomer investments

The year is 2032, industrial civilization has collapsed, gangs of cannibals roam the countryside attacking eating what they can. A starving man and his family approach a local trading post protected by heavily armed ex-military men, he offers to trade a silver coin for some deer meat and a few blankets, the merchant laughs in his face and says "sorry, but I only accept American Silver Eagles®". The man is crushed, his wife begins to gently weep, his child is unable to weep, suffering from severe malnutrition

>>12206961
it has a higher price multiplication potential and is thus the better investment. good observation.

>>12207005
>Believing that low prices of things automatically make it more probable you'll see better returns

>>12207034
nice strawman

Never been into PM's myself, but you guys raise some valid points, and the silver long term chart, looks enticing. What kind of prices are you guys anticipating as possible in the next 5-10 years for silver?

>>12204897
Silver is useless

>>12206783
Still no argument and still larping, pathetic and sad, we need flags on biz so u larpers have to use a vpn

>>12206847
>.0009 purer
>$14.68 spot oz silver x 0.0009 = $0.01
You maplefags need to be gassed
>>12206871
Still better then maples
>>12206952
Getting smarter
>>12206961
>>12207005
Based
>>12207176
It’s gonna be the easiest 10x on the planet
>>12207180
low energy fudster accumulating

>>12206814
You already exposed yourself as stating you buy bars larper, stop shilling the worst mint on earth for free, fag

>>12206997
gave me a hearty chuckle, thanks.

>>12207176
Silver 1000 cans of beans EOY

>>12207326
Thanks, just bought 1000 ASE's. Love the thought of trading them in for 1 million cans in a few years and donating them to feed the less fortunate :)

Where are the best places to buy closest to spot price? The online shops seem to be selling coins and stuff for quite a lot beyond the value of the metal unless you buy in bulk.

>>12205017
>>12205209
>>12205887
>>12206790
Canada didn't get their MINTSHIELD™ process going until this year, so sure you can now safely buy silver maple leaves from 2018 onwards but if you buy any from 2017 or earlier you better LOVE milk spots.

>>12206368
Canadian silver eagles have an ugly lady on the back
who the fuck wants that?
>a fucking leaf

>>12207530
sdbullion

>>12207542
Lady Liberty looks like shit too desu. The eagle side is top tier though.

>>12207602
>forbidden
wtf

>>12207634
try a vpn

>>12206997
thats not going to happen

please stop shilling

>coin worth £11 in silver
>selling for £20
I still don't understand what's going on here. I mean it can't be an investment if you're paying that much over the material value. Are the buyers just coin collectors? Is that extra cost justified by manufacture and packaging or is it pure jewry?

>>12207182
>>12207250
Take your medicine & I hope your symptoms subside. Much love

>>12204897
I have a few Canadian silver coins from my dad and they've all developed these ugly stains on them.

>>12208505
Gay larper you consistently contradict your own larps, you’re a ZOG army vet while being antisemitic? Topkek fucking kike larper
>>12208554
Thats bc they’re physical shitcoins

What’s our price target for silver? $30 USD end of 2019?

>>12205713
actually colloidal silver can only be made from .9999 silver, not .999

>>12204958
Fuck maple leafs mine got spotting even though I keep them in capsules

Something people tend to ignore, intentionally or not, in silver threads:
What about the new experimental silver mining methods that can potentially decrease the price in the short term by A LOT?

>>12209485

>>12204897
Bumperino

what percentage of my silver portfolio should allocated to silver eagles?

>>12205022
If you want to be able to trade with it after the apocalypse, just buy junk silver. Old US quarters and dimes when they were actually made with silver, which lasted until the early 1960s. 63 maybe.

>>12209253
>Gay larper you consistently contradict your own larps, you’re a ZOG army vet while being antisemitic? Topkek fucking kike larper
I don't even know what zog army is, probably some neckbeard incel shit.
I retired E5 & have been to every continent besides antarctica - what have you done with your life?

>>12207326
Kek

Ummm guys here is the silver chart what do is this a fractal or are we returning to the mean.

another silver chart

>>12212464
The price now is equivalent to an all time low if you take inflation into consideration

Do someone remember the history-anon predicting the swap to silver standard? He had very insightful infos but i can't find back his posts. I would like to read them again.

>>12211626
>what zog is
zionist occupied government, you absolute newfag, lurk 10 more years.

>>12209485
Explain these magical new extraction methods, or at least provide a link

>>12204897
nobody should buy silver as insurance against crashes. it isn't a better store of value than copper, oil or wood. buying metals is pure speculation. a store of value would be highrated bonds because liquidity is more important than not loosing value. also take into account there's spread between buy/sell which makes transactions between fiats and metals expensive for you. if you want to speculate with metals buy an etc or options if you know what you do. beside being a fagot op's probably a reaseller of trash silver or expensive coins made out copper and plastic.

