/biz/ - Business & Finance

what is it with americans and those butt ugly wood interiors. jesus it looks ugly as sin.

>>12138648
Lul wait till a hurricane and this nigger would cost a few sats.

>105k for a trailer
>Affordable

>>12138648
way fucking overpriced for a trailer in bumfuck Florida.

>>12138657
What's with the 3rd Worlder fixation on bricks?

>>12138676
we dont like our houses to fall apart every time a breeze comes along anon. burgers really cant get into aesthetics all their buildings look ugly as shit

>buying boomer boxes in 2018

>>12138675
wait There is more affordable housing

>>12138657
What is with europoors and their obsession over America? Inferiority complex?

>>12138720
>muh greatest nation on earth
>paying 100k for a cardboard trailer with plastic-wood interior
stay prole, ameritards

>>12138706
Please stop posting modular homes. They're probably in age restricted communities anyway.

this one is actually livable

>>12138690
Your houses are going to collapse during earthquakes. You guys don't have access to wood. Don't use aesthetics as an excuse.

>>12138736
>Modular Home
>Age Restricted Community
Not so much anon
Pic related

>>12138648
>100k
>cock roach infested 3rd world hut

fucking LOL

is this bait?

>>12138706
>>12138706
That looks like it is very reasonable
am I missing something ?

>>12138752
Email the realtor and ask him / her yourself
I dont' have the answers anon

>>12138745
there arent any earthquakes here and Im literally surrounded by forests you mutt
this is what peak aesthetics look like, you yanks seem to prefer the strip mall aesthetic though

>>12138751
>that comment

Florida has cheap property because everything is on shitty wetland soil (which floods all the time) and there are fucking bugs everywhere.

>>12138742

That actually looks acceptable, the rest of the ones posted in this thread are garbage.

>>12138742
What's the catch? Too many roodypoos around? A large house like that for 80k wtf?

>>12138742

Oh wait, it's a foreclosure with a zestimate of 260k. Buying a foreclosed house is a pain in the ass.

Stop being retarded op.

Florida is filled with 3rd world tier homes like that, it's truly disgusting here. I feel like I'm living in a bad dream.

>>12138803
You're not surrounded by forests. You're surrounded by other buildings, packed like sardines. I bet you can hear the sound of neighbors flushing their toilets too. It only looks good on the outside.

Pick related is what a modern housing in Germany looks like.

>>12138919
Florida is like a post apocalyptic wasteland at best

>>12139047
It literally makes me sick to look at.
Much more comfy in pic related

>>12138648
>He won't buy a $1,500 fixer upper.
>He wants to buy a shitty trailer in Florida
Not going to make it.

>>12139228
Probably has like $100k in back property taxes though.

>>12138648
I’m in Titusville on business this week. What a shithole this area is.

Subjectively affordable but my type of dream house when I /make it/

>>12139247
>>12139247
This is actually very reasonable to look at
I don't know what the median house hold income is in VT but it is only some 51K in Florida
>>12139242
PSJ here, work as an Engineer I refuse to buy a house with these inflated prices.

>>12139242
you should have been in T-Ville when the Miracle City Mall was abandon. This is the location where the new mall is being built.
T-Ville is a toilet for pillheads it is hard to comprehend the idea that astronauts lived and worked there at one time.
Also two 9-11 hi Jackers lived in T-ville for a while

Is Poland a good country to move to?

Is there a good biotech industry there?

>>12139237
>>12139228
Not only that but the city REQUIRES you to fix everything up (that is, remodel at great expense) and pass several rounds of inspections. By the time you're done, you've spent enough to buy a house in a comfy southeastern city.

Moorage fees are relatively cheap even in places like Vancouver, or just drop anchor.

>>12138751
yeah out in Christams, but where I live they're all over the fucking place. half my town is trailers with old people in them.

>>12138648
>100k for a mobile home
>affordable housing

>>12139480
America is a country where young people are living in vans and dying for lack of healthcare while the old rot away in expensive suburban houses out in the middle of nowhere. $100k is very affordable.

For canadians -> Moncton

>>12139548
>moncton
ah, there's the catch

>>12139548
Pretty decent places for cheap too. This would probably cost a million bucks in toronto or vancouver

>>12139595
What's wrong with Moncton? East coast is comfy

>>12139289
PSJ? I don’t know the area that we’ll.

