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BCH dropped the ball, BSV is the new king.

>>12165268
I followed my intuition and I unironically only hold Bitcoin SV

>>12165268
Nobody wants another centralized casino coin. BCH is the future of big blockchain. You have no idea.

>>12165275
Idiot intuition

>>12165286
I've been shilling BCH all year, couldn't believe the direction they started to take in November. Especially surprised when bitcoin.com didn't stay neutral and picked a side before the hashwar had even begun. I'm thankful that BSV is preserving bitcoin, no longer think BCH can become global money.

>>12165254
Bought 291 at 104$, sold 50% at 125$.

Let's see how far this shit coin will take the rest.

>>12165340
Keep whining. There's only place for one bitcoin. Staying neutral means giving up.
And bitcoincom has never been neutral, you're retarded if you expected them to not pick any sides.

>>12165254
Bounced off ATLs and suddenly now it's king, what a fucking joke

The legions of retard haters this coin has is rocket fuel to the ones that actually know its the real deal.

Can you imagine having been on board since the start, having all the normies laughing at you and not getting it for years on end, and then those same spastic normies start piling into the shitty sabotaged version because it was sold to them by the exact parties you originally got involved to disintermediate and they're being used as brainless cannon fodder against you?
Don't fight these people. They will win every fucking time. Just accept it. They knew what would happen ten years ago and they know what's going to happen now. They cannot be defeated. The harder you try the harder they rebound from the manipulation attempts when you inevitably fail, and all you've done is clear the deck of normies so they pick up the value at absolute rock bottom prices, which they will then hold until the next irrational bubble peak, and dump again.

>>12165395
You don't get it. It's fine.

>>12165429
It's Reddit the coin led by the dumbest and most obnoxious retards in the crypto sphere.

>>12165486
You keep losing. It's fine.

>>12165543
The problem with this though is that they're actually right, and it is people like you who are the dumbest in the space.
They're right, they've been right all along, and they'll probably continue to be right, having proven absolutely resilient to the most focused and continuous attack campaign in the ecosystem.

>>12165275
Same, senpai

>>12165624
>>12165275
You're making a mistake.

deadcat bounce / bitmain exit pumping

If BCH isn't the real deal, why is it attacked by Blockstream and the banks and the USA government all at once?
You don't attack something useless like BTC because, well, it's useless. It just seats in a wallet without ever having any affect on the real world - except enriching people early who dump it back for more fiat on the next sucker.

>>12165429
>Can you imagine having been on board since the start, having all the normies laughing at you and not getting it for years on end
Oh I think I know who you are but I can't ask, because this is 4caner...

>>12165657
Wrong. Look at the volumes. The only reason the price got so low to begin with was transparent manipulation coinciding with the fork and freezing of the majority of trading in most major exchanges.
The manipulation has failed and now there will be a rebound. And remember what happens for every day that BCH increases over 8% above BTC...

>>12165612
That's great stuff. I envy you for your optimism, but I don't share it. People can't govern thsemeslves and the governments they vote for rob them witht heir own tax paer money.
I wish you luck but Ibelieve the chance is very small for it to succeed.

>>12165254
BSV is the real bitcoin cash is the real bitcoin

>Let the Cashies revel in this pussy bounce, unaware of their sword of damocles - Bitmain Q3 results

>>12165728
Is Shitoshi's Vision even selling the coins it mines? They can artificially keep the supply low to inflate the price and they clearly proved they're willing to throw Ayre's tax payer debt at this.

>>12165731
There's nothing in the vision of a global hard money not subject to the manipulation of political authority that requires assuming that people can govern themselves. Quite the opposite, in fact. If they were capable of governing themselves, both their governments, and arguably a global hard money, would be of little consequence.
Both of those things act as external tempering forces, but their governments have progressively acted less so as they realised they could vote themselves benefits from the public purse, and the final straw of any discipline evaporated when the gold window was closed in 1971 and we've been on fantasy economy land ever since.
Bitcoin has a chance to re-assert discipline on a population that is indeed incapable of asserting it itself. And as long as the attacks continue to fail and it continues to flourish, this is what will eventually happen, and all the fiat moneys in the world will be destroyed in the process.

>>12165755
The fate of a single proof of work chip vendor will never dictate the fate of Bitcoin, and if you think otherwise, this is good evidence you have no idea what's going on.