>>12212586
fuck off stormfag

>>12212739
he's not wrong though dude
read about the canary mission or how like 80% of US federal senators have Israeli citizenship
It's not even anti-semetic at this point, it's a fact

Even non zionist jews don't like it

RSI oversold 4h time in 20 years

You always talks about these precious metals.
Let's actually talk about how much it would actually cost to deliver 1 Kg of silver to the shithole like east EU.
How much ounces is one Kg?
What companies ships physical material, not stupid papers proving ownership?

>>12212739

Someone is this-or-that so nothing he ever says contains any truth what-so-ever.

I fucking hate collectivist ideology with a passion, but he's right when pointing out the absolute overrepresentation of Jews in US government. Wake up allready NPC, jesus christ.

>>12212843
Ok, so one Kg cost 470 bucks.
What companies ship silver?
I would take one pallet.

>>12212869
hmmm, so 1t would be 352 bars (100oz) ~1560 bucks each. So like over half a million, 550k something
How much could plane deliver cost to bring 1t pallet of silver from one point to another? Something like 2000-3000km distance.

>>12212758
>>12212857
i don't think it'd be a problem if they or other groups were over represented. i know some jews and some of those are friends of mine. it's not important what someone's religious believes are but what he's doing imo. btw the greatest thieves in history were collectivistic antisemites like stalin or hitler.

I thought you guys are rich too.
Seems like you rich in graphs and theories than in actually acquiring it.
Pffft.. wasted my time.

>>12212586
So it is neckbeard incel shit.

>>12211626
>>12212962
Fucking newfag larping boomer go back to plebbit retard. You simultaneously larp as being a army vet,kike puppet soldier, whilst using ((())). You shill dogshit maples whilst saying you buy bars. You fud ASE’s for no reason. Pick one larp and stick with it idiot. Morons like you killed biz.
>>12212739
You need to go back

>>12212939
>i know some kikes and some of those are friends of mine
You’re glowing retard

>>12212739
>>12212962
>the absolute state of zogbot npcs

>>12213104
> glowing in the dark
i would save a lot of money for electricity. :^)

>>12212939
it's the jewiest post i've ever read on 4cucks
You fucking glow shlomo, kys

>>12213197
>wanting to save money over a fucking watt

masterkike confirmed

>i don't think it'd be a problem if they or other groups were over represented
the glow

>>12213081
I was in the USAF, why is that a larp & why does it trigger you?
What have you ever done?
You can serve & still think Jews are jewy.
I also used to buy coins & moved to bars through experience.
Frankly, you are the other kind of NPC, half educated, no life experience, rigid & predictable in your half-assed woman-like tantrum responses.
As I said before, take your meds & go to sleep, wake up better.

>>12213251
Go die for israel elsewhere you traitor scum

>>12212939
There's nothing wrong with being Jewish anon but when you have a group of people who have allegiance to a foreign country controlling the government it causes a conflict of interest

>>12213274
Those are some nice angry NPC noises there

>>12213326
>n-no u

>>12213251
>>12213251
>how am i larping?
huh i dont know, its not like your contradicting yourself every other post
>trigger
nice projection idiot
>what have you ever done?
Not waste years of my life as a jew puppet
>you can serve and still think jews are jewy
Keep telling yourself that
>serving as a kike puppet is life experience
>ive been to all the 3rd world shitholes
*clap* *clap* *clap*
>woman-like responses
Ahh projecting again huh? This all makes sense now, you’re a roastie army vet, welp thanks for (((your))) service madam!

>>12213081
>You shill dogshit maples whilst saying you buy bars. You fud ASE’s for no reason
Maples are simply a finer grade & easier to cash in abroad, its common knowledge.
At any rate, I prefer bars now for lots of reasons, mostly to avoid association with conspiracy theory addled boneheads like you.

>>12213386
you know the rules newfag, tits or gtfo

>>12213363
Do go on, you're sociopathic break with reality is quite amusing. You probably think Trump is not in the Jews pocket and that he is wise & a good leader too.
Tell me how Fiat is crashing tomorrow & about the aliens too. Or is it the Clinton's? They are in it with gay mexican demons that they are summoning through the CERN portal so they can rape & eat children on the Jewish high holidays?

>>12206836
I love the philharmonics, too bad they have an cheap ugly smooth coin edge and not some kind of serrated edge.

I have been watching those youtube videos where people go to the bank and ask for rolls of half dollars and they always find a few 40% and 90% silver coins. Is that a real thing or do they fake it by putting some silver in there themselves to get views?
Has anyone here found a bunch of silver by doing that?

>>12213471
top kek, admitted roastie larper

>>12213881
her NPC level is quite impressive i must admit. Golem/10

>>12213530
Its real ive done it before, its not guaranteed though
>>12213958
Indeed, i shouldve deduced earlier that she was a roastie, her typing rhetoric
and strawman arguments shouldve made that apparent far earlier

>>12213524
true, the edges tend to oxidize quickly. can be avoided by just putting them into plastic caps, though.

>>12213363
>>trigger
>nice projection idiot

Canada is a faggot numale shithole and their mints are even shittier. Like im going to buy an ugly as shit canadian mint with the queen on it, vs a patrician American Silver Eagle. And let me just support the 3rd world country of canada by buying their silver mint. Fuck canada and fuck the maple.

Yeah, triggered