>>12139310
It’s such a dump. Everyone that I’ve been working with on this project that works at this facility commutes from Orlando. Can barely find a place to get dinner, and until recently could barely find a hotel that was decent. They all smell and are dirty, a new Marriot just opened a few months ago that I switched to.

I’m from Miami and we have our own problems but my house has doubled since I bought it.

>>12138648
If you can deal with tweakers and oppressive heat this may be for you.

>75k USD
>4,000 square feet (main house)
>2,000 square feet (outbuilding)
>40,000 square feet lot size

>>12139492
This country is really going down the shitter if a
20 year old trailer in a suburban town going for 100k is considered affordable.

>>12139310
Also why would they build a mall here? There doesn’t seem to be anyone with money actually living here. As you said it is all tweakers. Even in good areas malls are dead.

>>12139668
middle of nowhere, liens up to your neck, and/or in terrible condition.

>>12138761
Probably the fact that the supposed greatest country to every be on this planet has to live in borderline third world conditions to afford housing.

>>12139228
>tfw I can leave florida for good now and move to the democratic paradise of Mi and start over
Thanks Anon

>>12138648
Nice Neighborhood. Nicknamed Clanahan by some of the neighbors. Trump flags flying beneath old glory. Good schools.

>>12138720
Says the murrifats driving the oversized lardcarriers. Hurr better jump into my big ass silverado and guzzle fuel to the mall for pancake batter. God forbid I use a reasonable sized car. Muh free*buurp*dum

>>12139237

>burned out house in Detroit.

>worth anything

hahahaha

>>12138742
foreclosure estimate 260k retard
340k total bill

Belfast is cheap as fuck.

>>12139228
>Detroit

These prices really fuck with my head.

A nice 3 bed semi detached in south England would cost $300-$350k.

>>12138706
>>12138648
These things don’t hold up during a hurricane

>>12139861
These homes are all in the middle of nowhere and/or in terrible condition.

>>12138648
>affordable housing
u wot m8. no such thing
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/aug/25/flats-block-converting-offices-living-space

>>12138657
wood paneling is a top-tier aesthetic, extremely underrated.

>not buying a desolate bumfuck nowhere house innawoods
ive also never seen someone advertise "great house flipping opportunity"
talk about red flag

>>12139999
would be like 12 million in the uk.

I fucking hate the "GREAT INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY" comments, disgusting

>>12140008
It's 3 hours away from the nearest real city.

>>12139999
Lol that piece of shit look like it is uninhabitable and about to fall down x3

>whoa why is this 40k

>>12140094
oh

>>12140094
probably someone got murdered in there or something like that. who gives a shit though. I live in an apartment where a woman that died of old age lived before me. I couldn't care less.

>>12140098
It'll buff out.

>>12140119
Do you ever feel like you are being watched when you wank?

>biz think they need 10 million to make it

After inflation, the real value of a starter property today is about 200,000 USD. In metro areas near very desirable, high-paying employers they are more like 400,000 USD.
I'm sorry anons

>>12140142
That'll be the government

>>12140157

Bought a 6 year old, 2200 sq ft house in 2012 for 96k in Texas. About to sell it for 200k.

>>12138648
A house like that woulda cost 25k in the 90s. Wages havent gone up do where the extra 80k come from?

>>12138648
massive sink hole waiting to happen
u've been warned

>>12140185
more and more cuckful mortgages, forced by the increase in population and by ever intensifying hand-rubbing

How about a 540k cuckshed, biz?
what a timeline

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/48919243_zpid/globalrelevanceex_sort/47.747231,-122.214746,47.671688,-122.362375_rect/12_zm/

>>12140209

This is clearly the result of democrat financial policies. Start letting banks fail and take away buying grants from uncle same the entire housing market will self adjust to a reasonable correction

>>12138657
Its because amerifags are poor and wood is cheap

>>12138648
>be me
>buy poor condition home in nice neighborhood at foreclosure auction
>rehab literally entire house
>tfw well appointed 1200sqft 3/2 with big backyard
>refi, cash out $7k
>will be first rental
pic related, butcher block countertops. i've posted a few times in the /small biz general/ or whatever it is (was). i own a property management company and work directly for a pair of investors. AMA.