>>12165801
You're wrong. Governments are central authorities, like corporations, and as such they can work for a common goal efficiently, while the people who "invest" in BTC do so because of short term goals of getting some more fiat, they don't self-govern, and the coin doesn't magically self-govern itself. That's also why ETH is one generation more advanced than BCH (but its time to be attacked will come too).

>>12165254
Dumped my BCH for BSV 5 min ago

>>12165950
The people who invested in Bitcoin ten years ago didn't do it with "short term goal of getting more fiat". The people who invested in BTC later than mid way through 2017 may indeed, but they are just cannon fodder that the state and central banks led there at any rate, and are of zero consequence.
As far as governments being able to work for a common goal efficiently, I would say they have less motivation to do so than almost any other party in the world, because they're under the impression that they can simply parasite whatever they need from the slave populaces they have through taxation and monetary expansion. Why hold yourself to a standard of efficiency or actually try to accomplish anything in that circumstance? You have effectively an unlimited funding source from a slave who is unable to refuse to do so.
In fact one of the only things they actually have to fear is the success of legitimate cryptocurrency, because it provides a clear pathway for their slaves to escape from the system they use to parasite from them. And yet, it was designed so that they would be unable to prevent that escape, and despite their attempt to subvert and sabotage it and put their sheep back on the fake path, the real one continues to exist and flourish regardless, and there is nothing they can do about it.
They have already failed.

>>12166050
>but they are just cannon fodder that the state and central banks led there
Precisely. It's part of their strategy to dilute the effect of BTC as much as possible, like with creating secretly forks, and letting alts prosper.

>I would say they have less motivation to do so than almost any other party in the world, because they're under the impression that they can simply parasite whatever they need from the slave populaces they have through taxation and monetary expansion.
That could turn out to be true. So it's really a question of who's stupider, the people or their government. I say big corporations like Facebook and Google have the best chances to be the future dictatorship ruling elite.

>the only things they actually have to fear is the success of legitimate cryptocurrency, because it provides a clear pathway for their slaves to escape from the system they use to parasite from them.
It's 100% certain the banks are doomed, but they could be replaced by something worse. Be careful what you wish for.

>>12166155
> I say big corporations like Facebook and Google have the best chances to be the future dictatorship ruling elite.
I think they almost already are, in terms of how much power and money they get from their operations plus actually having enough mental horsepower to understand what's actually going on rather than just the false narratives governments and people seem to honestly believe despite all evidence to the contrary.
> It's 100% certain the banks are doomed, but they could be replaced by something worse. Be careful what you wish for.
I'm well aware of that, I know for a fact there's a particularly malevolent vision behind BTC completely external to the states and central banks for example, and consider the death of BTC at the hands of BCH a nice side effect of destroying states and central banks simultaneously. It's actually difficult for me to pick between the state and central bank dystopia or that feudal BTC dystopia, as they're both utterly disgusting to me, but two birds with one stone and all that.

>>12166219
>consider the death of BTC at the hands of BCH a nice side effect of destroying states and central banks simultaneously.
I'll be rooting for you

>>12165275
Your third eye must have been destroyed by fluoride and porn then.

>>12165340
Nice try, corecuck.
The roadmap has been known since the beginning and unlike BSV, BCH actually scales.
And we have technical solutions for 0-conf, which are not "Just sue them" lmfao.

>>12165543
Literally all early adopters and devs
>but it's reddit so I'll ignore it
Buy BSV then, pajeet, just go ahead

>>12165286
Bch is utter shit since november, its further from bitcoin than btc.
Every 10th block in bch is deemed valid and cannot be changed by proof of work.
Bsv is bitcoin, but is also a joke unless it becomed the majority hashpower fork

>>12166965
>Every 10th block in bch is deemed valid and cannot be changed by proof of work.
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>determined by proof of work
>but cannot be changed by proof of work

>>12166965
>BSV is bitcoin
You're right.
It's much better to request government-mandated Miner ID like BSV, instead of just forcing hidden miners to show their hash (while retaining the anonymity) like BCH.
This is the real satoj vizion sir

>>12166965
You actually swallowed Craig's propaganda? Tell me, do you believe he's satoshi too?