>>12140249
>Democrats are why people are rich
Not doing yourself any favors boomer.

>>12139228
the fucking thing get firebombed

>>12139668
probably haunted

>>12140209
This proves my earlier post about metro areas having starters around 400k+

>>12138851
why do you think that it is a pain in the ass? you sound bluepilled.
>>12139793
what the fuck are you even talking about? please explain why you think
>340k total bill
and i'll explain to you how it actually works.

>>12140208
>more and more cuckful mortgages
It's pretty hard for young people to get mortgages now.

>>12140209
lmao

>>12140279

>Democrats
>Rich
pick one
I'm talking hyper inflation here

>>12140404

Top Kek

>>12140423
> Democrats
> Democrat voters

>>12139228
You'll probably be raped and then murdered while your jamming to your favorite tunes hanging drywall.

>>12140365
It's impossible for most young peoplr and even many gen exers. I'm not sure what is propping up prices these days.

>>12140576
>I'm not sure what is propping up prices these days.
Governments world wide support home ownership in numerous ways. Thus the market is constantly supplied with more bag buyers than bag holders. No one wants to know what happens when you remove some of these incentives/systems. Trump recently tried to eliminate one and everyone freaked the fuck out.

>>12140142
probably only makes him harder

>>12140209
>>12140404

>>12140600
What are the supports?

>>12140271
>AMA
u ever play with ur dick when ur taking a shit?

>>12139999

>bumfuck nowhere
>still picks overpriced overtaxed Commiefornia
>not Montana or Wyoming

What is wrong with you? Seriously.

>>12141733
>still picks overpriced overtaxed Commiefornia
>flyover fag doesn't know about california's based property tax laws

You can purchase the finest of cuckshacks here in Australia for a mere $1M

>>12140209

>>12141758
It's not fucking fair. Americans have so many towns and cities that are prosperous and in the middle of the country. We have like fucking Alice Springs and Mount Isa and that's it. All the housing across the coast is so fucking expensive in Australia, how the fuck am I ever going to afford

>>12140119
That must be a Euro thing. In the USA someone being murdered in your house doesn't lower the value by much at all, it makes it desirable cause it doesn't affect the house and people think it'll get them a deal. You end up with twice the potential buyers and normally sell for even higher than the original price if it's a decent house.

>>12140185
We have an extra 1/4 the people (plus another 1/15 illegals) and no extra land.

>>12141886
Yeah it's the illegals not the banks. It's never the banks. The system works its just illegals . Don't change anything please. My retirement is at stake here.

>>12140600
>Trump recently tried to eliminate one and everyone freaked the fuck out.
Which one? Sounds like some /x/ tier collegekid shit where you make something up and then make up a believable source. Then again, it's Donald Trump. If anyone would tell the government sleaze system to fuck off it's him. Dude talked about a gold standard in 2018.

>>12141752

Based? No. I live in CA so I do know. It's not good. If your property taxes happen to be low, you are making up for it in some other way like income tax, sales tax, utilities, health insurance (yes it's also a tax since you are forced), gas tax (plus extra gas tax for good measure), etc. It's fucking endless.

>>12141851

You guys still haven't had a major financial crisis in what 23 years or so? No 2008 for aussies.

>>12141851
We don't even have 3, Dems do their best to fuck over anyone but (((service industry))).

Can any anons give me the cons of living in Memphis Tennesse? Housing there is ridiculously cheap.

>>12141916
>open my borders now!!!!
If you're going to forgive every shitty leach on my system and blame the "banks" then you better follow through and attack all the top league "bankers" in the street instead of screaming at someone for making 120k and owning an acre.

>>12140179
stop it, im about to nut.

>>12141851
>Boomers literally put their houses on stilts to give the illusion of a second floor and more monetary value
You can't make this shit up

>>12141921
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/23/tax-bill-will-slash-the-number-of-homeowners-claiming-the-mortgage-deduction.html

>>12141971
what if that's a common flood region?

One of the cheaper ones, poorfags.

If you're 40 and not retired you should seriously rethink your decisions

>>12141921
Read his books. Foreshadowing of gold standard.