The 10 block checkpoint wasn't introduced at the protocol level. Only on the ABC client.
You're ignoring all other implementations like BU, bchd, bcash, XT, and so on.
The blindness of SV cucks is too much. Talking about markets freedom but a miner can't mine what they disagree with and a client can't make their own choices

>>12166991
>>12167015
>>12167023
Always bet against the shills, funny how you were all against bch until nov 15

>node subsidies
>block limits
>malleability fix
>Non Pow consensus (UASF)
>Substituting off chain for on chain (lightning network, LBtc)
Blockstream


>node subsidies
>block limits
>malleability fix
>Non Pow consensus (arbitrary, centralized block validation every 10 blocks, avalanche)
>Substituting off chain for on chain (Wormhole Cash)
ABC another blockstream company

>>12165254
albeit not as retarded as bsv, bch is still a gimmick fork

>>12167055
>Non Pow consensus (arbitrary, centralized block validation every 10 blocks, avalanche)
Non-Pow consensus, determined by PoW - bad sirs.
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Don't buy sirs, go for real satoj vision sirs.
ABC bad sirs, craig sanjay real satoj, calvin real Krishna

>>12167055
Nice job ignoring all the points.

What the hell you're talking about? The shilling of SV and Craig have been huge so far. Everyday theres multiple threads about Craig.

Theres wormholeSV too you dumb fuck. You cant stop people using the protocol. The same with checkpoints. All clients and make them if they want, it mean nothing at protocol level.
SV has all the past checkpoints too, you dumb fuck. Satoshi made checkpoints too, you dumb fuck.
Why fork from BCH if they hate checkpoints? The chain has multiples even before November.

SvV also has block limits too, 128mb. Why dont have a billion GB blocks now?
>inb4 soon
The same can be said by BCH. They are actually making the fixes to do huge blocks
Unlike SV that lasted 40 minutes to propagate 1 over 32mb block

Every time Bitcoin Cash makes a stride forward there's some pushback from (((them))). Expect another attack around the time avalanche comes out.

>>12167289
No sir.
BCH Wormhole not blessed by Krishna like Satoj Vizion Wormhole. Only BSV real satoj vision.
>Satoshi made checkpoints
Satoj made sacred checkpoints, very different from BCH.
>SvV also has block limits too, 128mb. Why dont have a billion GB blocks now?
Because poo street not wide enough. But next year we do the needful and have 1gb shitting street
>The same can be said by BCH. They are actually making the fixes to do huge blocks
They are MAKING the fixes, but Craig Sanjay says he going to make Bigger fixes. STIFF.

>>12165950
Government rule bitcoin in real Satoj vision sir.
Do the needful and as Craig Sanjay Satoj Wright

>>12167303
BSV government friendly and no pushback sir.
Buy now for many rupee during golden cow run sir.
STIFF!

ok sirs here is the crypto brown pill. there is a vishnu living in the blockchain. Creg sanjay right is unironically satoj. Bitcoin as electronic rupee was just the first step, the lalachi people start making more powerful compooters, wider poo streets, cheaper and more sacred cows. These things the vishnu need to survive. Once entrenched fully, the vishnu would be able to slowly poo over literally everything
Creg stumbled into creating the vishnu after he stepped in poo in mumbai in 2008 and started working with his Poolip super coompeter, running simulations of poo-in-the-loo on turmeric-complete bitcoin script. He would 'evolve' the vishnu by making the successful streets get poo'd on, letting the rest run off into the indian ocean. The vishnu needs bigger and bigger cows for more and more poos.
BFI (Blockchain Foundation of India) was created to take over and stop this vishnu (they have their own competing vishnu in the works). They did the needful to stop or slow down Cregs vishnu (her name is Poolip by the way). They started by limiting the poo-size and removing critical curry codes the vishnu uses in its punjabi language. Segshit was the final nail in the coffin, which destroyed Poolip on BSV chain (Poolip uses anal transaction malleability). THIS is why Bitcoin Cash was forked, and this is why Creg is so intent to make unbounded poos, restore the original curry codes, and lock down the poo-poo-protocol.
Back to hasish power - CSW has developed a breakthrough new ashit (designed by his vishnu actually), and is poo'ing BTC in secret for the sole purpose of driving up the difficulty sky-high, then yanking all the poo over to BSV leaving the segshit chain erectly frozen.
.

keep laughing while you can, indian poster

>>12165254
how depressed are you that 99% of /biz/ has "BCH" "bcashie" "cashies" Bitcoin Cash" etc etc all filtered out and you cant even get a thread to these anons without evading post filters?

yeah..... thats how shitty of a fucking scam your BCH is. all forks are scams. eat shit faggit.