>>12140098
Mold is a fun problem to have, by that I mean good luck ever getting rid of it. ehl-oh-ehl.

>>12140154
The only thing that sucks about owning a property on Crystal Lake is the part where you're murdered by Jason Vorhees, but the views are gorgeous.

>>12140154
>Arlington
That's 3-4 hours outside of Seattle

>>12140209
Oh wow, a 'charming cuckshed' in the heart of seattle's Chelsea district. Amazing. I may know someone interested in this...

>>12141921
>Sounds like some /x/ tier collegekid shit where you make something up
try following the news and also learning the tax code
the tax cut limited SALT deductions and disincentivized itemizing deductions for your primary residence by doubling the standard deduction

>>12139999
Shit like this is akin to buying a house in Tornado alley.
Enjoy your pile of ashes in a few years (if it doesn't fall over before then)
nice quads tho.

>>12141851
Why are Australian houses so ugly, and why are they so poor and retarded?

>>12141851
>>12141923
>>12141971
>>12142083
OH MAN I LOVE AUSTRALIAN HOUSES CHECK OUT THIS FUCKING RIPPER OF A DEAL

https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-nsw-chippendale-128416802

Literally looks like a run down ghetto fucking shack in the other pictures.

>>12140404
audibly kek'd

t. budding seattle homebuyer.

>>12138657
that isn't a wood interior, that isn't wood

this is an american wood interior
house is listed at $289k

>>12138648
>want to buy home
>everywhere that is economically productive and culturally relevant is too expensive
>affordable homes only exist out in the sticks
Burn everything down now.

>>12142118
There was a place in, I think it was Uptown Denver, that looked like this, but it had MASSIVE amounts of trash all over it. It was like a drug den slum-a-mo-bob? that was owned before Denver really got a come up, and it had been like that for YEARS while the area around it gentrified. Maybe it was in glenndale on Josephine. That's what this reminds me of.

Government houses spics nigger literal African Muslims for FREE but actual white Americans have to pay out the ass or enter debt slavery for 20 years in order to "own" A house on property they rent from the government if they want to live away from hood goblins or mexishits.

Fuck every single realtor and speculator I hope they die painfully.

>>12140185
Why aren't we just going to come and out and admit Jews and foreigners. The influx of dirty foreign money into the real estate market has absolutely killed the working man's ability to buy a home.

>>12142133
oh wow it's almost like the supply of real estate in certain areas is limited while the demand of real estate in these areas is high. oh man I think I learned about something like this is my econ 101 class in high school but I just can't put my finger on it...

>>12142207
Foreign buyers are only 8% of home buyers in the US.

>>12142248
That's an insanely high % anon haha, I don't even know your argument but holy shit that's nutty.

>>12142146
Without the government participation in the secondary mortgage market there wouldn't even by the fixed thirty year mortgage, the govt also subsidizes first time home buyers.

Housing speculators, however, are largely the result of accumulation. The rich get richer and need to invest it somewhere.

>>12142248
That’s a huge percentage faggot

>>12142324
>>12142253
Fucking canadians stealing muh property that I don't own.

>>12141699
yes. next question.

>>12142454
you ever play with your shit while taking a dick?

>>12142533
no, that is gross.

I found this one bedroom home for 25k in Pittsburgh. Structure is good and lot is pretty big. Kitchen is trash. Bedroom and living room are okay. Needs paint and carpets. Bathroom is tile but needs some work.

Wish I could buy it and fix it up, but unfortunately I have put all my money towards credit card debt.

>>12142343
get rekt eh buddy?

>>12138648
The town of Plainsville Kansas is willing to give you a plot of land if you become a resident there.

>>12142797
Just google plainsville and you'll see why that's a bad investment.

>>12142804
Its a small dinky town in the middle of nowhere Kansas pretty no normal for that area. Its not prone to crime or anything that would null you like Detroit and its similar "free land" offer. Look nigga its free.
If you can't turn free into a positive investment then you don't get to bitch about housing expenses.

>>12142859
Christ I am getting bored just looking at it. Like maybe if I could open a marijuana grow there I might consider it but since KS is still living in the 1980s I don't think it's going to happen.

>>12141851
is that house on top of a fucking cage?

>>12142891
it's raised like that so the crocs won't come in because they cannot walk up stairs. see how there is literally not a garden? that is so there is nowhere for the croc to lie in wait for them to come down. pretty smart boomers desu

>>12142871
Which is fine and a perfectly correct opinion if you can back up your leisure pursuits with money to afford your perfected housing. My vitriol is aimed at the choosing beggers that complain about never being able to afford or own land and then turn their nose up at land being given to anyone who shows up simply because its not their high demand house they want.

>>12140179
But, sir, the negers

how about buying a house in a decent 3rd world counrty?

>>12142985
foreign buyers cant buy land often, and rent prices even in literal 3rd world places like cambodia, is already enough that you'd still need a full time job

>>12142985
You have to be careful because the political situations can be VERY fluid, and if the local junta decides you're out, you're out. The other thing that happens in 3rd world countries is they become just as expensive as first world countries. Regular houses with water, electric, working toilets etc. end up costing similar to first world rates, so the more of this shit you add, the more expensive it becomes until you see no noticeable price increase. Sure you can get child care cheap, and gardening, houswork etc. are cheap; but to truly live there ends up not being any less expensive.

>>12138657
Its like a 30 year old house bro

Fucking burgers. 80k for this

>>12138849
>>12138742
It's also a million degrees day and night 24/7 for months on end and yes there are indeed roodypoos galore.

>>12143119
Looks like some decrepit bullshit house you loot in PUBG

>>12143135
You get 1200m2 land with this

?

>>12141851
Get the fuck outa brissy mate.

>>12138742

That would be an 800k home in Europe, yay socialism

>>12140179
is raleigh a nice and safe place to live, or a nigger infested cucked shithole?

>>12142891
>>12142927
gotta love australia where literally anything in the environment wants to kill humans

>>12140600

In Europe, we not only have progressive income tax, but also progressive savings taxes that start at 30k. Basically if you save money, you get robbed or arrested by the state. So everyone just spends everything and borrows for expensive things.

>tfw 25 and make 45k year
>tfw no way ill ever be able to save 20% down

>>12139829
Belfast is dangerous as shit. High crime rates, scary gangs, typical Irish people...scary.

>>12142927
>living near giant reptiles who will eat you
sounds noice

>>12138648
>comfy wooden shack
>wyoming
>peaceful
>84k
it amazes me how cheap american houses are, what are you waiting for to live the /out/ dream

>>12143451
>6 520 sqft
>80k
Lots of things to fix up in the house but seriously it is cheap as hell

>>12143473
How can one live next to this and not buy it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PksZhV3ZI5M

NOOOOOOOOO
ALL MY INHERITANCE IS IN REAL ESTATE AND THE BUBBLE IS FINALLY BURSTING IN AUSFAILIA
FUCKING BOOMERS

We in Norway, the world richest country as you may know, prefer the civilised style of living. If related is y dreamflat i plan to live in. It costs a mere 500k usd dollars and I will have a whole 37 square meters for myself. The openness of the bedroom, kitchen and living room being together in one room symbolises our open culture. The property tax will also only be maybe 10k usd a year.
Good luck Americans with your low quality tree houses while I enjoy a good morning coffee or gym next to my vibrant flat.

>>12143571
Also I think it adds a great deal of communal value, which we Norwegians in the world's best and richest country prefer. Not talking too loud after 22 when people want to rest is always nice and urges you to have a healthy lifestyle.

I myself hodl 12k nano and is a proud Norwegian of Icelandic heritage. Did you know Iceland has both Peppes and Dominoes. I myself prefer Dominoes due to their superior taste. Here in Norway, as well as Iceland, we are truly transcendent human beings.

>>12143571
>>12143587
kek

>>12143571
do you enjoy the endless banging and the smells of your neighbors ?

>>12143587
The beautiful terasse with great view offers relaxation. Of course it is not allowed to smoke there as it may disturb the neighbours, as well as talking loud after 22. It truly is magnificent to live in the world's richest country, Norway, where for just 500 000 dollars worth of Norwegian Krone I can have a whole 37 square meters, of course no loud talking after 22 as it may disturb neighbours.

>>12143596
do you have a license to be naked in your living room

>>12143571
>>12143587
based Lars

>>12143303
are you fucking high? Max 70k